Pray with Me - Misery Loves Company

I think the whole thing is truly [somethinged] up. We shouldn't be going to war with each other _full stop_.

Patrician, not to rub salt into the wound, but unfortunately this poor soldier will probably receive a pitiful disability pension that wouldn't support a dog.

I'm appalled at our so-called leaders that allow this BS to happen and continue. Can't say more as I risk the thread being deleted.

start by disbanding the fbi and cia and all those others we dont know about

I suppose we could pray for an end to war.

and we could pray for robotics so that we blast the hell out of each other without any damage to human life.

My bot can beat your bot type of dance rather than maim and murder real people by the millions while accomplishing nothing at all.

Interesting in a really tragic sense that there is so much denial and/or apathy as well -

I am not normally a pessimist, but on this topic, the inevitability of war, I'm afraid I am.

When one group of people decide that they want to exert control over another, war is the final outcome.

As long as the lust for power, jealousy, envy, and greed is embedded in human nature, war will be with us, as it has been from the beginning of recorded history.

The only wars we should be fighting are at and for our borders.
Not for oil.

Oh Patricia....I hear you loud and clear.

I know we need to be very careful about what we discuss on here regarding politics, etc......so, I will supress my desire to chat endlessly on the subject and just let you know that you are not alone in your thoughts.

Nobody would call you a chicken or communist for opposing war. HECK, those that ran to canada due to a real objection don't deserve such ill will either.

Robots ALREADY exist to do SO much!

I would probably do the same. A lot of this stuff I don't like. I mean WWII at least was for a definite reason, and for japan towards the end, they basically said to the japanese "Fight us, and you WILL lose!". It is sad that nobody truly won by that, but the war was over.

And it is sad that he will see little respect. Although his welfare WILL be better than average, his loss of the quality of life will make it seem worthless.

hardraysnight,

The FBI is primarily for DOMESTIC issues, and DOES do some good. I think the scope is twisted, but we should keep it. If there is bank fraud, crime across state lines, local crime from foreign nations, interstate fraud, securities and comodities sold that aren't covered by the SEC, it is the FBI's job! You could think of it as a national police force. There are probably like 6 levels to the police force in the US. City, Sheriff, State, Washington DC, Secret Service, and the FBI. And the FBI is the only one handling public problems across state lines. They ALSO do background checks. I had a runin with the FBI THREE times!

1. When an interstate company tried to rip me off in commodities. They actually ripped a LOT of people off, and I was only one they contacted. The FBI basically told me to give up, as the only one THEY held responsible would supposedly never make enough to pay me back.
2. When a bank tried to rip me off. Again, I was one of many. They sent me a check for 20% of what they owed me.
3. When they came to my office to interview me as I was given as a reference for a friend that was applying for top secret clearance at JPL.

The CIA is also international, but IT does some good ALSO. Like all government programs ITS scope is twisted ALSO! The CIA is to get info on foreign nations and do covert investigations on the US, and various political and military(general) intelligence.

And MOST people injured like that are probably injured by booby traps that we have robots to find.

Steve

The people who most rigorously spout ideological platitudes and tell others how to think -- one on one, over the airwaves, etc etc. -- tend to be safely buffered from the real world while others work everyday to salvage the wreckage of peoples lives that result from war. My mother, for example, is a psychologist who has become an expert in post traumatic stress syndrome since so many of her patients suffered the effects of war (not just Canadian and American soldiers who served in Afghanistan). She is a senior citizen but still working (often pro bono) because, sadly, there isn't enough help out there for her patients.

I think we should institute the draft for the kids (male and female) of all politicians that have the ability to influence if we go to war or not.

Let them put their own kids in harm's way, instead of just someone else's kids.

Until the people of the world will lay down their arms and tell the leaders "we will not kill for you", there will be war. ALL war is caused by greed. Someone wants to own another country - or its resources. Someone else thinks all people should believe as s/he does.

It's bull sh** walking and the people have to be the ones who decide life is worth more than their leaders wanting and wanting and taking and taking. Until then, we will kill.

Why is this happening?

Let's start with the kids who are volunteering for service. The kids wanna be respected just like anyone else. They wanna prove they're tough. They wanna be seen as hero's. Never gonna be a shortage of people who will pick up a gun.

Then there are the commanders over there. The officers in charge. Ya sure. Let's stuff a hummer full of kids and drive in circles. Do you really think a general is going to risk his butt with his own bad tactics and strategies? Not gonna happen.

Fire them all with no pension. Might wake up the officers below them and send the message the same ole' same ole' isn't working.

I am glad there are people who care about our broken children and who see how really horribly wrong this is.

Another thing to pray for is advancements in technology and medicine where we can replace severed limbs and paralyzed people can walk. Of course there has been some progress but so very slow and of course not every 'average GI Joe' can benefit. Let' pray that changes.

I think that our maimed veterans deserve special treatment. That's another thing that hurts so much - that they really aren't treated specially - as if it 'goes with the territory'.

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We define ourselves in misery and war is but a manifestation of humankind's collective misery. Logic may say that we have enough but instinct tells us to hoard and amass more. We are Neanderthals who've learned how to build more destructive clubs.

We crave chaos and negativity. Think about it, we never believe when good things happen, yet we'll transmit negativity to each other like virus. For example when reviewing a product, people will glaze over 200 positive reviews just to read the one negative one. We crave the bad stuff...it's like crack.

Until we learn how to pay positiveness forward with the same veracity as negativity, there will be wars, murders and hate. Politicians make for convenient scapegoats but they only have as much power as they're given so who's really to blame?
Politicians are mirrors of who they represent. Confused, scared, power hungry humans.

Sadly, I don't think there will be any war free rainbows to paint until more of us are ready to change.

Until then this is what we get.

What will break your heart even more is watching the Zeitgeist films. Then you realise that war just makes the wealthy elite more money. They fund both sides.

Of course it would open the floor for a big debate on false flag ops etc, but what Zeitgeist presents on the subject seems to make sense to me.

You have to absolutely know that war is about greed. Especially when we have the advancements in technology available to us RIGHT NOW that we need not send a human body into harms way. But we're too cheap to use it. If war was about life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, then we would spend whatever necessary to keep our children out of harms way. But it's no longer about life and liberty - just the pursuit of happiness for those few that wield their money and power over us.

T-Bird,
My post has nothing to do with any other country or anyone else having mirror messages of US ideological stances.
The only point I was making is that To young impressionable kids the money and ads that our government puts out makes it look like once they sign up that they will be involved in real life versions of popular video games,and that is far from the truth.
(Real) war is not pretty. In real war people on both sides get hurt,maimed and die.
Can't think of a single commercial by our military that shows that aspect of what they do.