James Holmes Studied Mind Control In College.

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James Holmes Wrote And Made Mind Control Programs. After graduating in 2006, Holmes worked as a student intern at the Salk Institute of Biological Studies and Miramar College's biotechnology summer boot camp, where "cream of the crop" students were given rudimentary laboratory projects.

For his part while at Salk, Holmes wrote in his resume that he designed a computer program to illustrate temporary perceptions of causality and programmed a flicker fusion utility. Used in movies and game systems by every day people. Flicker fusion is used in mind control.

More Information on what James Holmes Worked On In 1991 a professor emeritus of history at California State University named Theodore Roszak published a novel entitled Flicker.

Described as 'A novel of suspense involving tangled conspiracies and dark obsessions in the mysterious film industry from the author of the highly acclaimed The Making of a Counterculture' Flicker, a complex mystery set in Los Angeles in the 1970's, centers around a film student Jonathan Gates and his obsession with a B horror film director Max Castle.

This obsession eventually leads Jonathan to discover Castle's use of subliminal messages, mind control, mood altering imagery secretly embedded into movies with the intent of terrifying the audience.

James Holmes also wrote papers on temporary perceptions of causality Temporary Perceptions Of Causality. Seems James Holmes was into mind control and even wrote a program for mind control.

The main stream news asked questions like did Mr Holmes ever have a girlfriend. We want to know what he studied and what he wrote. Plus programs Holmes made regarding mind control.
Their we will find what has caused this terrible action and who is behind it. It's very odd that a man who had no problems with law or anyone decided to call himself the Joker and die his hair red and murder people at a movie theater.
James Holmes might be the victim of a study gone wrong or purposely made.

It's startling to see psychiatrists explaining the James Holmes lived in a fantasy and was just plain crazy which can easily be explained by the work James Holmes did in flicker fusion.

The true story of how the discovery of flicker potentials, and scientific observations about strange patterns, organized hallucinations, and even the displacement of time derived from stroboscopic light, very nearly resulted in a Dream Machine in every suburban living room. William S. Burroughs said: "Flicker administered under large dosage and repeated later could well lead to overflow of brain areas ... Anything that can be done chemically can be done in other ways."
Aldous Huxley called it "an aid to visionary experience." Seems James Holmes was indeed part of a mind control system gone wrong or done on purpose. The United Nations treaty to ban weapons in the united States is due for a vote next week.
Which would change the US second amendment for ever. Was James Holmes used to bring ridicule to people who owns guns and help pass the treaty to ban weapons in the USA. We now know fast and furious was used to blame the second amendment and to clamp down on gun laws in the united states.

One news reporter said the music James Holmes played the night of the murders was a trance music.

Also noteworthy, is the fact that his professor, Terry Sejnowski was funded and worked with none other than the CIA

CIA faces up to a better lie detector - IT News from V3.co.uk

There's more to this case than meets the eye, imo.
  • Holmes was a student of neuroscience, which would involve all of the studies you mention - there is nothing abnormal (if I may use the term) in that...it really is too early to jump to conclusion at this point as he has hardly spoken to investigators. We do not have a lot to go on but speculation to determine his derangement. To suggest he is some kind of 'Manchurian Candidate' is conjecture at best, and as far as we know, he has not been seen staring at any goats.

    If we arrested every college geek who had movie posters of comic book heroes, listened to tecno-pop, and had trouble socializing...we might as well start rounding them all up.

    Oddly for a person his age, he apparently had very little online footprint to track to even help determine his habits.

    For now, we are still very much in the dark about this Dark Knight...


    but just on a side note, while they are searching for rhyme and reason...it would seem to me a person like this would be a huge fan of the TV show, "Big Bang Theory" as many things about the show fairly relate to his general area of relationship, and one of it's actors (Mayim Bialik) actually has a PHd in neuroscience...but no one as of yet has thought to pounce on this 'string theory' to keep the presses rolling...
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The main stream news asked questions like did Mr Holmes ever have a girlfriend. We want to know what he studied and what he wrote. Plus programs Holmes made regarding mind control.
      Their we will find what has caused this terrible action and who is behind it.
      No - I don't care what his life was like - I don't care if he had a girlfriend - don't care what he studied or wrote.

      I will not look for a "cause for this terrible action" - HE was the cause.

      I admired the mayor or governor who stood yesterday talking about this case and refused to say this killer's name. I don't think he deserves any attention - he deserves punishment.

      Whether mentally ill or not (not convinced that court attitude wasn't a put-on) - he needs to be either executed or locked up for LIFE. No other options should be allowed.
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    in some societies everyone is entitled to a fair trial
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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        Originally Posted by devilzone84 View Post

        well that's really strange.
        That's what I thought. However, if you dissect and scrutinize any event long and hard enough, you will always find some strange "anomalies".
        Perhaps I am reading a little bit to much into this. Or maybe not.
        I should get out more.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Umm. Yes. Just a weee bit.
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          Perhaps I am reading a little bit to much into this.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Mind control is an adolescent fantasy given way too much credence on the net.
    It is just NLP for beginners.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    A few years back the US had over 150 mind control patents. There is a huge difference between a fantasy and a US registered patent. Mind control is very real.

    Whether this guy was dabbling and got caught up or not isn't something I will be determining.

    The jive on the net about NLP is mostly junk. Our mental programming begins the day we are born. NLP provides a means to turn bad programming around a bit - it's fad psychology and that is all it is. You cannot "hypnotize" people in actuality the way marketers of NLP want you to think you can. That "hypnotize" people with words bunk is just that. Bunk. It doesn't work like that. You can make people believe you said something you didn't. You can make them believe conditions are different than they thought they were. You can make them believe every lie you want to cram down their throats -- but you can't "hypnotize" them with words unless subconscious programming has taken place beforehand and triggers have been instilled.

    People need to get a grip about what marketing is. While NLP is an actual subject - it's not what people think it is generally and most of what you see about it is nothing more that marketing crap. I can't believe a forum of "marketers" can be so obtuse about how marketers operate.
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  • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
    Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post



    Also noteworthy, is the fact that his professor, Terry Sejnowski was funded and worked with none other than the CIA

    CIA faces up to a better lie detector - IT News from V3.co.uk

    There's more to this case than meets the eye, imo.


    If you go back to unibomber and others, its the same thing.

    If it is so out there, mind control, why don't you tell the IRS NOT to take the taxes out of your income that the Clandestine Services and other unnamed government agencies have been spending for years to research , fund , use and advance such a science.

    Just living to react and not get to the bottom of a cause is simply uncivilized as well as partially insane.

    You are surrounded by mind control everyday....., duh...., news, advertising , marketing, public education, propaganda, etc,.

    The SECRET to successful mind control is to make the person believe or know , for a fact, that they are in control and that the ideas and thoughts they generate are completely organic and is a result of their own desire and will.

    What is EVEN BETTER than THAT is when you "know" , exactly whats going on and why, but are so addicted to a certain mindset, lifestyle and gratification of such thinking that you continue and willing to fall in the trap, like a junkie knows smack will kill him, but he can't help himself.

    The most simplest example of that???? Divide and Conquer.

    Even when people KNOW for a fact that it's happening, they still give in to the manipulation, they simply cannot help themselves.

    Works everytime, to this hour and second, even in the technological age of the 21st century, even with ALL the world history we have to fall back on, repeats itself.

    Again, as long as people live a sheltered existence, or selfish existence, which means since they have such a comfortable life, that this is not reality, that it will not affect them in their lifetime.

    They have no concept or could care less of how things connect to each other, the causes, to manifest a reality of horror for others, which may and will , eventually, include and effect their lives, or someone they "claim" to love.

    Denial, tempered with selfishness is as potent an opiate as religion is being used for.

    Very simple, people REFUSE to believe anything until they are faced with death, directly and personally, basically, until it is too late.

    That, is a character/symptom of undiagnosed element of insanity, like the captain of the Titanic, I think a lot of people in this world has his genetic traits that led to its completely UNNECESSARY sinking. Arrogance being one element of the ingredients.

    Basically, they won't believe its quicksand until they are nose deep sinking into it, and still, maybe not even then.


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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      in some societies everyone is entitled to a fair trial
      He can have a trial - and then we lock him up. In this case - that's fair enough.
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        He can have a trial - and then we lock him up. In this case - that's fair enough.
        Trial then death penalty.

        I personally don't believe there is any "Manchurian Candidate" here.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    IMHO Dude was programmed to perform that killing in a effort to achieve "something" - and you know "what" better then me, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      IMHO Dude was programmed to perform that killing in a effort to achieve "something" - and you know "what" better then me, right?
      Gun Control, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    It didn't take Barry long to respond, anyhow.

    President Obama touched the third rail of guns here on Wednesday, pivoting off last week's Colorado movie theater shootings to call for a "consensus around violence reduction" in the country.

    With the last public event of a four-day trip that started with a visit to the Aurora, Colo., hospital where almost two dozen victims were brought after the shootings, Obama threw his weight behind measures to strengthen background checks at gun shows and other efforts to keep weapons out of the hands of mentally-ill people.

    "These steps shouldn't be controversial, they should be common sense," Obama told the National Urban League conference.

    "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers and not in the hands of crooks. They belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities," he added.


    Obama: AK-47s belong on battlefield, not streets - POLITICO.com
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Mind control is an adolescent fantasy given way too much credence on the net.
    Actually, there ARE real life examples of it. They have used drugs, deception, and a kind of torture to do it. And ever heard of stockholm syndrome? In a way it is caused by deception and torture. The captors and others may not view it as such, but when the hostage is forced to treat them nice, and act like they are family, it is deception. Even being forced to stay there, say certain things, be on anothers time table is torture.

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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      None of this matters. He killed people. He either needs to be put away for life
      if he IS insane or executed if he's not.

      End of story.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Ernie Lo View Post

          If he is insane, or was a victim of mind control (lets just keep an open mind here), would you be open to him being kept some where, to receive treatment then released one day if he is healed/fixed?
          Maybe if they could do that. There is every bit of evidence that they CAN'T do that.

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          • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
            There is documented history of cause and effect.

            There are documented congressional records and other government records of other countries with outright admitted crimes of government(s).

            Like when the Tuskegee Air Men were purposely infected with a virus, for starters.

            NOT to convict the source of the cause of the crime is sheer stupidity, insanity and sticking your head under a rock or somewhere else where the sun don't shine.

            Stuff just RANDOMLY happens, right?

            Well, yeah, most or all stuff is random and should be dealt with, "if" your ONLY source is the "stupid" news and your research ,if any done at all, is with "stupid" news resources, of course that can only be the conclusion, random stuff.

            Certain things are random, yes, but certain things have almost identical M.O. and suspicious coincidental time line and/or circumstances and evidence, that it is impossible to be random.

            Yep.

            The officials/agencies that cause these crimes NEVER get convicted, ever, just some fall guy, so they keep doing it again, and again, and again.

            Of course, none of it matters...,

            ....and Lee Harvey Oswald was the lone gunmen, it really does not matter if we could not catch the planners and the others involved that were government hires, right?

            Because if they done that, that we know of, they have not done anything before that or since then, right?

            You know, the world nor the jews believed Hitler would, could and did do the things he did, but he gradually graduated to that, a process, he got more and more ridiculous as the public allowed him to be, sort of like what we are doing now, accepting more and more ridiculous things as normal or as randomly organic, either by the public or government officials.

            They could not imagine or believe that anyone could do that or that things would ever get that bad, sure.

            Oh, and not that anyone cares that the Nazi scientist and social engineers were hired and recruited by various nations after the war , chiefly the United States of America put these guys on the payroll "for scientific" reasons and research/development...,... uh-huh.

            I think that's the same line Hitler used, you know, to raise German pride and economic conditions. Ask the Austrians what happened when they adopted the Nazi way because of their severe depression, read that, they went from the frying pan to the fire, read the daily crimes, yeah, impossible for history to repeat itself, impossible.

            CAUSE ALWAYS MATTER.

            If it did'nt, why would we need science at all?



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            • Profile picture of the author Kay King
              Honestly - I have no idea how you think all this relates to one nutcase (who did not have an AK-47) who killed a lot of innocent people in a movie theater.

              That's a problem today - we look for "reasons" for everything. Sometimes the only reason is insanity or evil of one person and nothing more.
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              • Profile picture of the author bravo75
                Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

                Honestly - I have no idea how you think all this relates to one nutcase (who did not have an AK-47) who killed a lot of innocent people in a movie theater.

                That's a problem today - we look for "reasons" for everything. Sometimes the only reason is insanity or evil of one person and nothing more.
                When governments can totally engineer desirable political outcomes of foreign, sovereign countries, then it should come as no surprise that these same "governments" are capable of blasting away 12 sheep on domestic turf in order change the people of America's constitutional right to bear arms.
                This was one of their easier exercises.

                These engineerings I'm referring to are the demonization of Iran, the support of Al Quaida in Syria etc.

                Is sacrificing a couple of Schlomos in order to change a law in the supreme superpower of the world really that hard to believe?

                Either that or he is just another lone nutter, like Oswald (sark).
                Doubt it though. The atrocities that the U.S dictatorship are capable of are beyond our comprehension.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Ernie Lo View Post

          If he is insane, or was a victim of mind control (lets just keep an open mind here), would you be open to him being kept some where, to receive treatment then released one day if he is healed/fixed?
          Maybe if they could do that. There is every bit of evidence that they CAN'T do that.

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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Some say oswald was a patsy also!
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

      Some say oswald was a patsy also!
      This ****ing dude doesn't even know what he's done wrong. I tend to believe him.

      EXCLUSIVE:
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        This ****ing dude doesn't even know what he's done wrong. I tend to believe him.

        EXCLUSIVE:
        If you believe him, better take a look at your forehead.
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        • Profile picture of the author bravo75
          Originally Posted by KimW View Post

          If you believe him, better take a look at your forehead.
          Hey, I'm just putting together a few intriguing facts surrounding this bizarre case. Don't shoot the messenger.
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          • Profile picture of the author The 13th Warrior
            Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post


            Hey, I'm just putting together a few intriguing facts surrounding this bizarre case. Don't shoot the messenger.

            Hey, read history.

            As you can see then as now, it just doesn't pay to be a messenger.

            Leave a beacon or lantern in the window for other seekers, which will be few, and save your self.

            Being a messenger........ ,.... not only does the pay stinks, you simply welcome unwanted

            ingratitude.

            The corporate/government media will not put the facts together like you, their job is to cover such facts.

            Journalism is going the way of the wagon.

            When's the last time you seen a wagon??


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          • Profile picture of the author KimW
            Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

            Hey, I'm just putting together a few intriguing facts surrounding this bizarre case. Don't shoot the messenger.
            My bad for not being clearer. My comment was directed at your remark that you believe him,not at the story you posted.

            Convenient Amnesia? :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Here is ANOTHER theory. Interesting tidbits!

    COLORADO MASSACRE LINKED TO HISTORIC BANK FRAUD


    July 25, 2012
    A highly disturbing Ministry of Finance report on the largest bank fraud in history that is circulating in the Kremlin today warns that it is “within the realm of possibility” that the shocking movie massacre in Colorado this past week is but another“integral part” in the deliberate plan put in place by Western banking elites and their allies to collapse the global economy.
    The massacre cited in this report is being referred to as the “2012 Aurora Shooting” wherein suspect James Holmes[photo 2nd left] is purported to have opened fire during the playing of a movie killing 12 and injuring 58 in one of the worst mass shootings in recent US history.
    Interestingly, this report notes, James Holmes is extremely intelligent, a gifted scientist and grew up in an affluent neighborhood; an eerie similarity he shares with other noted American killers of the past 3 decades including Andrew Cunanan, John Gardner, John Hinckley, Timothy McVeigh, Ted Kaczynski, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold.
    Most important to note about James Holmes, however, this report says, is that his father, Robert Holmes, was said to have been scheduled to testify within the next few weeks before a US Senate panel on the largest bank fraud scandal in world history that is currently unfolding and threatens to destabilize and destroy the Western banking system.
    Robert Holmes, whose “blueblood” family links go back to the Mayflower, is known throughout the global banking community as being the creator of one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed and is credited with developing predictive models for financial services; credit and fraud risk models, first and third party application fraud models and internet/online banking fraud models.
    Educated at the University of California, Berkeley and Stanford University, Robert Holmes is currently the senior lead scientist with the American credit score company FICO, which was formally known as Fair, Isaac and Company, and which every American citizen is beholden to should they need to borrow money.
    The massive banking crime being investigated by the US Senate is called the LIBOR Scandal where UK banks fixed theLondon Interbank Borrowing Rate with the complicity of the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve (which knew about this crime for 4 years and didn’t report it) and many other major Western banks.
    Not known to the majority of those affected by this LIBOR rate scandal (which is everyone in the world) is that its historically low setting of interests rates since the beginning of the Global Financial Crisis of 2007-2012 has done more to destroy the life savings, stock investments and retirements of Americas middle class than any other single event in their entire history.
    Even worse, according to this report, Holmes recently completed his work on what is called one of the most sophisticated computer algorithms ever developed that not only uncovered the true intent of this massive fraud, but is, also, able to trace the Trillions of Dollars “lost” to the exact bank accounts of the elite classes who have stolen it.
    Ministry intelligence officials note in this report that it is “no coincidence” that this Colorado massacre occurred within minutes of London’s Guardian News Service releasing their shocking report this past Saturday (21 July) titled “Wealth Doesn't trickle Down – It Just Floods Offshore, Research Reveals” as Robert Holmes algorithms were said used to discover this massive fraud scheme.
    Equally curious to note about this massacre is that the American intelligence website TheIntelHub.Com in their 23 July article titled “Hallmarks of a False Flag: Colorado University Held Identical Drill on Same Day as Aurora Theater Mass Shooting, Mind Control, and Multiple Suspects” states that just mere hours before this shocking crime was committed the Rocky Vista University College of Osteopathic Medicine was holding an identical drill that simulated a shooter in a movie theater.
    The popular InfoWars.Com website further notes that “false flag” events such as the Colorado massacre are actively planned for by the US Army as noted in their training manual titled “Foreign Internal Defense Tactics Techniques and Procedures for Special Forces”.
    Even though the true objective of this massacre was may never be known, it is more than interesting to note that some in the“mainstream” US media are not accepting the “official line,” such as Fox News reporter Ben Swann from their WXIX-FOX19 station out of Cincinnati, Ohio, who asks:
    “Why did Holmes go to the expense and trouble of rigging his apartment with an array of deadly explosives and then immediately tell police about the bombs when he was arrested? If Holmes wanted to kill as many people as possible, why warn the cops ahead of time?
    Given the fact that Holmes was a graduate student in neuroscience, where did he obtain the skills to create a maze of bombs so complex that it took the FBI two days to disarm them? According to experts, the intricacy of the bombs was reminiscent of war zones – how could Holmes have set all this up without help from an explosives expert?
    Despite police claiming “every single indicator” tells them the shooting was a lone wolf attack, numerous witnesses have described accomplices. Initial police reports that suggested the involvement of two or more shooters were quickly buried and the lone wolf narrative aggressively pushed.
    As Swann points out, eyewitnesses interviewed after the shooting such as Corbin Dates state that Holmes received a phone call from someone while he was inside the theater and responded by moving to the emergency exit, suggesting the call was an accomplice coordinating the attack.
    Dates also said he saw Holmes by the exit door “signaling somebody or looking for somebody to come his way.
    Another eyewitness added, “From what we saw he wasn’t alone – he had someone with him. Because the second can of tear gas didn’t come from his side.”

    COLORADO MASSACRE LINKED TO HISTORIC BANK FRAUD >> Four Winds 10 - Truth Winds

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay - so he was a mind control student, etc ..............that doesn't explain all of the first witness reports about accomplices. Reports before the "official" word came out was that there were several - even cops reported "one suspect got away". Suddenly the official word is one guy.

    If there is any mind control experiment going on here it is the people in the theater and the general public that are the subjects of this experiment.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Ok, I'm more confused then...lol
    I was specifically talking about him.
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  • Profile picture of the author SandraLarkin
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Lack of evidence is always proof of conspiracy.

    .
    ? I get your drift but do not understand how "lack of evidence" is involved in this case. People and police made reports in the first few minutes, then the official word came out and it was different than people were reporting. So it's not lack of evidence, but a completely disjointed "official" statement that is bringing about questions, not a lack of evidence.

    Plus you can figure in a few circumstances that are being mulled over that seem to correlate in some fashion, but nobody is sure how - or if. Such being the emergency drill being conducted on campus which used the same fictional scenario (movie theater). I don't believe in such a coincidence.......but that doesn't mean that there were a lot of people who figured that into a plan. It could be something that a lone shooter would incorporate into his plan, though. If it was a lone shooter.

    From the way the reports on the timeline changed after the official word was released, I have a hard time believing this was a lone shooter, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author CpvGuru
      The more you look the more you find.

      Never stop asking questions though.

      The consiracy theory is so easy to unfurl here. But I think the bigger issue is the level of distrust to the government. When have they been honest with us, when have they been good stewards?

      Now that James Dad who was set to testify in the Libor scandal is not going to (tenatively) all I can say is wow.

      The 1st 911 calls describe a person ins blue and white plaid shirt.

      If the shooter was indeed wearing a ballistic shield and gas mask how in the world can we be certain it was James? how would you ID the man as a witness.

      For certain there were CCTV cameras can we not see the evidence now if it's so open and shut?

      There are lotsa of odd questions to be answered but you have to look.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    There WAS a conspiracy! They said they had TWO suspects, then they said only one was involved, and didn't mention it again. *****THAT***** is a conspiracy! With Jewel, they made a profile, found him, and CHANGED their profile, and then LIED in saying he MATCHED "THE PROFILE". THAT was a conspiracy! If ANYTHING heinous happens with an attempted murder, EVEN if it doesn't have guns, they start talking about gun control. THAT is a conspiracy. They don't talk about all those saved by... THAT is a conspiracy.

    THAT IS FACT, SORRY! YOU blame US for looking for a reason, EVEN if it is the government or some group that isn't recognized or may be respected, but DON'T blame them for jumping the gun EVEN if there is no tie! So what should I say about THAT?

    This doesn't add up. It was planned for THAT theater at THAT time, and for THAT movie, and it was planned for MONTHS! That doesn't sound like a normal crazy person, ESPECIALLY not one as sedate as he now appears. THAT is likely a conspiracy TOO though! Defense lawyers often try to win by any means OTHER than the truth! The defense lawyer, defendant, and all others on the team may have CONSPIRED to have him appear as he does to get an insanity defense.

    In Colorado, the prosecution is NOT allowed to examine the defendant, and must PROVE that he is SANE to defeat an insanity defense.

    BTW MOST, if not all, of the booby traps COULD have been used in the theater and did NOT use guns!

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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Lack of evidence is always proof of conspiracy.

    Calling persuasion mind control clothes it in a neat, conspiratorial clown suit. There's nothing new about persuasion and propaganda. If there's anything new, it's the lack of critical thinking among the increasingly ill-educated and the paranoid mindset it engenders.

    I expect that soon a doctor checking someone's reflexes will be accused of knee control.

    Stimulus/response is not mind control.
    I think this is the closest explanation so far.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Lack of evidence is always proof of conspiracy.

    Calling persuasion mind control clothes it in a neat, conspiratorial clown suit. There's nothing new about persuasion and propaganda. If there's anything new, it's the lack of critical thinking among the increasingly ill-educated and the paranoid mindset it engenders.

    I expect that soon a doctor checking someone's reflexes will be accused of knee control.

    Stimulus/response is not mind control.
    What a wonderfully constructed collage of nonsensical gibberish.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Playing pot to someone's kettle?

      That doesn't sound like a normal crazy person
      Earth to Steve - did you really post that? Is someone controlling your mind?

      If you look. you'll notice the person who is claiming "more than one" in the theater is appearing with every reporter who will talk to him. A little conjecture/imagination on this guy's part and he gets his 15 minutes of fame.

      Sometimes it really is a duck.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Playing pot to someone's kettle?



        Earth to Steve - did you really post that? Is someone controlling your mind?

        If you look. you'll notice the person who is claiming "more than one" in the theater is appearing with every reporter who will talk to him. A little conjecture/imagination on this guy's part and he gets his 15 minutes of fame.

        Sometimes it really is a duck.
        So if it slithers on the ground, and has fangs, it's a duck?

        Does that guy have ANY tie to that theater? Even so, why did he pick THAT day and movie? Was he in the military, and did he know about the people there? I DOUBT IT!
        EVEN if he had a runin with the ticket office, etc... Why didn't he attack THEM? There is generally a trigger or it happens close to the incident. It is either targeted towards those that are, or directly related to, those affecting the person, or random people.

        THAT is why a lot of times they end up being suspicious about a methodically planned specific attack being from an insane person.

        He would have gotten his 15 minutes of fame by going to ANY place and doing this. HECK, he could have just waited a month or so, and did NOTHING(Including not paying his rent), and waited! He would get his fame when the landlord tried to show his place to prospects.

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        • You have to admit that there is more than meets the eye here, for example:

          I read a few people mention NLP, this guy wasn't studying no cheap bargain basement NLP crap, the government has been developing and perfecting mind control for years, if you did your research you would understand this isn't a game, this is absolutely as real as a heart attack.

          Do your own research for a change Google "MKUltra" this program is on record as being an illegal mind control/behavioral program ran by the CIA the government all you guys think is really working to protect you...

          Some strange facts about this case:
          The before and after photos look similar but it's not the same person -> Aurora Shooter Cover-Up - Pictures Tell a Thousand Words :

          In the before pictures the guy has brown eyes, the after picture the guy has blue eyes, eye brows are different, nose...close but NO CIGAR!

          If this guy is so crazy how did he have the wherewithal to setup his apartment with a complex booby trap that took cops days to undo...

          Why would he go on a rampage killing 12 people and then decide to confess and tell the cops that he booby trapped his apartment why would he do that if he was already apparently in the mood to kill a lot of people?

          How did an unemployed graduate student pay for all the ammunition (100 rounds), including hand guns assault rifles, gas mask, bulletproof vest, groin protector,etc. Does this sound right to you? And if he is so crazy why would he go to so many extremes to protect himself from harm by wearing a vest?

          How come in the official report the Aurora police say there was no accomplice but a witness on the scene says that someone took a phone call and left the theatre and then about 15 minutes into the scene the emergency door swung right open this guy was there on the scene with no reason to lie
          There are a lot of questions to be answered and I for one would love to know the truth, 12 people were killed and many others permanently scarred by this devilish event. The reddish orange haired guy they show us in the court room doesn't even look like he could stay awoke long enough to fire one shot let alone coordinate this whole thing on his own...
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Playing pot to someone's kettle?



        Earth to Steve - did you really post that? Is someone controlling your mind?

        If you look. you'll notice the person who is claiming "more than one" in the theater is appearing with every reporter who will talk to him. A little conjecture/imagination on this guy's part and he gets his 15 minutes of fame.

        Sometimes it really is a duck.
        That doesn't explain the first police call that said a second suspect "got away". It's not just the one witness. It was also the cop.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    There are high levels of mind control able to be induced via cell phone. If anyone who thinks there's a lot of "conspiracy theory" in events such as this shooting ------- look at the areas they happen in. There is an under-ground base much like Garmish in Colorado Springs, and coincidentally - mass shootings in Colorado that are beginning to be occasional occurrences now.

    If you want to know more about REAL mind control abilities -- just check out patents on the official government patent website. Do you understand the difference between paranoia and a government patent? Do you understand that the patented item has to be proven to work before it can be patented? You can get patent pending on about anything - but for the patent to be granted, the item has to work efficiently for the purpose stated in the patent. So reading the patents will not only help you follow the money back to the funder -- it will take away all your little urges to yell about tinfoil and paranoia when someone tells about the capability of an instrument. :rolleyes:

    Thomas placed the list at 150 patents in a post on the OT around 5 years back. That list is still growing. It still makes me sick to my stomach to pick up a cell phone after reading through some of the mind control patents surrounding them.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Ok I'll say it.
      Am I the only one who reads the thread title and sees John Holmes instead of James?
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      • Profile picture of the author waterotter
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        Ok I'll say it.
        Am I the only one who reads the thread title and sees John Holmes instead of James?
        ThomM, whatcha smokin' ?

        Thread title clearly reads James, not John.

        James Holmes Studied Mind Control In College.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

          ThomM, whatcha smokin' ?

          Thread title clearly reads James, not John.
          Blue Mystic, a little Ecstasy Blue with a brown hash chaser.
          I suppose I'm the only one who, when I think of the name John Holmes I think of the Wonderland Murders more then the porn films also Wonderland murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    So are you thinking there may be some sort of family resemblance in this one? Family name has slid a bit since Sherlock, eh?

    Seriously - after hearing what his dad was into just before his lawsuit - who knows?
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