Why Its important to Spread Good IM Information and not Be A Poser....

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In one sentence:

"Because people spend their families grocery money on this stuff."

Be responsible, dont be a rehasher, translations get lost in the dixie cup line... If you dont know something for a hard fact, dont write a WSO about it.

Now I know anyone who WOULD write a WSO using rehash doesnt care about Karma anyway, but maybe this will help you think first. You have a family too.



-JD
  • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
    Originally Posted by John Durham View Post

    "Because people spend their families grocery money on this stuff."

    -JD
    That is so true. The other thing to consider that buyers from other countries are paying a lot more than the Americans because of the (usually) shocking exchange rate.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Responsibility and integrity takes some empathy, John. People who are online to make $$ fast with no consideration of long-term business don't really fit into the classification of people with empathy. Those that actually do, don't always have enough lights on in the belfry to know that they are producing pure crap.

    How do you tell a person that believes you need no skills or knowledge to make money online that the product they just spent (a whole) several hours sewing together is crap?
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    • Profile picture of the author John Durham
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Responsibility and integrity takes some empathy, John. People who are online to make $$ fast with no consideration of long-term business don't really fit into the classification of people with empathy. Those that actually do, don't always have enough lights on in the belfry to know that they are producing pure crap.

      How do you tell a person that believes you need no skills or knowledge to make money online that the product they just spent (a whole) several hours sewing together is crap?
      I tell them they should just learn the sales material for an actual credible product, or service, and be a salesman instead until they have learned some things... But that doesnt always work.

      I tried to share some actual knowledge about forum posting...thinking it would help some people, in a free report- but you are right, ones with no empathy take that knowledge and use it to prey. Sometimes even good knowledge is dangerous in non empathetic hands.

      Ps. Sal, I do also understand that between what Diane is saying and what you are saying, It will never go away, because alot of times hunger and oppressive circumstances can kill empathy, because people get the idea that they are Robin hood, and justify it to themselves...lol

      Meaning: They think that they need the money more than the people they are taking from, so no harm.


      Ps.Im not trying to be the moral police but this post was inspired by watching another warrior give some perfectly HORRID advice that could send a newby down the wrong path for months, and the reason was because they didnt know what they were talking about, just posting to be "seen".
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    All of what you all say is true.

    Bottom line though is that anybody that spends grocery money for anything is nuts.

    That is one of the first things I tell people who 'cry poor' or cry 'desperate'.

    DON'T SPECULATE!
    THERE ARE NO GUARANTEES!

    If you don't have grocery or rent or utilities money, then you need to find a job.

    Save your spare change and start a business in your spare time.

    Set a budget you can live with comfortably over the long-term.


    ... and as far as expecting everyone to have ethics - especially posers (who basically are showing their dishonest colors just by posing) - it probably ain't going to happen.

    SO BUYER BEWARE.

    USE YOUR COMMON SENSE.
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    • Profile picture of the author ExRat
      Hi John,

      I admire your desire to share an honourable stance and to stand firm on those beliefs.

      But this problem won't go away on forums, on the internet and in society in general until it stops trickling down from the top (the very 'top' in society, not the top of forums).

      Empathy vs psychopathy.

      Currently, the former is (or can feel like) a losing proposition for those of us who can only do things one particular way because we 'self-police' ourselves, because there is only one way - the honourable way.

      Ayn Rand summed it up in Atlas Shrugged -

      "When a society establishes criminals-by-right and looters-by-law, men who use force to seize the wealth of disarmed victims, then money becomes its creators' avenger. Such looters believe it safe to rob defenseless men, once they've passed a law to disarm them. But their loot becomes the magnet for other looters, who get it from them as they got it. Then the race goes, not to the ablest at production, but to those most ruthless at brutality. When force is the standard, the murderer wins over the pickpocket. And then that society vanishes, in a spread of ruins and slaughter."

      "When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion- When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing- when you see that money is flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors- when you see that men get richer by graft and by pull than by work, and your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you- when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice- you may know that your society is doomed."

      "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world?' You are."


      ......................

      But I take heart from a couple of lines from 'desiderata' -

      "And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

      Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive Him to be,
      and whatever your labors and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul.
      With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy."
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