American Tourist wants gun to protect himself from people giving away free tickets to local event.

12 years ago

He's from Kalamazoo. The motto on the side of their cars reads, "Shoot first, ask questions later."

Plus, The Stampede is the biggest bestest Rodeo west of anywhere - and they're giving away Free tickets? And he feels threatened?

Dibs on his tickets...

I nominate this guy for "rodeo clown for a day"

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candoit2

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate

He's from Kalamazoo. The motto on the side of their cars reads, "Shoot first, ask questions later."

Plus, The Stampede is the biggest bestest Rodeo west of anywhere - and they're giving away Free tickets? And he feels threatened?

Dibs on his tickets...

I nominate this guy for "rodeo clown for a day"

Actually, the thing we can all learn from this is that from now on instead of guys handing out tickets, use pretty young women instead.

Of course to make them look non threatening to our tourists they should wear clothing tight and revealing enough to make it impossible to conceal a weapon. :-)

Anything to save lives right? :-)

Aaron

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ThomM

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

Apparently a cop from Michigan was in Calgary during the Calgary Stampede and there was a group giving out free tickets to the Stampede in the park to families.

The cop interpreted their friendliness as aggression and wrote the paper upset that he wasn't able to carry a gun to defend himself against these people and describing his traumatic ordeal.

You would think that a cop of 20 years would have basic people skills and the ability to handle situations without resorting to needing a gun.

Aaron

You don't know our cops very well Aaron

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candoit2 12 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

You don't know our cops very well Aaron

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- ThomM 12 years ago
  
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  I hear that.
  I'm still a little baffled by a cop feeling threatened by a Canadian.
  I live about 200 miles south of Montreal and almost every Sunday I'm riding north of me. What I'm saying is I've met more then a few Canadians
  I have yet to meet one who was any different from anyone else I've met. The only exception is the French-Canadian women. They take sexy to a whole new level
  
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seasoned

12 years ago

In the US, there are FOUR types of people that become cops. Frankly, I would say you can only trust ONE! HEY, ANOTHER example of a "cop shooting"!

Cop Shoots Man After Running Down Daughter - ABC News

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MoneyMagnetMagnate

12 years ago

Seriously folks - click on "wrote the paper" above - this story almost has to be a joke, the way it is written...

Damn aggressively friendly Canadians - you should be ashamed of yourselves - ashamed I say - for trying to give away tickets to your sordid debauchery...

- the next thig you know, you will be forcing bacon and Shania Twain on everyone! (Me first!

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And I still think the 'rodeo clown' idea is sound - stick him in a barrel...let the bulls sort it out. :rolleyes:

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

More America bashing? Does that make you feel better about yourself?

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Robert Michael

12 years ago

lol dennis, he just doesn't know what he's talkin aboot - thats all.

PS: I love Canada. I had the most awesome time when I was there. Niagara Falls is beautiful. Really the only word to describe it..

Not sure what I like better.. Canada or Myrtle Beach.. very tough call.

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Whos That Guru

lol dennis, he just doesn't know what he's talkin aboot - thats all.

PS: I love Canada. I had the most awesome time when I was there. Niagara Falls is beautiful. Really the only word to describe it..

Not sure what I like better.. Canada or Myrtle Beach.. very tough call.

I agree, Canada is great. My wife and I honeymooned there and had a wonderful time and met some truly marvelous people. I get a little tired of foreigners taking potshots at us though. I usually just ignore it, but I guess I'm not feeling as tolerant today, especially when...

...right in OP is a link to a story that says:

In amongst the coverage, a rumor that the two men who accosted the Walwras were promoters distributing free Stampede tickets. Not so, says Doug Fraser, media relations manager for the 2012 Calgary Stampede. The event does its own promotion, and "I have not been made aware of anything like that," he said.

Yet the OP made no reference to that, and instead wrote about the rumors as if there is no doubt to what really happened.

Excuse me for being rational, but it makes no sense that a person would confuse someone innocently giving away free tickets with a threat to his safety. The Stampede denies it, so what really happened is unknown. Yet, the OP wants to bash the guy as if the RUMOR was an established fact. The only "fact" I see is that the OP and others saw a chance to bash an American and jumped on it with willful disregard for the truth.

Even so, it isn't the OP that bothers me so much as the general disregard for the truth and fairness that is so prevelent around the world today.

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candoit2

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I agree, Canada is great. My wife and I honeymooned there and had a wonderful time and met some truly marvelous people. I get a little tired of foreigners taking potshots at us though. I usually just ignore it, but I guess I'm not feeling as tolerant today, especially when...

...right in OP is a link to a story that says:

Yet the OP made no reference to that, and instead wrote about the rumors as if there is no doubt to what really happened.

Excuse me for being rational, but it makes no sense that a person would confuse someone innocently giving away free tickets with a threat to his safety. The Stampede denies it, so what really happened is unknown. Yet, the OP wants to bash the guy as if the RUMOR was an established fact. The only "fact" I see is that the OP and others saw a chance to bash an American and jumped on it with willful disregard for the truth.

Even so, it isn't the OP that bothers me so much as the general disregard for the truth and fairness that is so prevelent around the world today.

There are other reports that they were from an Oil field company passing out tickets. Regardless, I think you are being sensitive.

Aaron

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Dennis Gaskill 12 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

There are other reports that they were from an Oil field company passing out tickets. Regardless, I think you are being sensitive.

Aaron

If you think my preference for finding out the facts instead of spreading rumors that could be lies is being sensitive, then yup, I guess I am. I have no problem with that. I'm old-fashioned that way.
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12 years ago

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jimbo13 12 years ago

It would have been great if he was a tourist in London the last couple of weeks to see The Olympics and allowed to have his gun with him.

The carnage.

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  It would have been great if he was a tourist in London the last couple of weeks to see The Olympics and allowed to have his gun with him.
  
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  At the shot start of every race, he would have been in a crouching combat position yelling "Everybody DOWN!"
  
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SteveJohnson

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

Apparently a cop from Michigan was in Calgary during the Calgary Stampede and there was a group giving out free tickets to the Stampede in the park to families.

The cop interpreted their friendliness as aggression and wrote the paper upset that he wasn't able to carry a gun to defend himself against these people and describing his traumatic ordeal.

You would think that a cop of 20 years would have basic people skills and the ability to handle situations without resorting to needing a gun.

He tried to make an argument as to why guns should be carried in Canada, but was more convincing in proving why not just anyone is allowed to carry a gun here.

Aaron

What *I* would think is that a cop of 20 years can tell the difference between aggression and jovial over-friendliness.

You distort the point of his letter, which is valid: when the police are minutes away and the criminals are the ones that have the guns, because law-abiding citizens do not, the outcome is pretty much pre-ordained.

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HeySal

12 years ago

If our police and gov weren't so hostile and dangerous it might not be such a scary thought to not carry one here, either. You are 8 more times likely here to be killed by a cop than a terrorist. Some odds I don't care for.

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derekwong28

12 years ago

Irrespective of the true facts of encounter, this is what the officer which I found amusing

"Would we not expect a uniformed officer to pull his or her weapon to intercede in a life-or-death encounter to protect self, or another? Why then should the expectation be lower for a citizen of Canada or a visitor?"

Just which country in the world allows a foreign tourist to carry and use guns in its territory? Does the US allow foreign tourists to do that?

The fact is that tourists are at risk of crime all over world, some of which are violent. Foreign tourists do not have full citizenship righst either. If you cannot accept this, you should not travel to other countries at all.

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Daniel Evans

12 years ago

Originally Posted by AaronJones

You would think that a cop of 20 years would have basic people skills and the ability to handle situations without resorting to needing a gun.

You would think that they'd up the age on who's permitted to enter the police force given that this one in question seems to be nothing more than a child who wants to play with a gun.

We've got them in the UK swanning around thinking they are tough guys. The public have to keep them in order.

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by derekwong28

Irrespective of the true facts of encounter, this is what the officer which I found amusing

"Would we not expect a uniformed officer to pull his or her weapon to intercede in a life-or-death encounter to protect self, or another? Why then should the expectation be lower for a citizen of Canada or a visitor?"

Just which country in the world allows a foreign tourist to carry and use guns in its territory? Does the US allow foreign tourists to do that?

None, I hope. It would be stupid.

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

You would think that they'd up the age on who's permitted to enter the police force given that this one in question seems to be nothing more than a child who wants to play with a gun.

We've got them in the UK swanning around thinking they are tough guys. The public have to keep them in order.

Yep, got the same thing here. Most of the young guys are pretty level headed, but there's always going to be a few bad apples in any large group of people.

@Aaron - Just an FYI, I'm not defending the guy in question. I'm just tired of the America bashing. It seems to be a growing sport. When the Stampede denied the rumor, why run with the rumor it like it's a fact? Why not just state your case against what you know is true instead of presenting your case on a bed of rumors?

Sigh. I need a break from this place. A long, long break.

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candoit2

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

@Aaron - Just an FYI, I'm not defending the guy in question. I'm just tired of the America bashing. It seems to be a growing sport. When the Stampede denied the rumor, why run with the rumor it like it's a fact?

I had read a few various articles and one that I read left that part out. I found this article presented better and thought it was the same. Plus it looked like a more credible source.

I skimmed over it and missed that part with the denial. So I did not know it was there until you pointed it out.

All the talk here is that it was a local oil field company that gave out the tickets.

This is not an unusual thing and reading in the comments section of some of these articles & twitter, people are saying they got tickets from those guys.

This is where the story took off that these guys were just giving out tickets, because of twitter etc.

That is why I linked to that, and I did not realize the stampede had denied that they were involved because the similar article from a less reputable source left that part out.

My local paper also wrote about it as fact that they were from the stampede.

The source of the tickets is confusion, but someone was giving out tickets and the connection was made and reported that they were the people approaching the paranoid cop.

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candoit2

12 years ago

LOL at the people trying to paint me as an anti American because I think it is discussion worthy that a US cop thinks he should be allowed to carry a deadly weapon in my country & his reasoning is absolute proof of why it is not a good idea to allow people to carry guns.

I wasn't coming here to preach an anti American message to a bunch of Americans, the exact opposite is I expected the majority of Americans to find this cop as ridiculous as Canadians found him.

Aaron

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

All right, Aaron. Peace.

I'm gone.

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