Australia cigarette plain packaging law upheld by court

This will sweep across the world now. The UK, India and New Zealand have been watching this case very closely with a view to doing the same thing.

After that I can see the rest of Europe and Canada following suit as well.

Ken

I really don't know how it will affect smoking rates.

As you said, it'll hurt the 'baccy companies. Whether that's by deterring people from smoking or them having to lower their prices and reducing the number of "brands" they have is beyond me.

Judging by the amount of money/resources they've thrown at the case tends to point in the direction of what the government was hoping to achieve. A lot of health experts say it'll work, so we'll have to wait and see. I'm sure in a years time both parties (gov/baccy) will produce data on the impact.

No doubt the govt. data will say it works, and the baccy companies will produce data to show it isn't. It's then simply a matter of splitting the difference to see what the impact has really been.

Here's an interesting article on the subject:

https://theconversation.edu.au/big-t...packaging-8807

Take note of the "trick" that Phillip Morris Australia/Asia tried to pull.

The nannies strike again.

While I couldn't care less about the tobacco companies, the precedent this case has set bothers me somewhat. Australia being the nanny state it is, I wonder how long it will be before the government attempts this on other industries.

-Chris

i smoke, i quit, i smoke i quit, i don't know if i am addicted or not.
i have gone months with out smoking, or even "nicking".

but i eventually always wind up smoking again....

Of course when i was growing up, there were billboards and magazine ads that
said smoking was good for you, made you stand out, made you cool and sexy.

truth is, as far as a i can tell, none of those ads mattered to me...

I smoke, because a girl i liked smoked, and i wanted her to like me...
so i stole cigg butts from may parents ash tray, and later packs .

and some where between faking i smoked and high school... i became a real
died in the wool smoker with a pack a day habit.

that is is over 30 years ago.

I say i want to quit, i have quit, and i do quit. It just never sticks, im not sure
if i am just a *ussy with no self control, or i am an addicted fool who cant grasp
reality.

maybe i am a bit of both.

what i do know. is packaging means nothing to me, at all.

i do not in any way care about it... the brand matters, only because i have 3 brands that
i am familiar with and i know will " fill my need, as far as *** taste *** goes "

I know that smoking is stupid, i know that smoking "probably killed my father"
i know that there are @ least 1000 good reasons not to smoke.

but the "packedge" has never once entered the equation.

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tell people this is the only chance ( life ) they get, there is no other
( reincarnation or other beliefs )

then cut off there pinky toe with no antiseptic or pain medication and say
( yeah.... that's like an Indian burn compared to cancer )

that MAY, possibly , but not probably... help people too NEVER pick up a ciggarette
no matter how sexy / hot / yummy / he / she / is

just my thoughts on it.

Gee - what ever happened to bubblegum cigars, and candie ciggies...:rolleyes:

Hardcore smokers will probably just start identifying with the pics...

"A carton of 'mouth cancer' please, and one of 'blindness'...say, how are those new 'throat cancer' menthols?"

To my considerable surprise, there's a lot of statistical evidence from many other countries that they do. And the extent to which some people give up correlates very closely with what proportion of them are ugly and how ugly they are. It's one of those things which you'd think probably wouldn't be true, but it actually seems to be.

There are a couple of decades'-worth of statistics now, I think, from some countries, and they all seem to say the same things. (Which is, of course, why other countries are increasingly duplicating these policies, now that it's been internationally proven that they work).

I hear you. I imagine that it wouldn't, to me, either.

But policies are formed on the basis of many years' statistics monitored per hundred thousand people, of course, rather than on anecdotal evidence and opinion. Perhaps wisely(?), the professional healthcare statisticians who are employed to advise governments on these matters don't take much notice of you or me.

I have a friend who smoked for about 40 years and now smokes the ecigs instead and thinks they are great. They are cheaper, healthier because you don't get all the crap that you have in real cigarettes and are longer lasting so you don't have to go and buy more every day. I am proud of him for doing it. The damage has obviously been done but at least he is changing a very bad habit.