We'll be hearing about more of these types of things as society continues its meltdown. Society always goes vicious during collapse.

I saw this earlier - WOW! - Crazy, talk about getting kicked out of school on your first day...but the report I saw inferred he might have been bullied, and went home and came back...I don't know wth is going on anymore...

On the other side of the crazy, I put a story thread in yesterday about a 3 yr old in pre-school who is deaf, named 'Hunter', and because the school is zero tolerance, they won't let him sign his own name, because it is a 'gun shape'...???

have a feeling that he was bullied by someone, and was scared to go to school for grade 9... And brought a gun to "protect himself" but, then just shot at someone who made fun of him.. that's what it looks like anyway.

Caleb

People are sick in the head.

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jeez, it keeps happening.. it's horrible

FBI stats show that violent crime has gone DOWN each of the past 5 years and is at the lowest rate in decades. And if we take into account the bad recession we've been in for most of that time, it's even more impressive as poor economies ususally mean higher crime.

https://www.google.com/search?source...0&aqi=g4&pbx=1

Other studies show that war is at the lowest rate in recorded history. There are fewer people being killed in wars now than ever before.

I hate to be the bearer of "bad" news for all the gloom and doom folks, but things are actually getting better, not worse. What is really happening is that there are cameras everywhere and a 24 hour news cycle. We are just being shown bad things more often. However, this doesn't mean there are more bad things.

this is bad. everyday we hear news like this. but there is absolutely nothing we can do about it

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Look at the source of those stats...nuff said.

Caleb, your a good kid and a smart kid, but this is the only time you have known.

Ernie, his point in that those times were worse than now, even though you admitted there were some previously worse times. At least that is what I got out of his post.

Written history and what really happened are rarely the same,as we have learned time and time again.
You can know the Vietnam war happened, I can know how it really affected people. I didn't fight in it,I missed it by months,but my brother is a Viet vet.
My father fought in Korea,even though offiicially that was never a war. I know how it affected him.

And maybe in Canada it IS one of the best times. Here in the US I have witnessed the downfall of America from being a once great country where I could carry a pocket knife as a kid, I could walk the streets at night without fear, to one where you have to worry about gangs of kids beating homeless people to death, just to see what it feels like. Where treating women like crap and calling them biatches is ok. And where I could actually go to school or even send my children to school without having to worry about some psycho shooting them.
And I am sorry,but you can't blame events like this on bullying.(I know some will disagree with me),but bullying has been around longer than any of us,and yet it didn't cause social psychopaths to go out and kill.

And now we have to fear the authorities just as much as the psychopaths.

I could go on and on,but am not going to.
Bottom line is that it is sad that the event that you originally posted about happened,but while even just a couple decades ago it would have been an isolated event,nowadays it isnt. Sad,

Daniel,
What is a tv license?

"Your taking a totalatarian look to the US, from the sounds of it almost. It sounds like a chapter from 1984 with the thought police."

BINGO!

And that was my point. A lot of kids these days accept what they see as'well,that's just the way it is" when in fact that is not the way it was and not the way it should be,but is the way it is only because of how they have been raised as and don't know any better.

Just aboput 15 years ago I could have a 09AM flight and get to the airport at 8Am and still have time for a bagel and a cup of coffee, now after 9/11 people are told to get there 3 hours before there flight. Why? So they can get through the TSA BS,which DOES violate my civil rights.

We now have the "Patriot Act" which in reality should be called the "anti-American Act" As ,once again,all it basically does is violate American's constitutional rights.

Honestly, I don't know why Ernie is so concerned about America since it says he lives in Australia, but I am thankful for any world citizen that sees what is going on here and is willing to voice their opinion about it.

Let's try not to venture this thread into "Politics" as...

http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...forbidden.html

This thread will just get whacked...

Caleb, I grew up around guns a portion of every year. I stayed with my aunt and uncle,who was an avid hunter. My aunt used an axe to chop the head off the chicken we were going to eat that evening for dinner.
The gun is an instrument, it does not get up and kill by itself.

But when you have music that advocates killing cops,the "thug" lifestyle, using and selling drugs that do kill,then yes, I do believe that they can have a negative impact.
When you have Sh*t tv,which is 99% of what America broadcasts nowadays,that advocates bad behavior,,again,yes it has a negative impact.

I think you meant "one dollar coins"!

Those who say that the crime rate is going down, are probably cherry picking those stats. If you trace many of them back, you'll see that they come from a source who's jobs are usually incumbent upon having a low crime rate.

But let me cherry pick a few of my own stats... For instance here in Chicago, a town well known for it's "Community Organizing", there has been a huge spike in violent crimes - murders in particular.
Opinion: The Deadliest Global City | NBC Chicago

While the news is concentrating on that one killing in Maryland, there have been 9 killings at that same time here in Chicago.

And as far as wars go - There have been more casualties in the last 27 months in Afghanistan, than in the entire 11 years of that war.



As far as these school shootings go, I think that the parents of these kids with guns should be held just as (if not more) responsible as the kids doing the shootings. Start making these parents pay in a very public way. Make parents not only pay attention to their own kids, but also to any weapons they have in the house. I'm also a hunter, but as soon as I had kids, those guns NEVER leave the safe without me. And my kids don't touch them without me being right there, and they also do not touch them until they fully understand the meaning of life and death.

Both our dollar and two dollar bills have been replaced by coins. I hate them, they are too heavy.

If we could go back to a time that was most perfect (as far as my experience of society) it would be to just after the vietnam war ended. The population had not exploded yet and there was open land all over the place - plenty of room to roam. There were still streams you could drink out of. There were jobs wherever you wanted one and they paid enough to allow you to live in relative comfort - enough food and heat to be comfortable. Food was still mostly real food and families didn't have to work so many hours to survive that they didn't have time for the children they had produced. People were playful and full of curiosity. Metaphysics were being explored. (Anyone remember the time hundreds gathered to see if they could levitate the Pentagon?) Protests happened, but police didn't spray people with chemicals, shoot them with electricity every time someone was irritating to them. We had whacked out styles, and whacked out ideas - and the only repercussion of saying something that someone didn't like was that they would think you were a dickhead. If companies treated workers like crap - employees would simply walk out. If companies treated customers like crap, customers boycotted. If you needed a cop you didn't have to be scared to call one - and you wouldn't have become a victim of a cop if you did call them. There was bigotry - but not the sheer hate there were in former times or the sheer hate that exists now. We felt safe - and felt like we could do anything we wanted to do. Nobody was watching every move we made or listening to every word we spoke. When we had enemies we knew where they were. If you went to a park, you walked past kids playing in the sunshine with no sign of parents - and nobody was concerned about that.

Then the 80's rolled around and things started to change very rapidly to become where we are today with corporations and government melted into one entity, repression and oppression rampant. People living in the streets and eating only because of government dole. And every word you say and every move you make being scrutinized -- and with a threat of martial law and due process a thing of the past. Anyone who is not scared in these times is just not looking around with eyes open.

Ironically Sal, the 80s,even then,was coined "the me decade".

They should ban guns in the USA. Only the police and the military should be allowed to own and carry firearms. Like in any normal country.