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WTF is WRONG with people?!?!? teen killed 5-year old

by KEKilpatrick
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Niagara Falls teen killed 5-year-old he was babysitting

I'm about 2 hours South of Niagara, I don't watch much TV so I may have missed this if my wife hadn't seen it on FB last night.

I say strap him in the chair and run a ton of voltage with very little current until he's dead (and before anybody says that it's the current that kills... yes I know, that's the point, make this dude suffer until his body just gives out).

Sorry, I'm a bit of an extremest when it comes to dealing with people who hurt kids.
  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    WTF is wrong with YOU?
    There were two adults involved. Strap them both in and make society a better place.

    "Sorry, I'm a bit of an extremest when it comes to dealing with people who hurt kids."
    Sorry, I'm a bit of an extremest when it comes to dealing with people who hurt other people.
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    • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      WTF is wrong with YOU?
      There were two adults involved. Strap them both in and make society a better place.

      "Sorry, I'm a bit of an extremest when it comes to dealing with people who hurt kids."
      Sorry, I'm a bit of an extremest when it comes to dealing with people who hurt other people.
      Disclaimer:
      If I'm off base here then I apologize up front, not for what I'm about to say but for misunderstanding your comment (if I did).

      Er... I'm not sure I follow you, the grandmother trusted a family friend with her granddaughter, she didn't pull this little puke off the street and say "here watch this kid while I go get some sleep". This was a kid that the family knew and trusted, much more so it appears than some babysitter hired to watch kids while parents go out to eat.

      The 18 year old did NOT kill this girl, helped hide the body yes, did wrong yes, should pay for what he did YES but I don't put him in the same category as the waste of skin oxygen thief that killed her.

      If it turns out that the grandmother knew that this kid was unstable or that the 18 yo sat by and watched his friend kill this girl (or helped kill her) then yes, they should be dealt with in the same way... until that is proven (and I don't even think either of those are publicly suspected now) then lay the lion's share of the blame on this useless piece of shit and erase him from society before he's the next "oops, we really thought that he had been rehabilitated"

      If you're worried about this kid being strapped into a chair and fried then maybe we should give him over to this little girl's family and let THEM deal with him...
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      • Profile picture of the author KimW
        Originally Posted by KEKilpatrick View Post

        Disclaimer:
        If I'm off base here then I apologize up front, not for what I'm about to say but for misunderstanding your comment (if I did).

        Er... I'm not sure I follow you, the grandmother trusted a family friend with her granddaughter, she didn't pull this little puke off the street and say "here watch this kid while I go get some sleep". This was a kid that the family knew and trusted, much more so it appears than some babysitter hired to watch kids while parents go out to eat.

        The 18 year old did NOT kill this girl, helped hide the body yes, did wrong yes, should pay for what he did YES but I don't put him in the same category as the waste of skin oxygen thief that killed her.

        If it turns out that the grandmother knew that this kid was unstable or that the 18 yo sat by and watched his friend kill this girl (or helped kill her) then yes, they should be dealt with in the same way... until that is proven (and I don't even think either of those are publicly suspected now) then lay the lion's share of the blame on this useless piece of shit and erase him from society before he's the next "oops, we really thought that he had been rehabilitated"

        If you're worried about this kid being strapped into a chair and fried then maybe we should give him over to this little girl's family and let THEM deal with him...
        Maybe we both came off a little wrong.
        In afterthought it may look/sound like I was attacking you and I was more agreeing with you than anything else.
        But as far as the 18 year old, in my opinion he does deserve punishment,maybe not as harsh as the other one,but he shouldn't be free.
        If he had a sense of morality he would have called someone,not helped hide the body.


        And as others have pointed out, there seems to be more questions than answers so far...


        Again, if I came off the wrong way, I apologize.

        (By the way,I hope you noticed I had "thanked" your post,which should given an indication I was mostly in agreement with you).
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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          Read a followup on this story. The teen was apparently a mooch and the child's mother had told the great-grandmother she didn't want him staying there when the little girl was there. Apparently Grandma was a soft touch for this kid and couldn't tell him "no".
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Here's what I don't understand. The story says the Grandmother went to bed at 11pm and asked the sitter to come over. Why the hell didn't she just make the girl go to bed? Something is fishy with that story in my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
      The story from last night (forgive me, I don't know what the news outlet was as my wife read it to me while I was working on something) said that the 16 yo was already at the house and was playing with the child when grandma went to bed... I don't think she actually called him over to watch the child (but I could be wrong).

      What I do think is fishy is that it's 11 at night and grandma went to bed without telling the kid to go home and without putting her granddaughter to bed. But then again I don't know what the exact relationship the family had with the 16 yo. Maybe he was more like family to them than just the kid next door.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        The story is disgusting but some of it makes no sense to me. If it's bedtime you tell the 16 yr old to go home and you put the child to bed and then YOU go to bed. Apparently he'd been left alone at night with this child before - I hate to imagine WHY a 16 yr old boy would be volunteering to "take care of" a 5 yr old girl.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          We've been have a rash of incidents around here where adults (and I use that word loosely) have been injuring or killing infants and toddlers.
          Just yesterday a scumbag was convicted of killing an infant by throwing the baby into the air and walking away. He showed no remorse at his trial and basically said, "yeah I did it, so what?".
          Another guy just turned his own daughter into the police for child endangerment. He went to pick his grandson up and the kid (only a few months old) had a broken arm and bruises.
          A reporter interviewing him had the gall to ask how he could turn his daughter in.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I think we need to start putting more poison in people's food and water and feed them even more psychotrophic drugs - it seems to be doing so well for us.
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        Lol Ernie!

        Ernie's message was brought to you courtesy of the Blind Sheeple of America.

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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Ernie's such an expert on America - of course, he doesn't live here or vote here and the FDA doesn't worry about protecting him....


        If you want to put this story in a societal context - you could look at the mother of this child.

        She has to work - no choice. Works the job and shift she can get. She has to find someone to care for the child and can't afford the cost of overnight "day care".

        She has a kindly grandmother (great-grandmother for the 5 yr old) willing to take care of the little girl. She is concerned about this 16 yr old but thinks she has solved the problem by asking that he not be allowed to stay when the child is there.

        There is no father in the picture - the young mother's Mother is not mentioned. How many young woman are doing the best they can to work and provide for a child while also trying to find a place for the child to stay safely while the mother works?

        This isn't a story about a bad parent - the Mother did nothing wrong. This is a story about a bad teen who took advantage of an old woman and harmed a child. Put the blame where it belongs.
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    Seems like more and more people take less and less responsibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author jakebvs85
    Being responsible for one's action...is really hard to commit nowadays for those people who are acting like this. What makes me mad and sad is that those irresponsible people harm other people, why don't they just kill themselves..>.<
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yeah, if your baby or young girl or boy is spitting the dummy, some people fix it permanently!

      Reminds me of the father in AU that drove over the West Gate Bridge, (very tall suspension bridge) and threw his daughter over the side after she was screaming about something.

      When he got convicted for life, and tried to plead temporary insanity, it leaked out that he did this to p*** off his ex-wife, (get her back for coughing up too much money).

      Yeah, when countries economics go downhill, and prices, etc go up, more parents go up against the wall, and unfortunately their children get in the middle.


      Unfortunately this probably won't end, you can't stop parents from having children, that show a tendency to snap, when they are in a financial bind.

      Maybe all parents and their kids over the age of 15 should have a guided tour through the prisons. Might make them think twice before, killing off their children.

      Or bolt them to an electric chair, with a starving rat in a cage tied to their faces, with the victims finger on the button, (letting the rat loose button) whichever comes first!!!

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      • Profile picture of the author KEKilpatrick
        Originally Posted by KimW View Post

        Maybe we both came off a little wrong.
        In afterthought it may look/sound like I was attacking you and I was more agreeing with you than anything else.
        But as far as the 18 year old, in my opinion he does deserve punishment,maybe not as harsh as the other one,but he shouldn't be free.
        If he had a sense of morality he would have called someone,not helped hide the body.


        And as others have pointed out, there seems to be more questions than answers so far...


        Again, if I came off the wrong way, I apologize.

        (By the way,I hope you noticed I had "thanked" your post,which should given an indication I was mostly in agreement with you).
        Initally Kim I did think that maybe I had you worked up, I did miss the thanks but after I re-read your post (after of course I comment) I realized that you and I were on the same page. It's all good brother.


        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Read a followup on this story. The teen was apparently a mooch and the child's mother had told the great-grandmother she didn't want him staying there when the little girl was there. Apparently Grandma was a soft touch for this kid and couldn't tell him "no".
        We had a late night last night between the sports team thing at the high school and filling out paperwork for the new school year. Haven't caught any news so I'll be looking around for more on this story today. Thanks for the update Kay, glad you made it through the storm safe and sound!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kay - Ernie was just playing with me - not a serious post. Sometimes it's hard to tell what is really meant when people don't use the SMILIES:rolleyes: when being sarcastic.
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