Messed Up Joint...Can't Take Pain Killers...Help

15 years ago

Steven, it is mainly "aspirin family" group of pain killers that are responsible for stomach problems. There are now lots of other pain killers that have minimal side effects on the stomach.

I would advise you to wait until you have seen your orthopedic doctor before starting anything else.

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Kay King

15 years ago

Steven -

I've had great pain relief from Icy Hot patches. Not sure how well it would work on a pinkie but it sure helps me with neck pain and pain from old knee and angle injuries when they flare up.

Cutting off a piece and wrapping it on the finger might help a lot.

There's nothing like pain in a small area like a finger, elbow or toe to drive you up the wall.

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Dave Patterson

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

Steven -

I've had great pain relief from Icy Hot patches. Not sure how well it would work on a pinkie but it sure helps me with neck pain and pain from old knee and angle injuries when they flare up.

Cutting off a piece and wrapping it on the finger might help a lot.

There's nothing like pain in a small area like a finger, elbow or toe to drive you up the wall.

kay

I know what you mean.

I used to wear those patches on my butt constantly while I was still with my ex.

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KimW 15 years ago

Originally Posted by Dave Patterson

I know what you mean.

I used to wear those patches on my butt constantly while I was still with my ex.

Damn Dave, you beat me to it.
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- Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago
  
  Well, I just got back from the Orthopedist.
  
  Guess what?
  
  I broke it.
  
  They have me in a splint now and said it will be 6 to 8 weeks.
  
  Try typing with a splint on your pinky.
  
  Oh joy!
  
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raydp

15 years ago

Kay's right, also, Paracetamol don't upset the stomach. The other thing to try is an Ibuprofen gel applied to the finger, again, that is "Tummy safe"

I hope it clears up soon!

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Star69

15 years ago

Can you actually cut one of those Icy Hot patches without the active ingredients spilling out?

Would it not be better to pack it in ice for awhile?

And by the way, Steven, exactly what have you been doing to strain your PINKY finger?!

'Smoke' has been known to ease the pain, at least that's been my personal experience...

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HeySal

15 years ago

glucosamine - yes, but take it with manganese and Vit C or it won't do any good
L-glutamine and a gelatin capsule will rebuilt connective tissues and collagen.
Ginger capsule will inhibit swelling - also chondroitin. -- you can get capsules of this with glucosamine and manganese and C all together, plus a few other helps.
And calcium - liquid so it will absorb (make sure you are getting proper magnesium and potassium so that will metabolise - you are already taking Vit C to help that too.)

A doctor will spit at that formula, LOL - I had 10 stitches in my hand and the doc told me it would take 2 weeks to heal and I told him no way. 4 days later I wanted the stitches out because I was healed and the stitches pulled and he argued with me, finally said he'd take a look. He removed the stitches. Totally baffled.

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Peter Soos

15 years ago

Have to agree with Sal. I usually also add 1000mg of MSM twice a day...shortens the recovery time for me... Take care,
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raydp

15 years ago

Huh? I've never managed to involve a pinky in typing - I mistype enough using 8 fingers!

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Nicola Lane

15 years ago

Get yourself some comfrey tea (tastes awful!) but it is good for healing bones.

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magni

15 years ago

You can always use medical marijuana... But I think it is too much...

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myob 15 years ago

You broke your pinky from typing? Wow, Steve, you really should give it a rest.
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- Steven Wagenheim 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by myob
  
  You broke your pinky from typing? Wow, Steve, you really should give it a rest.
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
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  Thomas 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
  Er... em... ah...
  
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  Dave Patterson 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
  Sheesh....what did she do? Close the trunk lid before you got your hand out after placing the last bag of groceries inside?
  
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  myob 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
  Get her a vibrator, and save your other fingers.
  
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  gareth 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
  :-0 my goodness !!!
  
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  jimmymc 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim
  
  Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
  
  Wow...a snapper...I've heard of those.
  
  The "problem" then is part of the solution...just soak it in cider.
  
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Thomas Wilkinson

15 years ago

For my phantom pain I take powered aspirin and hold it in my mouth with a
little of anything I have to drink until its mostly dissolved. It absorbs through
my tongue very fast and doesn't upset my stomach.

Tom

OK, have to break the news even at the risk of grossing some of you out.
Tomorrow after years of faithful service, "Bubba", my artificial leg will retire
and be replaced by "Shamus O'Bubba" the new leg that my prosthetist
started to build on St Patrick's day. I know this might sound odd but I'm so
excited I can't sleep.

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Kay King 15 years ago

Can you actually cut one of those Icy Hot patches without the active ingredients spilling out?

What ingredients? It's not stuffed with anything. You may be thinking of the thermal wrap thingies rather than the patches. The patches are just coated with a sticky stuff that includes the menthol or whatever the good stuff is. Don't think it'll work over a splint though....

Steven - Now that your widdle pinkie () is splinted, the pain will likely be much better soon. Maybe now you'll have typos like the rest of us!

Thomas - Of course you're excited. Will Shamus O'Bubba be difficult to adjust to? What grosses me out is holding dissolved aspirin in your mouth (ick - tastes bad).

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- GeorgettaSterling 15 years ago
  
  Steven,
  
  sorry to hear about your broken pinky.
  
  My mom gradually lost her ability to tolerate aspirin too, and the remedy we found for her was white willow bark tea. Go to a well-stocked health store or herbalist - they should have white willow bark (ideally organic or at least wild-crafted). You just steep it a while in hot water. This bark was the inspiration for Bayer to develop aspirin, as the complex salicylates are potent pain killers and anti-inflammatories.
  
  It ISN'T the "same" as aspirin. The ASA in aspirin is a synthetic drug developed by Bayer chemists so that Bayer could get a patent. Willow bark doesn't contain ASA. If you read up on the history, you realize how much trouble they went to in order to develop something that was similar enough to the natural stuff in willow bark to work, without being lethal (many of their earlier iterations were ridiculously dangerous).
  
  Be aware of two things: dosage (don't overdo the tea - you could OD and get the shakes) and time. Unlike the pills, the tea's effect is quite slow and gradual, so take a little early and expect to wait a couple hours for complete relief (it is so gradual you might not notice the relief until you suddenly say "hey, my finger doesn't hurt!"). Talk to the herbalist about ensuring your dose.
  
  Works really well for my mom, with no stomach upset. Supposedly easier on her liver too.
  
  BTW - I will take the contrarian view on some of the other painkillers - while ibuprofen and acetaminophen are easier on your tummy, they are harder on your liver and kidneys than aspirin is. They actually have a LOT of side-effects.
  
  Good luck!
  
  Best Regards, Georgetta
  
  PS - Thomas - congrats on your new leg! Half the weight is a BIG deal.
  
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gareth

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Thomas Wilkinson

For my phantom pain I take powered aspirin and hold it in my mouth with a
little of anything I have to drink until its mostly dissolved. It absorbs through
my tongue very fast and doesn't upset my stomach.

Tom

OK, have to break the news even at the risk of grossing some of you out.
Tomorrow after years of faithful service, "Bubba", my artificial leg will retire
and be replaced by "Shamus O'Bubba" the new leg that my prosthetist
started to build on St Patrick's day. I know this might sound odd but I'm so
excited I can't sleep.

Is It Bionic ???

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Thomas Wilkinson

15 years ago

Yes, it tastes bad but it feels sooooo good when the lightening bolts
quit. I usually crush up potassium tablets at the same time. Seems to
help.

I think the new leg will adjust quickly. Technology advances are so
gigantic in prosthetic limbs. (There are always large advances in a time
of war.) The new one weighs in at about half of the old one and the foot
is very springy. I'll have to learn to walk without the gallop effect. I wasn't
gonna say anything here but I'll keep the OT informed about how its going.

Tom

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derekwong28

15 years ago

Tom, all the best with your new leg!

Steven, if the fracture is not healed properly, you will be liable to suffer from recurrent arthritis later on. You should contemplage making changes to your current working lifestyle.

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acreativetouch

15 years ago

Steve,

to help with pain I use:
1) cannabis oil ( 3 drops )
2) comfry oil ( 10 drops )
3) rosemary oil ( 3 drops )
4) lavender oil ( 3drops )
5) lobelia oil ( 2 drops )
6) vitamin E ( 1500 mcu or 3 -- 500 mcu capsules )
7) apricot kernel oil ( 1 tsp )
Mix with coconut oil ( 1 tsp ) or olive oil as a carrier. Refrigerate until used up. Rub on area in pain. Works wonders!

Dorothy

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HeySal

15 years ago

Steve -- the formula I gave you above will help you heal faster.

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gareth

15 years ago

Man last time I was messed up on joints I couldnt take enough pain killers.

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John M Kane

15 years ago

WAY! too much information

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Gardenbella

15 years ago

One thing you might like to try is a practice called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique - where emotional relief brings physical health). This technique has helped many people get relief from pain and you don't have to take any drugs. You can google the site. The best one is Gary Craig's at emofree.com. Good luck and hope your finger heals quickly.

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HeySal

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Gardenbella

One thing you might like to try is a practice called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique - where emotional relief brings physical health). This technique has helped many people get relief from pain and you don't have to take any drugs. You can google the site. The best one is Gary Craig's at emofree.com. Good luck and hope your finger heals quickly.

Sounds to me like emotional relief is what got him hurt in the first place. I bet he grins every time he looks at it.

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Mike Wright

15 years ago

Just throw some oak chips on the BBQ .... and hold your
finger over the coals (after lighting them yada yada).
Smoking a joint usually provides pain relief as many arthritis
sufferers will confirm!

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ThomM

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Wright

Just throw some oak chips on the BBQ .... and hold your
finger over the coals (after lighting them yada yada).
Smoking a joint usually provides pain relief as many arthritis
sufferers will confirm!

That's always worked for me.
What's the coal and oak chips for though?

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15 years ago

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myob 15 years ago

I think what jimmy said is the most holeistic solution; soak the pinky pecker in cider until she snaps again.
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- Dave Patterson 15 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by myob
  
  I think what jimmy said is the most holeistic solution; soak the pinky pecker in cider until she snaps again.
  
  Or do like Popeye and dip it in Olive Oyl....
  
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Christie Love

15 years ago

Hey Steven,

I'm so happy you didn't go into any specifics on how you actually broke your finger. (lol)

But, if you don't want to take pills,then I would suggest doing a couple of rounds of EFT to eliminate the pain. You can check out a YouTube video for a refresher. Hope you feel better and next time, wear some protective gear. :-)

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derekwong28

15 years ago

And ask your doctor to show you how to do a proper PR examination (one finger) and a PV examination (two fingers)!

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C.B. Stewart

15 years ago

I know I'm a little late here, and a little TOO MUCH information has been provided, but...

Fish oil is the best way to reduce inflammation. Aim for 15 or more grams a day, for real. You will notice a difference after less than a week.

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