Messed Up Joint...Can't Take Pain Killers...Help

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Okay, here's the deal.

The joint in my pinky finger is all messed up. I'm going to the orthopedist
today to get it looked at but I already know what it is. It's damaged from
physical activity.

I can't take pain killers because of stomach problems.

Is there anything I can treat this with that you know of that's natural, non
internally taken (Glucosomine makes me sick) that will reduce the inflammation?

FYI...It doesn't really bother me all that much so I don't want to do anything
drastic that will cause other problems. It just isn't worth it for such a
minor problem.

Anyway, any advice is appreciated.

I'm sure my doc'll have a few things up his sleeve as well.
  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Steven, it is mainly "aspirin family" group of pain killers that are responsible for stomach problems. There are now lots of other pain killers that have minimal side effects on the stomach.

    I would advise you to wait until you have seen your orthopedic doctor before starting anything else.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Steven -

      I've had great pain relief from Icy Hot patches. Not sure how well it would work on a pinkie but it sure helps me with neck pain and pain from old knee and angle injuries when they flare up.

      Cutting off a piece and wrapping it on the finger might help a lot.

      There's nothing like pain in a small area like a finger, elbow or toe to drive you up the wall.

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Steven -

        I've had great pain relief from Icy Hot patches. Not sure how well it would work on a pinkie but it sure helps me with neck pain and pain from old knee and angle injuries when they flare up.

        Cutting off a piece and wrapping it on the finger might help a lot.

        There's nothing like pain in a small area like a finger, elbow or toe to drive you up the wall.

        kay
        I know what you mean.

        I used to wear those patches on my butt constantly while I was still with my ex.
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        • Profile picture of the author KimW
          Originally Posted by Dave Patterson View Post

          I know what you mean.

          I used to wear those patches on my butt constantly while I was still with my ex.
          Damn Dave, you beat me to it.
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          • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
            Well, I just got back from the Orthopedist.

            Guess what?

            I broke it.

            They have me in a splint now and said it will be 6 to 8 weeks.

            Try typing with a splint on your pinky.

            Oh joy!
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    Kay's right, also, Paracetamol don't upset the stomach. The other thing to try is an Ibuprofen gel applied to the finger, again, that is "Tummy safe"

    I hope it clears up soon!

    Ray
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  • Profile picture of the author Star69
    Can you actually cut one of those Icy Hot patches without the active ingredients spilling out?

    Would it not be better to pack it in ice for awhile?

    And by the way, Steven, exactly what have you been doing to strain your PINKY finger?!

    'Smoke' has been known to ease the pain, at least that's been my personal experience...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    glucosamine - yes, but take it with manganese and Vit C or it won't do any good
    L-glutamine and a gelatin capsule will rebuilt connective tissues and collagen.
    Ginger capsule will inhibit swelling - also chondroitin. -- you can get capsules of this with glucosamine and manganese and C all together, plus a few other helps.
    And calcium - liquid so it will absorb (make sure you are getting proper magnesium and potassium so that will metabolise - you are already taking Vit C to help that too.)

    A doctor will spit at that formula, LOL - I had 10 stitches in my hand and the doc told me it would take 2 weeks to heal and I told him no way. 4 days later I wanted the stitches out because I was healed and the stitches pulled and he argued with me, finally said he'd take a look. He removed the stitches. Totally baffled.
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  • Profile picture of the author Peter Soos
    Have to agree with Sal. I usually also add 1000mg of MSM twice a day...shortens the recovery time for me... Take care,
    Peter Soos
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  • Profile picture of the author raydp
    Huh? I've never managed to involve a pinky in typing - I mistype enough using 8 fingers!

    Ray
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  • Profile picture of the author Nicola Lane
    Get yourself some comfrey tea (tastes awful!) but it is good for healing bones.
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  • Profile picture of the author magni
    You can always use medical marijuana... But I think it is too much...
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      You broke your pinky from typing? Wow, Steve, you really should give it a rest.
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        You broke your pinky from typing? Wow, Steve, you really should give it a rest.
        Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
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        • Profile picture of the author Thomas
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
          Er... em... ah...
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        • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
          Sheesh....what did she do? Close the trunk lid before you got your hand out after placing the last bag of groceries inside?
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
          Get her a vibrator, and save your other fingers.
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        • Profile picture of the author gareth
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
          :-0 my goodness !!!
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        • Profile picture of the author jimmymc
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          Actually, I broke my finger by engaging in marital activities with my wife.
          Wow...a snapper...I've heard of those.

          The "problem" then is part of the solution...just soak it in cider.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    For my phantom pain I take powered aspirin and hold it in my mouth with a
    little of anything I have to drink until its mostly dissolved. It absorbs through
    my tongue very fast and doesn't upset my stomach.

    Tom

    OK, have to break the news even at the risk of grossing some of you out.
    Tomorrow after years of faithful service, "Bubba", my artificial leg will retire
    and be replaced by "Shamus O'Bubba" the new leg that my prosthetist
    started to build on St Patrick's day. I know this might sound odd but I'm so
    excited I can't sleep.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Can you actually cut one of those Icy Hot patches without the active ingredients spilling out?
      What ingredients? It's not stuffed with anything. You may be thinking of the thermal wrap thingies rather than the patches. The patches are just coated with a sticky stuff that includes the menthol or whatever the good stuff is. Don't think it'll work over a splint though....


      Steven - Now that your widdle pinkie () is splinted, the pain will likely be much better soon. Maybe now you'll have typos like the rest of us!

      Thomas - Of course you're excited. Will Shamus O'Bubba be difficult to adjust to? What grosses me out is holding dissolved aspirin in your mouth (ick - tastes bad).

      kay
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      • Profile picture of the author GeorgettaSterling
        Steven,

        sorry to hear about your broken pinky.

        My mom gradually lost her ability to tolerate aspirin too, and the remedy we found for her was white willow bark tea. Go to a well-stocked health store or herbalist - they should have white willow bark (ideally organic or at least wild-crafted). You just steep it a while in hot water. This bark was the inspiration for Bayer to develop aspirin, as the complex salicylates are potent pain killers and anti-inflammatories.

        It ISN'T the "same" as aspirin. The ASA in aspirin is a synthetic drug developed by Bayer chemists so that Bayer could get a patent. Willow bark doesn't contain ASA. If you read up on the history, you realize how much trouble they went to in order to develop something that was similar enough to the natural stuff in willow bark to work, without being lethal (many of their earlier iterations were ridiculously dangerous).

        Be aware of two things: dosage (don't overdo the tea - you could OD and get the shakes) and time. Unlike the pills, the tea's effect is quite slow and gradual, so take a little early and expect to wait a couple hours for complete relief (it is so gradual you might not notice the relief until you suddenly say "hey, my finger doesn't hurt!"). Talk to the herbalist about ensuring your dose.

        Works really well for my mom, with no stomach upset. Supposedly easier on her liver too.

        BTW - I will take the contrarian view on some of the other painkillers - while ibuprofen and acetaminophen are easier on your tummy, they are harder on your liver and kidneys than aspirin is. They actually have a LOT of side-effects.

        Good luck!

        Best Regards, Georgetta

        PS - Thomas - congrats on your new leg! Half the weight is a BIG deal.
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    • Profile picture of the author gareth
      Originally Posted by Thomas Wilkinson View Post

      For my phantom pain I take powered aspirin and hold it in my mouth with a
      little of anything I have to drink until its mostly dissolved. It absorbs through
      my tongue very fast and doesn't upset my stomach.

      Tom

      OK, have to break the news even at the risk of grossing some of you out.
      Tomorrow after years of faithful service, "Bubba", my artificial leg will retire
      and be replaced by "Shamus O'Bubba" the new leg that my prosthetist
      started to build on St Patrick's day. I know this might sound odd but I'm so
      excited I can't sleep.
      Is It Bionic ???
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  • Profile picture of the author Thomas Wilkinson
    Yes, it tastes bad but it feels sooooo good when the lightening bolts
    quit. I usually crush up potassium tablets at the same time. Seems to
    help.

    I think the new leg will adjust quickly. Technology advances are so
    gigantic in prosthetic limbs. (There are always large advances in a time
    of war.) The new one weighs in at about half of the old one and the foot
    is very springy. I'll have to learn to walk without the gallop effect. I wasn't
    gonna say anything here but I'll keep the OT informed about how its going.

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Tom, all the best with your new leg!

    Steven, if the fracture is not healed properly, you will be liable to suffer from recurrent arthritis later on. You should contemplage making changes to your current working lifestyle.
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  • Profile picture of the author acreativetouch
    Steve,

    to help with pain I use:
    1) cannabis oil ( 3 drops )
    2) comfry oil ( 10 drops )
    3) rosemary oil ( 3 drops )
    4) lavender oil ( 3drops )
    5) lobelia oil ( 2 drops )
    6) vitamin E ( 1500 mcu or 3 -- 500 mcu capsules )
    7) apricot kernel oil ( 1 tsp )
    Mix with coconut oil ( 1 tsp ) or olive oil as a carrier. Refrigerate until used up. Rub on area in pain. Works wonders!

    Dorothy
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Steve -- the formula I gave you above will help you heal faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author gareth
    Man last time I was messed up on joints I couldnt take enough pain killers.
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  • Profile picture of the author John M Kane
    WAY! too much information
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  • Profile picture of the author Gardenbella
    One thing you might like to try is a practice called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique - where emotional relief brings physical health). This technique has helped many people get relief from pain and you don't have to take any drugs. You can google the site. The best one is Gary Craig's at emofree.com. Good luck and hope your finger heals quickly.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Gardenbella View Post

      One thing you might like to try is a practice called EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique - where emotional relief brings physical health). This technique has helped many people get relief from pain and you don't have to take any drugs. You can google the site. The best one is Gary Craig's at emofree.com. Good luck and hope your finger heals quickly.

      Sounds to me like emotional relief is what got him hurt in the first place. I bet he grins every time he looks at it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Wright
        Just throw some oak chips on the BBQ .... and hold your
        finger over the coals (after lighting them yada yada).
        Smoking a joint usually provides pain relief as many arthritis
        sufferers will confirm!
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by Mike Wright View Post

          Just throw some oak chips on the BBQ .... and hold your
          finger over the coals (after lighting them yada yada).
          Smoking a joint usually provides pain relief as many arthritis
          sufferers will confirm!
          That's always worked for me.
          What's the coal and oak chips for though?
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      I think what jimmy said is the most holeistic solution; soak the pinky pecker in cider until she snaps again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
        Originally Posted by myob View Post

        I think what jimmy said is the most holeistic solution; soak the pinky pecker in cider until she snaps again.
        Or do like Popeye and dip it in Olive Oyl....
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  • Profile picture of the author Christie Love
    Hey Steven,

    I'm so happy you didn't go into any specifics on how you actually broke your finger. (lol)

    But, if you don't want to take pills,then I would suggest doing a couple of rounds of EFT to eliminate the pain. You can check out a YouTube video for a refresher. Hope you feel better and next time, wear some protective gear. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    And ask your doctor to show you how to do a proper PR examination (one finger) and a PV examination (two fingers)!
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  • Profile picture of the author C.B. Stewart
    I know I'm a little late here, and a little TOO MUCH information has been provided, but...

    Fish oil is the best way to reduce inflammation. Aim for 15 or more grams a day, for real. You will notice a difference after less than a week.
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