Modern Wheat "Poison"

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Crap.

I love pasta, breads,pretzels,cereal.....(sigh)

Prepare to be depressed if you do to.....

Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says
  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Meh

    Pours second bowl of Lucky Charms
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

      Meh

      Pours second bowl of Lucky Charms
      sure,sure. 23 and bulletproof,no?

      And btw, until you can grow a proper beard, shave!
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        sure,sure. 23 and bulletproof,no?
        And probably dead by 30

        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        And btw, until you can grow a proper beard, shave!
        NO. It will be glorious. Someday...
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          Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

          And probably dead by 30
          Yeah, that's what I thought, too. Now I'm 37 with the body (and pains to go with it) of a guy who thought he'd be dead seven years ago.

          Put the Lucky Charms back in the bowl and Fiber Up! Seriously. Spit out the mouthful of sugary death currently jammed down your gullet, wipe the sugar milk glaze off your (sorta) bearded chin and go eat a cardboard box or something.

          I say this for your own good.

          Oh, and call your grandmother. She misses you.
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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            Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

            Put the Luck Charms back in the bowl and Fiber Up!
            Does Raisin Bran have a lot of wheat? That's my "healthy" alternative (btw, next to Rice Chex and plain Cheerios I think Raisin Bran is the best non-sugary cereal).
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

              Does Raisin Bran have a lot of wheat? That's my "healthy" alternative (btw, next to Rice Chex and plain Cheerios I think Raisin Bran is the best non-sugary cereal).

              Funny you ask, Joe. I'm actually about to roll out a new breakfast cereal that will blow the lid (so to speak) off the healthy cereal industry.

              The cereal is called !Fiber Bombs! Not only do you get 10,000% of your daily recommended fiber, but you're being environmentally friendly to boot! You see, !Fiber Bombs! are made from the sweepings at lumber mills all across America. We take the sweepings and hardfire them into delicious pellets. No more wood pulp waste in our landfills and your colon will be so clean it'll whistle! (Actually, this is an actual side-effect. We're working on it...)

              I'll send you a complimentary box. A word of caution, however: You'll want to ease into them, because they don't ease out.
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              • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                (Actually, this is an actual side-effect. We're working on it...).
                I lost it right here. I hoard my thanks for posts like this, bravo good sir!
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              • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Funny you ask, Joe. I'm actually about to roll out a new breakfast cereal that will blow the lid (so to speak) off the healthy cereal industry.

                The cereal is called !Fiber Bombs! Not only do you get 10,000% of your daily recommended fiber, but you're being environmentally friendly to boot! You see, !Fiber Bombs! are made from the sweepings at lumber mills all across America. We take the sweepings and hardfire them into delicious pellets. No more wood pulp waste in our landfills and your colon will be so clean it'll whistle! (Actually, this is an actual side-effect. We're working on it...)

                I'll send you a complimentary box. A word of caution, however: You'll want to ease into them, because they don't ease out.
                I'd be afraid that if my colon was "whistling" sphincter splinters would be an unwanted byproduct.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

                  I'd be afraid that if my colon was "whistling" sphincter splinters would be an unwanted byproduct.
                  Oh, but our (never going to get) patented Glycerol-Asian longhorned beetle fungi Candy Shell (-- pay attention to Candy Shell, not Asian longhorned beetle fungi --) breaks down the delicious !Fiber Bombs! pellets in your stomach, creating a pleasant-feeling, stomach-filling wood pulp goo in your tummy!

                  No splinters, you'll feel fuller longer, and the random longhorned beetle parts that get through our extraction process add much-needed protein!

                  With !Fiber Bombs!, we've got you covered coming and going!



                  (My apologies to Big Rob.)
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                  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
                    Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                    Oh, but our (never going to get) patented Glycerol-Asian longhorned beetle fungi Candy Shell (-- pay attention to Candy Shell, not Asian longhorned beetle fungi --) breaks down the delicious !Fiber Bobmbs! pellets in your stomach, creating a pleasant-feeling, stomach-filling wood pulp goo in your tummy!

                    No splinters, you'll fee fuller longer, and the random longhorned beetle parts that get through our extraction process add much-needed protein!

                    With !Fiber Bombs!, we've got you covered coming and going!



                    (My apologies to Big Rob.)
                    Have you considered doing stand up comedy, or at least writing it? Love the sig blurb. Is it original? I seem to remember something similar from days gone by.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

                      Have you considered doing stand up comedy, or at least writing it? Love the sig blurb. Is it original? I seem to remember something similar from days gone by.
                      The way he worded it reminded me of this commercial lol:

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                    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

                      Have you considered doing stand up comedy, or at least writing it? Love the sig blurb. Is it original? I seem to remember something similar from days gone by.
                      The sig is not original and I've poked around trying to find out who originated it to no avail.

                      Your comment about standup comedy is going to make me blush.
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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                Funny you ask, Joe. I'm actually about to roll out a new breakfast cereal that will blow the lid (so to speak) off the healthy cereal industry.

                The cereal is called !Fiber Bombs! Not only do you get 10,000% of your daily recommended fiber, but you're being environmentally friendly to boot! You see, !Fiber Bombs! are made from the sweepings at lumber mills all across America. We take the sweepings and hardfire them into delicious pellets. No more wood pulp waste in our landfills and your colon will be so clean it'll whistle! (Actually, this is an actual side-effect. We're working on it...)

                I'll send you a complimentary box. A word of caution, however: You'll want to ease into them, because they don't ease out.
                Already been done. Read the ingredients of the store-bought bread you eat lately?

                Toss out ALL of your cereal. Hasn't anyone ever heard of buckwheat? You want GOOD chowing, try making some buckwheat pancakes with real organic butter and real maple syrup. Now that's good eatin'. You can use any non-gluten flour you wanna use to stick the buckwheat together. Buckwheat isn't wheat.
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              Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

              Does Raisin Bran have a lot of wheat? That's my "healthy" alternative (btw, next to Rice Chex and plain Cheerios I think Raisin Bran is the best non-sugary cereal).
              Win a triathlon and prove them wrong! You can do it. McDonald's is the official food of the Olympics.
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              • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                Win a triathlon and prove them wrong! You can do it. McDonald's is the official food of the Olympics.
                For what it's worth: I lost weight on a largely McDonald's diet this summer.
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                • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
                  Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                  For what it's worth: I lost weight on a largely McDonald's diet this summer.
                  The dollar menu yogurt parfait for dinner every day?

                  Me too!! :p

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                  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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                    Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

                    The dollar menu yogurt parfait for dinner every day?

                    Me too!! :p

                    Terra
                    Nah, when I eat there it's either a #3 or 3 Mcdoubles, 2 McChicken. I worked at a McDonalds in High School, I know what those parfaits are made of .
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                      Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                      Nah, when I eat there it's either a #3 or 3 Mcdoubles, 2 McChicken. I worked at a McDonalds in High School, I know what those parfaits are made of .
                      I was just kidding, I don't eat at McDonalds period.

                      But now that you mention it, what are they made of.

                      Edit: When the hubby and son want fast food for dinner, I only let them get Tubby's.

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                  Originally Posted by Joseph Robinson View Post

                  For what it's worth: I lost weight on a largely McDonald's diet this summer.
                  Did you lose weight on this diet, or did Tom Naughton? (hulu.com/watch/196879)


                  To be fair, wheat is terrible for you thanks to Norman Bourlaugh. I'm not sure if I hate him though... he did save at least one million lives by genetically modifying wheat to be quicker and easier to harvest.

                  I eat a 65% fat, 30% protein, 5% carbohydrate diet and I don't exercise. Ever.
                  I've lost 30lbs with no physical effort.

                  The only carby thing I miss is tenpura. When I cheat and eat high-carb I feel tired for the day. When I cheat and eat carbs with gluten I feel sick for days, I get stomach cramps, I get a zit or two (this part is the worst!) and my sinuses swell.
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    Gee, a guy with a new book writes a related fear-based article... :rolleyes:
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  • "What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger"

    Either Nietzsche, or Conan the Barbarian said that...
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      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      "What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger"

      Either Nietzsche, or Conan the Barbarian said that...
      As far as I know, Conan the Barbarian can't be dead only, being alive only in literature. Otherwise the world is populated by fictional beings created by Joseph Conrad, HeySal, William Shakespeare etc. That said, sometimes I feel like a bad editing job, so I don't know for sure.
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    Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

    Crap.

    I love pasta, breads,pretzels,cereal.....(sigh)

    Prepare to be depressed if you do to.....

    Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says
    People from southern China, where rice is the staple, have long noticed that folks who return from stays in the north are often fatter than before they left the south. They say it is because they were eating wheat-based foods since wheat is the staple in northern China.
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  • Well, now you know why they say White Bread is better for you!
    (and thanks to that 'Wonderbread' lobby)
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    Where's the science? I'm not one to trust somebody's opinion simply because he's a doctor. It sounds like a bunch of not yet substantiated anecdote and opinion which the tin-foil hat wearing knee-jerk-anti-GMO crowd here will swallow without further examination.

    Here's a link to an article which takes a critical look at the author's claims. No Gluten, No Problem: Wheat Belly, Busted.
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    Mojojuju -- from what I understand of the modified wheat we currently eat is that the engineering is more of the sort of the old hybrid system, not Monsatans new fangled poison crops. Some people get terrible reactions to the new gluten.

    There is hope though -- Monsanto is trying to force round-up ready wheat into the market. Whoopie. IF they succeed at that, our wheat exports are screwed, and so is having anything with wheat in it that is safe for consumption.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

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      There is hope though -- Monsanto is trying to force round-up ready wheat into the market. <snip>
      What does this mean?
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        What does this mean?

        "There's hope - was sarcasm. I meant - look out they are going to make it worse. You won't see me eating corn or anything with corn in it unless I expressly know it's organic corn. Studies around the world show what it is doing in research. Actually = think about it. It's engineered with a poison that explodes the gut of the bug that eats it. Feel it's safe for you?

        Well, if Monsatan gets its way, that's going to be our wheat, too. Other countries are banning that corn and Monsanto completely out of their countries. So who's gonna buy that wheat? Wheat is a major US export. We're screwed health and finances if they allow frankenwheat to hit the market.
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        • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          You won't see me eating corn or anything with corn in it unless I expressly know it's organic corn. Studies around the world show what it is doing in research. Actually = think about it. It's engineered with a poison that explodes the gut of the bug that eats it. Feel it's safe for you?
          Hold on a minute. Do you have a link to any research supporting this? Also, the fact that something is bad for bugs doesn't mean it's bad for humans.
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            Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

            Hold on a minute. Do you have a link to any research supporting this? Also, the fact that something is bad for bugs doesn't mean it's bad for humans.
            Have you seriously researched criticism against Monsanto and debunked it? Simple Google searches for Monsanto show that there is no dearth of criticism for their practices. Are the critics wrong?
            Monsanto's Harvest of Fear | Vanity Fair
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            • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
              Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

              Have you seriously researched criticism against Monsanto and debunked it? Simple Google searches for Monsanto show that there is no dearth of criticism for their practices. Are the critics wrong?
              Monsanto's Harvest of Fear | Vanity Fair
              I'm not challenging the fact that there are many Monsanto critics and articles criticizing Monsanto. I agree that there is a lot of criticism of Monsanto.

              I was simply responding to Sal's comment and asking if she could link to any scientific research (which should not to be confused with articles in pop culture magazines) regarding the safety of Monsanto products.

              edit: I see a lot of opinion and speculation so far. I'm more interested in what research you guys are basing your opinions on. Maybe Thom will come through.
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              • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

                I'm not challenging the fact that there are many Monsanto critics and articles criticizing Monsanto. I agree that there is a lot of criticism of Monsanto.

                I was simply responding to Sal's comment and asking if she could link to any scientific research (which should not to be confused with articles in pop culture magazines) regarding the safety of Monsanto products.
                Monstanto is highly litigious. Monsanto would likely sue any influential pop culture that published anything critical of Monsanto that could not be substantiated.
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                • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
                  Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

                  Monstanto is highly litigious. Monsanto would likely sue any influential pop culture that published anything critical of Monsanto that could not be substantiated.
                  And what? Does this mean Monsanto products cause stomach explosion in the elderly? What conclusions are you drawing based on your assumptions?
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                  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
                    Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

                    And what? Does this mean Monsanto products cause stomach explosion in the elderly? What conclusions are you drawing based on your assumptions?
                    I'm not making assumptions, merely reflecting the overwhelming picture that I see. Did you see the documentary Food Inc.? It shows how vicious Monsanto often is towards small farmers, even the guy who sold equipment that cleans beans. I was genuinely curious if you're privy to anything debunking claims against Monsanto as a lot of it is likely untrue.
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                Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

                I'm not challenging the fact that there are many Monsanto critics and articles criticizing Monsanto. I agree that there is a lot of criticism of Monsanto.

                I was simply responding to Sal's comment and asking if she could link to any scientific research (which should not to be confused with articles in pop culture magazines) regarding the safety of Monsanto products.

                edit: I see a lot of opinion and speculation so far. I'm more interested in what research you guys are basing your opinions on. Maybe Thom will come through.
                Part of the problem with finding independent research is the patents that companies like Monsanto hold on their gmo seeds. In order to get the seed to research it you have to but it from Monsanto and they simply won't sell their seeds for research.
                It's the same with human health risks. Because there haven't been any long term studies done on eating gmo's the health risks are really almost unknown. When a study does come out, like Seralini's ScienceDirect.com - Food and Chemical Toxicology - Long term toxicity of a Roundup herbicide and a Roundup-tolerant genetically modified maize the hordes of scientist on the biotech's companies payroll come out in force disputing it. But there is mounting evidence that, at the very least gmo's should be held from the market until real independent research can be done to determine their effects on the environment and our health.
                Some things are already known. For example glyphosate is showing up in people at an alarming rate and Cry1Ab (or CryAb1) is showing up in women and pregnant women at an alarming rate.Maternal and fetal exposure to pesticides ass... [Reprod Toxicol. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
                Do you know the current regulations on gmo's in our food system? Currently the FDA relies on the company producing the seeds to submit their own research on the crops safety, same goes for the USDA and EPA. No company to date has submitted any research that has gone past 90 days and none have submitted any as far as human health effects go.
                The person in charge of our food safety currently, is Micheal Taylor. Back in the early 90's he was the lawyer for Monsanto who wrote the regulations for gmo's and later went to work for the FDA where he approved the regulations he wrote.
                But here's a couple links for you.
                The debate on the safety of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) used for food and feed is still very lively throughout the world, more than 15 years after their first commercial release 3-5. Huge social, economical, and political issues have been raised. Unfortunately, although some stakeholders claim that a history of safe use of GMOs can be upheld, there are no human or animal epidemiological studies to support such a claim as yet, in particular because of the lack of labeling and traceability in GMO-producing countries. As a matter of fact, 97% of edible GMOs among cultivated GMOs (soy, corn and oilseed rape or canola, excluding cotton) are grown in South and North America 6, where GMOs are not labeled.
                Debate on GMOs Health Risks after Statistical Findings in Regulatory Tests
                Glyphosate induced cell death t... [Neurotoxicol Teratol. 2012 May-Jun] - PubMed - NCBI
                Independent Health Risk Studies &mdash; Hawaii SEED
                This article is 11 years old, but tell me. Is this the company you want controlling the seed that grows your food?
                Monsanto Hid Decades Of Pollution PCBs Drenched Ala. Town, But No One Was Ever Told By Michael Grunwald Washington Post 1jan01


                Here's one more for you. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php...y_and_Monsanto
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            Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

            Hold on a minute. Do you have a link to any research supporting this? Also, the fact that something is bad for bugs doesn't mean it's bad for humans.
            Currently there isn't a gmo wheat on the market, yet.
            But here's one article on the new gmo wheat they are trying to get on the market.
            Scientists: New GMO wheat may 'silence' vital human genes (Includes interview)
            There's plenty more, just do a search for "new gmo wheat".
            The fact is the reason many gmo crops that are bad for bugs are also bad for humans is the way they are put into the crop.
            Take Bt for example. Bt. is pretty much everywhere and comes in many varieties that are pretty much insect selective. When an insect digests Bt. it is the enzymes and Ph of the insects stomach that may or may not activate the Bt. When it is activated it eats holes in the insects stomach causing it to burst. What they use to make Bt crops iis the toxin in Bt. (Cry1Ab) they use a 'gene gun' to shoot the Cry1Ab gene into the genes of corn (for example). But they also shoot in an activator gene that turns on the Cry1Ab gene. They then shoot all the corn genes with a reactor that kills any corn genes that don't have an active Cry1Ab gene in them and clone the rest. So the Cry1Ab gene is active in every cell of the corn and is no longer dependent on the enzymes and Ph of the insects stomach. In turn when you eat that corn you are eating an active toxin that will work in your stomach and intestines the same way it does in an insects. Plus it has been shown that there is a strong possibility that the gene can migrate into your own bacteria that live in your stomach, turning them toxic also.
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    Thanks Thom - you posted just as I did so I'm changing my post.

    Mojo -- Thom is working with his state legislator (NY) to get GMO's labeled. He's also an expert in horticulture. I also remember when he also thought that being freaky about GMO and Monsanto was paranoia. If anyone has links for ya - there he is.

    But as important as this issue is, frankly. You've been exposed to the idea. You either give a f*** about your health and will do the searches whether links are given to you or not -- or you don't give a f*** and will eat whatever the hell you want at your own risk. That's the real bottom line.
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    Actually - Monsatan was just successfully sued for health damages. Wasn't America. Can't remember where it was. Had to do with no warning labels on their poison for them to wear hazmat gear when they sprayed it and they ended up very ill. So in that case, the company didn't actually lie - they just didn't tell them that the particular "organic" that the poison was made from is deadly. Even groups of farmers have had trouble with lawsuits against them - but with countries banning anything from that corp, the tides are finally turning. The only way that company is staying open in the US is because their execs have infiltrated politics and the FDA.
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    Thom - you forgot to mention buy-outs. One research company found conclusively that Monsanto was killling the bees. Monsanto bought the company 48 hours later. No further reports have come from the company at this point in time and the article was pulled from all Mainstream sources.....but you still might be able to find it on the net still. At least in archive somewhere . The research firm undstood Monsanto and exploded those finding all over the place, knowing they'd be in for some sort of challenge over it. Monsanto couldn't challenge it, so they bought them to shut them up.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Thom - you forgot to mention buy-outs. One research company found conclusively that Monsanto was killling the bees. Monsanto bought the company 48 hours later. No further reports have come from the company at this point in time and the article was pulled from all Mainstream sources.....but you still might be able to find it on the net still. At least in archive somewhere . The research firm undstood Monsanto and exploded those finding all over the place, knowing they'd be in for some sort of challenge over it. Monsanto couldn't challenge it, so they bought them to shut them up.
      I know, but it sounded like mojojuju wanted more science based stuff.
      Here's an article on the buy out for you though.
      Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Bee Research Firm
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      • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
        I eat a lot of weight and I'm 130 pounds soaking wet.

        A lot of horse hockey if you ask me.
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        • Profile picture of the author ThomM
          Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          I eat a lot of weight and I'm 130 pounds soaking wet.

          A lot of horse hockey if you ask me.
          I'm the same way Steve. I've tried every way imaginable minus things like steroids to gain weight and can't gain a pound.
          But I've got to ask, how do you eat weight?
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            Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

            But I've got to ask, how do you eat weight?
            Haven't you heard of the new "weight" diet, Thom?



            It contains all the minerals you need, but is especially high in iron!

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              Originally Posted by Brandon Tanner View Post

              Haven't you heard of the new "weight" diet, Thom?



              It contains all the minerals you need, but is especially high in iron!

              But men are often advised not to consume iron. Would this be a good alternative?
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        • Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

          I eat a lot of weight and I'm 130 pounds soaking wet.

          A lot of horse hockey if you ask me.
          With winter coming on, it might be a good idea if you dry off once in awhile...or you're going to catch cold :p

          and for golly sakes - put on a sweater!
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        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        I know, but it sounded like mojojuju wanted more science based stuff.
        Here's an article on the buy out for you though.
        Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Bee Research Firm
        Hard to get the science of the stuff when they bought the company to shut them up. :rolleyes: At least we got the results before they were gagged this time.
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  • Profile picture of the author benedictccastro
    Modern wheat is a "perfect, chronic poison," according to Dr. William Davis, a cardiologist who has published a book all about the world's most popular grain.

    Davis said that the wheat we eat these days isn't the wheat your grandma had: "It's an 18-inch tall plant created by genetic research in the '60s and '70s," he said on "CBS This Morning." "This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there's a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It's not gluten. I'm not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I'm talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate. This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite, such that we consume 440 more calories per day, 365 days per year."
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I know I eat gluten-free breads pretty often anymore, but I LOVE bread so still eat some multi-grains. When I bake my own you will never see me use bleached flour. Whoever thought bromating flour was a good idea is an idiot or just profits off of poor health. As far as being able to tell anything about feeling different from it. I can't tell. If I am opiated from it, I've been that way so long I can't tell. I have severe difficulties gaining weight - but I've worked to kick my metabolism into high gear and I don't eat a lot of food with chemicals in it - don't eat GMOs. I burn calories so fast that if I eat too much for a few days I won't be able to sleep because of the energy I'm putting out.

    If I am opiated, though - people might want me to remain so. If this is tranquilized, I don't wanna know what normal is. LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by MoneyMagnetMagnate View Post

      "What Doesn't Kill You Makes You Stronger"

      Either Nietzsche, or Conan the Barbarian said that...
      That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
      - Friedrich Nietzsche

      I don't know the context of that statement, but that may be the dumbest thing he ever said.
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      • Profile picture of the author jimbo13
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        That which does not kill us makes us stronger.
        - Friedrich Nietzsche

        I don't know the context of that statement, but that may be the dumbest thing he ever said.
        How can you say that if you don't know the context in which he said it?

        He is talking about the concept of Ubermensch (Superman)

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