If they're not interfering with other people, why do you care how someone else lives?


Paul

What do you mean "forget about everyone else"? Is there some sort of obligation people have to worry about how everyone else lives? Hearing that if you earn money for yourself means you have to spend it or all your time on everyone else's life gets real old real fast. If people want to live better - let them put in the same blood, sweat, and tears into making their own lives better that those who do so put into their effort. To think that every person who makes a buck is supposed to automatically become a social service is ridiculous.

I get the feeling the OP overestimates the truthiness of the sales letters they are exposed to.

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This is the line I dont get....Who in the world says its "supposed" to be anything...Life is what you want it to be, or MAKE it to be, and you have the perogative to change that on a dime whenever you want to...

Personally I spent saturday limericking online with my friends, then went out to a club played pool with my little sister, listened to a great band, and watched the honkey tonk honeys pass by till 2 am....and didnt spend 50 dollars...And its NOBODY's business.

Then I got up and went to church this morning!

And yes, Im a fuilltime entrepreneur who hasnt had a job in years.

My FAVORITE thing to do is curling up on a couch watching disney movies with my grand kids. No money required.

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Tommy,

You and the "99%"(They are NOT the 99%! Some are even in the 1%, etc....) won't develop any good friends this way.

Frankly, I thoroughly RESENT the fact that so many want to treat people like me as punching bags just because we have a little success, or are simply alive. It was enough for me as a kid when it was physical, and you are probably the SAME guys!

You would think that the poor would be HAPPY having a chance to do so well. You would think that the rich would just SHUT UP and mind their own business, since they can now relax.

Do you realize that in the 1930s, $3K was a GREAT income! In 1967, the median income was $6,140! In 2011, the median income was $49,103. $6140 had roughly the same buying power as $49103!!!!!!!!!!!

Look at this site: Median Household Income History in the United States

Do you realize what this is saying? In this year, when that snapshot was taken, inflation has ALREADY gone up another 2%, in LESS THAN A YEAR! That may not sound like much, but it is about another $1000 of LOST buying power, and the year isn't even over! Taking in these facts, I need $16MILLION dollars to have a decent retirement. I might not even be able to travel with that little! FORGET social security! IF they don't cut it, and they WILL cut it, and I get NO other money, because they cut it when you do, that will only give me $240000, TOTAL! Or about 1/67th, about 1.5% of what I need! Ask anyone living on social security, they will tell you it isn't NEARLY enough.

Steve

Im not currently a millionaire Steve, but I am into six figures...and I did it MYSELF... so that is rich to me in its own way... I dont have any retirement that I dont create for myself, or the "advantage" of security...

My security is my belief in myself.

This is a forum where we discuss making MONEy, because thats what people come here to learn, if anyone is poor its not because every single bit of the information needed to "not be that way" isnt here.

I didnt come from money... and we all have a choice,. personally IDEALS are more important to me...and teaching others to make money by themselves is a great reward...

Although Im surrounded by people who ignorantly think its all about the money with me...and couldnt be more wrong. Its more about trying to inspire THEM!

I think people who hate prosperous people are kidding themselves and they want prosperity too... the shame is that they can all get it but not by crying about others having more.

The rich should be an INSPIRATION to the poor, but the poor are poor because they dont view it that way.

You will become whatever you honor and give your honor to...I look up to Randy Gage, and hope to achieve what he has... You cant have prosperity and look down your nose at the prosperous simultaneously.

The truth is that most of them have 3 times the work ethic of a poor me person.

The prosperous are the ones who give jobs to the security seekers, through their own creativity and willingness to bear the burden of providing opportunity for others..

They dont "have" to.

Look at all the opportunity Allen Says provides here for instance, if you think it is not a burden for him at times, you are wrong. For providing that, he has alot of responsibility, and if he has a kings reward its well deserved.

The security seekers complain about the ones who provide their opportunity, and themselves think only of themselves, and their own piece of the pie, which they feel is unfair.

There are people who are richer than me, but I havent hated them for it since I grew up.

I always regret expressing these strong opinions, I had better shut up.

tagiscom - I disagree - the middle class and poor are extremely jealous of the rich - sometimes to the point of actual hatred. What they refuse to look at is that if they were to get off their asses and do something, they might have a chance themselves. Most people have no clue what is involved in earning and leveraging money. It's too much work and most people can't imagine the kind of obsessive work it takes to get the ball rolling. It's those that "get it" that finally get out of their own traps and get ahead.

Thanks T.

As someone who didnt come from wealth, but later achieved some, maybe you can see why its so important for me to share with others. I appreciate you.

I keep intending to do that T. I had my ex wife send me some of my demos awhile back... so i could upload them, but for some reason when I put the cd into my computer the volume wasnt very loud... later I found it was because my daughter had changed my settings so she could watch a movie, but not before taking them to her house... since then I have been asking for them back but she seems to not know where they are... Sigh... lol I will get some music up, truly look forward to sharing it. I also have some old band pics...

I love posting here, hopefully it doesnt come off as too self indulgent.

Here's a couple of old music pics...I could only find two in this computer...One is at a band practice and the other is back stage after a show... Will get some music up whenever I can.

On pic #1 I was WASTED... I may take these down, they are a little embarassing and I may regret it...I have better ones of actual shows... somewhere.

This was maybe...18 years ago,

On Pic number 2 have no idea why the shirt was unbuttoned so far so dont ask....but that guitar is the favorite one I ever owned. Any person who knows studio equipment and looks at the mic can see it was at the studio where we rehearsed. We rehearsed into studio mics alot and then listened back for improvements.

At the time my management company had us set up in a 48 track studio where I reported 8 hours a day- to rehearse for 2 hours, then go to the songwriting room and write all day. Then play gigs at night 4-5 times per week.

Ps. I was probably wasted in pic 2 as well. lol Lots of wasting back in those days...





We had two studios, one upstairs for recording actual tracks, and the other downstairs in the basement for rehearsals...pic two is the downstars one, as you can see from the block walls...the one upstairs was completely padded....

Based on the pictures, I'm guessing country music.

(All that studying of private investigation that I never applied is starting to pay off.)

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Thanks T.
I like the way.

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@ John Durham - There were only two posts in this thread when I first opened it. I had to go do some stuff but was going to come back and reply later. When I refreshed the page and saw your first post, well, you said all that needed to be said and said it as well as anyone could. You're shining like a diamond in the night.

I salute you.

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I would like to add Sal, in case you didnt read the edit, that when I said "You", I didnt mean "You" personally.

(Gosh darn it Axle, I thought we already learned this! Arrrgh...)