The 2012-2013 Official NBA Thread

by Kurt
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It's my favorite time of the year! Both the NFL and NBA seasons going on...

I think the NBA West is up for grabs and haven't condeded it to the Lakers or OKC. One of the stats orientated "gurus" actually picked my Nuggets to win the West.

OKC traded The Beard, so I'm not sure about how that will work out. They will still be very good, but you always have to wonder about making a change to an excellent team.

TL's Lakers got Nash and Howard, but I watched Nash with Phoenix last year, and he couldn't cover Ty Lawson at all. I'm also not sure about how Nash and Kobe will work together, as they both need the ball alot. Will Kobe be willing to let Nash set him up? Will Dwight "Moe" Howard be able to hit free throws when needed?

San Anotonio will be tough as always, but aren't they old yet?

And in the East, it looks like Miami is the only team that will truly contend, especially after adding Ray Allen. The Nets will be improved and the Knicks again over-rated.

As for my Nuggets, they play 17 of their first 23 on the road. If they are anywhere close to .500 after the first 6-7 weeks, you better look out.

And...will Tim's Warriors make the playoffs this year?
  • Profile picture of the author JasonFoong
    Miami is truly a strong team this year. They have the Big 3 and a new added, Ray Allen who is one of NBA's most talented 3 point shooter. I feel that it's going to really hard for the other teams to stop them. They might become the champions again.


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  • Profile picture of the author tjaysen70
    Ha yeah man nice thread. Yeah the line up with Nash and Kobe is going to be interesting for sure. I think that if Nash can step up and play fast and keep the pace moving along, he'll do well. I think he'll have more of a passing role yeah? And maybe take some 3 pointer shots too.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      My Warriors look really good on paper. It's really up to whether Bogut and Curry's ankles can hold up. Besides that, this Warriors team is deeper I have seen it in many years. I'm looking forward to seeing the opener tomorrow because Bogut may play and he didn't play at all in pre season.

      The Nugget's are also deep and young. Plus Karl is one of the best coaches.

      OKL will do just fine without Harden. He's a terrific player, but the way he choked in the finals was surprising and you wonder if that will carry over to other important series. Kevin Martin can flat out score and I see him doing great as Hardin's replacement. Another years experience for the three young stars is going to help them in the playoffs.

      The Lakers? I don't know. Kobe likes to have the ball a lot of the time. I noticed in the pre season games Nash wasn't getting many assists. Plus, he really is getting old. Howard is great defensively and can score on pick and rolls and ally oops, but he hasn't progressed much one on one offensively. Plus, he still can't shoot free throws, so he has his liabilities. I don't see the Lakers making the finals.

      Linmania has bitten the dust and he has come back down to earth. Big mistake by Houston to pay so much for him imo and I do like him, just not as your star player.

      The Spurs will have a great record again probably, but I can't see them getting to the finals either.

      The East? Miami I guess. I would love to see someone else beat them though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Being a Laker fan, I gotta give a shout out to OKC for trading James Harden. That trade pretty much sent the Lakers to the playoffs against most probably the Heat.
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  • Profile picture of the author zimo
    I think OKC is still going to win more games than anyone in the Western Conference, but if they lose a 7 games series to the Lakers there's no doubt people will blame the trade.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Lakers start 0-2. Harden scores 37 with 12 assists, 6 rebounds and four steels in debut win with Houston. My Warriors win despite David lee and Curry going 4 for 30. Nuggets lose low scoring game. Jazz defeat Mavs a day after the Mavs beat the Lakers. Ex Warrior Brandon Wright starts the year off making 13 or 14 shots. ( I always liked that guy and couldn't understand why he wasn't given a better shot to make it with the Warriors. ) Did I mention the Lakers lost 2 in a row? Nash is hurt also.

      Go Warriors!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Lakers start 0-2. Harden scores 37 with 12 assists, 6 rebounds and four steels in debut win with Houston. My Warriors win despite David lee and Curry going 4 for 30. Nuggets lose low scoring game. Jazz defeat Mavs a day after the Mavs beat the Lakers. Ex Warrior Brandon Wright starts the year off making 13 or 14 shots. ( I always liked that guy and couldn't understand why he wasn't given a better shot to make it with the Warriors. ) Did I mention the Lakers lost 2 in a row? Nash is hurt also.

        Go Warriors!
        My Nuggets have looked really bad. They started off the preseason winning their first 3 games, but now have lost their last 4 preseason games plus the regular season opener. It seems to be a case of no one playing well.

        But, the Lakers being 0-2 almost makes up for it...

        PS I was on the record early that the Lakers weren't all that. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the Clippers won more games than the Lakers. I just don't see Nash and Kobe playing well together. Reminds me of when Melo and Iverson both played for the Nuggets. You just can't have two guys that both always need the ball. It really affects the other 3 guys more than anything else.
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  • Profile picture of the author scottsdaleins
    The top 3 teams IMO are the Heat, OKC and Lakers.

    The Lakers need a bit more time to gel together (like the Heat's 1st season with LeBron) and from last night "Eddie Curry dominated us in the paint." - Mike Brown.

    OKC is still going to be good, but with Harden gone, he was the stabilizer. Westbrook is still a bit too wild as a PG and other than the finals, Harden was more than just a 3rd option for scoring in OKC.

    Heat is still the team to beat. Giving even more firepower than last year to Wade+Bron is going to be a fun team to watch.

    I do like the Nuggets and their approach to team building. Iggy seems to be a great fit for them, hope they make it far this year.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Harden scores 45 in game two and is now averaging 41 ppg. Could he be a MVP player? Looks like it was a good move forcing the Thunder to trade him.

      My Warriors are not playing good so far. They lost to Memphis last night at home. Memphis does have some weapons with Gasol, Randolph and Gay. Carl Landry has been playing terrific for the Warriors.

      The Lakers are now 0-3! Will they ever win a game? Kobe did get 40 so he is happy I'm sure, although he got only one assist with 6 turnovers. I'm sure it wasn't his fault they lost though. :/

      The Knicks easily beat the Heat by 20. It's a good day when both the Heat and Lakers lose.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Harden scores 45 in game two and is now averaging 41 ppg. Could he be a MVP player? Looks like it was a good move forcing the Thunder to trade him.

        My Warriors are not playing good so far. They lost to Memphis last night at home. Memphis does have some weapons with Gasol, Randolph and Gay. Carl Landry has been playing terrific for the Warriors.

        The Lakers are now 0-3! Will the ever win a game? Kobe did get 40 so he is happy I'm sure, although he got only one assist with 6 turnovers. I'm sure it wasn't his fault they lost though. :/

        The Knicks easily beat the Heat by 20. It's a good day when both the Heat and Lakers lose.
        My Nuggets aren't playing well either. They just seem out of sync. Out of two games/8 quarters, they've had one decent quarter.

        But...the Lakers being 0-3 almost makes up for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author talfighel
    I did not know that Ray Allen is now a Heat player. Wow, if you think that the past 2 years the MIAMI HEAT was hot, this year they are even hotter. I think little old Ray wanted another championship ring.

    As for the Lakers, they have a strong team this year with Howard and Nash on board.

    I can predict the future and say that HEAT will face the LAKERS on the NBA finals this season.

    As for my raptors, hope they get to the play offs this season. Not expecting a whole lot from them but you never know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    I'm gonna follow NBA season again, after some 7-8 years (Last time I watched a game, Reggie Miller had retired. Wikipedia says that was 2005).

    Rooting for Mavs. Hope Nowitzki returns soon!
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Can't believe my Lakers are 0-3 (worst start since 1978).

    After losing to the Mavs, I thought we would get an easy point against the Trailblazers but I thought we would win against the Clippers for sure.

    Gasol needs to step up and start taking more shots, and World Peace is looking really bad. He can't catch, throw or dribble and his 3 point is off the mark completely.

    Blake is looking good off the bench, he looks a lot better than how he was playing last year.

    Both Gasol and Howard need to step their rebound game up, there is no way they should be getting out-rebounded as many times as they are.

    Nash - well, Nash just needs to be Nash. The princeton thing is a bad look so far, but once they jell it could be a good fit.

    I'm also liking what I'm seeing from Jordan Hill, and Morris looked good last night after getting some extra minutes as the back up point guard with Nash being out.


    We have the Pistons tomorrow, now that should be a good game, but I can see the Lakers getting the first win of the season. After Kobe said "it's time to panic now" in the post-game interview, I can see him putting up big numbers. I can see him getting 30-40 points depending on how good (or bad) the rest of the team play.
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  • Profile picture of the author zimo
    Harden is better than anyone thought. He took no time to adjust to new teammates and is putting up way bigger numbers.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by zimo View Post

      Harden is better than anyone thought. He took no time to adjust to new teammates and is putting up way bigger numbers.
      I always liked Harden. He's one of few that can do a good job guarding Kobe, has a solid shot amongst other things..

      There are only good things ahead for him as long as he stays healthy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Mavs top Bobcats.

    0-3 Kurt! 0-3, your team!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Good for you Kurt.

    Mavs are 4-1. Glad they won without Marion and Nowitzki. And its fun watching the Clippers annihilate Spurs.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      The Warriors looked pretty good last night in beating the Cavs. Their rookie Barnes is getting a lot of minutes because Brandon Rush had a season ending knee injury last week. It was my first good look at Kyrie Erving and I was impressed. He looks like he will be a star for a long time.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      Good for you Kurt.

      Mavs are 4-1. Glad they won without Marion and Nowitzki. And its fun watching the Clippers annihilate Spurs.
      Hey Sumit,

      It seems you're a pretty big NBA fan. How'd you become a fan and do you get much NBA info locally or do you find most of it online?
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      • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Hey Sumit,

        It seems you're a pretty big NBA fan. How'd you become a fan and do you get much NBA info locally or do you find most of it online?
        Ah.. Funny story. When I was little, me and my sister used to fight over who gets to watch TV when, in vacations. So, dad made a rule. I get to watch TV from 6.30 in the morning to 12.00 in the afternoon, then our nanny would get to watch it for 3 hours and then my sister would get to watch afterwards till she goes to sleep.

        They used to show basketball and baseball on ESPN and a sister channel early in the morning. I never understood baseball. Why would anyone hit the ball far and run very hard to catch it? I liked NBA. I liked Shaquille O'Neal. Rooted for any team he was on - first the Lakers, then the Heat. Then we had our cable disconnected for a year, and when we got it back again, they stopped telecasting NBA here for some years and when they finally did, we didn't subscribe to the channel they showed it on. Our satellite provider reschuffled the packages two weeks ago and I get the channel that has NBA. That and UFC too.

        But, they don't show every game and I only really watch the highlights at night. I don't wanna wake up at 6.30-7.30 in the morning on holidays. As for offline coverage, there is almost none. They only mention it on the last page of Sports in the newspapers. I watched the Spurs game on the internet yesterday. The Clippers were not so good last time I checked!
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Why are you a fan of the Mavs Sumit? I'm following the Mavs now partially because of Brandon Wright who I have always thought had great potential and is now showing it with the Mavs.
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          • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Why are you a fan of the Mavs Sumit? I'm following the Mavs now partially because of Brandon Wright who I have always thought had great potential and is now showing it with the Mavs.
            Well, Shaq is retired now. So, I needed a new team. I've always sort of liked Nowitzki too... He was like a lone warrior in all the games I've watched of Mavs. There'd be a bunch of crappy team mates around him and this guy would be taking on the other team single-handedly. Last season I checked the Mavs roster and thought it was awesome - Nowitzki, Carter, Kidd, are the players I'd watched back then, some eight years ago (I had no idea who Shawn Marion was though).

            Also, I like Mark Cuban. He is an internet entrepreneur and an inspiration. I follow his blog regularly. So, it all fell into place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Man, I can't believe the Lakers. 1-4 is not good at all.

    Did anyone see them against the Jazz? I was looking forward to that match-up, obviously more so than the Lakers as a team. They looked like they 'couldn't be bothered' then there was a little run in the third that looked as if they'd finally arrived.

    Unfortunately it all went bad in the fourth when Foye started draining the 3, then the game was over.

    I just can't get over teh fact how BAD they are at grabbing defensive rebounds (and offensive, but seems they are worse on defense). You've got both Howard and Gasol yet there are getting out-rebounded by smaller players all the time.

    At the other end it just as bad, when they do actually get the rebound they can't convert. Last night they were grabbing the rebound as much as three times, having three more failed attempts.

    With that being said, so far I'm liking what I see from Hill and Morris. Jamison is a non-factor, but is good at passing and setting team mates up. And I have no idea what Mike Brown is doing in regards to rotations. I've hardly seen anything from Meeks (mini mamba) as he's just not getting the playing time.

    With Nash out, they need to start Blake, Kobe, Meeks, Gasol and Howard switching Meeks and Blake out after a 4 minutes and putting Morris, World Peace and Hill (replacing either Gasol or Howard whoever playing worse) until Nash gets back and they can get some set rotations.
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    • Profile picture of the author glavilla
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      Man, I can't believe the Lakers. 1-4 is not good at all.

      Did anyone see them against the Jazz? I was looking forward to that match-up, obviously more so than the Lakers as a team. They looked like they 'couldn't be bothered' then there was a little run in the third that looked as if they'd finally arrived.

      Unfortunately it all went bad in the fourth when Foye started draining the 3, then the game was over.

      I just can't get over teh fact how BAD they are at grabbing defensive rebounds (and offensive, but seems they are worse on defense). You've got both Howard and Gasol yet there are getting out-rebounded by smaller players all the time.

      At the other end it just as bad, when they do actually get the rebound they can't convert. Last night they were grabbing the rebound as much as three times, having three more failed attempts.

      With that being said, so far I'm liking what I see from Hill and Morris. Jamison is a non-factor, but is good at passing and setting team mates up. And I have no idea what Mike Brown is doing in regards to rotations. I've hardly seen anything from Meeks (mini mamba) as he's just not getting the playing time.

      With Nash out, they need to start Blake, Kobe, Meeks, Gasol and Howard switching Meeks and Blake out after a 4 minutes and putting Morris, World Peace and Hill (replacing either Gasol or Howard whoever playing worse) until Nash gets back and they can get some set rotations.
      I think they need to talk about their problems. There are lapses both players and staff of the Lakers. As a player they should give their best, share the ball and trust each other while in the coaching staff they need to motivate the players more and encourage them to play as a team. I think the team is locked of team play and they need to know each other. Maybe 5-10 games they will show the true LA Lakers.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Word is that the Lakers just fired Mike Brown.

    Not sure if it's true, but there is a lot of talk online, lets just hope its true.

    EDIT - it's official, Brown is gone! Potential new coaches are - Jerry Sloan, Kurt Rambis, Mike D'Antoni.....and Phil Jackson himself although this is highly un-likey in my opinion.

    Can't wait for Nash to get better after his injury, at least Nash can now be Nash and we can forget the whole Princeton Offense (hopefully!)

    Maybe they can get some solid rotations too, haven't seen hardly anything from Jodie Meeks as of yet.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      Word is that the Lakers just fired Mike Brown.

      Not sure if it's true, but there is a lot of talk online, lets just hope its true.

      EDIT - it's official, Brown is gone! Potential new coaches are - Jerry Sloan, Kurt Rambis, Mike D'Antoni.....and Phil Jackson himself although this is highly un-likey in my opinion.

      Can't wait for Nash to get better after his injury, at least Nash can now be Nash and we can forget the whole Princeton Offense (hopefully!)

      Maybe they can get some solid rotations too, haven't seen hardly anything from Jodie Meeks as of yet.
      Good news break.

      I'm not sure you fire a coach after 5 games, but they did and I'd probably go with reuniting D'Antoni with Steve Nash.

      And, I wonder why Kareem never gets any mentions? I know he wants to coach. He must have really burned some bridges.
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      • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Good news break.

        I'm not sure you fire a coach after 5 games, but they did and I'd probably go with reuniting D'Antoni with Steve Nash.

        And, I wonder why Kareem never gets any mentions? I know he wants to coach. He must have really burned some bridges.
        D'Antoni would be a good fit, but me being a Laker fan there is always that part of me that would love to see Phil come back (even though it doesn't seem realistic)

        I heard he has canceled a few speeches though, so maybe he knew before everyone else and is toying with the idea..
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  • Profile picture of the author zimo
    They fired him right before a homestand where they will undoubtedly run off some wins. Slick move management.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The Nuggets win their 3rd straight game, dominating the Jazz. This sets up the most anticipated regular season game of the season tomorrow night:

    The Nuggets vs. The Warriors
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Haha. I am looking forward to it.

      I missed the W's game tonight and apparently is was a good thing I did. :/

      So the Nuggets are playing good now and the W's just lost to a 1-4 team! A 1-4 Team!

      Bogut won't be playing by the way, because his ankle is giving him problems again. He looks like a hell of a player if he can stay healthy, which seems to be a problem now:/
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Haha. I am looking forward to it.

        I missed the W's game tonight and apparently is was a good thing I did. :/

        So the Nuggets are playing good now and the W's just lost to a 1-4 team! A 1-4 Team!

        Bogut won't be playing by the way, because his ankle is giving him problems again. He looks like a hell of a player if he can stay healthy, which seems to be a problem now:/
        Bogut and Alex Smith were the only two over-all #1 picks in the same year from the same school for both the NBA and NFL...(Utah).

        And speaking of Utah, the game against Utah was the best I've seen the Nuggets play in a very long time. If they could have hit some layups they would have won by 30+. Their D and rebounding was excellent.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    How about the Lakers, now that's how they should be playing!

    Loved the "We want Phil" chants by the crowd. Great game.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      By the way, as a side note to the Warriors game last night, there was the case of what one writer is calling "The Worst Free Throw Ever" by Andris Biedrins. It's funny and sad at the same time. Here's the sad part. He's become a major head case because of his free throw shooting and is just a shell of the former player he was.

      During the 2008-09 season, Golden State Warriors center Andris Biedrins notched impressive averages of 11.9 points, 11.2 rebounds, and 1.5 blocks in only 30 minutes a game for his team, while hitting 55 percent of his free throws. Since that year, however, Biedrins has shot a miserable 22 percent from the stripe in three seasons-plus, missing a remarkable 52 out of 67 free throws attempted. As expertly detailed by Sports Illustrated's Chris Ballard earlier this fall, his confidence and overall game has suffered significantly as a result. The Warriors can't play him, fearful of intentional fouls, and Biedrins just about runs from the ball any time he's on the court.
      The funny part:


      Golden State Warriors center Andris Biedrins airballs a free throw by over a foot (VIDEO) | Ball Don't Lie - Yahoo! Sports
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    Nuggets win in 2 OTs.

    Tim...did you watch the game?

    It was the most exciting ugly game I've seen in quite a while. I think this was the worst game I've ever seen Ty Lawson play. Neither team shot well, but both teams played hard.
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      Oh yeah. I watched it! haha. Can't believe Landry missed those two free throws at the end and Biedrins made his two! Fun game to watch. Both teams have a lot of potential.

      Really bad shooting though, by both teams. Ugly is right!
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Nuggets win in 2 OTs.

      Tim...did you watch the game?

      It was the most exciting ugly game I've seen in quite a while. I think this was the worst game I've ever seen Ty Lawson play. Neither team shot well, but both teams played hard.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Oh yeah. I watched it! haha. Can't believe Landry missed those two free throws at the end and Biedrins made his two! Fun game to watch. Both teams have a lot of potential.
        It was a very fun game to watch, especially the ending.

        Also, Thompson missed two FTs at the end of regulation(?) that really hurt the Ws.

        Nuggets have won 4 straight, which is impressive as they played the 4 games in 5 nights. Using the Doug Moe formula, we are now +2. (Road wins minus home losses)
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Mavs lost to Bobcats! WTF! I didn't even know there was a team called Bobcats before this season!

    Where's Dirk Nowitzki!?!?
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      Mavs lost to Bobcats! WTF! I didn't even know there was a team called Bobcats before this season!

      Where's Dirk Nowitzki!?!?
      Dirk is out, I think it's a knee. If I remember correctly, he'll miss 6-8 weeks, but I could be wrong.

      The Bobcats set a record for lowest winning percentage last season....and they are owned by Michael Jordan. Losing to the Bobcats isn't good.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    So, looks like the Lakers just made it official - They signed Mike D'Antoni.

    Kinda bummed we didn't get Phil back after all the talk, but I didn't get my hopes up too much.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I am a bit surprised by the hiring. I don't really see D'Antoni and Kobe being a good fit for the long term. Of course, it will be great for Nash, but this isn't the same Nash who played for D'Antoni several years ago. I don't see Steve Blake as a guard that can run the D'Antoni offense. You will probably see Chris Duhon get a lot more playing time though.

      The reason I don't think this signing will work with Kobe is because this style of offense depends on running and gunning, which is not a style that makes Kobe the focus of the offense.
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      So, looks like the Lakers just made it official - They signed Mike D'Antoni.

      Kinda bummed we didn't get Phil back after all the talk, but I didn't get my hopes up too much.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The Nuggets just can't shoot. We need to trade one of our 15 athletic guys for a shooter like Mike Miller or Kyle Korver. And I don't know what's happened to Ty Lawson. I thought he'd be an all-star this year, but he's been in a deep funk so far this season.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      The Warrior's Curry and Thompson are shooting bad also. Weird. Their two best pure shooters and they look like stiffs so far. I'm thinking it can't last.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      The Nuggets just can't shoot. We need to trade one of our 15 athletic guys for a shooter like Mike Miller or Kyle Korver. And I don't know what's happened to Ty Lawson. I thought he'd be an all-star this year, but he's been in a deep funk so far this season.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        The Warrior's Curry and Thompson are shooting bad also. Weird. Their two best pure shooters and they look like stiffs so far. I'm thinking it can't last.
        Curry is one of the very best pure shooters in the NBA. He'll snap out of it soon. And Thompson is a very good shooter. I think he'll be fine.

        Are there any other father/son duos with games as completely different as Mychal and Klay Thompson?

        BTW, I still think JB Carrol was a better player than Mychal Thompson, both #1's overall, but no one called Mychal Thompson a bust.
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          Yeah, Mychal and Klay sure do have different games. Speaking of Father/son in sports, I saw Aaron Pryor Jr fight tonight. He's 6'4", skinney and didn't throw very many punches tonight. He lost.

          I liked JB.
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          Curry is one of the very best pure shooters in the NBA. He'll snap out of it soon. And Thompson is a very good shooter. I think he'll be fine.

          Are there any other father/son duos with games as completely different as Mychal and Klay Thompson?

          BTW, I still think JB Carrol was a better player than Mychal Thompson, both #1's overall, but no one called Mychal Thompson a bust.
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Yeah, Mychal and Klay sure do have different games. Speaking of Father/son in sports, I saw Aaron Pryor Jr fight tonight. He's 6'4", skinney and didn't throw very many punches tonight. He lost.

            I liked JB.
            Speaking of Aaron Pryor, just read Hector Macho Camacho is clinging to life after the car he was riding in was riddled with bullets.
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              Yeah, I saw that too. Only 50. He was fun to watch fight.
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              Speaking of Aaron Pryor, just read Hector Macho Camacho is clinging to life after the car he was riding in was riddled with bullets.
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                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Yeah, I saw that too. Only 50. He was fun to watch fight.
                I actually gained the most respect for Macho in his fight against Julio Cesar Chavez. Chavez beat the crap out of Macho, nailing him time and again. But Macho made it through the entire fight standing and didn't back down. He even gained Chavez's respect after that fight.
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                  I remember that fight. Brutal. hey, speaking of athletes kids, I saw a clip of Julio Cesar Chavez's son fight recently. I think he lost also.

                  Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                  I actually gained the most respect for Macho in his fight against Julio Cesar Chavez. Chavez beat the crap out of Macho, nailing him time and again. But Macho made it through the entire fight standing and didn't back down. He even gained Chavez's respect after that fight.
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    Here's a story for you...Some kid at a small college in Iowa breaks the college scoring record with 138 points in a game:
    Jack Taylor scores 138 points for Grinnell - The Denver Post

    He took 108 shots...I wonder how many assists he had?
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    My Nuggets won their second straight on the road to pull even at 6-6, comong back from being down by 17 against Min. The Nuggets have only played 3 home games, with 9 on the road. Using the Doug Moe method, the Nuggets are +3. OKC is only +1 and the Lakers are -3 and the Warriors are +2.

    We finally play two straight home games, starting with the most widely anticipated rematch of the season against Tim's Warriors.
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      Shoot. I'm going to miss that game. I have a date. ( In case in the unlikely event she ever see's this, you are definitely worth missing the game of the year gorgeous! )

      Klay Thompson had a breakout game for him last night, shooting wise. Finally! believe it or not, it was his first game of the year where he shot above 50%. Curry also shot well.

      Lakers lost another one and their next game is in Memphis who are a very good team this year.

      Happy Thanksgiving Kurt and other Warriors.

      By the way, where the he ll is TL at? Was he banned from the off topic? How can I completely enjoy the Lakers' losing season without him around?

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      We finally play two straight home games, starting with the most widely anticipated rematch of the season against Tim's Warriors.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Shoot. I'm going to miss that game. I have a date. ( In case in the unlikely event she ever see's this, you are definitely worth missing the game of the year gorgeous! )

        Klay Thompson had a breakout game for him last night, shooting wise. Finally! believe it or not, it was his first game of the year where he shot above 50%. Curry also shot well.

        Lakers lost another one and their next game is in Memphis who are a very good team this year.

        Happy Thanksgiving Kurt and other Warriors.

        By the way, where the he ll is TL at? Was he banned from the off topic? How can I completely enjoy the Lakers' losing season without him around?
        Tim...Tim...Tim...Take her to the Nuggets/Warriors game for the date.

        I don't know about TL. But I agree, every Laker loss is 100x better when he's arround.
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          Sounds good except that the game is in Denver.
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Tim...Tim...Tim...Take her to the Nuggets/Warriors game for the date.
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Sounds good except that the game is in Denver.
            Cheapskate.

            Nuggets win by 11 after being down by 6 at half.
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              Not a good date or a good game. I saw it in replay at midnight and if the date went better I would have just read about the game in the morning. Another bad game by Curry. He just is too lackadaisical in his play many times. I wasn't a big fan of the W's keeping him and trading Ellis. Ellis is only a couple years older and a better player in my opinion.

              At least the Lakers lost again.
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              • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                After being named coach of the Lakers, Mike D'Antoni said: ( paraphrasing here ) "If we don't score 115 or 120 there's something wrong".

                Well, in tonight's loss, the Lakers scored 77 while shooting 31%. Dwight Howard was the only Laker to shoot well from the field making 7 of 10, besides, that is, Jordan Hill who was just 1 for 2. However Howard made only 3 of 12 free throws. :/ Kobe Bryant didn't shoot well at 12 for 28, but he did get a triple double: 40 points, 10 rebounds and 10 turnovers! Hey, does turnovers count towards triple doubles?

                TL, where art though? haha
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                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  After being named coach of the Lakers, Mike D'Antoni said: ( paraphrasing here ) "If we don't score 115 or 120 there's something wrong".

                  Well, in tonight's loss, the Lakers scored 77 while shooting 31%. Dwight Howard was the only Laker to shoot well from the field making 7 of 10, besides, that is, Jordan Hill who was just 1 for 2. However Howard made only 3 of 12 free throws. :/ Kobe Bryant didn't shoot well at 12 for 28, but he did get a triple double: 40 points, 10 rebounds and 10 turnovers! Hey, does turnovers count towards triple doubles?

                  TL, where art though? haha
                  Lets not forget Kobe was playing with the flu (or flu like symptoms).

                  It was a bad game overall, the Pacers didn't play spectacular.

                  Just a bad, bad game - for both sides.

                  If you saw how the Lakers played against the Mavs on Monday, you can see when they are playing well, they are very dominant. Not forgetting they lost to the Mavs whilst under Browns management.
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    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

    And in the East, it looks like Miami is the only team that will truly contend, especially after adding Ray Allen. The Nets will be improved and the Knicks again over-rated.
    I likemthenway you think my friend. I was so excited when the heat picked up Ray Ray

    With Harden starting for the Rockets now, Imsee the Heat taking the east and winning another ring..

    Don't see Lakers getting it together
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    Has the NBA always had no games on Thanksgiving?
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Nope, but didn't last year or this year. They always seem to have a couple games on Xmas though.
      Originally Posted by zimo View Post

      Has the NBA always had no games on Thanksgiving?
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    I guess the Lakers need a new new coach.
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    And tonight is the final chapter of:

    The Great NBA 2012 Trilogy

    Will the Nuggets sweep the Warriors? Or are the Nuggets looking ahead with the second of a back-to-back road game against the evil Lakers Friday night? Will Ty Lawson finally hit some free throws? Will Stephan Curry finally hit a bucket at all? Is it Bogut vs. Nugget?
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      Geesh. The W's better win at least one. I think they have a couple guys who match up well with the physical play of the Nuggets in Landry, Ezeli and sometimes Lee. I think it really comes down to them making shots. If Curry and Thompson can both shoot well the W's should win tonight. That hasn't happened much this year though.

      Bogut is not going to play and may not for a while. :/

      By the way Kurt, Barnes has been having a real good rookie year. Here's a view of a recent dunk by him from a few different angles:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=Vm4UQPTORfE

      By the way, it's not as big a game as the Warriors/Nuggets rematch, but the Spurs play the Heat tonight in Miami. Should be interesting.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Geesh. The W's better win at least one. I think they have a couple guys who match up well with the physical play of the Nuggets in Landry, Ezeli and sometimes Lee. I think it really comes down to them making shots. If Curry and Thompson can both shoot well the W's should win tonight. That hasn't happened much this year though.
        The Nuggets biggest problem is free throw shooting. We're last in the NBA. It's so bad, I can't even make fun of Dwight "Moe" Howard. Virtually every Nugget is shooting below his career percentage. Ty Lawson shot something like 81% last year, and the last time I checked, he was below 60% this year. I know we've lost 2-3 games simply from poor FT shooting.

        By the way Kurt, Barnes has been having a real good rookie year. Here's a view of a recent dunk by him from a few different angles:

        Harrison Barnes BIG Jam: All Angles! - YouTube
        Just a reminder, I had Harrison "Good News" Barnes second on my draft board, behind only Anthony "The Brow" Davis.

        BTW...Remember Marvin "Bad News" Barnes?

        By the way, it's not as big a game as the Warriors/Nuggets rematch, but the Spurs play the Heat tonight in Miami. Should be interesting.
        Not a bad D-league game.

        And again...aren't the Spurs old yet?
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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          It's so bad, I can't even make fun of Dwight "Moe" Howard.
          That's OK. I still can! Here's something you don't see often. Someone missing a free throw without even shooting it! haha In fact, I have never seen this rule called on anyone else.


          Another
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          D league is right for the Spurs. They have like 6 of their top players not playing tonight and are still ahead with 3:32 in the 2nd. Popovich is the best coach in the NBA imo.

          I think it's pretty interesting how Popovich decided to rest certain players when they are on national TV.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Not a bad D-league game.

          And again...aren't the Spurs old yet?
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    Nuggets start slow, but end the half on a 26-8 run. IMO, Faried makes a big difference. When he's in the game he somehow seems to give the entire team energy.
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    Congrats Tim...Another fun game. We came up 1/10th of a second short.
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      Wow! Crazy game and ending. These two teams are pretty evenly matched. It will be interesting to see where they end up at the end of the year.
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    Not only did we lose to the Lakers, but Dwight "Moe" Howard even hit a 3 pointer in the closing seconds to rub salt into the wound.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Not only did we lose to the Lakers, but Dwight "Moe" Howard even hit a 3 pointer in the closing seconds to rub salt into the wound.
      The second three pointer of his career!

      What a great win, great shooting by both Jamison and Meeks.

      About time Antawn found his shot, Meeks was on fire too 7/8 from 3-point if my memory serves correctly?

      Great win.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        I know Kurt doesn't want to hear this, but the Knicks look like they are for real. They just beat the Heat by 20 tonight in Miami. The worst defeat for Miami at home since Lebron started playing there. I'm not a big Carmelo fan either but seeing Miami lose warms my soul. It was an especially impressive win without Melo and Amare.

        By the way, I was looking at Mike Woodson's career record and I'm thinking this guy is probably the big reason the Knicks have improved. He had a good stint with Atlanta and now has the Knicks on a roll. Seems to be a very underrated coach.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          I know Kurt doesn't want to hear this, but the Knicks look like they are for real. They just beat the Heat by 20 tonight in Miami. The worst defeat for Miami at home since Lebron started playing there. I'm not a big Carmelo fan either but seeing Miami lose warms my soul. It was an especially impressive win without Melo and Amare.

          By the way, I was looking at Mike Woodson's career record and I'm thinking this guy is probably the big reason the Knicks have improved. He had a good stint with Atlanta and now has the Knicks on a roll. Seems to be a very underrated coach.
          I don't mind the Knicks...It's Melo I don't care for.

          And like I've said for years, the Knicks seem to win as much without Melo as they did with him, just like the Nuggets did for years.

          Actually, I don't dislike Melo, I just don't like him and think he's the most overrated player in the NBA, and the Nuggets and Knicks record without him in the lineup backs up my opinion.
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            I agree about Melo Kurt.

            Hey, we'll see tonight how well the W's are playing when they go into Miami. Curry is playing as well as I have ever seen him play the last two weeks or so after a very slow start.
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              Well, the Warriors seem to be for real also. They beat the Heat tonight in Miami to win 5 in a row to start this road trip! Great game!
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                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Well, the Warriors seem to be for real also. They beat the Heat tonight in Miami to win 5 in a row to start this road trip! Great game!
                Always nice to see the Heat lose
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              I agree about Melo Kurt.

              Hey, we'll see tonight how well the W's are playing when they go into Miami. Curry is playing as well as I have ever seen him play the last two weeks or so after a very slow start.
              We'll start to come around now. We're playing a little better, but still can't hit free throws which has cost us a couple of games.

              But the big thing is, the Nuggets have only played 6 games at home and 17 on the road. The biggest imbalance for this many games ever in the NBA. We're 11-12 dispite this, and although I was hoping for a little better, I think we're in pretty good shape.

              And it's funny how Laker-land is in turmoil. I think many of the Laker fans are starting to believe in the Mayan thing. Where's TL when you need him?
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              • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                Watching the Lakers/Knicks game, which hasn't been a very good contest. Barkley is talking about food and his favorite TV shows. Then he says the Lakers are going to have a game the next night against the Washington Generals. Lol. Too funny.

                On another note, Steve Kerr in talking about D'Antoni tonight said he "revolutionized" the game and that even Dallas is playing his game now! What a bunch of BS. Hey, I watched Don Nelson coach the Warriors for about a decade. First with RUN TMC which was the running gunning small basketball of the Warriors with Chris Mullen, Mitch Ritchmond and Tim Hardaway. They were small, ran and shot the ball with no conscious. Then Nelson goes to Dallas who had one of the worst teams in the league at the time, drafts Nowitzki, tardes for Nash and turns the franchise around while moulding Nash and Mowitzki into all star players. Nash, after 6 solid years of improvement goes to Phoenix and continues to improve. Somehow, now D'Antoni is now the one who revolutiozed the game. That's just rewriting history. D'Antoni didn't revolutionize anything and so far can just be considered an above average coach who had some great players. He didn't do that well with the Knicks and what's happening with the Lakers isn't helping his rep either.

                I'm sure Kurt has something to say about this also with the history of the Doug Moe and Paul Westhead Nugget teams.
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    The Knicks will look for real until June when the Heat beat them 4-1 in the Eastern Conference Finals.
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      Haha. Probably right. I bet the games will be close though and interesting which I wouldn't have guessed before the season started.
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      The Knicks will look for real until June when the Heat beat them 4-1 in the Eastern Conference Finals.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Quick update on the NBA season: The Warriors won the first 4 games of a road trip for the first time since the 70s team with Rick Barry and the Lakers lost tonight to the Cavs and are now 5 1/2 games behind the Warriors in the Western Division.

        OK, I think that covers all that matters in the NBA now.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Quick update on the NBA season: The Warriors won the first 4 games of a road trip for the first time since the 70s team with Rick Barry and the Lakers lost tonight to the Cavs and are now 5 1/2 games behind the Warriors in the Western Division.

          OK, I think that covers all that matters in the NBA now.
          Can't believe they lost to the Cav's after losing at home to the Jazz. Thought they would have come out and dominate.

          The only "highlight" of that game was Kobe and Kyrie going "one on one".

          9/13 aint gonna cut it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    I'm a BIG Lakers fan, but at the same time I am a HUGE fan of the game of basketball.

    It's disappointing to see a team with THIS MUCH TALENT lose this amount of games. Yeah, there's a new system, new coach, new players, injuries etc. But even then, if you separate these stars to their own team, I bet they would all be over .500 for the teams that they're in.

    Hopefully with Pau resting, and Nash recovering, they would be able to make a difference when they return.

    My favorite PLAYER though, happens to be with the Clippers CP3. He changed that WHOLE team around. Wow.

    Kyrie Irving has been phenomenal. He's only improving from here on out.

    When it comes to contenders, I seriously think that the NY Knicks and the Memphis Grizzlies are one of my biggest surprises.
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      I'm a BIG Lakers fan, but at the same time I am a HUGE fan of the game of basketball.

      It's disappointing to see a team with THIS MUCH TALENT lose this amount of games. Yeah, there's a new system, new coach, new players, injuries etc. But even then, if you separate these stars to their own team, I bet they would all be over .500 for the teams that they're in.

      Hopefully with Pau resting, and Nash recovering, they would be able to make a difference when they return.

      My favorite PLAYER though, happens to be with the Clippers CP3. He changed that WHOLE team around. Wow.

      Kyrie Irving has been phenomenal. He's only improving from here on out.

      When it comes to contenders, I seriously think that the NY Knicks and the Memphis Grizzlies are one of my biggest surprises.
      I feel you, I'm a Laker fan myself.

      However, with this being said I don't think Nash is going to solve all the problems. The problem to me is not so much offense, it's defense and rebounding. Having both Howard and Gasol and were getting out-rebounded?

      With Nash back, he will be a great addition on the offensive end, however like I said the problems seem to be rebounding and defense, both of which he won't be any help on.

      We need a decent, FAST pint-guard to back Nash up. With the game having so many athletic point guards, Nash doesn't stand a chance, forcing a lot of different defensive mis-matches, and this is where were getting killed.
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        No, Nash won't solve anything on the DEFENSE portion which is a HUGE problem. Offensively I think we're okay. Just need to polish up on the turnovers, and that's where Nash comes in. However, one thing that I see is a blessing in disguise is with Nash being out, it gives the bench players more playing time. There's been word of Delonte West.

        Darrius Moris is beyond garbage. Sure he's athletic but blah. I wish we had Sessions off the bench. He's killing it right now.

        But it is lack of chemistry that's for sure. Hopefully Gasol will have his legs ready. Beause having those two big men close to 100 percent will make a big difference.
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        I feel you, I'm a Laker fan myself.

        However, with this being said I don't think Nash is going to solve all the problems. The problem to me is not so much offense, it's defense and rebounding. Having both Howard and Gasol and were getting out-rebounded?

        With Nash back, he will be a great addition on the offensive end, however like I said the problems seem to be rebounding and defense, both of which he won't be any help on.

        We need a decent, FAST pint-guard to back Nash up. With the game having so many athletic point guards, Nash doesn't stand a chance, forcing a lot of different defensive mis-matches, and this is where were getting killed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    Well, my exams are just done and I see that the Mavs are getting toasted. Tim's team is having a good run.

    I don't think my team will make the playoff if they keep playing like this. So, see ya guys next year.
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      Originally Posted by Sumit Menon View Post

      Well, my exams are just done and I see that the Mavs are getting toasted. Tim's team is having a good run.

      I don't think my team will make the playoff if they keep playing like this. So, see ya guys next year.
      Hey Mavs aren't bad at all. There's no Dirk. I LOVE OJ Mayo too. They're not completely out.
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        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Hey Mavs aren't bad at all. There's no Dirk. I LOVE OJ Mayo too. They're not completely out.
        Yeah, hopefully Dirk will return and turn things around. But, wait, when did we acquire Fisher?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Cool thread! Love seeing the Lakers mess and let's hope they continue to lose. What the Warriors are doing right now is pretty incredible. What a great game in Miami last night.

    OKC, Spurs and Memphis look real strong in the West once again.
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    For D'Antoni to say that the Post isn't an effective offense is the dumbest thing ever.
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    I was glad when the Lakers hired D'Antoni because I knew his style of offense wasn't suited for that team.

    Result: Lakers will suck! That's always good.

    They are actually now tied with my team, the Kings.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    It was hard to watch the Lakers/Knicks game.

    The first quarter was embarrassing.

    Looked for a few moments in the fourth they may be able to pull it back, then of course they blew it (as usual)

    D'Antoni is a complete idiot.
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    Hahaha this is awesome. Something to talk about OUTSIDE of internet marketing. That Stephen Curry guy has been BEASTIN. I just hope his glass ankles will be okay =D.
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      Don't jinx it man! I've been worried about his ankles all year!

      Curry has been playing great ball the last few weeks except for that Miami game. David Lee is having an all star year also. I'm looking forward to the game Sat against Atlanta! I'm not sure why the W's have a problem with the Magic btw. :/

      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      That Stephen Curry guy has been BEASTIN. I just hope his glass ankles will be okay =D.
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        Damn, the Warriors beat Atlanta easily to finish the road trip 6-1. That's the 1st time in franchise history to win 6 games in a road trip! I'm starting to get excited about this team.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Damn, the Warriors beat Atlanta easily to finish the road trip 6-1. That's the 1st time in franchise history to win 6 games in a road trip! I'm starting to get excited about this team.
          This is WITHOUT Andrew Bogut =P.

          I'm going to the Lakers game on Monday against the Bobcats. People say why the Bobcats? Well, the way Lakers are playing, ANY team is a potential threat =(.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            If Bogut ever gets healthy he will fit in really nicely with this team, offensively and defensively.

            You are right about the Bobcats being a threat. Hey, the Lakers barely beat the Wash Generals the other night.

            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            This is WITHOUT Andrew Bogut =P.

            I'm going to the Lakers game on Monday against the Bobcats. People say why the Bobcats? Well, the way Lakers are playing, ANY team is a potential threat =(.
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              If Bogut ever gets healthy he will fit in really nicely with this team, offensively and defensively.

              You are right about the Bobcats being a threat. Hey, the Lakers barely beat the Wash Generals the other night.
              Thank goodness they destroyed Philly. But that was without Jrue Holiday.
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                I like to rag on the Lakers but seriously, I expect them to jell at some point after getting Gasol and Nash back. I don't think D'Antoni was the right choice for them, but they will get hot before the end of the year.

                Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                Thank goodness they destroyed Philly. But that was without Jrue Holiday.
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                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  I like to rag on the Lakers but seriously, I expect them to jell at some point after getting Gasol and Nash back. I don't think D'Antoni was the right choice for them, but they will get hot before the end of the year.
                  I hope they win tuesday. I'm 7-0 when going to the Lakers game. (I just jinxed muyself).

                  D'Antoni should have hired a defensive specialist. There's no point of having Eddy Jordan as their assistant coach when they don't even implement the princeton offense.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Damn, the Warriors beat Atlanta easily to finish the road trip 6-1. That's the 1st time in franchise history to win 6 games in a road trip! I'm starting to get excited about this team.
          Hey Tim,

          Just came across this...Using the Doug Moe system of ranking teams, you get +1 for each road win and -1 for each home loss, here's the standings:

          Spurs +9
          Knicks +8
          Warriors +7
          Nuggets +6

          I could be off by a point, but right now these 4 teams are the highest ranked in the NBA. It's an interesting system that factors in the idea that some teams that may have played more road games than others.

          BTW, the Lakers are -2.
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            Nice stat Kurt. Congrats on the win against the Spurs tonight! That's always a tough one even at home. My Warriors took care of business tonight against a spirited Hornets team. Meanwhile, GGpaul is sweating it out at the Laker's home game against the Bobcats.
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              Nice stat Kurt. Congrats on the win against the Spurs tonight! That's always a tough one even at home. My Warriors took care of business tonight against a spirited Hornets team. Meanwhile, GGpaul is sweating it out at the Laker's home game against the Bobcats.
              Man, that game was TENSE!

              That last possession almost killed me.
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    Not that I want to help either the Lakers or the Knicks, but it seems a trade of Pau for Amare, once he's heathy, may benefit both teams. Amare, Nash and "No D" Antoni worked well together.
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    Geez...The Nuggets don't hit a single shot outside the paint until 38 seconds left in the loss against Portland. This includes a record breaking 0 of 22 from 3pt range.

    We really didn't play poorly, but when you can't hit any jumpers and shoot about 64% from the free throw line, you won't win many games.
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      Yikes! 0-22?! That is a record that may never be broken. You mentioned before they may need to trade some of their inside players for some shooters and I'm thinking you may be right now. The Nuggets definitely have talent, so it can be done.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Geez...The Nuggets don't hit a single shot outside the paint until 38 seconds left in the loss against Portland. This includes a record breaking 0 of 22 from 3pt range.

      We really didn't play poorly, but when you can't hit any jumpers and shoot about 64% from the free throw line, you won't win many games.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yikes! 0-22?! That is a record that may never be broken. You mentioned before they may need to trade some of their inside players for some shooters and I'm thinking you may be right now. The Nuggets definitely have talent, so it can be done.
        And...They only hit one jumper the entire game at all, with 38 seconds left. All their points came in the paint or from the FT line.

        The Nuggets are very deep and have 3-4 guys that can play but never get any time. We need to trade someone like Mosgov for a legit 3 point shooter. He doesn't play because Koufas and Javale Mcghee are playing pretty well and get the time. I'm sure some team can use a 7'1" guy that can run and give a solid 15-20 minutes a game.

        BTW, I don't mean to brag, but I can shoot 0-22 from 3, and I'll do it alot cheaper than those guys.
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          That's pretty amazing Kurt. I can see teams just sagging way off them and daring them to shoot. It's going to make the inside game a lot harder. I think I can go 0-22 also but it wouldn't be easy.
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          And...They only hit one jumper the entire game at all, with 38 seconds left. All their points came in the paint or from the FT line.

          The Nuggets are very deep and have 3-4 guys that can play but never get any time. We need to trade someone like Mosgov for a legit 3 point shooter. He doesn't play because Koufas and Javale Mcghee are playing pretty well and get the time. I'm sure some team can use a 7'1" guy that can run and give a solid 15-20 minutes a game.

          BTW, I don't mean to brag, but I can shoot 0-22 from 3, and I'll do it alot cheaper than those guys.
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    Lakers vs Warriors - What a game!
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    Steve Nash looked real good . He's a big focal point to the team.
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Steve Nash looked real good . He's a big focal point to the team.
      Few clutch shots too. Didn't really expect too much from him BUT he really did play well.

      Should be a good game against the Knicks now he's back. Hopefully not a repeat of what happened last time.
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    Nuggets whip the Lakers 126 - 114 in a rare home game. Ty Lawson again shows Nash can't cover him. Ty gets 17 points and 14 assists.

    Despite the Nuggets record, we're the only team in the NBA with just a single home loss. I can't wait until our schedule starts to even out.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Nuggets whip the Lakers 126 - 114 in a rare home game. Ty Lawson again shows Nash can't cover him. Ty gets 17 points and 14 assists.

      Despite the Nuggets record, we're the only team in the NBA with just a single home loss. I can't wait until our schedule starts to even out.
      Man Faried was unstoppable out there, it's like he was doing what he wanted.

      Then Brewer heats up and starts dropping 3's at will.

      I still have no idea what D'Antoni is doing, World Peace gets fouled out again, and there is no sign of Jamison? Seems like as soon as he got going, he just doesn't get the minutes any more.

      At least they got the W against the Knicks on Christmas..
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        He's playing small ball with Bryant playing forward. That's probably why the Lakers got out rebounded by 10. Jamison can score and rebound.
        Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post


        I still have no idea what D'Antoni is doing, World Peace gets fouled out again, and there is no sign of Jamison? Seems like as soon as he got going, he just doesn't get the minutes any more.
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      Yeah. Great game! That shot by Collison was amazing and that block and coast to coast dunk by Durant was incredible.
      Originally Posted by TeKn1qu3z View Post

      Any of you guys just watch the OKC vs Dallas game? That shot by Collison was ridiculous.
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        Barkley at halftime discussing the Lincoln movie: "Lincoln is my new favorite President. If it wasn't for him we would all still be calling Ernie Boss". LOL. He was referring to his fellow commentators Shaq, Kenny Smith and Ernie Johnson.
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          Well, Kurt's Nuggets and my Warriors bring the super hot Clippers down to earth with consecutive losses. The Warriors play them again in three days in LA and if I was a Clipper fan I would be worried. Griffin looks like an average player right now. Kind of in a slump. Or maybe just playing against better teams that are hot.

          By the way, David Lee is the only player in the league averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds! He's having a great year!
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Well, Kurt's Nugget's and my Warriors bring the super hot Clippers down to earth with consecutive losses. The Warriors play them again in three days in LA and if I was a Clipper fan I would be worried. Griffin looks like an average player right now. Kind of in a slump. Or maybe just playing against better teams that are hot.

            By the way, David Lee is the only player in the league averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds! He's having a great year!
            I had a feeling when Javale Mcghee hit the first 3 pointer of his career, it wasn't going to be the Clippers' night.

            And watch for the Nuggets to make a move this month. In Jan., we have 12 home games and only 3 on the road, finally getting to play some home games.
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              I noticed they have been shooting well also lately. We were kind of kidding about the Nuggets/Warriors matchup earlier but these two teams are going to be big trouble for other teams in the playoffs. Both are loaded with talent and are very youthful. Well coached also. Jackson has made me a believer.

              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              I had a feeling when Javale Mcghee hit the first 3 pointer of his career, it wasn't going to be the Clippers' night.

              And watch for the Nuggets to make a move this month. In Jan., we have 12 home games and only 3 on the road, finally getting to play some home games.
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    Nuggets lose at home to the Timberwolves a few nights ago in one of the worst performances of the year. They somewhat make up for it by going tacos against the Jazz.

    Better yet, the Nuggets go tacos against the Lakers in LA tonight, beating them 112-105 and once again proving that Nash can't defend Ty Lawson.

    Note: If the Nuggets score 110 points or more, local Taco Bells give 4 tacos for $1. I love it when the Nuggets are close to 110 points at home and the home crowd starts chanting "We Want Tacos!".
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      Nash has a lot of trouble with Lawson and a bunch of other people. I think the main problem with the Lakers though is: 1. Coach D'Antoni 2. Kobe Bryant. Well, you might want to add the owners son who making decisions now it seems.
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


      Better yet, the Nuggets go tacos against the Lakers in LA tonight, beating them 112-105 and once again proving that Nash can't defend Ty Lawson.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Nash has a lot of trouble with Lawson and a bunch of other people. I think the main problem with the Lakers though is: 1. Coach D'Antoni 2. Kobe Bryant. Well, you might want to add the owners son who making decisions now it seems.
        Let's add old and slow and no depth to their problems. They'll finish a few games above .500 a probably make the playoffs, but they aren't a serious threat.
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          Good additions, but the way they are now I don't see them making the playoffs. It's a beautiful thing to see.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Let's add old and slow and no depth to their problems. They'll finish a few games above .500 a probably make the playoffs, but they aren't a serious threat.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Nash has a lot of trouble with Lawson and a bunch of other people. I think the main problem with the Lakers though is: 1. Coach D'Antoni 2. Kobe Bryant. Well, you might want to add the owners son who making decisions now it seems.
          You are 100% right. Don't get me started on D'Antoni, and for Kobe - as much as I love him, sometimes he really hurts the team. With that being said, it's one of those things where you really cant criticise him that much, because at this point they're nothing without him.

          If only he'd play a little bit more D, and get back in transition instead of throwing his hands in the air and yelling at the officials. A little bit more ball passing too, but Kobe's always been a ball-hog.

          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Let's add old and slow and no depth to their problems. They'll finish a few games above .500 a probably make the playoffs, but they aren't a serious threat.
          I agree. How they're playing right now, just getting to the playoffs would be hard enough. In regards to the bench, Meeks is starting to annoy me. He's like Kobe 2.0 just no where near as good. Ball hog much? Also for a three point specialist he NEEDS to start making some of the wide open shots he's missing. Jamison? Well he had a good stretch for a while, now he's lucky to get 5 minutes a night. The only consistant player off the bench is Jordan Hill, who I have nothing but good words for.

          Still no solid roster, seems D'Antoni picks and choses.

          Unless something big happens, no way are they serious contenders and this is coming from a die hard Laker fan.
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            Yes, they would be terrible without him, but if they traded him they could get some good players and draft picks in return still. However, I'm not impressed with their depth so that kind of tells me the people who are judging talent aren't doing a good job and a trade might not work anyways.They miss someone like Jerry West who is a great judge of talent. He seems to have helped the Warriors in that department.
            Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

            With that being said, it's one of those things where you really cant criticise him that much, because at this point they're nothing without him.
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    That's to keep you guys awake on the east coast after watching the eastern conference games that put most watchers asleep by halftime. BTW, good win against the Heat.

    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Watched the battle of LA after the Bulls-Heat game. Why do games in the west look like Sunday afternoon run and gun at the YMCA?

    Just wondering.
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    Watched the battle of LA after the Bulls-Heat game. Why do games in the west look like Sunday afternoon run and gun at the YMCA?

    Just wondering.
    As opposed to the thug ball from brick city of the Eastern Conference?
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      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      So it's true what they say about the west coast.

      Not that there's anything wrong with that.
      I guess you might be correct, if Denver was on the West Coast. Look at a map much?
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        Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

        Close enough for me. Stuff probably spreads with contact.

        Imagine -- an entire conference where everyone plays like Nate Robinson.
        So ignorance is your "reasoning"? Oh well, if it makes you happy, as they say "ignorance is bliss".

        And I miss the ABA, where an entire LEAGUE played like Nate Robinson, except better. Dr J, David Thompson, George Gervin. Basketball was never better than that. Some of us think 110 points a game is LOW scoring. You would have had another conniption watching the ABA or Doug Moe's NBA teams.
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    Damn, keeps getting worse for the Lakers.

    Just in,

    Dwight, Hill and Gasol are all out with injuries, all three will miss the Houston and San Antonio games.

    Talk about getting kicked when your down..
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      Well, the good news for Kobe is he will get even more shots and have another chance at the scoring leader for the season. Sorry Josh. Do you have a second favorite team?
      Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

      Damn, keeps getting worse for the Lakers.

      Just in,

      Dwight, Hill and Gasol are all out with injuries, all three will miss the Houston and San Antonio games.

      Talk about getting kicked when your down..
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    as;lfjadlfjslfjadslfjdaslfj. -____-.

    The whole "age" factor is a bunch of BS. New York is an old team, look at them? Dallas won and they were an old team.

    Clearly, it's just a bunch of talented players meshed up in system that doesn't work for the them.

    Damn this. Anyways, go Seahawks/Ravens?
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    Damn, anyone catch the Spurs/Lakers game from the other night?

    What a game for Earl Clarke! The Lakers actually played with some passion for the final minutes that remained in the fourth quarter, at one point it looked like they could win (until Metta blew back to back possessions).

    If only they could play like that EVERY quarter. I'm sure Earl will get some more minutes against the Thunder tonight to see whether D'Antoni has really just been sleeping on him, or if it was in-fact a fluke.

    Quoting Mike himself - "I'm an idiot for not playing him" LOL!
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    I think this video pretty much sums up the Lakers this year. Nash: armpit/armpit, then Meta Tag uses the same towel on his face.

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    I caught it and it was a good game. Especially the result!

    The Spurs were just trying to give that game away and the Lakers still couldn't win. Sounds like the rest of the league should get ready for the greatness of Earl Clarke!

    Here's hoping for another loss tonight and further sliding under 500.
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    And my Nuggets go tacos against Tim's Warriors, 116 - 105 to beat the W's for the 3rd time this season. It would be the fourth if the last game was 1/10th of a second longer.
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      Yep. The Nuggets seem to have the W's number. The Warriors looked to be in control of the game at the end of the 3rd quarter and then they get blown out by 20 in the 4th!? Turrrible! as Barkley would say. I hope they don't meet in the playoffs.
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      And my Nuggets go tacos against Tim's Warriors, 116 - 105 to beat the W's for the 3rd time this season. It would be the fourth if the last game was 1/10th of a second longer.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yep. The Nuggets seem to have the W's number. The Warriors looked to be in control of the game at the end of the 3rd quarter and then they get blown out by 20 in the 4th!? Turrrible! as Barkley would say. I hope they don't meet in the playoffs.
        Lee outplayed Manimal for 3 1/2 quarters, but Faried got the best of Lee down the stretch.

        This could be a big win for the Nuggets as it gives us the tie breaker should we be tied for something like the 4th playoff spot.
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    Hey Tim...



    Better watch out, the Nuggets just caught the W's in the standings, with the Nuggets +7 in the Doug Moe system and the W's +5. Memphis is also +5 and in the 4th playoff spot.
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      Yeah, I am worried about the Nuggets. They are a solid team that gives the Warriors a hard time every time. I would rather face any other team in the playoffs except for the Spurs.

      By the way Kurt, I am dating a lady who is my dream match because, for one, she is a big time Warrior fan! She watches all the games on TV and if she can't watch them she listens to them. And she knows the game inside and out! Very knowledgeable about the NBA as a whole also.
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      Hey Tim...



      Better watch out, the Nuggets just caught the W's in the standings, with the Nuggets +7 in the Doug Moe system and the W's +5. Memphis is also +5 and in the 4th playoff spot.
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    Ahhh. I turned on the Laker game in the 4th just in time to see them blow a good sized lead and lose to the Suns. What a way to end the day.
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    Yup, and heres me thinking the Lakers finally turned it around with the emergence of Kobe Johnson..
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    My Nuggets SPANKED the Bulls 128 - 96 last night. Faried showed why he's called The Manimal, dominating Noah.

    BTW, anyone else notice the Nuggets are 15-3 in 2013?
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      I've noticed the Nuggets are ahead of the Warriors now, thanks to a 3 game losing streak by the Ws. I did notice the Nuggets easily beat the Bulls who destroyed the Warriors a couple weeks ago also. :/
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      My Nuggets SPANKED the Bulls 128 - 96 last night. Faried showed why he's called The Manimal, dominating Noah.

      BTW, anyone else notice the Nuggets are 15-3 in 2013?
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I've noticed the Nuggets are ahead of the Warriors now, thanks to a 3 game losing streak by the Ws. I did notice the Nuggets easily beat the Bulls who destroyed the Warriors a couple weeks ago also. :/
        The Nuggets have a shot to catch the Clippers for the #3 seed. If not, it looks like a 3 way fight for the #4 seed between Denver, GS and Memphis.

        I think your W's will edge out Memphis for #5. You've played quite a few more road games than they have. The Nuggets have the lead in the standings, plus the tie breaker against the W's.

        And...I still think Jerry West is the best GM of all time.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          My Warriors stunk it up again last night! Holy shit are they playing bad. Wow, how things can change in a couple weeks. It sucks because I have watched the last two games with my new girl friend who is a Warrior fanatic also. We both ended up yelling at the TV and being disgusted. She knows her basketball inside and out and is spot on in her criticism of them.

          Kurt, remember when the Nuggets couldn't make a three? Well, the Warriors can't seem to stop a three now. Or very few anyways. The Rockets tied the league three point record this last week against the Warriors with 23. At one point they made 17 of 23!!!! :/ The Rockets may have broken the record but Mark Jackson had his team intentionally foul the Rockets the last few plays of the game so they couldn't even get a three shot off. That was one of the finniest things I have seen in an NBA game in a while.

          I think they need the all start break to refocus and get back on track.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    The Nuggets are on fire right now. Watched the end of the game in Cleveland last night on NBA TV. Don't know why they're so good but they just keep winning. Warriors not looking good lately. Where's that road magic they had earlier?

    Hoping for a Miami Heat blowout over the Lakers today.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      That would help me deal with the warriors playing so bad. I do expect the Heat to blow them out. The Heat killed the Clippers two nights ago.

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      Hoping for a Miami Heat blowout over the Lakers today.
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      • Profile picture of the author Robert_Rand
        Lakers are such a disaster.

        The problem is clearly D'Antoni and Howard. I don't know how that isn't blatantly obvious to everyone. Howard is not going to get a ring, ever. Me, me, me players... Same thing with Carmelo Anthony... exactly the type of guys you don't want on your team

        And why would you pick up a coach like D'Antoni? You're the Lakers... pick someone who is young, hungry, and promising... like Phil Jackson was when he started with the Bulls... like Eric Spoelstra is... like Scott Brooks... OR... get a proven winner.

        At this point, it's difficult to see anything but a rematch of last year's finals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Well, it was a close game until the end then the Heat pulled away and Lebron is just a freak. Miami is on a roll now and if they play like this in the playoffs, it's another title for them.

    How about that 3OT game between Boston and Denver yesterday? Two hot teams going at it and the Celtics pulled it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Well, it was a close game until the end then the Heat pulled away and Lebron is just a freak. Miami is on a roll now and if they play like this in the playoffs, it's another title for them.

      How about that 3OT game between Boston and Denver yesterday? Two hot teams going at it and the Celtics pulled it out.
      The Nuggets didn't play well that game, but they did play hard. Gave the C's all they wanted, especially with the Nuggets coming off a back to back game, both on the road.

      BTW, the Celtics are playing much better without Rondo. Sometimes it's addition by subtraction.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        I keep on expecting the Celtics to fade but it looks like they will make the playoffs again. Kind of makes me think of the Spurs. Doc Rivers is a good coach and Pops is a great coach.
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


        BTW, the Celtics are playing much better without Rondo. Sometimes it's addition by subtraction.
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    Tim...

    What's up with the W's sleeved jerseys?
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      I have no idea Kurt. They look alright but am not sure they will catch on. Supposedly they are very light and comfortable. What do you think about how they look?
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      Tim...

      What's up with the W's sleeved jerseys?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    My Nuggets go tacos all over the Lakers 119-108, taking the season series 3-1...Hey Kobe, amnesty that!
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    • Profile picture of the author RichBeck
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      My Nuggets go tacos all over the Lakers 119-108, taking the season series 3-1...Hey Kobe, amnesty that!
      Kurt,

      I loved Faried dunking over Howard at the end....

      AWESOME!

      God Bless,

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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      My Nuggets go tacos all over the Lakers 119-108, taking the season series 3-1...Hey Kobe, amnesty that!
      Lakers rarely play well in Denver, even when they're good. No surprise there from me.

      2 wins 6 losses in the last 4 seasons in Denver, not counting the playoffs. You've got that Mile High advantage!
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Stephen Curry was as hot as anyone I have ever seen tonight. 54 points! He made 11 of 13 from beyond the arc! Most were several feet beyond too. Amazing shooting. Too bad nobody else on the team could shoot well. Warriors lost. By the way, Curry was hot last night also: 38 points and 7 of 10 from 3 point land. On fire! Another warrior loss also though. :/
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Stephen Curry was as hot as anyone I have ever seen tonight. 54 points! He made 11 of 13 from beyond the arc! Most were several feet beyond too. Amazing shooting. Too bad nobody else on the team could shoot well. Warriors lost. By the way, Curry was hot last night also: 38 points and 7 of 10 from 3 point land. On fire! Another warrior loss also though. :/
          I watched part of the game and was rooting for the W's to beat the NYK's. It seems most people like dunks, but I love watching a jump shooter get hot and Steph was HOT.

          In the second game of the double header, my Nuggets go tacos again, beating Portland in Portland, a place we haven't had much success lately. It was a close game the whole way and I'll take the win.
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          • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            I watched part of the game and was rooting for the W's to beat the NYK's. It seems most people like dunks, but I love watching a jump shooter get hot and Steph was HOT.

            In the second game of the double header, my Nuggets go tacos again, beating Portland in Portland, a place we haven't had much success lately. It was a close game the whole way and I'll take the win.
            I'm the same way. I'd much rather watch a jump shooter get hot than to watch a dunk.

            That has to be one of the best 50+ point performances in a while...a guy going 11/13 from behind the arc? It has to be.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Stephen Curry was as hot as anyone I have ever seen tonight. 54 points! He made 11 of 13 from beyond the arc! Most were several feet beyond too. Amazing shooting. Too bad nobody else on the team could shoot well. Warriors lost. By the way, Curry was hot last night also: 38 points and 7 of 10 from 3 point land. On fire! Another warrior loss also though. :/
          I caught that man, it was crazy. 85% from three? Thats better then a lot of peoples free throw percentage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I was checking the score as I have a rooting interest in seeing the Lakers miss the playoffs. NBA TV had Jazz/Celtics which was a great game. From the highlights, it looked like a dunkfest in Denver at the expense of the Lakers. I hear the Nuggets almost never lose at home. Now, let's go Houston!
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    Too bad for the lakers I wish it was still Phil Jackson who's coaching them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tomas Lodén
    The great ones don't need contests to prove that they are the best.

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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Going to see the Warriors play my team the Kings tonight. Hope both teams put on a great show. I was so sad to see the Lakers beat down in OKC last night. C'mon, Utah don't give up now!
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      That was a sloppy game but it had an exciting ending as most Ws and Kings games have been recently. Nice win for the Ws and its good to see Thompson make a game winning shot. Maybe that will get him back on track. He's been awful most of the year.
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Going to see the Warriors play my team the Kings tonight. Hope both teams put on a great show. I was so sad to see the Lakers beat down in OKC last night. C'mon, Utah don't give up now!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    C'mon Tim!

    We need the W's, Jazz and Rockets to keep winning so we can shut the Lakers out of the playoffs.

    Who would have thought during all the off-season hype about the Lakers being the best team in the West that the W's would have a better record?
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      The Ws have been struggling lately but are showing signs of getting back on track. You know I would love to see the Lakers not make the playoffs. They are going to have to scramble to make it. Even if they do make it to the 7th or 8th spot I can't see the Lakers beating the Spurs or the Thunder. Of course, the way the Ws are playing now I can't see them doing well in the playoffs either, although they still have time to get hot.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      C'mon Tim!

      We need the W's, Jazz and Rockets to keep winning so we can shut the Lakers out of the playoffs.

      Who would have thought during all the off-season hype about the Lakers being the best team in the West that the W's would have a better record?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        The Ws have been struggling lately but are showing signs of getting back on track. You know I would love to see the Lakers not make the playoffs. They are going to have to scramble to make it. Even if they do make it to the 7th or 8th spot I can't see the Lakers beating the Spurs or the Thunder. Of course, the way the Ws are playing now I can't see them doing well in the playoffs either, although they still have time to get hot.
        I read an article in the Denver Post about the 4 teams involved in the mega deal that included Dwight Howard. Of the 4 teams, only the Nuggets have a winning record and are in the playoffs as of now.

        We know how the Lakers are doing and Orlando isn't doing well either. And Doug Collins is totally frustrated in Philly as Bynum has yet to play.

        And even though I like Igoudala, I'm not sure we're really any better with him than we were last year. He's really struggled offensively this year. It's even affected his free throw shooting. In one game, not only did he air ball a free throw, he bricked another off the backboard. But, he's played well in all the other areas.

        PS. Making fun of the Lakers would be so much more fun with TL around.
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          No kidding. Funny, I see some of his old posts sometimes and it shows he is online here. I bet he thought a Championship was in the bag. haha.

          BTW, the Lakers have a fairly easy schedule the remaining way. It's going to be a race for the last two places.

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          PS. Making fun of the Lakers would be so much more fun with TL around.
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          • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            No kidding. Funny, I see some of his old posts sometimes and it shows he is online here. I bet he thought a Championship was in the bag. haha.

            BTW, the Lakers have a fairly easy schedule the remaining way. It's going to be a race for the last two places.
            Yeah "fairly easy" that's what they said about the Hornets game last night....
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Man, what a great game last night between the Warriors and Kings. It was LOUD at the end. Didn't need to hear the "lets go Sonics" chants though! That's just wrong!

    Was hoping to get a pleasant surprise with the Hornets beating the Lakers but the 83-2 run they went on in the 4th squashed that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    My Nuggets have been playing very well lately. After whipping the Clips by 15, we're on a 7 game winning streak.

    Just before this, we had a 9 game streak followed by a small stretch were we went 1-3 on the road. Even during that stretch we played well, losing one game at Boston in triple OT and another by a single point.

    The sad part is, it's still OKC, SA and Miami. Denver, IND, Memphis and the Clippers are merely the best of the rest.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Warriors lost to Houston at home tonight. They are still not playing well at all. It's mostly bad offense and just sloppy all around play. At least they are playing aggressive defense. I can't see them doing too well in the playoffs the way they are playing now, if they even make the playoffs that is.

      Interesting game tonight: The Trailblazers give the Spurs their worst lost at home in the Tim Duncan era and their second worst lost ever at home! 136 to 106. Lillard had another great game and should be ROTY.

      Plus, Deron Williams broke the NBA record for 3s in a half with 9!
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Kobe at 34, has been AMAZING. Wow. Two games in a row 40+ points and 12 assist. In addition to that, his late game performance. Woowwww
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Kobe at 34, has been AMAZING. Wow. Two games in a row 40+ points and 12 assist. In addition to that, his late game performance. Woowwww
      Hit some big shots to keep us in that one, I swear these past few games have been really bad for my health..
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by Josh Monroe View Post

        Hit some big shots to keep us in that one, I swear these past few games have been really bad for my health..
        Yeah we shouldn't be having close games like that to these crappy teams. They are EXCITING though. But still.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Memphis has to be the most under-the-radar team in the NBA. My Nuggets have won 10 straight and haven't really gained any ground on Memphis.

    I think the Grizzlies are something like 12-1 since trading Rudy Gay. This seems to be another case of "addition by subtraction".
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Yeah, they are a solid talented team with a great frontcourt. Should be a good game tonight in Denver!

      Hey Kurt. Do you remember the Lakers winning 33 in a row in 72? I remember that streak. It looks like The Heat could beat it. The rest of their schedule looks pretty soft with only a couple tough games. I do hope somebody steps up, has a great game and beats them. Maybe the Spurs.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Memphis has to be the most under-the-radar team in the NBA. My Nuggets have won 10 straight and haven't really gained any ground on Memphis.

      I think the Grizzlies are something like 12-1 since trading Rudy Gay. This seems to be another case of "addition by subtraction".
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yeah, they are a solid talented team with a great frontcourt. Should be a good game tonight in Denver!

        Hey Kurt. Do you remember the Lakers winning 33 in a row in 72? I remember that streak. It looks like The Heat could beat it. The rest of their schedule looks pretty soft with only a couple tough games. I do hope somebody steps up, has a great game and beats them. Maybe the Spurs.
        Yeah, I remember the Lakers streak. If I remember correctly, the year before the Lew Alcindor led Bucks broke the win streak record with something like 22 straight games, then the Lakers shattered that with the 33 game streak.

        You have to give Lebron credit. He's playing at an incredible level.

        It should also be noted that the Grizzlies have the best Gasol in the NBA.
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    Nuggets win a BIG game over the Grizzlies, who had won 14 out of 15 coming in. Not only is the win big, but it gives the Nuggest the tie breaker over the Griz, winning the season series 3-1.

    During our 11 game winning streak, we've beaten the Clippers, OKC, Memphis and NYK. Like the home crowd chanted during the Knicks game:

    Who Needs Melo!
    Who Needs Melo!
    Who Needs Melo!

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Good win Kurt! Yeah, your team is playing really well. I wish I could say the same about my Warriors. Another terrible game tonight. Their worst at home for sure as the Bulls destroy them for the second time this year two days after the Bulls were destroyed by the Kings. :/ To be honest, the Ws don't look like a playoff team now. I'm not sure if they can turn it around. They have been in a bad funk for about two months I would say and I am starting to question Jackson as a coach again.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Good win Kurt! Yeah, your team is playing really well. I wish I could say the same about my Warriors. Another terrible game tonight. Their worst at home for sure as the Bulls destroy them for the second time this year two days after the Bulls were destroyed by the Kings. :/ To be honest, the Ws don't look like a playoff team now. I'm not sure if they can turn it around. They have been in a bad funk for about two months I would say and I am starting to question Jackson as a coach again.
        Hang in there Tim, I'm rooting for you!

        The good news is that using the Doug Moe system of Road Wins - Home Losses, you're a +5 while the Lakers are only +2. The Jazz are also +2. Houston is the team to watch, as they are also +5.

        That will be an interesting race. Also interesting is the race for the #3, 4 and 5 seeds in the West. The Nuggets are a 1/2 game behind both the Clippers and Grizzlies, but the Nuggets have the tie breaker against both teams.

        Nuggets are +12, as are the Clippers. Memphis is +11.

        We have two tough games coming up: At Chicago and at OKC. I'm hoping for a split.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tomas Lodén
    Heat overmatch Bucks as win streak soars to 21.. LeBron James and Chris Bosh combined to score 56 points as the Heat defeated the Bucks 107-94.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Some great games and fantastic finishes tonight. The Heat extend the winning streak to 23 with a win in Boston and the Nuggets pull out a win in OT against the Bulls. Tough call but clearly basket interference by Noah nullifying a potential game winner. And why were the Bulls wearing Celtics uniforms and why were the Nuggets wearing Warriors uniforms?

    A great night in the NBA capped off by a Lakers blow out in Phoenix.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Yes, a good night except for the Heat winning. The Warriors are giving me hope with their last two road wins. Some of their best defense all year led by Bogut in the middle and good shooting also. I wish the Nuggets and the Heat would play now. They are two hot teams. Boston blew it tonight!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      And why were the Bulls wearing Celtics uniforms
      Because the Bulls were celebrating St Patty's day a day late.

      and why were the Nuggets wearing Warriors uniforms?
      Because those are the Nuggets "alternative" jerseys and actually are a throwback using the Denver "skyline" design of the 1980s. "Alternative" jerseys make fans buy another jersey. It's all marketing.

      Nuggets are red hot. We won 9 in a row. Then lost 3 out of 4 when both Galo and Igoudala were hurt, and now have won another 12 in a row. IOW, we've won 22 out of our last 25, only losing when we were missing two starters. And we're doing it without a single all star.

      ...But the Grizzlies keep winning too, so we still haven't caught them. That team gets no respect.

      I think the Nuggets will have a tough time tonight in OKC, with the game being the second of a back to back on the road.
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    Yes, I was just messing around. I figured they were alternates but I've never seen the Green unis worn by the Bulls. Just doesn't look right. The Kings have terrible road alts this year with checkerboard patterns down the sides. Almost worse than their play on the court.

    Tough one in OKC tonight. Don't see Denver winning, but should be high scoring and entertaining. Have to admit I can't name a player on the Nuggets yet they're one of the best teams in the West this year.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


      I think the Nuggets will have a tough time tonight in OKC, with the game being the second of a back to back on the road.
      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Tough one in OKC tonight. Don't see Denver winning, but should be high scoring and entertaining. Have to admit I can't name a player on the Nuggets yet they're one of the best teams in the West this year.
      Nuggets beat OKC in OKC by 10 points, extending their winning streak to 13. I'll take it! And 8 of the 13 wins are against teams that would be in the playoffs as of now.

      This is the second time the Nuggets beat OKC during the streak and win the season series 3-1.

      The Nuggets are also 3-1, and hold the tie breaker, against the Clippers, Grizzlies, Houston and Golden State, the teams closest in the playoff standings.
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  • I was a Miami fan until the playoffs.. I stopped watching basketball last year after all the bad calls the refs made against OKC. Just seems like basketball is rigged nowadays.
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      Originally Posted by Thecostofexperience View Post

      I was a Miami fan until the playoffs.. I stopped watching basketball last year after all the bad calls the refs made against OKC. Just seems like basketball is rigged nowadays.
      Yupp!

      The amount of travels LeBron gets away with, and the amount of "foul calls" he gets given his way is ridicoulous. LeBron should be thanking the officials for the ring he got last year, they pretty much handed it to him - either that or he's got them on the pay roll
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Memphis is one team not being talked about...another is the Spurs. Even with the Heat's 23 game winning streak, the Heat and the Spurs have basically the same record. And, the Spurs are playing in the West.

    I wonder if the Heat would have their winning streak if they were playing in the West, where 5 of the top 6 teams in the NBA are?
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Memphis is one team not being talked about...another is the Spurs. Even with the Heat's 23 game winning streak, the Heat and the Spurs have basically the same record. And, the Spurs are playing in the West.

      I wonder if the Heat would have their winning streak if they were playing in the West, where 5 of the top 6 teams in the NBA are?
      Nice win against OKC
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I really doubt it. Boston almost beat them without Garnet or Rondo. I think the Spurs will play them before they reach the record but the Heat have the easiest remaining schedule in the league I believe.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


      I wonder if the Heat would have their winning streak if they were playing in the West, where 5 of the top 6 teams in the NBA are?
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Yes, big win for Denver in OKC. Didn't realize they won the season series. The Nuggets are a bad matchup for the Thunder.

    Warriors in San Antonio tonight where they haven't won in years. The Kings beat the Clippers last night, didn't see that coming.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    #14 in a row for the Nuggets, as we stole this game. Down by 5 with 14 seconds left, somehow we pulled it out. This win was border-line miraculous, out-scoring the 76ers 11-2 to end the game and win by 1.

    Ty "Ty-No-Mite" Lawson and Wilson "Ill Will" Chandler were both out with injuries and the 76ers outplayed the very sluggish Nuggets for 47 minutes. But we didn't give up and the game had one of the most exciting finishes I can remember.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      #14 in a row for the Nuggets, as we stole this game. Down by 5 with 14 seconds left, somehow we pulled it out. This win was border-line miraculous, out-scoring the 76ers 11-2 to end the game and win by 1.

      Ty "Ty-No-Mite" Lawson and Wilson "Ill Will" Chandler were both out with injuries and the 76ers outplayed the very sluggish Nuggets for 47 minutes. But we didn't give up and the game had one of the most exciting finishes I can remember.
      No Kudos For Corey Brewer,Kurt?

      I am glad to see him doing well,he was one of my favorite players on the Gator championship teams of '06 & '07. Him and Al Horford.
      Couldn't stand (and still can't) Noah.

      NCAA Tourney= GO GATORS!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        No Kudos For Corey Brewer,Kurt?

        I am glad to see him doing well,he was one of my favorite players on the Gator championship teams of '06 & '07. Him and Al Horford.
        Couldn't stand (and still can't) Noah.

        NCAA Tourney= GO GATORS!
        Corey Brewer pretty much won the game single handedly for the Nuggets. He scored the final 6 points in 14 seconds on a 3 pointer, then was fouled on a 3 and hit all 3 free throws.

        Plus, he had a career high 29 for the game and was pretty much the only Nugget that played with any energy.

        On the local TV broadcast he was the Player of the Game and got a HUGE ovation from the crowd when he was interviewed immediately following the game.

        A side note...a 76er player (I forgot) that shoots 76% missed two free throws in the closing seconds. Brewer, who shoots 67%, hit all 3 free throws after being fouled on a 3 pointer. Strange things happen.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Damn! I would have loved to have seen that game Kurt. I bet there will be a youtube video of the last minute or two if there isn't already!

          I can't recall two teams having long winning streaks at the same time like this.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Damn! I would have loved to have seen that game Kurt. I bet there will be a youtube video of the last minute or two if there isn't already!

            I can't recall two teams having long winning streaks at the same time like this.
            Actually, as a Nugget fan it was a very frustrating game until the final 2 minutes. I almost turned it off a number of times. I feel sorry for Doug Collins in the post game interview. he brought up 5 mistakes his team made in the final minute that allowed the Nuggets to win. The "reporters" seemed to be trying to make it his fault, as if he should have coached better.

            I believe this is the first time in NBA history that two teams have had 13+ game win streaks at the same time.

            Wasn't David Lee also a team mate of Corey Brewer, Al Horford and Noah for a year at FLA? Not a bad team.

            OKC just isn't the same without James Harden. Martin is a good scorer, but he's a jump shooter while Harden takes the ball to the hoop. Harden is also a much better defender.

            I like the Spurs alot, but I hear Tony Parker is hurt and he was playing at an MVP level.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Wasn't David Lee also a team mate of Corey Brewer, Al Horford and Noah for a year at FLA? Not a bad team.
              Yes, in Lee's senior year and the other 3's freshmen year. Lee missed out on the Championships.

              OKC just isn't the same without James Harden. Martin is a good scorer, but he's a jump shooter while Harden takes the ball to the hoop. Harden is also a much better defender.
              Harden is definitely a better player. I heard the Warriors could have had him for Klay Thompson and they turned it down. :/ If that is true it's one of the dumbest non moves in recent history.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Finally, the Lakers will have Pau and Kobe back in the line up. *sigh*.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Tonight's game against the Kings may not be as easy as some think as the Kings have been playing a lot better since the Patterson trade. Could be a close game.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Well, 15 in a row now by the Nuggets! They have not only caught up to and passed Memphis finally, they have also passed the Clippers!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The Nuggets streak ends at 15. NO played very well and the Nugs were sluggish again. These past few games really show how valuable Ty Lawson is to the Nuggets, who has been out.

    A little trivia: The 15 game streak ties the fanchise record set back in 1969-1970 when the Nuggets were the Denver Rockets of the ABA. That year, the Denver Rockets were lead by 20 year old Spencer Haywood, who averaged 30 points and almost 20 rebounds a game. Haywood's 19.5 rebounds per game is the ABA record.

    Things don't get easier for the Nuggets, as their next game is in SA against the Spurs. Hopefully Ty Lawson will return soon. We're just not the same without him.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      That's too bad Kurt, but it was an amazing run for the Nuggets and they are a team to be reckoned with in the playoffs.

      Now I just hope someone beats the Heat before they break the record. The Bulls and the Spurs should have a good shot. I feel kind of weird rooting against the Heat since they will break the Lakers record and the Lakers are my NBA nemesis, but that record is something special and I'm just not sure I want the Heat to have instead of the team that included Wilt the Stilt, The Logo, Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich, etc... That was a hell of a team! Are the Heat as good? I don't think so.
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      The Nuggets streak ends at 15. NO played very well and the Nugs were sluggish again. These past few games really show how valuable Ty Lawson is to the Nuggets, who has been out.

      A little trivia: The 15 game streak ties the fanchise record set back in 1969-1970 when the Nuggets were the Denver Rockets of the ABA. That year, the Denver Rockets were lead by 20 year old Spencer Haywood, who averaged 30 points and almost 20 rebounds a game. Haywood's 19.5 rebounds per game is the ABA record.

      Things don't get easier for the Nuggets, as their next game is in SA against the Spurs. Hopefully Ty Lawson will return soon. We're just not the same without him.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        That's too bad Kurt, but it was an amazing run for the Nuggets and they are a team to be reckoned with in the playoffs.

        Now I just hope someone beats the Heat before they break the record. The Bulls and the Spurs should have a good shot. I feel kind of weird rooting against the Heat since they will break the Lakers record and the Lakers are my NBA nemesis, but that record is something special and I'm just not sure I want the Heat to have instead of the team that included Wilt the Stilt, The Logo, Elgin Baylor, Gail Goodrich, etc... That was a hell of a team! Are the Heat as good? I don't think so.
        Hey Tim,

        The Spurs have a good shot against the Heat (and my Nuggets). Even with the Heat winning 26 in a row, they're still only about a game ahead of the Spurs, record wise.

        BTW, if my memory is correct, Elgin Baylor wasn't on that Laker team, having retired in the off season before.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    And Tim...one more thing.

    Good job on handing the Lakers their 3rd straight loss.
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    • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      And Tim...one more thing.

      Good job on handing the Lakers their 3rd straight loss.
      Man, that game was terrible.

      At one point in the fourth it looked like they had a chance to come back like they did the last time they met, but not this time.

      Fairly decent attempt at at a comeback but as usual its too late. If they can get a come back like that going, they shouldn't be in that position to begin with.

      And another thing, everyone wants Pau back, until he's back..The amount of times he missed open jump shots or even passed on open looks was ridiculous.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Yes, too bad the Nuggets ended their streak. The Hornets have been playing better lately along with the Kings and Wizards.

    Loved the Warriors dominance of the Lakers last night. I don't care what anyone says Dwight Howard is no where near the best center in the league. He's slow and appears to half ass it most of the time. Got close in the end but it never looked like the Warriors would lose that game.

    I think Dallas has a good shot at the last playoff spot. Hopefully the Lakers will drop another few games. Utah is toast.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    GRRRRRRR!

    Ty Lawson's "bruised" heal is really a "a complete plantar fascia tear" and he could be out for an extended period of time.

    After watching the games without him, he's easily the Nuggets MVP. We just aren't the same team without him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sumit Menon
    I know, I haven't been here in a long time, but just watched the Mavs game. Mavs did a 15-1 run at the end with Dirk making a 3pt shot with like 4 seconds to go. If we beat the Lakers, we might just make the playoffs!
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Didn't see the Mavs game but glad they won. Rooting for Dallas and Utah wins to knock the Lakers out of the playoffs. Hopefully the Kings can do their part today.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Good news: Nuggets beat Jazz and Mavs, helping Tim's Ws playoff chances. Nuggets have Houston next.

    Bad News: Not only is Ty Lawson out (our best player), our second best player Danilo Gallinari was injured with what looks like a serious knee injury. Not what I was hoping for heading into the playoffs. GRRRRRRR!
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Wow! That is bad news. Sorry to hear that Kurt.
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      Bad News: Not only is Ty Lawson out (our best player), our second best player Danilo Gallinari was injured with what looks like a serious knee injury. Not what I was hoping for heading into the playoffs. GRRRRRRR!
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        The Nuggets are impressive. They get their two top scorers hurt and they still crush the Rockets last night. The Warriors are likely to be playing the Nuggets in the 1st round and I still think it's going to very difficult to beat the Nuggets in a series even without Lawson and Gallinari.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          The Nuggets are impressive. They get their two top scorers hurt and they still crush the Rockets last night. The Warriors are likely to be playing the Nuggets in the 1st round and I still think it's going to very difficult to beat the Nuggets in a series even without Lawson and Gallinari.
          There's a decent chance Lawson will be back by then. IMO, Lawson is more important than Gallo. But Gallo has hit some really big shots this year. The local broadcast team has nicknamed him "The Big Game Hunter". He can be 3 of 17, then hit the big game shot.

          But, Wilson "Ill Will" Chandler is a really good player and not sure we lost much if he starts instead of Gallo. The problem is, our bench gets a little thinner.

          No offense Tim, but I would rather play your Ws than either the Clippers or especially Memphis. Memphis is a tough team. The Nuggest keep winning but can't pull away from Memphis.

          As division leaders, the Clippers can't finish lower than 4th, but I think they still need a better record than their opponent to get home court, despite their higher seeded. It's really confusing how the NBA does it now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Yes, looks like a torn ACL from the rumors last night. Don't mind Denver winning but they also knocked Utah down a notch and Lakers back in the 8th spot. Hopefully, all will get rectified tonight!
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  • Profile picture of the author IMHypeless
    Nuggets are hot topic lately and I'm glad to see them doing well. Many are comparing them to 2004 Pistons and I can see why, though I think they are playing more exciting, fast paced basketball. I actually like that type of teams and I actually hope Nuggets make a decent run into playoffs.

    I'd actually like to see Spurs get their final championship in Timmey era, but that won't happen, they are too old, burdened with injuries. If not sooner, OKC will beat them in finals again...and then we have a repeat from last year MIA-OKC, with Miami winning. Which is OK by me, I kinda like LBJ now (wasn't a fan of him before) and Miami as a team looks so well rounded and powerful atm.

    Although, it will be interesting to see how they do against NYK, if they face-off in the conference finals, it should be an awesome series.

    While I do believe Miami will defend, I'm still looking forward to playoffs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    The Nuggets beat the Spurs by 10, despite being down 14-0 to start the game. This ties the season series with the Spurs 2-2.

    What's interesting is, other than tying Spurs, the Nuggets have won the season series against every other team in playoff contention in the West.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I watched some of the second half. Nuggets looking good against an always tough Spurs team. Warriors playing better now finally. Should be a good series if they end up playing each other. Can't wait for the playoffs!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I watched some of the second half. Nuggets looking good against an always tough Spurs team. Warriors playing better now finally. Should be a good series if they end up playing each other. Can't wait for the playoffs!
        I can't wait either. A Nuggets/Warriors matchup would be fun and probably high-scoring.

        How long has it been since the Ws made the playoffs?

        BTW, during the local broadcast they gave a stat the the Spurs have won more than 50% of their road games for the 15th straight year. That's a very impressive stat.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Not since 2007 and it's only the 2nd time in the last 19 years! It's been hard to be a Warrior fan.
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


          How long has it been since the Ws made the playoffs?
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    • Profile picture of the author IMHypeless
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      The Nuggets beat the Spurs by 10, despite being down 14-0 to start the game. This ties the season series with the Spurs 2-2.

      What's interesting is, other than tying Spurs, the Nuggets have won the season series against every other team in playoff contention in the West.
      Just watched the replay, impressive. George Karl is one of the most underappreciated coaches. I'm not even mad they beat my favorite team (since 90's Bulls), they are just so fun to watch and easy to like.

      Oh...and dat Kobe. I was never a fan of his nor Lakers, but you have to respect the guy for his unrelenting will to win. 34 years old, god-knows how many injuries, still manages to score 47 in clutch game like that.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Not since 2007 and it's only the 2nd time in the last 19 years! It's been hard to be a Warrior fan.
    Not easy being a Kings fan either. We get to find out next week if the team is staying in Sacramento or being sold to an ownership group moving them to Seattle. Talk about tension!

    Nuggets almost have the top spot in the West. Pretty amazing. Utah still has a good chance of knocking the Lakers out of the playoffs. Next week will be fun.
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Oh...and dat Kobe. I was never a fan of his nor Lakers, but you have to respect the guy for his unrelenting will to win. 34 years old, god-knows how many injuries, still manages to score 47 in clutch game like that.
    KOBE! (swissh)

    Damn, the Mamba went all out in that game.

    It was a GREAT game to watch from an offensive point of view, with a few defensive highlights to top it off.

    Love him or hate him, like you say you can't deny his talent.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Very disappointing Warrior effort tonight against the Thunder. They laid an egg as Don Nelson would say after a bad defeat. Bogut is hurt again also. Geesh, I thought they had this stuff behind them.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Very disappointing Warrior effort tonight against the Thunder. They laid an egg as Don Nelson would say after a bad defeat. Bogut is hurt again also. Geesh, I thought they had this stuff behind them.
        To take the next step, I think you really need Bogut to give you some sort of inside presence.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          One reason I hate the Lakers is because they have the refs on their side so often. Tonight is a good example. The Lakers shot 50 free throws to the warriors 16 and win by 2. And it wasn't because the Lakers deserved all those free throws. This was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. One example: late in the 4th quarter Blake has the ball and gets a pick from Howard and Curry goes around the pick with a little bit of contact. First of all, the pick was probably illegal as Howard extended his leg right in front of Curry. So Howard initiated the contact. Second of all, there was very little contact. It really wouldn't have been called a foul 95% of the time. Third of all, Blake was the one who shot the free throws. Blake wasn't touched on the play. This was only one of the truly terrible and one sided calls. I guess some refs are still betting on games.
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          • Profile picture of the author edlewis
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            One reason I hate the Lakers is because they have the refs on their side so often. Tonight is a good example. The Lakers shot 50 free throws to the warriors 16 and win by 2. And it wasn't because the Lakers deserved all those free throws. This was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. One example: late in the 4th quarter Blake has the ball and gets a pick from Howard and Curry goes around the pick with a little bit of contact. First of all, the pick was probably illegal as Howard extended his leg right in front of Curry. So Howard initiated the contact. Second of all, there was very little contact. It really wouldn't have been called a foul 95% of the time. Third of all, Blake was the one who shot the free throws. Blake wasn't touched on the play. This was only one of the truly terrible and one sided calls. I guess some refs are still betting on games.
            You are 100% right...

            That call alone proved to me that something was up. I still don't understand how Steve Blake ends up at the FT line. It should've been an illegal screen on Howard, his 6th foul...maybe you can say it's a foul on Curry with Howard shooting the FT's....but how Blake winds up shooting FT's makes no sense.

            NONE.

            It's why I stopped watching the NBA...like a soap opera for men. It's like the WWE just without the steroids.
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              Originally Posted by edlewis View Post

              You are 100% right...

              That call alone proved to me that something was up. I still don't understand how Steve Blake ends up at the FT line. It should've been an illegal screen on Howard, his 6th foul...maybe you can say it's a foul on Curry with Howard shooting the FT's....but how Blake winds up shooting FT's makes no sense.

              NONE.

              It's why I stopped watching the NBA...like a soap opera for men. It's like the WWE just without the steroids.
              DERZ NO ROIDZ IN WWE!!!


              But yeah, Lakers in playoffs is good for business. They're a huge market, huge draw, they bring the ratings...and business is rarely fair. It sucks, not a big fan of them, BUT...I really feel sorry for Kobe, he's a true warrior. Don't like him, but gosh darn it, I respect him.

              I read he might miss majority of next season. If true, that really sucks, although since it's Kobe, he'll probably recover sooner.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kurt
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            One reason I hate the Lakers is because they have the refs on their side so often. Tonight is a good example. The Lakers shot 50 free throws to the warriors 16 and win by 2. And it wasn't because the Lakers deserved all those free throws. This was one of the worst officiated games I have ever seen. One example: late in the 4th quarter Blake has the ball and gets a pick from Howard and Curry goes around the pick with a little bit of contact. First of all, the pick was probably illegal as Howard extended his leg right in front of Curry. So Howard initiated the contact. Second of all, there was very little contact. It really wouldn't have been called a foul 95% of the time. Third of all, Blake was the one who shot the free throws. Blake wasn't touched on the play. This was only one of the truly terrible and one sided calls. I guess some refs are still betting on games.
            Kobe and Timmy are the two most protected players in the NBA.

            ESPN said Kobe is out with an achilles tear?
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              I think it's more of a Laker/LA thing. They want the Lakers in the playoffs and want them to go as far as they can when they get there. Another foul against the Warriors was a pure steal by Curry. He just grabbed it straight out of Howard's hands and they called a foul. Another one showed World Peace getting a rebound, sticking his other arm back and around Landry ( or maybe Ezili ) and pulling them forward. Of course they called the foul against the warriors. Many more examples. It was too bad the refs messed the game up because Curry had a terrific game.

              I'm not sure what happened to Kobe but it looked like it was serious. His legs are giving out I think. Three different times he went down and was in pain for different parts of his legs. Getting old sucks.

              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Kobe and Timmy are the two most protected players in the NBA.

              ESPN said Kobe is out with an achilles tear?
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              • Profile picture of the author edlewis
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                I think it's more of a Laker/LA thing. They want the Lakers in the playoffs and want them to go as far as they can when they get there. Another foul against the Warriors was a pure steal by Curry. He just grabbed it straight out of Howard's hands and they called a foul. Another one showed World Peace getting a rebound, sticking his other arm back and around Landry ( or maybe Ezili ) and pulling them forward. Of course they called the foul against the warriors. Many more examples. It was too bad the refs messed the game up because Curry had a terrific game.

                I'm not sure what happened to Kobe but it looked like it was serious. His legs are giving out I think. Three different times he went down and was in pain for different parts of his legs. Getting old sucks.
                Yeah...looks like Achilles for Kobe. I'm not a Kobe fan, but the guy is a warrior...so I respect that.

                Steph Curry is so much fun to watch. My kind of player...

                I know I'm getting old because the very first NBA game to I went to live his dad Dell was playing. It was a Cavs-Pistons(Bad Boys) game at the old Richfield Coliseum....

                If Golden State and Denver wind up playing in Round 1 of the Playoffs...it should be an entertaining series to say the least...
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Honestly, I dont remember the last time I cried but after watching Kobe's post game interview, it had me tearing up.

    To come this far and have that happen, you gotta give it to the man. Sinks two free throws before exiting the game with a torn achilles..

    He gave that game everything......

    I think I'll go back to crying now...




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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    As much as I don't like Kobe, I hate seeing any player get hurt. The Lakers have had a really tough year with inuries.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Well, the Lakers have two tough games left, Spurs and Rockets, and are ahead of the Jazz by 1 game. The Jazz have one tough game, Memphis, and one fairly easy one, Timberwolves. So it will likely come down to the last day to see who gets the 8th spot. Season ends Wednesday.
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      • Profile picture of the author edlewis
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Well, the Lakers have two tough games left, Spurs and Rockets, and are ahead of the Jazz by 1 game. The Jazz have one tough game, Memphis, and one fairly easy one, Timberwolves. So it will likely come down to the last day to see who gets the 8th spot. Season ends Wednesday.
        Off the top of your head, do you happen to know who has the tie-breaker in that situation?

        I haven't watched much ESPN lately...and only turned on the Lakers-Warriors game last night because I saw Curry had 32 at the HALF.

        It probably won't matter anyway...whoever gets it probably loses to OKC in 5. I'm willing to give Utah or LA one game in that series just because of home court.

        On the business side of things, the 2 extra home games....likely sell-outs...can really help an NBA teams bottom line.

        A buddy of mine from college works in an NBA front office and says many teams can run some tight budgets, especially with the new CBA and luxury tax.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Just checked because I wondering the same thing. It looks like the Jazz won the season series 2 to 1.
          Originally Posted by edlewis View Post

          Off the top of your head, do you happen to know who has the tie-breaker in that situation?
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  • Profile picture of the author Josh Monroe
    Yup Utah have the tie braker, and word just in from Gary Vitti Kobe is out for at least 6-9 months with a Third Degree Achilles tendon rupture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    What a game last night and yes, a badly officiated game. Warriors could have easily won. Kobe is done for a while and you have to wonder if he'll play at all even next year. I don't feel sorry for the Lakers though. Utah should grab that last spot now, especially since they own the tie breaker.
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    Hey Tim....

    Looks like it's me and you.

    It should be a fun series...good luck.

    Th injury bug has really hit us. Kenneth Faried has been out with a sprained ankle. He's expected to return soon, but it will be interesting to see how well he can play.

    The good news is, Ty Lawson looks like he's healthy and ready to go.

    And, last year I brought up Kenneth Faried as a rookie to look out for...seems we have another this year. Evan Fournier is a 20 year old rookie from France that hasn't gotten much of a chance to play until lately, due to the Nuggets injuries. But, he's looked very good. George Karl has said all year he liked Fournier, but we haven't been able to see it until now. Fournier is being compared to Manu Ginobili.

    BTW, we were 38-3 at home this year and are on a 23 game winning streak at home.

    Go Nuggets!
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I hope it is a good series Kurt. It will be a tough one for the Warriors. Curry has been super hot lately, hopefully some of the other guys will give him some help.

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Hey Tim....

      Looks like it's me and you.

      It should be a fun series...good luck.

      Th injury bug has really hit us. Kenneth Faried has been out with a sprained ankle. He's expected to return soon, but it will be interesting to see how well he can play.

      The good news is, Ty Lawson looks like he's healthy and ready to go.

      And, last year I brought up Kenneth Faried as a rookie to look out for...seems we have another this year. Evan Fournier is a 20 year old rookie from France that hasn't gotten much of a chance to play until lately, due to the Nuggets injuries. But, he's looked very good. George Karl has said all year he liked Fournier, but we haven't been able to see it until now. Fournier is being compared to Manu Ginobili.

      BTW, we were 38-3 at home this year and are on a 23 game winning streak at home.

      Go Nuggets!
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    lakers got seventh seed and will play san antonio on the 21st. Tough road for LA. But that should be better than OKC in the first round.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Warriors/Denver should be a good series, although I definitely see Denver coming out on top. Nobody was talking about the Nuggets this year, and yet quietly they almost grabbed the top spot in the West.

    Lakers end up with the 7th seed after all that! Well, they had a lot of help with that too. The series with the Spurs could go for a while as SA tends to drop games in the first round. They should advance though.

    OKC/Houston will be intriguing with Harden playing his former team. Not really interested in the East playoffs as we all know who will be in the Finals.

    And for the Kings, the wait continues...
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    I'm looking forward to seeing a good series between OKC and Houston, but honestly the best match up in the west will be the second round imo.

    OKC vs Clippers, should be an exciting one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Good game Tim. I don't think either team played well, but both played hard.

    The Nuggets bench was the difference, with the Old Man Andre Miller killing it in the 4th. You hear about playing above the rim, but Miller gets it done below the net.

    Hopefully Lee and Faried will both be back Tuesday. I hate injuries.
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      I missed the game Kurt. We taped it and were just starting to watch it later when someone walked in and said "Warriors lost by 2". What a spoiler. But actually it's a good thing I didn't watch. They didn't play all that well and Lee got injured and is out of the playoffs. :/ It's going to real difficult now.
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
        As an Orlando Tragic fan, It pains me to say this...

        No matter who wins the west, there is no match for the Heat.

        Fun games to watch so far,though.

        Brooklyn surprised me. Nuggets look tough.

        Oh yeah, whoever vs. The LA Fakers, please humiliate them.
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          Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

          As an Orlando Tragic fan, It pains me to say this...

          No matter who wins the west, there is no match for the Heat.

          Fun games to watch so far,though.

          Brooklyn surprised me. Nuggets look tough.

          Oh yeah, whoever vs. The LA Fakers, please humiliate them.
          I'll stand by my earlier prediction
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          • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
            Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

            I'll stand by my earlier prediction


            As a Laker fan I understand your jealousy regarding the 2nd most successful franchise in NBA history.

            I'm guessing it all started when Shaq opted to leave sleepy Orlando for the bright lights of the city of angels.


            Get over it or better yet, stew in your own anti-Laker juices cause WE LOVE IT!


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            • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
              Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

              As a Laker fan I understand your jealousy regarding the 2nd most successful franchise in NBA history.

              I'm guessing it all started when Shaq opted to leave sleepy Orlando for the bright lights of the city of angels.


              Get over it or better yet, stew in your own anti-Laker juices cause WE LOVE IT!


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              Wrong,#1 Faker fan. No jealousy here.
              Just no respect.
              Y'all are the NY Yankees of basketball.
              How'd ya like the Dwight-mare?
              LMAO.
              No worries, He'll be in Houston next season.
              Have fun with your antiquated has-beens.
              Sure ,The Magic are rebuilding, but they are YOUNG!
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                Is it just me or does anyone else hate when teams repeat championships? I like the Heat but if they don't win I won't be disappointed.
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              • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

                Wrong,#1 Faker fan. No jealousy here.
                Just no respect.
                Y'all are the NY Yankees of basketball.
                How'd ya like the Dwight-mare?
                LMAO.
                No worries, He'll be in Houston next season.

                Have fun with your antiquated has-beens.

                Sure ,The Magic are rebuilding, but they are YOUNG!

                LOL!

                How dare you???????????

                We'll see about Howard and next season.

                I'll bet you a public apology in a thread you or I create that Howard in be in the purple & gold next season.

                If I'm wrong I'll start a thread proclaiming how right you are and how wise your are and if I'm right you'll do the same.

                Better yet...

                I'll PM to you the headline and contents of the initial post of the thread and you can do the same to me if you turn out to be right.

                No more than 200 words plus the headline.

                Are you game???

                Anyways...

                Howard played right about his historic averages last season - that's why we got him.

                When healthy, he's one of the best big men in the game.

                Oh, that's right...

                Not one but two of your beloved big men left the Tragic Kingdom for La-La land.

                Now I truly understand the animosity.

                I would say I'm sorry but I'm not.

                Draft another great player and when his initial contract is over...


                Say what you will but...

                ... I'm not going round and round with a franchise that is unworthy of engaging in a debate with us.


                But what about my challenge above????


                All The Best!


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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I missed the game Kurt. We taped it and were just starting to watch it later when someone walked in and said "Warriors lost by 2". What a spoiler. But actually it's a good thing I didn't watch. They didn't play all that well and Lee got injured and is out of the playoffs. :/ It's going to real difficult now.
        During the game, they showed a stat that said Lee lead the NBA in most games played without a playoff appearance, with something like 550 games. The next closest played about 350(?).

        It's too bad for Lee to wait that long to get to play in a playoff game, only to get injured in his very first playoff game.

        The good news for the Nuggets is Kenneth Faried is expected back next game. The Faried/Lee match-up was one I was really looking forward to. Lee is smart, skilled and tough, while Faried is pure athleticism and hustle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Well, a day of blowouts. OKC, SA, IND, MIA all won and all home teams won the first game. Hopefully we'll get a competitive series but with the injury to Lee, the Nuggets should easily take care of business.
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      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Well, a day of blowouts. OKC, SA, IND, MIA all won and all home teams won the first game. Hopefully we'll get a competitive series but with the injury to Lee, the Nuggets should easily take care of business.
      Yeah, the home teams (favorites) were 8-0. You'd think there would have been at leats one upset, but none yet.
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    Great job Tim, the W's really kicked out butt. So far, Mark Jackson has totally out-coached George Karl.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Thanks Kurt. I had a feeling the Warriors would have a good game and come together after losing Lee. They were hot and the Nuggets had a bad game. It looks like it's going to be a great series and maybe go seven. I was ready to fire Jackson a few months back, but he is looking good now. Can't wait until Friday!

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Great job Tim, the W's really kicked out butt. So far, Mark Jackson has totally out-coached George Karl.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Thanks Kurt. I had a feeling the Warriors would have a good game and come together after losing Lee. They were hot and the Nuggets had a bad game. It looks like it's going to be a great series and maybe go seven. I was ready to fire Jackson a few months back, but he is looking good now. Can't wait until Friday!
        I brought up Doug Moe and his standings system, and it has proven itself to be very accurate.

        Doug Moe had another tip. He said always bet on the team that lost a major star for one game, and only one game. He felt that a team would play extremely hard to make up for the lost player, but after the one game, the loss of the star player would be felt.

        Let's see how his theory works out.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Looking forward to tonight's game. Kurt, here's a good look at some mistakes Denver made on defense in the 2nd game. Pretty interesting and in depth breakdown.

          Warriors vs. Nuggets adjustments: Denver must play smarter defense - SBNation.com

          Hopefully Curry will play tonight. He didn't practice yesterday because of that ankle sprain which swelled up after the game. Speaking of injuries, Westbrook is out because he is getting surgury on his knee. Might be out the rest of the playoffs. Big blow for the Thunder.
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Looking forward to tonight's game. Kurt, here's a good look at some mistakes Denver made on defense in the 2nd game. Pretty interesting and in depth breakdown.

            Warriors vs. Nuggets adjustments: Denver must play smarter defense - SBNation.com

            Hopefully Curry will play tonight. He didn't practice yesterday because of that ankle sprain which swelled up after the game. Speaking of injuries, Westbrook is out because he is getting surgury on his knee. Might be out the rest of the playoffs. Big blow for the Thunder.
            Thanks Tim, but I don't want to see the Nuggets mistakes again. LOL

            What surprises me the most is how the Ws are out-rebounding us. I'd like to use Manimal being hurt as the reason, but David Lee was out the last game, which nullifies Faried being hurt. Nuggets need to man up.

            With Westbrook out, that opens up the Western Conference.

            Good night for sports fans. I'll be flipping channels between the Nuggets/Ws game and the NFL draft.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    It is a hell of a sports night! Yah, hope the Warriors are able to pull it off tonight. It's going to be rockin at Oracle.

    Will be flipping between that game, Spurs/Lakers, and the Giants game.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    A little off topic, but the Broncos drafted running back Montee Ball in the second round to go with veteran Bronco RB Lance Ball.

    This gives my Broncos a pair of Balls in the backfield. <rim shot>
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Congrats again Tim...

    This was the most intense game so far. But it did seem like neither team wanted to win in the last minute or so.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      That was a crazy game! The turnovers just about gave me a heart attack. I was worried for the safety of my tv a few times. Ty Lawson was amazing Kurt. You got a great player for years to come in him.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    And that last shot at the buzzer almost went in. Imagine if it did.

    Very entertaining game. Watched it mostly as the Lakers got blown out at home and had guys on the court I've never heard of. There will be a few playoff series that will end this weekend but Warriors/Nuggets could go on for a while.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Curry got hot last night. Again. It's gotten to the point that I expect him to get in one of his hot streaks every game ever since that 54 point game against the Knicks a couple months ago. He might have a bad game here and there but he's been very consistent the second half of the season. Fun to watch too. Bogut played well also as did Jack, Landry and Green. It should be a good game Tuesday when the Nuggets get back home.
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    This caught my attention...Niiiceeeee

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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I hate sports. I'm finding myself a new pass-time.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I hate sports. I'm finding myself a new pass-time.

      Dear sir, you have my sympathies.


      All The Best!!


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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    It doesn't get much better than now! Great series to watch and now the Warriors are in the drivers seat. Denver really tough at home though. Can't wait until Game 5 tomorrow night.

    And the Sacramento Kings are staying put thanks to the NBA relocation committee turning down the sale to a group from Seattle. How about that!
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    I look forward to seeing Steph Curry going off tonight.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Bad game for the Warriors. I could tell they were going to have problems in the first few minutes. They just didn't have the same intensity that they had for the last three games. It was like they were just letting up because they were ahead 3-1. I didn't see the same desire and intensity until the 4th and by then it was too late. Big mistake. They let the Nuggets off the ropes and gave them life and hope. Thursday might be the best game of the series.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Bad game for the Warriors. I could tell they were going to have problems in the first few minutes. They just didn't have the same intensity that they had for the last three games. It was like they were just letting up because they were ahead 3-1. I didn't see the same desire and intensity until the 4th and by then it was too late. Big mistake. They let the Nuggets off the ropes and gave them life and hope. Thursday might be the best game of the series.

        Hey Tim.

        If your boys don't win game 6 at home, I predict a Nugget victory in this series.

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          I would have to agree with that TL. Now the pressure is all on them. Thing is, they should have played last night as if it was game seven.

          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Hey Tim.

          If your boys don't win game 6 at home, I predict a Nugget victory in this series.

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    What's up TL? You decide to show up as soon as the Lakers' season is over?

    Good to see you.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      What's up TL? You decide to show up as soon as the Lakers' season is over?

      Good to see you.
      Right back at you Kurt.

      It's been the season from hell for all Laker fans and you were spot on with your predictions of Father Time catching up to the Lakers.

      Good luck in game #6 verses the Tim's Warriors.

      All The Best!!


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        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Right back at you Kurt.

        It's been the season from hell for all Laker fans and you were spot on with your predictions of Father Time catching up to the Lakers.

        Good luck in game #6 verses the Tim's Warriors.

        All The Best!!


        TL
        Actually, I've done pretty well with my predictions this year. I also said to watch out for the Nuggets, as well as predicted the Clippers would be better than the Lakers.

        In the playoffs I took Memphis over the Clippers and feel Memphis is the most under-appreciated team in the NBA. Marc Gasol is not only the best Gasol in the NBA, this year, he's been the best center. Gasol and Zach Randolf give the Griz a twin towers at a time when most other teams are going small.

        And Mike Conley may be the most underrated point guard in the NBA.

        It's not over yet and the Clippers can still win the series, but I like the Griz' chances.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          A few of these series are getting interesting. Memphis has turned it around and now can win it at home. The Celtics won tonight in New York and can tie it at home. The Rockets are leading the Thunder in OKC at halftime. The Warriors/Nuggets was interesting already. Oh, and Indiana/Atlanta can easily go 7. Pretty good series for the first round.

          Blake Griffin is funny in those time travel commercials. I like the Durant one where the Asian lady says "He looks fine to me. Go play". haha
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            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            A few of these series are getting interesting. Memphis has turned it around and now can win it at home. The Celtics won tonight in New York and can tie it at home. The Rockets are leading the Thunder in OKC at halftime. The Warriors/Nuggets was interesting already. Oh, and Indiana/Atlanta can easily go 7. Pretty good series for the first round.

            Blake Griffin is funny in those time travel commercials. I like the Durant one where the Asian lady says "He looks fine to me. Go play". haha

            Griffin also does the Gamy Fly commercals.

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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          Actually, I've done pretty well with my predictions this year. I also said to watch out for the Nuggets, as well as predicted the Clippers would be better than the Lakers.

          In the playoffs I took Memphis over the Clippers and feel Memphis is the most under-appreciated team in the NBA. Marc Gasol is not only the best Gasol in the NBA, this year, he's been the best center. Gasol and Zach Randolf give the Griz a twin towers at a time when most other teams are going small.

          And Mike Conley may be the most underrated point guard in the NBA.

          It's not over yet and the Clippers can still win the series, but I like the Griz' chances.
          Again, the Griz are a tough team and it still seems that they are under-appreciated.

          BTW, Mike Conley had 26-10-9 in tonight's game.
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            Memphis won one of the first two, which was their goal. They do look like the better overall team, although Durant is trying his best. That one dunk by Durant after a couple crossover dribbles was awesome!

            Great game by Conley. Definitely an elite point guard.
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            Again, the Griz are a tough team and it still seems that they are under-appreciated.

            BTW, Mike Conley had 26-10-9 in tonight's game.
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    BTW, does anyone else think Blake Griffin is the next Peyton Manning when it comes to athletes making funny commercials? Griffin has some entertaining commercials out and he's really good in them.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Will the Boston mystic work its' magic and spook Carmello and the Knicks and help the Celts win the series after being down 3-0?

    Will Golden State collapse in the west?

    Is Mark Jackson crying wolf?

    If Blake Griffin stays hurt, the Clippers can forget it.

    Houston is making a valiant effort but I can't see OKC allowing them to win the series - even without Westbrook.


    Enjoy!


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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Will the Boston mystic work its' magic and spook Carmello and the Knicks and help the Celts win the series after being down 3-0?

      Will Golden State collapse in the west?

      Is Mark Jackson crying wolf?

      If Blake Griffin stays hurt, the Clippers can forget it.

      Houston is making a valiant effort but I can't see OKC allowing them to win the series - even without Westbrook.


      Enjoy!


      TL
      Yes, MJ is crying wolf. Let's not forget in the game MJ was complaining about, the Ws were called for two flagrant fouls and the Nuggets zero. Bogut's cheap shot on Faried was bogus.

      MJ is just doing a "Phil Jackson" and trying to influence the refs. I don't blame him for trying.
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        Maybe MJ was doing a PJ, but I also think his claims had some merit. Tough fouls are expected in the playoffs, but when someone obviously sticks a foot in front of a guy who has missed dozens and dozens of games because of chronic ankle sprains it kind of bugs me. I mean, I and other warrior fans were even wondering if Curry was going to be able to have a decent career because of his constant ankle problems. If you are going to call a flagrant on Bogut for just pushing someone, then that play by Farried should have been a flagrant also imo.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Maybe MJ was doing a PJ, but I also think his claims had some merit. Tough fouls are expected in the playoffs, but when someone obviously sticks a foot in front of a guy who has missed dozens and dozens of games because of chronic ankle sprains it kind of bugs me. I mean, I and other warrior fans were even wondering if Curry was going to be able to have a decent career because of his constant ankle problems. If you are going to call a flagrant on Bogut for just pushing someone, then that play by Farried should have been a flagrant also imo.
          How does MJ know what Faried was really thinking? Faried said he didn't even recall that Curry had ankle problems and thought when he was called for the foul it was because of his shoulder to Curry. If you watch it again from Faried's point of view, you can see he moved his entire body and didn't just stick a foot out and that their shoulders colliding cause much of the "foul" to Curry.

          In reality, it's even possible that Faried tried to trip Curry without even remembering Curry's ankle issues, although Faried denies he tried to trip Curry.

          Not to mention, Faried just missed 2 weeks with his own ankle injury.

          I understand your concern for Curry, he is one of the "daintiest" players in the NBA.

          Also, Faried is one of the nicest guys in the NBA and I don't think we should assume we know what he was thinking, especially when it assumes that he was intentinally trying to hurt someone. That goes completely against his personality.

          I do think it was obvious that Bogus went to the face and neck of Faried intentionally though.

          BTW, this just in:






          "Faried, raised by two mothers, won the J. Walter Kennedy Citizenship Award on Wednesday for his work in the community."
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    I think those were stupid comments by Mark Jackson and unnecessary. The Warriors still have the upper hand and have a great chance to finish off Denver tonight at "Roaracle." They better because I don't see them winning Game 7 at Denver.

    Yah, Knicks are in trouble now. Guess the funeral garbs wasn't a good idea. OKC should still be fine but can't take Houston lightly. Bulls/Nets, is that series over yet? I also heard the Pacers and Hawks are still playing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Congrats Tim and good luck against the Spurs. (?)

    The Nuggets didn't play well, but didn't give up and actually had a chance to win the game. The difference came down to free throw shooting, a weakness of the Nuggets all season long, and a strength of the Ws.

    For my Nuggets, we are the second youngest team in the NBA, so we should be able to improve just by getting more experience. We also can have long stretches where we can't score and need to improve our outside shooting.

    A month or two ago, there was a rumor that we'd make a strong push to sign Kyle Korver in the off season. I think he'd make a great addition to the team and would really open things up for the rest of the team. Historically, he's the most accurate 3 pt shooter in NBA history, just what we need.
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      Thanks Kurt. It was another strange game. The ending was cringe worthy for a Warrior fan. Unbelievable turnovers! Hopefully they got that stuff out of their system. I do like the Nuggets and Karl. Faried is a fun player to watch and I certainly don't think of him as a bad guy at all. Seems like a great guy in fact. Something tells me these two teams will be playing in the playoffs a lot in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Condolences to Kurt and congrats to Tim.

    A young Nugget ball club should be a force in the western conference for years to come - same with the upstart Warriors.

    If David Lee returns I can see GS beating San Antonio in less than seven games.

    The Celtic magic was not available for the Celts yesterday as they fall to the Knicks in 6 games at home and a valient Rocket team does the same at the hands of a Westbrook-less OKC Thunder.

    The Bulls and the Nets will play game #7 today at 8 eastern and then the conference semi-final match ups will be set.

    Enjoy!!


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    That Warriors game was amazing at the end and with all those turnovers, it's like they were trying to give it away. Great series and glad to see the Warriors move on. Going to be tough against the Spurs. GS hasn't won in SA in a little while.

    All four games were series enders last night. I like Memphis to upset OKC and unfortunately the Spurs will be too much for GS. Miami will win against Nets/Bulls rather easily and the Knicks/Pacers series will be close. Could see Indiana winning that series.
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  • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
    What a great couple of games. I hated seeing the Warriors lose after playing so well 95% of the game, but I loved seeing Chicago win in Miami.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Well, it looks like Miami won't go 16 and 0 in this years playoffs but I can not see Chicago lasting more than 6 games.

    Tim, your Warriors can take the Spurs out if they win the 2nd game in SA.

    Enjoy!


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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    My predictions....


    - Miami in 6.

    - Mem in 7.

    - NY in 7.

    - GS in 7.

    Enjoy!


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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      My predictions....


      - Miami in 6.

      - Mem in 7.

      - NY in 7.

      - GS in 7.

      Enjoy!


      TL
      MIA - 6
      IND - 7
      MEM - 6
      SA - 6 (Sorry Tim)
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Chicago - 6
        Ind - 7
        Mem - 7
        Warriors - 6

        Note: Predictions may be subject to change after tonight.
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        MIA - 6
        IND - 7
        MEM - 6
        SA - 6 (Sorry Tim)
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Chicago - 6
          Ind - 7
          Mem - 7
          Warriors - 6

          Note: Predictions may be subject to change after tonight.
          Subject to change?

          I guess you're letting your dislike of Labron and Co. get in the way of the logical choice for a lock in this years playoffs but you can always hope.

          Sorry Ken, but all the Boys From Chi-Town have done is awakened a sleeping giant ala the attack on Pearl Harbor.


          Does anyone think Derrick Rose should be playing?


          Not me.


          Can I adjust one of my predictions?


          I'm going to adjust my prediction to Miami in 5.

          Tim, your fellows had a 16 point lead with about one third of a period remaining and blew it and then lost in overtime. ( I thought that's what I read this morning )


          Wasn't there something someone could have done to stop it. ( LOL! )


          I didn't see it but if you had to witness it, you have my sympathies.


          BTW...

          I'm sticking to Mem over The Thunder since Westbrook won't be playing and Mem is the NBA leader in fewest points allowed.

          Enjoy!


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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

            Subject to change?
            Yes, if the Warriors lose I will change my prediction to Warriors in 7.

            I guess you're letting your dislike of Labron and Co. get in the way of the logical choice for a lock in this years playoffs but you can always hope.
            I actually don't dislike Lebron or any of the other players on the Heat. I do think they are beatable and the Bulls might be the one team in the east to have a chance. I'm rooting for them because they are the underdog, especially with all the injuries.

            Rose should be playing. His reasoning for not playing doesn't work for me. He should be out there helping his team whether he is 100% ready or not. The doctors cleared him 2 months ago.

            Tim, your fellows had a 16 point lead with about one third of a period remaining and blew it and then lost in overtime. ( I thought that's what I read this morning )


            Wasn't there something someone could have done to stop it. ( LOL! )


            I didn't see it but if you had to witness it, you have my sympathies.
            I was listening to it with my gf Teasha while driving to pick up her daughter. Teasha was going nutts! haha. And I thought I was a fanatic about the Warriors! We got home in time to watch the second overtime. It was a difficult game to digest but I survived. I am just happy the Warriors are getting playoff experience. Anything beyond the first round is terrific. I do believe they will come back and win at least one in SA though and if they do I see them winning the series.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Thompson has been cold in the playoffs and they have still won, but he is hot tonight! 29 at halftime! I hope you are watching TL.
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              • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Thompson has been cold in the playoffs and they have still won, but he is hot tonight! 29 at halftime! I hope you are watching TL.

                Tim, I didn't see the first half of the game but watched a lot of the 2nd half, especially the final 8 minutes.

                San Antone is a team that is great during the regular season but is not going to get it done in the playoffs.


                Why?


                IMHO...

                There're a smart team and good with the fundamentals but that's not enough to advance deep into the playoffs when faced with quality ball clubs.

                If the Lakers had been anywhere near full strength, we could have picked them off in the first round.

                I look forward to the Warriors in the West Finals.

                Miami was upset with their performance in game one but I can't see it going more than 5.


                Tonight the Knicks will eek out a win in Indianapolis and Mem will go up 2 games to 1 verses the Westbrookless Thunder.


                Tim, you and Sir Charles Barkley are on the same page regarding Derrick Rose and his (non) playing status.

                But Shaq and I believe he should make damn sure He's completely healed and really ready for real game action before he messes up is leg and destroys his playing future by coming back too early.

                I believe he hurt himself doing a "jump step" move in which I believe is an up & down violation but the NBA has allowed him to perform.



                Here's the play...





                Enjoy!


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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  Teasha and I will be at roaracle arena tomorrow night to watch game three! Can't wait! The last playoff game I saw there was when the Warriors upset the Mavs back in 2007. What an experience that was.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                    Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                    Teasha and I will be at roaracle arena tomorrow night to watch game three! Can't wait! The last playoff game I saw there was when the Warriors upset the Mavs back in 2007. What an experience that was.

                    Wow!

                    I hear the fans at Arco are great.

                    I hope you guys win and I'll be looking for you in the crowd.



                    Enjoy!!!!!!!!


                    All The Best,


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                • Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

                  Tim, I didn't see the first half of the game but watched a lot of the 2nd half, especially the final 8 minutes.

                  San Antone is a team that is great during the regular season but is not going to get it done in the playoffs.


                  Why?


                  IMHO...

                  There're a smart team and good with the fundamentals but that's not enough to advance deep into the playoffs when faced with quality ball clubs.

                  If the Lakers had been anywhere near full strength, we could have picked them off in the first round.
                  how is san antonio not a quality ball club. just for the fact that there so fundamental makes them quality. they have a top guard and great veteran leadership. they have enough to make it out of the nba finals again. last year they were only 2 wins away. they have also beat last year times such as the clippers outdoing chris paul and blake griffin. I think they can beat oklahoma city(without westbrook) and put up a good fight against memphis since the way memphis plays is straight hard aggressive D vs a team with pure fundamentals should be a interesting matchup. neither of the two explosive scorers.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
                    Originally Posted by MediaEncounterOmar View Post

                    how is san antonio not a quality ball club. just for the fact that there so fundamental makes them quality. they have a top guard and great veteran leadership. they have enough to make it out of the nba finals again. last year they were only 2 wins away. they have also beat last year times such as the clippers outdoing chris paul and blake griffin. I think they can beat oklahoma city(without westbrook) and put up a good fight against memphis since the way memphis plays is straight hard aggressive D vs a team with pure fundamentals should be a interesting matchup. neither of the two explosive scorers.
                    I never said they were not a quality ballclub.


                    I said they have a way of doing very well in the regular season but not in the playoffs and I stated my reasons why.


                    They have not won a NBA championship since 2005?


                    They may get past a young GS but they will not get past whoever wins between the Grizzles in the western conf finals.


                    My NBA Finals prediction...


                    Miami Verses Memphis with Miami winning in no more than 6 games.


                    But time will tell and today will speak volumes about the future of a young GS Warriors ball club.


                    All The Best!!


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    Still, I love MIAMI! GO heat! ) LeBron James came on strong down ! they're the best!
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    Highlight of the Heat/Bulls game?

    Nazr Mohammed doing what every non Heat fan has wanted to do at some point -


    Well, at least for me anyways :p
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Warriors played their worst game of the series and their second worse of the playoffs. Bad D, dumb turnovers and missing open shots isn't going to win many playoff games. Hopefully they will get it together for game 4. Hopefully Curry will play also.
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  • man my knicks are slacking. hopefully next game we can bounce back. I think amare did well for his return.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Between Tim, TL and me, one of us went 4-0 in Game 3's if you go by how we predicted the series winners.

    I wonder who that was?
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Between Tim, TL and me, one of us went 4-0 in Game 3's if you go by how we predicted the series winners.

      I wonder who that was?

      It was you Kurt, it was you.

      But time will tell on how these series will turn out per our predictions.

      Tim's Warriors get to live another day after escaping on Sunday verses the Spurs.

      Duncan and Tony Parker went something like 13 for 40 and it's really hard for them to win any game in which their two main people shoot so poorly.

      Mark Jackson has done a wonderful job with a team that's not even at full strength - without the services of David Lee.

      Congrads Tim!


      Enjoy!


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        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        It was you Kurt, it was you.

        But time will tell on how these series will turn out per our predictions.


        I'm 3-0. Actually 4-0 since I picked Memphis over LAC earlier in this thread.

        One series left, with IND up 3-2 over the NY Knuggets, Melo, JR, Kenyon, Camby and even Felton for a short while...Funny how the media thinks these guys are so much better once they move to the East. Even Birdman is a Hall of Famer since he's now playing on the East Coast.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          I'm 3-0. Actually 4-0 since I picked Memphis over LAC earlier in this thread.

          One series left, with IND up 3-2 over the NY Knuggets, Melo, JR, Kenyon, Camby and even Felton for a short while...Funny how the media thinks these guys are so much better once they move to the East. Even Birdman is a Hall of Famer since he's now playing on the East Coast.

          Oh so true Kurt.

          I don't know why I picked the Knicks to beat Indiana and I was also wrong about SA verses a young GS.

          Congrats to Tim on a fine season for his Warriors.

          Who would have thunk it possible at the start of the season?

          Well, now we have the NBA final four.

          Memphis visits San Antonio today at 3:30 eastern.

          I think IND will start playing Miami on Tuesday.

          Enjoy!!!


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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            The Spurs win easily in game one. I have to disagree with TL on how good of a team SA is. They have some good young talent to go with the veterans who are still playing at a very high level. Plus, the have the best coach in the league. I'm rooting for Memphis but wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs make it back to the finals because they may just be the one team who can beat Miami now.
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            • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              The Spurs win easily in game one. I have to disagree with TL on how good of a team SA is. They have some good young talent to go with the veterans who are still playing at a very high level. Plus, the have the best coach in the league. I'm rooting for Memphis but wouldn't mind seeing the Spurs make it back to the finals because they may just be the one team who can beat Miami now.
              I hear you Tim.

              It looks like I was wrong big time about SA.


              You're also right that SA may be the only team that can beat Miami since they play very smart and do have the best coach in the league - but we'll see if they get past Memphis first.


              All The Best!!


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        • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
          I said a few days ago that this series would go 7 games, which in my book, confirms my thoughts about the NBA being fixed. We already know that Miami is gonna win the next one at home.
          The fixing has been blatant these past two seasons. I won't be watching the NBA next season.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Good win by the Pacers. Their defense really shuts down the inside against Miami and they contest the three really well although Miami shot the three pretty good tonight. I'm looking forward to game seven. The Spurs are looking better and better.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Awesome game today at Oracle! The Spurs were dominating most of the game and the Warriors took it to them in OT. All tied going back to SA. What a series and I hope it goes 7.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Looks like there'll be a NEW Western Conference Champion as Memphis comes back from 17 down to best the Blunder, I mean Thunder in overtime, in a crucial game 4 to go up 3 games to 1.

    A young Keven Durant wilts down the stretch and Derrick Fisher commits a big turnover right after TNT shows highlights of him hitting that famous last second shot for my Lakers.

    Miami continues to shut down an undermanned Chicago team and also leads their series 3 games to 1.

    Tonight, can GS go to San Antonio and get a win?

    Only time will tell.

    Enjoy!


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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I have a feeling they will play their best game of the series and win easily. Hope so anyways. I think the warriors vs Memphis could be a real interesting and exciting series.
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post


      Tonight, can GS go to San Antonio and get a win?
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        So much for my "feeling". The Spurs/Grizzlies series should be a good one but I'll be rooting for Memphis to win it all.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I've got:
    SA over Mem
    Miami over IND

    SA and Memphis are the two most underrated teams this season. I'm picking SA because they are the better shooting team.

    BTW, how come the second SA/MEM game is being played before the first Miami/IND game?
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      I was wondering the same thing. Weird schedule. After tonight's game SA/Mem don't play until Sat and Miami/Ind play again on Friday.
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


      BTW, how come the second SA/MEM game is being played before the first Miami/IND game?
      I'm looking forward to tonight's game. Mem should make adjustments and make it a better game than #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Memphis had their chances.

    After SA raced off to a 10-14 point lead I started looking at the movie "Breach" about the real life story of FBI traitor Robert Hanson starring Ryan Philippe who was tasked as a young FBI agent to keep a close watch on Hanson.

    I would check back to the game on every commercial break but the game was not tight until about the 10 minute mark of the 4th.

    About the 3 minute mark, when SA's lead was down to 3 or 4 SA missed about 7 shots in a row but so did Memphis.

    Memphis had their chance to steal one in SA.

    Now, Mem must protect their home court and get at least one of two remaining games in SA.

    My prediction remains firm at Mem in 7.


    Enjoy!


    Ps. I think Miami/IND play tonight and Friday and SA/Mem won't play again until the weekend.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Miami escapes at the buzzer!

    I would have had Roy Hibbert in the game.




    On the way to mighty Omaha NE. for a Saturday wedding of my one of my first cousins.




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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Indiana is looking like the better team in this series. They should be up 2-0 going home. Didn't realize they were this good and they have a real chance at beating the Heat. In fact, I think they will beat the Heat.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      They do look like the better team. Deeper and the only match up they lose it seems is the one with James. I knew they had a chance but wasn't sure if they were really ready for Miami yet. Looks like they are ready. Hibbert is playing way better than he was in the regular season and George looks like a legit super star.

      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Indiana is looking like the better team in this series. They should be up 2-0 going home. Didn't realize they were this good and they have a real chance at beating the Heat. In fact, I think they will beat the Heat.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexchan338
    Oh man i found out this thread a little too late man!! I am a huge NBA fans and its disheartening to see how the Memphis unable to pull out a W in those 3 games, spurs are just that dam good. Pacers just as usual are so underrated, for some reason, they have not been talked alot this year, yet their roster are one of the strongest and deepest of all, Heat and pacers are two of the best defensive teams. Its exciting to watch them play.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Indiana has looked very solid throughout the playoffs...until tonight.

    And hats off to Birdman. Last I saw he was 15-15 shooting in this playoff series against Indiana.

    Birdman is kind of a goofball, but he's a good guy. The incident last year while he was with the Nuggets concerning the under age girl seems to be a case where Birdman was actually the victim and being blackmailed. The police have never released many details, but this seems to be the case at this point in time.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm back from the mighty city of Omaha Nebraska with another refrigerator magnate.

    My uncle (father of the bride) took me on a tour of the city and showed me Buffet's home.

    Question???

    Did Indiana only get Miami angry much like Chicago did in the 2nd round?

    I think so.

    All the pressure is on Indiana for game #4 cause if they loose this one they'll be down 3 games to 1 and that will be all she wrote.

    As Dwayne Wade pointed out, if their turnovers are low and Bosh and/or Haslem are hitting their shots, the Heat are very hard to beat.

    You're absolutely right Kurt, the Birdman (The Tattooed One) has turned out to be a fine addition to the Heat.

    I can't see this series going more than 6 games.


    How about them Spurs?


    San Antonio continues to force feed me humble pie as they keep getting by a young Memphis ball club and now lead the series 3 games to zip.

    SA has tortured me into respecting them and Duncan is truly amazing as I haven't seen this much spring in his step in years.

    Miami figures they better dispatch Indiana ASAP so that SA won't be well rested when they meet in the finals.

    Enjoy!

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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    I really thought that Memphis would give San Antonio problems. But we see how that's turned out.....
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      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      I really thought that Memphis would give San Antonio problems. But we see how that's turned out.....
      You and me both.


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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I'm 3-0. Actually 4-0 since I picked Memphis over LAC earlier in this thread.

        One series left, with IND up 3-2 over the NY Knuggets, Melo, JR, Kenyon, Camby and even Felton for a short while...Funny how the media thinks these guys are so much better once they move to the East. Even Birdman is a Hall of Famer since he's now playing on the East Coast.
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        I've got:
        SA over Mem
        Miami over IND

        SA and Memphis are the two most underrated teams this season. I'm picking SA because they are the better shooting team.

        BTW, how come the second SA/MEM game is being played before the first Miami/IND game?

        TL, I think your Griz over Spurs pick now makes you 2-3.

        I'm now 6-0 in series predictions this year...

        I think we both have Miami.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          TL, I think your Griz over Spurs pick now makes you 2-3.

          I'm now 6-0 in series predictions this year...

          I think we both have Miami.

          Kurt, I'm beginning to wonder if you're privy to some sort of insider info.


          INDY holds off Miami to tie the series at 2 games apiece and Miami is going to have to win the next 2 to make my prediction come true - but I'm not so sure about that.

          I still have Miami all the way but INDY may tire Miami out for a well rested SA.


          Enjoy!


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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          TL, I think your Griz over Spurs pick now makes you 2-3.

          I'm now 6-0 in series predictions this year...

          I think we both have Miami.
          Kurt 7-0
          TL 3-3
          Tim 2-2 (?)

          I have an idea of who I like in the finals, but want to sleep on it.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            Good win by Miami. They pulled it together again to beat the Pacers, but I still think the Indiana series showed they have some weaknesses. I'm picking the Spurs in the finals.
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Maybe its just me, but it looks like MIA threw that game last night. I don't wanna scream conspiracy or anything, but the NBA is a business and I don't think the NBA would benefit by letting this MIA/IND series go less than 6 games. I'm gonna guess that the REAL series starts now.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      Maybe its just me, but it looks like MIA threw that game last night. I don't wanna scream conspiracy or anything, but the NBA is a business and I don't think the NBA would benefit by letting this MIA/IND series go less than 6 games. I'm gonna guess that the REAL series starts now.


      The thought also ran through my mind as I watched James and Wade make big mistakes near the end of the game.


      I'm sure the NBA would love for every series to go 7 games but...


      ...it's awfully hard for me to believe the Miami franchise would participate and risk being upset by INDY so that the NBA could make a little more money.


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      • Profile picture of the author senthu
        Sad to see Memphis get swept but it was a great season for them. Definitely turned into one of my favourite teams with Randolph, Gasol and Conley anchoring the starting 5.
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        • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
          Looking forward to tonight's game. I like the focus Indiana had in the last game. Meanwhile, the Spurs stay home and rest, which will only help them because of their experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Indiana has been tough, especially Hibbert. It's great watching a center with post moves again. Hibbert has really improved his game.

    ...But, Miami wins tonight and takes a 3-2 lead.

    And Birdman is now 18-18 on field goals this series. Not bad for a guy that can't shoot.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I tell you what, I would rather have Hibbert than Howard. Hibbert is very impressive. Another Georgetown center who will have a good long career it looks like.

      Birdman is playing terrific, but what the hell was he going after Hansbrough for? LOl.
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Indiana has been tough, especially Hibbert. It's great watching a center with post moves again. Hibbert has really improved his game.

      ...But, Miami wins tonight and takes a 3-2 lead.

      And Birdman is now 18-18 on field goals this series. Not bad for a guy that can't shoot.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I tell you what, I would rather have Hibbert than Howard. Hibbert is very impressive. Another Georgetown center who will have a good long career it looks like.

        Birdman is playing terrific, but what the hell was he going after Hansbrough for? LOl.
        Tim, I'd take Hibbert over Howard also.


        INDY is a very good team and IMHO easily in the top 5 of the NBA and can look like the better team for a whole game - but you've got to win 4 games to advance.

        What's funny is that in this series no team has won 2 games in a row. We'll see what happens in game #6.

        Enjoy!

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      • Profile picture of the author senthu
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I tell you what, I would rather have Hibbert than Howard. Hibbert is very impressive. Another Georgetown center who will have a good long career it looks like.

        Birdman is playing terrific, but what the hell was he going after Hansbrough for? LOl.
        I agree I would also take Hibbert over Howard, especially after all of Howard's off court media mishaps.

        And no idea that was a flagrant block on Hansbrough out of the blue. That game had everything though: good back and forth action, good defense and blocks, some nice offensive plays and it was physical.

        Here's hoping to a good game 6!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Fellows...

    I woke up to catch Miami at the tail end of the game breaking streak at the end of the 3rd. (that's period not quarter)

    Watched to see if INDY would claw into Miami's lead and make a game of it but it was not to be and therefore Miami leads the series 3-2 with the 6th game in INDY.

    Mr. George looks like a real NBA superstar - and he is, but he got no help from his teammates and Mr. Stephenson is a real gamer and more per his sharp elbow that happened to meet with Mr. Wade's chin.

    Kurt I think INDY should force Miami to sag on Hibbert ( a lot more ) but then they must hit enough of the jumpers as a response to the sag.

    The King allegedly gave his teammates a "Win One For The Gipper" speech I think at the beginning of the 2nd half.

    BTW...

    Miami severely needs to win game 6 in order to get about 5 maybe 6 days of rest for GAME 1 of the finals with SA.


    Enjoy!

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post


      Kurt I think INDY should force Miami to sag on Hibbert ( a lot more ) but then they must hit enough of the jumpers as a response to the sag.
      That's a big problem with Indy: they don't have many good outside shooters. The more I watch this series the more I think the Spurs will win it all. They can make the 3, have good size, plus a great team defense. Miami is showing some vulnerabilities in this series.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    On a sad note Mookie Blaylock is in critical condition after a car crash.

    He was a great competitor during his tenure in the NBA who got my respect.


    Guess what?


    Miami ended INDY'S season last year in the 2nd round in game #6 - in INDY and the game 5 winner of an NBA series has won the series 84% of the time.

    If the Heat move on it will be their 3rd trip in a row to the finals.

    INDY needs big games from their 3 best players George, Hibbert and West - 3 of the top 60-75 players of the NBA.

    Stephenson plays great at home but not on the road - will he show up tonight?


    BTW...

    Birdman has been suspended for 1 game thanks to his unnecessary conflagration with Hansberry.

    Will it hurt the heat?


    Movie Time?


    I have to take the kid to a movie date with her girl friends tonight and the movie starts at 07:30 EST and will be over about 09:30

    The theater is only about 20 minutes away and...

    I'll easily get home to see the start of the game and will have to leave to pick her up right about halftime.

    If the game starts at 08:30 EST. it should be over about 11:00.

    I should be able to see most of the 2nd half of the game.

    Will history repeat itself or will there be game #7.

    Enjoy!!


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    • Profile picture of the author henryj
      Hey also if you remember from last season, 2 players from the heat were suspended.

      Indiana will not win this one, even tho it will be tough without birdman who was critical down low and also helped lebron a lot with the drives. Since lebron would drive, and hibbert would jump to try to stop him, he would just throw a sweet pass to birdman (hence the perfect field goal) these were easy buckets for the heat.

      I see chris bosh stepping up this game, they need him too.

      BTW i never even knew this forum had an nba thread. I would have been here a while ago haha.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Well, well well...

    History won't be repeating itself as the Pacers extend the series to game #7.

    Wade and Bosh were M.I.A. (total of 20 points) and if this continues in game #7 INDY will represent the east in the finals.

    Amazingly (according to NBA.com) Miami was outscored by 22 points when Lebron was in the game?????

    Did Miami miss Birdman???

    Enjoy!


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    • Profile picture of the author henryj
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Well, well well...

      History won't be repeating itself as the Pacers extend the series to game #7.

      Wade and Bosh were M.I.A. (total of 20 points) and if this continues in game #7 INDY will represent the east in the finals.

      Amazingly (according to NBA.com) Miami was outscored by 22 points when Lebron was in the game?????

      Did Miami miss Birdman???

      Enjoy!


      TL
      Miami DEFIANTLY missed birdman, he was such a distraction for roy hibbert when lebron was driving. They wont lose this game, miami hasnt lost two in a row. I got faith lol

      But it will def be a hard fought game, and it will be veryyyy pyhsical.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by henryj View Post

        Miami DEFIANTLY missed birdman, he was such a distraction for roy hibbert when lebron was driving. They wont lose this game, miami hasnt lost two in a row. I got faith lol

        But it will def be a hard fought game, and it will be very physical.

        I still have Miami to win it all but I wouldn't bet my life on it.


        All The Best!


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        • Profile picture of the author senthu
          Game 7 here we come! Indiana's defense was amazing last game but it definitely helped that Birdman was out and Bosh and Wade were MIA and have been MIA for the majority of the series. Lebron can't win the championship himself. And it's also nice to see Paul George solidify himself as one of the top players in the game today while still being in his early 20's.

          Also nice to know that I've met Paul George at a Raptors game one time :p he was a very nice guy and taller than I thought haha.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            The Heat don't sound like a team now. The other day Lebron even said they reminded him of Cleveland. That's a cut at the rest of the team, perhaps deservedly so but it doesn't look good going into a game seven.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Hibbert expresses himself at the game #6 post game conference...


    Roy Hibbert Post Game 6 Interview : " Y'all Mother F*ckers " - YouTube
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert_Rand
    Spoelstra definitely owes Vogel a nice Christmas card this year for pulling George and Hibbert during the first half.

    If the Heat win, that was the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I'm taking the Spurs.

    The wildcard is D Wade. If he's healthy, the Heat would be my pick, but I just don't think he's 100%. Spurs are big like IND, but have better shooters and more experience, and Parker was the second best player in the NBA this year, IMO.
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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      Congrats to the Heat; Lebron James carried that team on his back this series!

      It's definitely tough to pick the series between San Antonio and Miami. Miami, when everyone is playing their best, looks unbeatable and has all the big names and team chemistry to boot, but the way San Antonio steamrolled the Memphis Grizzlies shows me they have another level as well.

      It's going to be a good one, folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    - Miami goes a whopping 33 of 38 from the line and INDY goes only 14 of 20 - a huge 19 point difference with Lebron alone going 15 of 16 from the line.

    - James shuts down George and Miami shuts down INDY as 76 points is not going to get it done.

    - INDY coach keeps both Hibbert and George out of game in 2nd and that's when Miami established their lead - for good.

    Marve was talking about they needed a blow but Reggie and Steve implored coach to put them back in ASAP - because they're young.

    - A young INDY turned the ball over 9 times in the 1st and they almost doubled Miami's 11 turnovers for the game with 21 big ones.


    Kurt has a good point regarding Wade but if Bosh and/or Wade plays well, SA will be in big trouble - cause it seems like James does not have bad games.

    - It'll be a great contrast in styles but I can't see the finals going more than 6 games with Miami repeating - but I'd love to see it go 7.


    Enjoy!

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    Ps. Thanks Grant Hill and Jason Kidd.
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  • Profile picture of the author maark
    As a Boston fan I really want that Spurs run over cHeat and that Ginobili plays at his real level, not this 10pts barely even walking mode.

    But the fact is, that Bosh isnt playing very good atm, and if he gets his throw back, that will seriously affect Miami offensive scoring and tilts the tables towards the Heat.

    I mean, Lebron will give his 25-30pts, that is a fact, so the game will break at other matchups Timmy - Bosh. Hope Tim gets his ring, he definately deserves it!

    Go Spurs!
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    No doubt, Shaq ticked me off.
    He continued to do so throughout his career.

    Howard? not so much. The kid was spoiled by the organization. And was the major factor to Stan van Gundys demise.
    Yup, he was the most dominate big in the game, until the peripheral bs ( and injuries). He got really crap advice from his handlers.
    I was thrilled to see Howard go to LA. Why not send the circus to the Clowns?

    Your allegiances aside, think about it.
    You are D12. Youre 28, with maybe 5 seasons left. You want a Ring. You want to be THE guy on the team (again...).
    LA? nah,man. gettin old. Kobe's no fun. got no supporting cast.
    Houston? Yeah,Man. Young team, got some talent, could win a couple rings. I would BE THE MAN (again..).
    And in a couple years, maybe Back to O-town. (dont laugh, i know how the kid thinks,sorta )

    As far as your wager? If I am wrong I will say so, and reveal the reason why I dont like the Fakers.( Its not as obvious as you think).

    Peace!
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Is it just me, or does it now seem like LeBron, Wade and Bosh teamed up because Wade knew that he was going to start slowing down soon due to injuries? In 2010, people thought that these three guys were teaming up to form a super team. But when you look at what's taken place, Wade has been on a steady decline and has become a true second option since then. Which ultimately lead to LeBron James having to carry the team anyways.
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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      Is it just me, or does it now seem like LeBron, Wade and Bosh teamed up because Wade knew that he was going to start slowing down soon due to injuries? In 2010, people thought that these three guys were teaming up to form a super team. But when you look at what's taken place, Wade has been on a steady decline and has become a true second option since then. Which ultimately lead to LeBron James having to carry the team anyways.
      One thing to remember is that although all 3 were drafted the same year, Wade is on the wrong side of 30 and that's when your body starts to get defective, especially being an athlete. I think it should have been expected but he's still an amazing player and when he's healthy next season he'll be back to his superstar self.
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
        Originally Posted by senthu View Post

        One thing to remember is that although all 3 were drafted the same year, Wade is on the wrong side of 30 and that's when your body starts to get defective, especially being an athlete. I think it should have been expected but he's still an amazing player and when he's healthy next season he'll be back to his superstar self.
        I'm not saying that Wade has lost his greatness, I'm saying that Wade may have known that he wouldn't continue playing at a high level for much longer due to his injuries. Wade is still a 20+ ppg scorer, but to keep that up, he has to recover in the off-season and develop a consistent jump shot! If Wade wants to extend his career now that he's losing his athleticism, becoming a consistent jump shooter is a must.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Since 1984, the winner of Game #1 Of The NBA Finals goes on to win 68% of the time.

    OKC won the first game last year and Miami won game #1 verses Dallas a couple years ago.

    Enjoy!

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Spurs hang around and then go right by Miami for a 92-88 Game 1 victory in front of a shocked
    Miami crowd.

    IMHO...

    Miami played like they couldn't lose until they did.

    Most Interesting Game Stats:

    Only 4 Spur turnovers. Miami had only 8.

    Interesting enough Sean Tudor Carter, Miami was outscored by 11 when Wade was on the floor but he seemed to have a good game scoring 17 points on 7-15 from the field.

    - Too many Miami players tried to get off but only got out of their roles and hurt the team but the San Antone players stayed in their roles and it paid off big time.

    - Magic said...

    The Heat played a good game and lost.

    And he believes SA can get better but Miami can not.

    I say...

    I think Mr. James should become a wee-bit more selfish as he only took 17 shots at the bucket.

    The dude sometimes passes the ball when he's almost at point blank range as he dances around and through the defense of SA and most of the time a "slick" pass - instead of shooting.


    The biggest question - in my mind is which coach can help his team play the better ball game and get to four wins first.


    Enjoy!


    TL


    Ps. I thought I saw Tracy Mcgrady on the San Antone bench.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kurt
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Spurs hang around and then go right by Miami for a 90-86 Game 1 victory.

      IMHO...

      Miami played like they couldn't lose until they did.

      Most Interesting Game Stats:

      Only 4 Spur turnovers. Miami had only 8.

      Interesting enough, Miami was outscored by 11 when Wade was on the floor but he seemed to have a good game scoring 17 points on 7-15 from the field.

      - Too many Miami players tried to get off but only got out of their roles but the San Antone players stayed in their roles and it paid off.

      - Magic said...

      The Heat played a good game and lost. And he believes SA can get better but Miami can not.

      I think Mr. James should become a wee-bit more selfish.as he only took 17 shots at the bucket.

      The dude sometimes passes the ball when he's at almost point blank range as he dances around and through the defense of SA instead of shooting.

      The question is which coach can help his team play the better ball but that's just one way of looking at this series.


      Enjoy!


      TL
      ...and Tony Parker hits one of the greatest shots in NBA finals history.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Ps. I thought I saw Tracy Mcgrady on the San Antone bench.
        Spurs signed him late in the season. McGrady finally gets past the first round of the playoffs. He may even get a ring.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        ...and Tony Parker hits one of the greatest shots in NBA finals history.

        Booyah!


        That shot was very Globetrotterish from the Frenchmen and must be added to The Greatest NBA Playoff Moments.


        If, and it's a big if, Spolstra can get Lebron to shoot more, especially when he's around the basket - with the ball instead of passing and the rest of the Heat to just play their roles:


        Battiiar: Only shoot when you have a wide, wide open shot - it's the only shot he can hit.

        Bosh: Stop trying to hit three pointers. ( he was 0-4 )

        Chalmers: Only shoot wide open jumpers, drive only when you have a clear path to the basket and be smarter when passing in traffic.


        Bosh and Chalmers shot a combined 9 of 26.

        San Antone is a smart talented team that has 3 NBA Championship battle tested veterans along with a young, smart group of well coached players and if Miami is going to win this series it's going to need everybody to play decently.


        Enjoy!


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          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Booyah!


          That shot was very Globetrotterish from the Frenchmen and must be added to The Greatest NBA Playoff Moments.

          That was a tough, clutch shot by the former Mr. Longoria. And when he slid on the floor, I had flashbacks to Curly Neil.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            I'm looking forward to game 2 although I have prior commitments that may keep me from watching the whole game. I found it strange Lebron and Wade both said the Heat were tired in game one. I mean, this is the younger team and supposedly one of the greatest of all time. San Antonio are the oldsters. Sure, Miami just played a 7 game series while the Spurs were resting, but ... come on! It just does not make sense for them to say that. I think what they are actually thinking is that they realize they are in trouble. I do expect Miami to play their best game in game 2 and probably win it, but if they don't ... it's all bad for Miami. Sweep instead of repeat.
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            • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              I'm looking forward to game 2 although I have prior commitments that may keep me from watching the whole game. I found it strange Lebron and Wade both said the Heat were tired in game one. I mean, this is the younger team and supposedly one of the greatest of all time. San Antonio are the oldsters. Sure, Miami just played a 7 game series while the Spurs were resting, but ... come on! It just does not make sense for them to say that. I think what they are actually thinking is that they realize they are in trouble. I do expect Miami to play their best game in game 2 and probably win it, but if they don't ... it's all bad for Miami. Sweep instead of repeat.

              Tired or not...

              It's a must win game for the Heat tonight.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      It's the Spurs defense. It was awesome. I didn't see Lebron dancing around and through too many Spurs really. I just don't think Lebron will have a huge series scoring wise. The Spurs will make the other guys beat them if they can. Lebron will probably get all the triple doubles he wants though.
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I think Mr. James should become a wee-bit more selfish as he only took 17 shots at the bucket.

      The dude sometimes passes the ball when he's almost at point blank range as he dances around and through the defense of SA and most of the time a "slick" pass - instead of shooting.

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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    BTW, my Nuggets lose NBA executive of the year Masai Ujiri. Then fire coach of the year George Karl. I think I'll miss Ujiri the most.
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      I like Karl. He's a good coach but it's hard to get over his playoff record. I'm not really sure what it is, but this year I can tell you the Nuggets played a team that was playing way better than they had 90% of the year and who then went on and gave the Spurs a very hard time. I bet the Nuggets would have given the Spurs a hard time also or at least play them tougher than Memphis did. The thing about firing Karl is, who is out there that is going to coach them better?

      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      BTW, my Nuggets lose NBA executive of the year Masai Ujiri. Then fire coach of the year George Karl. I think I'll miss Ujiri the most.
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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        I like Karl. He's a good coach but it's hard to get over his playoff record. I'm not really sure what it is, but this year I can tell you the Nuggets played a team that was playing way better than they had 90% of the year and who then went on and gave the Spurs a very hard time. I bet the Nuggets would have given the Spurs a hard time also or at least play them tougher than Memphis did. The thing about firing Karl is, who is out there that is going to coach them better?
        I think he should have been given at least another year since the Nuggets seem to be finally coming into their own.


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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          I like Karl. He's a good coach but it's hard to get over his playoff record. I'm not really sure what it is, but this year I can tell you the Nuggets played a team that was playing way better than they had 90% of the year and who then went on and gave the Spurs a very hard time. I bet the Nuggets would have given the Spurs a hard time also or at least play them tougher than Memphis did. The thing about firing Karl is, who is out there that is going to coach them better?
          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          I think he should have been given at least another year since the Nuggets seem to be finally coming into their own.


          TL
          Geoge Karl is a strange guy. He's a good coach, but his ego is so big that he needs to be the star of the team.

          In this case, he had a year left on his contract and wanted an extension. I understand why ownership wouldn't give it to him and wanted to see how next year would go. So Karl tried to use leverage by attaching his name to the Clippers job. Owner Kroenke doesn't play the leverage game. Bye bye Karl.

          I understand why they fired Karl, but like Tim said, who do you get that's better? I don't know if he's better, but I hope they go internal and promote assistant coach Melvin Hunt. With the Denver altitude, we need a coach that likes to run.

          The last Nuggest assistant coach to get a head job was Scott Brooks, and he's done pretty well with OKC.
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    If LeBron James want to be mentioned with the champions like Jordan, Magic, Bird and even Kobe, this is his chance to solidify that place in history. IMO, if The Heat loses this series, no one can ever throw LBJ in the same sentence as the aforementioned greats. If the rest of the team isn't playing up to par, he's gonna have to come out with that killer instinct that he showed in game 6 of that series vs. the Celtics last season. You know...that killer instinct that guys like Jordan and Kobe have when it's time to take over a game instead of playing hot potato in hopes of boosting your assist stats.
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      If LeBron James want to be mentioned with the champions like Jordan, Magic, Bird and even Kobe, this is his chance to solidify that place in history. IMO, if The Heat loses this series, no one can ever throw LBJ in the same sentence as the aforementioned greats. If the rest of the team isn't playing up to par, he's gonna have to come out with that killer instinct that he showed in game 6 of that series vs. the Celtics last season. You know...that killer instinct that guys like Jordan and Kobe have when it's time to take over a game instead of playing hot potato in hopes of boosting your assist stats.

      Do you have any prediction on tonight's' game or the series?
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      • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Do you have any prediction on tonight's' game or the series?
        I see Miami tying it tonight.
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          Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

          I see Miami tying it tonight.
          yea, nice prediction. Spurs had a really terrible run after half time, the game moves to SA now, hope they hold @ home and dont repeat the last game.. Green was awesome at the 3pt line, but they need more from Ginobili...
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Definitely was a great game but the Spurs were too good in the 4th quarter. Tony Parker must have had the ball on his hang nail as the light went on. I'm kind of glad that shot didn't matter as the Spurs won by four. Wonder why LeBron didn't shoot the ball on that last possession. Could easily see the Spurs winning this series. They are playing on a different level in the playoffs this year.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I missed most of the game.

    I thought the game started at 09:00 EST but it started at 8.

    I watched GOT with the kid until 10 and when I tuned into the games with about 7 minutes remaining, the Heat had already gone on their 35-3 run and put the game to bed.

    The Heat's new mission is to return to Miami by winning at least 1 game in SA.

    I remember when my Lakers returned to LA down 3-2 to the Pistons.

    We won games 6 nd 7 to win the series 4 games to 3!!

    That was back in 87 or 88.

    - I see Lebron scoring more points on the road.

    We'll see what happens Tuesday night.

    Enjoy!!

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Game 3 tonight at 9 EST.

    The winner of 3 game in the NBA Finals since the 2-3-2- format was introduced has gone on to win the Finals I believe 80% of the time.


    My prediction...

    Miami 97 SA 90


    Enjoy!


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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      I'm late to post this but Lebron James' block on Splitter...HOLY that was massive!
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      • Profile picture of the author flowerz
        Game 3 prediction: Close one, but Spurs will hold it under 5pts. Bosh will go over 12 pts and Ginobili over 11pts, also Tim over 16pts - if someone wants to make some extra dollarz
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I predict the Spurs will win by almost 40 points. Damn, who saw that coming?
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      I knew the Spurs would give Miami a hard time. The Spurs are Indiana with very good outside shooters. Lebron has not had a good series at all so far. Leonard, a second year player, has stopped him cold, along with some great team defense.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Flava-Flav style....


    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!


    The blowout began early in the 2nd half.


    SA Saggy Defense Works To Perfection:

    SA dared Lebron and Wade to shoot midrange jumpers and both shot only a combined 14 of 36 from the floor while Mr. James did not shoot a free throw - all game.

    None of Miami's other players save Mike Miller did anything worth noting as he continued his torrid shooting going 5 for 5 from 3 point land.

    See The Three!

    SA sank an NBA Finals record 16 3 pointers as Danny Green and Garry Neal incinerated the Heat scoring 27 and 24 respectively in a 113-77 beatdown of the defending world champs.

    Earlier in the evening - before the game, I told the wife that the Heat does not get blown out.

    I now stand corrected cause it was the 3rd worst beatdown in NBA Finals History.

    It Reminded me of the Memorial Day Massacre the Celts put on the Lakers back in 87. (or was it Mothers Day?)

    The big 3 of SA took the night off and let the young boys shine at home.

    Wade looked particularly bad and old but perhaps the knee is bothering him.

    Heavy, heavy, heavy...

    The pressure is clearly now on Miami.

    "For to lose when down 2-1 - is to sign your own death warrant."

    -TL

    Miami has always comeback with a vengeance after a loss but now?


    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




    Enjoy!

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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    I thought when Miami won game 2 by 20+ points, that'd be Miami's way of getting serious. I thought they would go ahead and get game 3. But damn....San Antonio 1'upped them by winning game 3 by 30+. LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      That was a beatdown by all accounts. Leonard has been amazing and the SA shooters seem like they cannot miss a 3, that was like 15 ish in that game which is unprecedented. Lebron hasn't stepped up yet which is why the Heat are down, but all they really need to do is win 1 on the road and then defend home court.

      It's crazy to think that SA pulled that off yesterday without Tony Parker for most of the second half.
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        Also, I read a stat somewhere that Jordan, Kobe and Lebron are now part of the 3 worst losses in NBA Finals history (or was it Playoff history). Jordan lost by 42, Kobe by 39 and now Lebron by 36.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Tonight is do or die for Miami.
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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Tonight is do or die for Miami.
      Not necessarily I'd think, all Miami needs to do is win one on the road; so either Game 4 or Game 5. Then defend home court. I agree though if they don't win today it's going to be tough to near impossible to come back and win 3 in a row against this Spurs team.
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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    Now that I look at the SA/MIA series and the MEM/SA series just last round, I can't help but wonder...just how good were the Warriors this postseason? They seemed to be the only team that has given the Spurs problems. If Golden State would have won game 1, which they only lost by 2, they would've taken the Spurs to 7 games. Then you have two tough teams like MIA and MEM that are struggling against SA. I think Golden State has something to build on next season.
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Yep. The Warriors dominated the first two games, leading something like 96 out of 101 minutes. They just had that one disaster ending of game one. They played them tougher than Memphis did that's for sure and perhaps even Miami. We'll have to wait and see about that one. I'm looking forward to next season!
      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      Now that I look at the SA/MIA series and the MEM/SA series just last round, I can't help but wonder...just how good were the Warriors this postseason? They seemed to be the only team that has given the Spurs problems. If Golden State would have won game 1, which they only lost by 2, they would've taken the Spurs to 7 games. Then you have two tough teams like MIA and MEM that are struggling against SA. I think Golden State has something to build on next season.
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      Originally Posted by Sean Tudor Carter View Post

      Now that I look at the SA/MIA series and the MEM/SA series just last round, I can't help but wonder...just how good were the Warriors this postseason? They seemed to be the only team that has given the Spurs problems. If Golden State would have won game 1, which they only lost by 2, they would've taken the Spurs to 7 games. Then you have two tough teams like MIA and MEM that are struggling against SA. I think Golden State has something to build on next season.
      Except that they are in salary cap hell, for the most part.

      It's unlikely they can bring back Jarrett Jack and Carl Landry - two guys who were a big part of their postseason success.

      Someone will give Jack some cash this offseason....and chances are Landry declines his player option to try and secure a better long term deal.

      GS's problem is even though they lose those two guys, Curry comes off his rookie deal and gets a salary bump per the extension he signed....add in the bumps to Bogut, Lee, and Jefferson and the Warriors salary will stay the same even with the $9 million of Landry and Jack coming off.

      Paying Biedrins and Jefferson $20 mil next yr and getting nothing from them hurts.

      The good news is they have about $38 mil in expiring deals that come off AFTER next yr (Bogut, Jefferson, Biedrins, and Rush) so maybe they can move some of that thru a trade to take on a player with more years who actually contributes (unlike Biedrins and Jefferson).

      They will HAVE to find someone to replace Jack's playmaking and ballhandling, otherwise too much of that load will fall on Curry, which wouldn't be good.

      And it won't come thru the Draft, because Utah owns the Warriors #1 pick.(They don't have a 2nd round pick either...)

      Luckily for them they still have Curry, Thompson, and Lee...and Bogut is at least a factor again. Plus Mark Jackson is impressive as their coach....and they added some good young talent last year with Barnes, Ezeli, and Draymond Green.

      But they will HAVE to find a replacement for Jack...somehow.
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        Yes, look to having Barnes control the ball a lot more as a point forward next year, among other options. I would love to keep Jack but it may not be possible. Hopefully we at least keep Landry.
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        But they will HAVE to find a replacement for Jack...somehow.
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  • Profile picture of the author maark
    Will make a bold prediction today and go for Miami by a few pts. LeFlop cant play worse than he did, and Parker is so so, Green just cant repeat the 3rd game shooting streak.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    A series full of surprises:

    Lead by The Big Three, (who took 64 of Miami's 85 shots) Miami's offense comes alive as they scratch and claw their way to a 109-93 escape from San Antone for we are headed back to Miami for game #6 for sure and game #7 - if necessary.

    Veteran sharpshooter Ray Allen showed up with 14 points in the most critical game of the season to date.

    - Miami's after loss victory streak stays intact and ties this series at 2 games apiece.

    Miami lead at the end of the 1st period and through t the 2nd but SA flurried in the last 2 minutes to go into halftime with the game tied @49.

    I think Pat Reilly stood for most of the 2nd half.

    At the 11:00 minute mark of the 4th, with Lebron on the bench Mr. Wade takes over the game (going a total of 14 of 25) and by the time he was finished Miami had a 12 point lead with about 3 to go.


    Stats Of The Game: (IMHO)

    - Blocks: 7 by Miami:

    - Turnovers: 18 by SA

    - FG%: Heat %52.9

    My Bottom line:

    SA exerted scoring pressure on Miami all game long but Miami responded by hitting their shots and forcing 18 turnovers while only committing 9 themselves.

    Youngsters Danny Green and Gary Neal continued their out of this world 3point shooting going 6-9 but if only they had shot more 3pointers as Miami was forced to respect them and thus limited their 3point shot attempts.

    The Future Of This Series:

    I predicted Miami to win in 6 and that is still a possibility but of course we'll have to see.

    I think Miami will win the series and I'd like to see them win but if it is not to be - who gives a _____?


    Not I, not really.

    I found that if I root for one of the teams the series and games are whole lot more exciting and as soon as the game or series is over it's over- especially when none of the teams involved are the Lakers.

    When my Lakers lost to the hated Celts in 2010 I mourned for about 30 minutes and then moved on - but it was fun.

    I'll be sad to see the end of the NBA Season because it means 4 months without football or basketball.

    Maybe I'll get into the WNBA.

    Enjoy!!


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  • Profile picture of the author Young Financier
    ^^^ If you do venture into WNBA basketball, check out Minnesota's Maya Moore. One of my favorite players in any basketball league.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    I don't think we've seen both teams play their "A" game at the same time in a game yet. Hard to tell who is the better team. It's like ping pong. I could see the Spurs bouncing back and winning Game 5 and this thing going 7. Going to be a great three game series now.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    As Dick Enberg use to say...

    Oh my!!!

    Miami is in serious trouble.

    They've got to win 2 in a row at home to win the title.

    ( something they haven't done on about 12 games)

    Genobli comes alive to befuddle Miami.

    I didn't know that these two teams were the top two scoring teams in the NBA.

    Miami just could not keep up with SA last night.

    Every time Miami came close, SA would spurt - especially near the end of the 1st half and the 3rd period.

    Enjoy!


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    • Profile picture of the author senthu
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      As Dick Enberg use to say...

      Oh my!!!

      Miami is in serious trouble.

      They've got to win 2 in a row at home to win the title.

      ( something they haven't done on about 12 games)

      Genobli comes alive to befuddle Miami.

      I didn't know that these two teams were the top two scoring teams in the NBA.

      Miami just could not keep up with SA last night.

      Every time Miami came close, SA would spurt - especially near the end of the 1st half and the 3rd period.

      Enjoy!


      TL
      And Danny Green man oh man what a performance by him this series. Already passed Ray Allen's record in only 5 games haha he's shooting out of this world right now. I still think it's possible for Miami to win 2 in a row at home though but it's going to be tough since SA is the tougest team they've faced in the past 2 years.
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  • Profile picture of the author Christophe Young
    Ok, so Miami will win Game 6 by double digits, then let's get ready for an epic Game 7 on Thursday! Flip a coin on that one.
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      Originally Posted by Christophe Young View Post

      Ok, so Miami will win Game 6 by double digits, then let's get ready for an epic Game 7 on Thursday! Flip a coin on that one.

      I predicted it wouldn't go more than 6 with Miami winning so now, for many reasons I'm hoping for a game 7.

      Enjoy!


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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Great move by Popovich in starting Ginolbili in game 5. It worked. Best game by Ginobili in the playoffs and having both him and Parker driving the basket leaves people like Green to shoot the three. Now, on the other hand, we have the Miami coach who isn't playing one of his best bench players now. Chris Andersen hasn't played at all in the last two games. I really don't get this. As someone who is pulling for the Spurs I know how the Birdman can be very effective. To just stop playing him is hard to understand. To me it shows a big victory by Popovich, who is controlling a lot more of the game than people are talking about. Great coach! But then again, it's hard to coach three point shooting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It will be tough for the Spurs to close out the Heat, who have their backs against the wall for more than one reason. And, it seems the Heat play their best with their backs against the wall.

    On the other hand, the Spurs won't back down or beat themselves. I believe the Spurs are 7-2 on the road this playoff season and have an incredible close out record in the playoffs during the Timmy/Pop era.

    BTW, Timmy/Pop are now the longest player/coach combo in history.
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    Welcome back Kurt!

    Halftime Report:

    Everything was going great for Miami until...

    ... Miami just can not stop SA from spurting at the end of the each half.

    ( look out for the last 3 minutes of the 3rd period also )

    It has happened numerous times in this series.

    If Miami is to win they must start hitting jumpers cause SA won't give them anything else.

    Enjoy what may be the last game of the season!

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    Why didn't the Spurs foul on that last possession??????????? (in regulation)

    I never understand why teams don't do that lol
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    What a game!

    I do not want to see Miami in the finals next year.

    That was a game for the ages.

    Early...

    Miami lead by 2-4 points until a SA flurry in the final 4 mins of the 2nd (in which Miami went scoreless) SA goes up by 6 at the half.

    It was a 17-4 run.

    SA holds a 5-8 point lead through most of the 3rd and by the end of the 3rd, SA's up by around 10 and I take a bathroom break.

    When Miami was down by around 11 and looking like they had wilted - at around the 4 minute mark of the 3rd...










































    .... I switched sides, yes switched sides.


    I became quite tired of Lebron and his crap.


    I started rooting for SA and wanted them to put Miami out of their misery once and for all because I thought that this is no way for a champion to go down.

    I could see the headlines like...

    "The Heat Fizzle".


    But...

    Spokska asked his team to give him their finest 4th period of the season and they did.

    ( I think he used the word quarter )

    I take a bathroom break at the end of the 3rd and...

    What do you know, when I return, the lead is now only 7 with about 10 to go.

    Miami slowly whittles away at SA's lead and ...

    Then the game is tied at 89 with 1:03 to go.

    Peter Parker, I mean Tony Parker takes over and now...

    - I thought it was over when SA was up by 5 with only 28 ticks remaining but they couldn't hit both free throws on two occasions and Miami cans two 3Pointers to send the game into...


    Overtime! (95-95)


    Miami outlasts SA for a 103-100 victory.


    Miami was on the brink of the abyss and survived.


    Ray Allen showed up big with 9 4th period and OT points and the play of the day.

    - My most outstanding stat of the game:

    Miami made 6 more 3Pointers than SA an 18 point difference.


    Thank God for game 7's and I do not want to see a blowout by either team.



    I predicted Miami in 6, will it be Miami in 7?



    I still say I'm sick of Miami but they fought like true champions.


    Can I switch sides again??


    Enjoy!


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      No, you can't switch again TL. Only one time per finals is the rule.

      Great game. I am thinking the Spurs blew their chance to win it all. They can still do it but somehow I think game 6 was it for them. So many opportunities. Ginobili 8 turnovers drove me nutts. Duncan only 5 points after an amazing first half. Parker going cold most of the game. Green missing threes.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        No, you can't switch again TL. Only one time per finals is the rule.

        Great game. I am thinking the Spurs blew their chance to win it all. They can still do it but somehow I think game 6 was it for them. So many opportunities. Ginobili 8 turnovers drove me nutts. Duncan only 5 points after an amazing first half. Parker going cold most of the game. Green missing threes.

        So be it Tim but that was one crazy game no matter who anyone wanted to win.


        All The Best!!


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    Game 6 was insane! Nail biting to the last second.

    I'll be watching Game 7.

    I don't have a favorite team of the two, but the drama is just so intense!
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    Game 7 tonight!

    My pick is Miami 97-94 but nothing would surprise me tonight and I do want to see a blowout.
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    Congrats to the Heat. Lebron showed why he's the best player alive. Spurs prove they are the equal of the Heat and with a difference bounce or two, they could well have been champs.

    It does ruin my perfect prediction record, but 7-1 isn't too bad.
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    Lebron and Heat get the last laugh with the 1st back-to-back NBA Championships since my Lakers performed the task in 87-88.

    I'm included since I switched sides at the 4 minute mark of the 3rd period in game #6.

    - Shane B. shows up with 6 3Pointers, much like Mike M. did for the Heat - last year.


    Stat Of The Game:

    - For the 2nd game in a row, Heat outscore Spurs by 18 HUGE points in 3Point baskets.

    - Spurs hit 6 of 19 but Heat hit 12 of 32.

    - Chris Bosh = 0 points and took only 5 shots.

    - Kwhy Leonard shows great promise.

    - Timmy misses chippy and point blank tip-in that would have tied the game - late.

    - D. Green was shut down for 2nd consecutive game on 1 for 12 from the field.

    - D. Wade has a solid game shooting 11 of 21 from the field.

    - Lebron hurts SA from the outside with 5 of 10 from 3Point Land and 12 of 23 from the floor total for 37 BIG points as he also shuts down TP.

    - I don't want to see the Heat in the finals next year.


    - Kurt takes WF NBA Playoff Prediction Championship:

    Congrats Kurt!


    Season Over...

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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Lebron and Heat get the last laugh with the 1st back-to-back NBA Championships since my Lakers performed the task in 87-88.
      Huh? Your lakers won a back to back in 2009 and 2010. Before that they won three in a row in 2000, 2001, and 2002. Pistons also won a back to back in 1989 and 1990. The Bulls won two threepeats after that. Oh, and the Rockets won back to back after 87-88 also. lol

      OK, congrats to Miami. They deserved it, but clearly showed they aren't as dominant and unbeatable as some were saying. The Spurs are going to be kicking themselves about this one for a long time. I hope Ginobili retires. He lost the series for them imo. Just terrible turnovers and only one good game out of 7. I definitely don't want the Heat to win any more Championships because right now they are tied with my Warriors with three, along with the 76ers and the Pistons.
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Huh? Your lakers won a back to back in 2009 and 2010. Before that they won three in a row in 2000, 2001, and 2002. Pistons also won a back to back in 1989 and 1990. The Bulls won two threepeats after that. Oh, and the Rockets won back to back after 87-88 also. lol

        OK, congrats to Miami. They deserved it, but clearly showed they aren't as dominant and unbeatable as some were saying. The Spurs are going to be kicking themselves about this one for a long time. I hope Ginobili retires. He lost the series for them imo. Just terrible turnovers and only one good game out of 7.

        I definitely don't want the Heat to win any more Championships because right now they are tied with my Warriors with three, along with the 76ers and the Pistons.
        Wow!

        How could I be so wrong?

        I guess that was wishful historic revisionism - of just not knowing what I'm talking about.

        I don't want to see Miami in the finals next year and hopefully it's going to get tougher and tougher for them to get to the finals with IND and CHI at full strength in the upcoming years.

        All The Best!!

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