Who Else Finds the Private Forum Ads Distracting?

Frank Donovan

13 years ago

I take it you don't visit many other forums.

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johnben1444 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

I take it you don't visit many other forums.

I guess that is why i care less about them.:p
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alistair

13 years ago

I don't visit many other forums and agree it is slightly annoying but I can live with it.

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MissTerraK 13 years ago

I don't find it annoying at all and hardly ever even notice it.

I guess some people just don't handle even a little change very well.

Terra
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Kay King

13 years ago

You are a free member (which is why you see the War Room ad banner) - you use this forum to advertise YOUR stuff for free in your signature.

You are not in a position of strength to complain about the forum, in my opinion.

Ads are the price you pay for using resources and running ads that cost you nothing. Deal with it:rolleyes:

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johnben1444

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Kay King

You are a free member (which is why you see the War Room ad banner) - you use this forum to advertise YOUR stuff for free in your signature.

Ads are the price you pay for using resources and running ads that cost you nothing. Deal with it:rolleyes:

WF is free for a reason and will continue to be free for a reason.

Remember, they say the best gift of life is FREE.

Just because an item or service is free does not mean it should come out cheap or tell it to your eyes that you are getting less value because it's free.

You are not in a position of strength to complain about the forum, in my opinion.

Pls can you say WHY?

Because it's free to join.

I bet WF won't be happy with you for saying this..

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Because it's free to join.

Not any more it's not.

You're "grandfathered in" because you were a member before it started, but as of 11 AM or so today, there is a $10 minimum fee to join the forum.

Why? Lots of reasons. One of the smaller ones, but still significant, is people complaining about what they get (make that 'got') for free.

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Not any more it's not.

You're "grandfathered in" because you were a member before it started, but as of 11 AM or so today, there is a $10 minimum fee to join the forum.

Why? Lots of reasons. One of the smaller ones, but still significant, is people complaining about what they get (make that 'got') for free.

Paul

Wow, I never thought the entire forum would become paid. I'm not complaining, just surprised.

This actually could be a good thing for helping to thin out link spammers, most will move on to free forums for links.

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MissTerraK

13 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Wow, I never thought the entire forum would become paid. I'm not complaining, just surprised.

This actually could be a good thing for helping to thin out link spammers, most will move on to free forums for links.

I like the way you think.

I was just wondering if trolls would pay to troll, lol!

Hopefully they'll take a stroll and troll elsewhere now.

Terra

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Not any more it's not.

You're "grandfathered in" because you were a member before it started, but as of 11 AM or so today, there is a $10 minimum fee to join the forum.

Why? Lots of reasons. One of the smaller ones, but still significant, is people complaining about what they get (make that 'got') for free.

Paul

Awesome! I see (or hope for) two immediate benefits:

1. Fewer spammers!
2. Fewer trouble-makers since they know if they get banned they can't just sign up under another name, it'll cost 'em money.

I think the first will happen, not so sure about the second.

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Mark Singletary

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Not any more it's not.

You're "grandfathered in" because you were a member before it started, but as of 11 AM or so today, there is a $10 minimum fee to join the forum.

I saw that earlier. Not worried -- I've already paid for access in one way or another several times over the years and would again.

However...there are a few people I wish you would "grandfather" OUT. Know what I mean? Probably not a snowball's chance but...

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Not any more it's not.

You're "grandfathered in" because you were a member before it started, but as of 11 AM or so today, there is a $10 minimum fee to join the forum.

Why? Lots of reasons. One of the smaller ones, but still significant, is people complaining about what they get (make that 'got') for free.

Paul

Wow. Maybe the main forum will go back to this: Where We Talk About Making Money

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Michael Mayo 13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

Wow. Maybe the main forum will go back to this: Where We Talk About Making Money

Now that would be GREAT!

I've stopped visiting the main forum here lately because of all the noise.

I miss the old days of discussions on who, what, when, where, why and how to make money.

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travlinguy

13 years ago

I'm not in the habit of going into someone's house and complaining about the decor.

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johnben1444 13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

I'm not in the habit of going into someone's house and complaining about the decor.

True friends get to tell themselves what is good and bad.

If i happen to visit a friend of mine and i discovered he has a new paint that looks odds or appear gay like, i will be the first to shout it out to him.

I have been here long enough and love this forum for it's mode of operation, there is nothing wrong if i see something odd and decides to voice out.
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13 years ago

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yukon Banned 13 years ago

I always thought it was odd that I still see a banner for joining the "Warrior Forum" while I'm logged into the "Warrior Forum".

Wasted banner space, IMO.
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- KimW 13 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  I always thought it was odd that I still see a banner for joining the "Warrior Forum" while I'm logged into the "Warrior Forum".
  
  Wasted banner space, IMO.
  
  I think that is relatively new too.
  I'd say it was just the past month or so that appeared,but I could be wrong.
  
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  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  I always thought it was odd that I still see a banner for joining the "Warrior Forum" while I'm logged into the "Warrior Forum".
  
  Wasted banner space, IMO.
  
  I forgot to mention that too, i actually started noticing it about a week or so.
  
  The first time i saw it, i thought i was a new member lol, there is no need for existing members to see a sign up page.
  
  And for the "The War Room" banner, it's actually a bit problem for some of us that uses smart phones to access WF occasionally, you hardly can give thanks because it blocks the "Thank You" link..
  
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LarryC

13 years ago

I think everyone has a right to voice an opinion about a forum, whether they own it or not and whether they are a paying member or not. Ultimately, a public forum depends on its members and here at the Warrior Forum everyone is a moderator. As long as you're reasonable and polite about it, you are helping the forum by expressing your opinion. Saying that you shouldn't criticize a forum sounds too much to me like people who say you're unpatriotic if you criticize your government.

That said, I don't find the banner distracting at all. In fact, I probably would never have even noticed it if it weren't for threads talking about it.

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Kay King

13 years ago

The criticism is about a forum that is privately owned and privately supported. Most people in business understand the profit motive and make the connection to advertising.

Then again, some don't make that connection.

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Dennis Gaskill

13 years ago

Originally Posted by johnben1444

True friends get to tell themselves what is good and bad.

If i happen to visit a friend of mine and i discovered he has a new paint that looks odds or appear gay like, i will be the first to shout it out to him.

Is Allen your friend? If not, you're comparing apples and oranges.

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by LarryC

Saying that you shouldn't criticize a forum sounds too much to me like people who say you're unpatriotic if you criticize your government.

Not even close. Theoretically anyway, we all have a voice in government. This is a private concern. We don't get a voice in how the owner runs the place.

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LarryC

13 years ago

Originally Posted by travlinguy

Not even close. Theoretically anyway, we all have a voice in government. This is a private concern. We don't get a voice in how the owner runs the place.

One person may own a forum, but it's still a public space that depends on its members. If I started a forum, sure I could make any rules I want but it wouldn't be very popular if I didn't consider the opinions of the members.

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travlinguy

13 years ago

Originally Posted by LarryC

One person may own a forum, but it's still a public space that depends on its members. If I started a forum, sure I could make any rules I want but it wouldn't be very popular if I didn't consider the opinions of the members.

I think management here has been more than patient listening to opinions. On any given day you can go to the main forum and pull up a half dozen threads where someone is outright complaining about something here or elsewhere. Personally, I don't come here to read people complaining. The OP was complaining. Period. Many members are sick of the constant petty complaining.

As for legitimate suggestions and opinions, sure. But as I just mentioned, admin here does listen, way more than I would if I were running the joint.

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Michael Mayo

13 years ago

If you were a War Room Member you wouldn't see the War Room ad and you are complaining about the "Want To Run Your Own Private Forum Section?" - Contact Me!" ad that takes up 1/60th of your browser screen while surfing the Warrior Forum?

The War Room is a repository of Gold and the option to Run your own Private Forum Section on the Warrior Forum is Platinum for the knowledgeable marketer!

The Coffee is over there ----> and the Roses are over there ---->

Good Luck to You!

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

It's not a big deal If that banner (Join WF) stays or goes, just thought I would mention I'm a WF member & still see a "Join WF" banner, while I'm already logged in.

I just want everyone to be happy, lol.

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KimW

13 years ago

Same here Mark.
Allen is a good example of not being afraid to fail,and also the fact that people remember successes and forget the failures.

There have been a couple of offshoot ventures from The Warrior Forum that had additional fees to them and I gladly paid them,but they are long gone.
Did I complain? No, I tried to learn from what happened instead.

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HeySal

13 years ago

Ah, crap. You guys had a BBQ and I missed it.

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Kay King 13 years ago

Makes me wonder- do bots have paypal accounts? If not, could be a rough place for them going forward. Shucky-darn....poor bots.
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13 years ago

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Yukon,

Wow, I never thought the entire forum would become paid. I'm not complaining, just surprised.

Why? It started out that way. $37 or $47, and nothing like the current value.

Ask Steve (seasoned) or KimW or Kurt or Mark Singletary or Mike Ambrosio or a ton of other still-active members...

Joseph,

Well, as of right now the "Want to Run Your Own Private Forum Section" banner is gone.

Once it's been explained, it will be back. And folks like johnben1444 will be cutting their own throats for not thinking about what it meant.

But then, most of our members from Nigeria couldn't join in the fun anyway.

Paul

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Paul Myers 13 years ago

Kay,

you use this forum to advertise YOUR stuff for free in your signature.

Not any more he doesn't.

I am probably just about as sick of the "I can't have everything I want for free, so I'm going to create villains" crap as Allen is.

As an old boss of mine used to say, many years ago, "Loose cannons go overboard."

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Yukon,Why? It started out that way. $37 or $47, and nothing like the current value.

Ask Steve (seasoned) or KimW or Kurt or Mark Singletary or Mike Ambrosio or a ton of other still-active members...l

The reason I was surprised was I've been here two years & it's always been free (besides the War Room).

Again, I'm not complaining. I would most likely pay higher If it was required to be a member. I think the payed membership is a good thing, it will defiantly help remove the fake comments spammers/bots post in order to drop links.

This subject does bring up an interesting marketing idea. Even when something was once free, people will still pay for the same product (in this case a forum membership).

Looking at the Google Cache for the main forums members count, I see at least 6 new members that I suppose have paid $10 for a membership.

587,625 - 587,619 = 6

That Google Cache is todays date so it's been less than 24 hours since Google did the Cache, I'm sure there's been more than 6 new members sign up under the paid membership.

I guess my point is, I'm thinking maybe I should try this on my own sites considering I give away a lot of free content (2,500+ pages) in order to generate traffic (traffic lure). I have 3 sites in the same niche, I might test this on one site to see what happens.

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MikeAmbrosio

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Yukon,Why? It started out that way. $37 or $47, and nothing like the current value.

Ask Steve (seasoned) or KimW or Kurt or Mark Singletary or Mike Ambrosio or a ton of other still-active members...

Paul

I recall it being $47 when I joined back in 2000 or 2001. I remember because I was very deep in debt back then and the $47 was something I had to budget...

I lived on that "hidden" page with all the downloads. Still remember the UN and PW too

The ads don't bother me. I am a War Room member so the only one I saw was the forum ad at the bottom of the page. It stood out because of the colors...but after about 15 minutes I stopped noticing it.

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yukon

Banned 13 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio

I recall it being $47 when I joined back in 2000 or 2001. I remember because I was very deep in debt back then and the $47 was something I had to budget...

I lived on that "hidden" page with all the downloads. Still remember the UN and PW too

The ads don't bother me. I am a War Room member so the only one I saw was the forum ad at the bottom of the page. It stood out because of the colors...but after about 15 minutes I stopped noticing it.

I only noticed the banner to join the forum while I was logged in because I click the link that has my member name that goes to my profile (link directly below the banner). The banner isn't a big deal, it just doesn't serve any purpose (I'm already a member).

IMO, that banner asking to join the Warrior Forum (while already logged in) is prime real estate on the web page, simply because the location of the member link directly below the banner that points to the profile page. I'm sure most members click that link multiple times a day (I know I do).

Personally, I would be selling that specific banner location (top/right of page) for Ad space for anyone that's logged in. Not that I like being hit with banners, never know, I might see something IM related that I'm interested in buying.

I'm also a War Room member, I still see the banner to join. When I click that banner/link the page tells me I'm already registered.

Again (everyone), I'm not trying to nit pick, just some end user feedback.

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kenmichaels

13 years ago

dumb question ... maybe... can non members still access and purchase WSO's ?

or do they have to sign up first ?

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Originally Posted by kenmichaels

dumb question ... maybe... can non members still access and purchase WSO's ?

Not dumb. And yes, they can.

Paul

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

JohnBen1444,

You want to complain about Allen's advertising to you? I turned off your free advertising to the X,xxx,xxx members of this forum.

Now. How does that trade look, sir?

Paul

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Paul Myers 13 years ago

True friends get to tell themselves what is good and bad.

True friends don't lie to each other about where they're from.

WF is free for a reason and will continue to be free for a reason.

Wow. "Will continue to be free" a mere 7 hours before that stopped being true.

People like you are part of the reason this site is no longer free for everyone.

Happy?

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johnben1444

13 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

JohnBen1444,

You want to complain about Allen's advertising to you? I turned off your free advertising to the X,xxx,xxx members of this forum.

Now. How does that trade look, sir?

Paul

I have been away and just got back to see i have created a lot of catastrophy, not because my sig is gone but because revolution is everywhere.

It's actually a welcome idea because i can freely talk because am paying to be here.

About the ads that cause the whole issue, are you guys still bringing it here, if yes, find a better place to have it positioned.

I actually love the new steps and changes WF is taking now, i have been anticipating things like this.

This will help fight spam and keep the forum cleaner.

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Kay King 13 years ago

i can freely talk because am paying to be here.

You are grandfathered in - so still have paid nothing. You were free to talk before - but not always free to complain. I doubt that will change.
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Mark Singletary

13 years ago

Originally Posted by johnben1444

It's actually a welcome idea because i can freely talk because am paying to be here.

Actually (and I'm sure Paul or someone will correct me if wrong) paying does not give you any more freedom, leeway, or right to do anything. For example, I've heard that they sometimes ban WSO sellers (have paid) or other long time members (regardless of when or if they paid).

"Paying" your way into a party at my house by, for example, buying drinks or bringing chips does NOT give you the right to harass my wife, pee on the carpet, get too loud, talk bad to the other guests, etc. I'll kick you out and still eat your chips or drink your stuff.

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Paul Myers

13 years ago

Mark,

Actually (and I'm sure Paul or someone will correct me if wrong) paying does not give you any more freedom, leeway, or right to do anything. For example, I've heard that they sometimes ban WSO sellers (have paid) or other long time members (regardless of when or if they paid).

No correction needed.

Paying doesn't make anyone exempt from the rules.

We occasionally get sellers or advertisers who become quite peeved when they talk about how much they spend here and are told the moderators don't take that into account.

You would think they'd know that, since the rules for advertising are clearly posted in each section.

Paul

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- Mark Singletary 13 years ago
  
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  I said SORRY. Can we stop bringing that up?
  
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mojojuju

13 years ago

Ads? I think the off-topic forum is what's distracting. I have things to do but I spent five minutes being distracted and reading every post of this thread. Please stop distracting me from my work, off topic.

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