I figured out the secret of life

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... and I wanted to share it with you guys, to see what you think!

It came to me in the form of a theory. I call it my 'theory of existence,' at least for now. After all, it's only a day old. Anyway, here goes - keep in mind that I'd suggest setting aside 2-3 minutes to read it through and really digest it before commenting back. Trust me, it'll make for clearer thinking, as it may get complicated.

GOALS
1) To understand why we exist.
2) To explain how people generally perceive their existance.
3) To juxtapose all things as 'black and white' by simplifying them down to their essence (and, consequently, eliminating 'gray areas.')
4) To fathom the sacred simplicity of what everyone wants in life.
5) To contemplate further ideas about ideallistic values such as love, peace and prosperity.

ASSUMPTIONS
1) All consciousness is a judgement between right or wrong.
2) Certain natural things are accepted as 'right.'
3) We believe in the promotion of right things.
4) Things that we perceive as 'not right' are things that feel repulsive.
5) The combination of our experiences makes up our religion.

CRITICISM
1) The words 'right' and 'wrong' are too vague for interpretation.
2) 'Natural' things only seem so because we, observers, deem them as such.
3) Our beliefs, in and of themselves, are irrelevant.
4) There are varying degrees of 'acceptance' and 'repulsion.'
5) Religion is faith; experiences are real; therefore, experiences are not
religious.

REBUTTAL OF CRITICISM
1) Although 'right' and 'wrong' may be poorly defined terms, they can be substituted for opposing pairs of terms that any one person can determine as such. For instance, excessive greed vs. philanthropy.
2) 'Natural' things are those that will maintain themselves without human interaction. For instance, rivers and mountains which have outlived many species are 'Natural.'
3) Our beliefs are relevant to ourselves, despite possibly being irrelevant to outsiders.
4) This theory's goal is to Understand / Explain, not to Prescribe / Control.
5) To say that experiences are independent of religion have to renounce their own set of beliefs, as they would not be able to have them if they did not experience an emotion that provoked said religious thought.

APPLICABLE EXAMPLES
1) "All consciousness is a judgement between righteousness [positivity, enthusiasm, love] or wrongness [negativity, laziness, hate]."
2) "Certain natural things [lakes, oceans, clear skies] are accepted as 'right.'"
3) "We believe in the promotion of right [morality, brotherhood, peace] things."
4) "Things that we perceive as "not right" [war, jealousy, dissonance] feel repulsive."
5) "The combination of our experiences [childhood, school, work, marriage, family deaths] makes up our religion."

The "assumptions" are really the meat and bones here, but I added the other 4 sections just to elaborate!
#off topic forum #secret of life #theory existence
  • Vip-ip, I dare say you are the genius of the year!
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    • As I began questioning myself, I realized how there are 2 sides to each coin; I would ask myself, "can life really be THAT simple?" or "what would someone really religious, or really atheist, say to this?"

      I figured that using 'good' and 'bad' or 'right' and 'wrong' does my theory justice, because of how interchangeable they are, and because they eliminate uncertainties, or so-called "in-betweens."

      Regards,
      vip-ip ...
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  • I see an outline here for reacting to life with critical thinking -- but you forgot the conclusion. All you've given is observation. I want the freaking SECRET.
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    • Ahh, the secret By the way, if anyone's seen the movie, PM me and we can chat about it if you want :p

      Much like my "toe", the secret itself (not the movie, but this thread) is a double-edged sword. Your observation is correct, it's just an outline to reacting to life, and in that reaction, I... discover the secret!

      It wouldn't REALLY be secret if I told you, now... would it?

      Here's a movie clip (it's under 4 minutes) that sums up how I feel about applying my outline. Without too much plot information, the main character (Will Ferrell) hears a voice in his head that narrates his life, and the professor (Dustin Hoffman) that he is talking to told him who the actual book author voice is. He went to meet her, found out he is a hero in her new book, and he knows that she has killed off every hero in the past 10 books. The author gave the manuscript to the professor, who has to tell the main character that he has to die, otherwise the book is no good. Enjoy. And if you like to read, then here is a piece that follows right after that clip:

      Regards,
      vip-ip ...
  • Thanks for sharing VIP-IP

    A good reference for the secret to life is;
    Tom Campbells 'My Big Toe' ('Toe' being the acronym for 'Theory Of Everything')

    Views from a Nuclear Physicist who has blended theory with practice by relating his personal experiences with OBE/out of body travel/astral travel/remote viewing etc.
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  • The secret to life is "becoming". We spend our lives becoming. We continue to become by surviving death.

    You don't have to be religious to have morals. Who thought of that one. You can be scientific - understand that energy cannot be extinquished, only tranformed "becoming". Your motivation is to strive for creative, positive energy that will result in a vibrating frequency that will attract things that vibrate harmoniously with your frequency.

    BTW -- the Secret was marketing. Not much new at all - just some real damned good marketing. There was no secret given. Just some teasers.
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    • Bam. And my OP is an analytical framework of understanding this very concept. Again, not prescriptive, but observational.

      I guess the 6th criticism would then be, "I don't want to be an onlooker; who cares about people-watching, I need a SMART goal to get my life in order!"

      To which I'd shrug and say, "sorry."

      We all have disorder to get rid of. That's the nature of the energy flowing. Evolving. Growing. From greater uncertainty, to greater certainty. From darkness, into illumination.

      Regards,
      vip-ip ...
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  • Whoah. Yeah WEpedia - sick em, buddy. I'm impressed.

    Ya get that from the Aremic version or were you digging through King James version of it? Oh yeah - big difference in the morality structure. LMAO.
    Okay, so dude. Um...............Greg is it? Hmmm. So you are saying that someone who is athiest has no reason to be a decent person? I happen to not be religious. I believe in science. God = energy. It is not judgemental - it reacts to different frequencies differently. Your free will allows you build the correct frequencies. God doesn't "care", "he" connects and conducts.

    Okay - some people call that athiesm, since the gods of most religion are personified and thusly attributed with having human emotion "caring". Some people considered Athiests are actually Quantum physics oriented. Many of us believe in a personally disinterested energy at the core. To connect -- you must resonate accordingly............and that results in "morals".
    So the holier than thou..............stops .................................here.
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  • Started out in biz school, got accepted off-campus an hour away. Also, taking prerequisites for the business school made me realize how much c***suckery goes on - starting with applications, and it doesn't end until you climb up someone else's ladder, and MAYBE become an exec at some firm. Seeing as that's 40 hours of commute there-and-back each month, I switched to Communications. Best decision I ever made. Teaches me everything I needed to learn - and everything Biz School is designed to hide from your sight. Thanks to this revelation, I am now learning how to build my own ladders. Biz school is designed to teach you to run someone else's systems, not build new ones. Comm tells you how people think and interact - far more valuable, IMO, than what "new product development steps" are or why a balance sheet differs from an income statement.

    I toy around with philosophy/spirituality just for kicks. One of my first IM clients is a philosophy professor in FL, coolest/smartest guy I've ever met. He loves epistemology.

    Regards,
    vip-ip...
  • Dude you need to be in some philosophy courses. Trust me on this one. Logic 101 and 102 will blow your head apart. Serious. That will completely flip your poles. It's business related, too, so it's not like it's wasting time toward your degree. From looking at your OP, I think you'd dig it strongly.
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  • On a hypothetical note, if there is a God , and he is fair, then the natural law of karma is the most fair scale of justice there could be in existence. It would be automated justice. I believe it works on a vibrational level.

    Ps.

    I think Rudyard Kipling best describes the meaning of life in a line from his poem "If..."

    "...If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew to serve your turn, long after they are gone..., and so hold on, when there is nothing in you, except the will, which says to them hold on..."

    What is your will...? Its what you leave behind. When you write poetry like Rudyard did, it forces your heart and nerve and sinew to serve your turn long after they are gone...
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    • Hmmmm, better post this while l can; and for the record l am doing my best to keep religion out of my threads, (some are quoting from the bible, l am trying to keep away from that).


      I won't comment on the thread l did before, because l can't really answer that without sounding like l have been at the lemon sherbert!

      But, scientifically, l will say this, there was a man in Australia who developed a SQUID, (basically stands for a helium cooled imaging system).

      This imaging system allows you to see the human aura or electromagnetic energy field in real time, (or the colors). Nothing new age there, everyone knows we have a small electrical charge, but the thing is that the human aura also has blobs of energy, which could be proven that they are intelligent and independent beings. Or spirit guides.

      And other seriously cool stuff, basically prove that there is more to life than meets the eye.

      But, every-time he develops this device, gov, officials confiscate this device, etc!!!

      Usual, BS, if gov, officials actually told us the real truth, l think that most people would be in a state of shock!!!


      So, true you don't have to kill an athiest, to get them to believe, just show them, prefibaly in a secret lab!!!! :rolleyes:

      Shane
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    • Karma, when treated as a law rather than a possibility, actually destroys any basis for morality. Why? Because it's a universal justifier.

      Under a strict view of karma, all events (beyond the very first) represent justice being worked out, and therefore whatever happens to someone, it can be said that "they had it coming", whether due to their own fault or the fault of some ancestor, etc.

      This makes every atrocity justifiable and effectively nullifies judgments of good and evil. "All is good, all is god" becomes the mantra, which is frankly a dangerous outlook.
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  • There's that, there's HAARP, there's ... a lot of stuff. But that's more so government conspiracies, I'm talking about living a life of meaning & purpose, UNDER those conspiracies

    Regards,
    vip-ip...
  • Do you actually think these are the secrets and can you prove that?
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    • Good question. These aren't separate secrets - I think of them as parts of a grander constituency. You can't prove it, much like you can't prove that asbestos is safe until it starts killing people. Or that a doctor has a proven cure, until he cures 1,000 patients.

      Life is like medicine or law: you don't do it, you practice it.

      Regards,
      vip-ip ...
  • Let's look at it my way:

    1) All rankings are a judgment between relevance (quality content) or irrelevance (spam).
    2) Certain sites are considered "relevant." (e.g., Wikipedia, news sites, Amazon, Facebook)
    3) We believe in the promotion of relevant sites.
    4) Sites that we perceive as 'spam' feel repulsive.
    5) The combination of pages containing a relevant key phrase make up SERPs.

    Would you look at that - it fits

    Regards,
    vip-ip ...
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    • Yep, get you! living a life of meaning until you hit the jackpot online, is possible, but limited!

      Usually the only real thing we can do, to enlighten the world is post here!


      Although the internet or YouTube has leveled the playing field or offered tantalizing proof that gov, are hiding stuff out there; and stuff on Earth as well, l will give you an example...

      I did a Thread of free energy, (you will have to look it up) and after a lot of discussion, etc, l found a video showing how a kid could build something out of Lego, if he wanted that would put out free power for lets say 50 years, (minus servicing).

      I tried this myself and got it to work!

      So, here we have something that virtually anyone could build, with magnets, that could drastically cut down on pollution, etc.

      And what have we seen, gov, churning out wind farms, and solar panels? Neither run 24/7, and are expensive to build, etc.


      No, this world puts money before health, saving the environment and ending world poverty!


      And as l have learned individuals that have tried to push this to electrical company's, are treated like dirt, and end up broke.


      No, make a wad online, develop this stuff and leak it onto YouTube, seems to be the only way to cut through gov, crap, and make the world a better place!

      Shane
  • Life is simple, as well as complicated. Sometime, I feel tired when I think about it carefully, most of the time, I would rather pretend to be a fool. But what we should know is that when a person says nothing and smiles, not symblize that he or she doesnot know.
  • Wild. I could only wish for THIS good a conversation on my WSO threads

    Regards,
    vip-ip ...
  • I sense an anomaly in the field. Here we are in the OT - and there is a thread about the secret of life. There are 30 posts in this thread and not one time has one person posted .................

    42.

    Now that's just not normal.
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    • We're more esoteric than sci-fi, I guess

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      vip-ip ...
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  • I've spent much of my day off here reading a book on Kundalini energy. I daresay, OP has provided something more interesting and more to the point.
  • I don't want religion to kill this thread! Anyone here seen Spirit Science?
    ?

    Regards,
    vip-ip ...
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    • Serious. So far it's been a pretty scholastic discussion. Can't guarantee it will stay that way. It's a damned good thread so I am hoping it will stay. WEpedia is knocking me out here - I have seen him in here forever or such, and I never knew he had the sharps about this stuff he does. I'm loving it. Usually someone would have killed the thread by now - either some jerk that can't get that something can be discussed on an objective level without their "it's all about me" subjectivity on the subject (which is what killed it in here in the first place) - or some Mod will look at it and say "uh oh" and kill the thread before the excrement hits the air conditioning when the subjectified jerk finally gets here.

      I loved philosophy in school. There was a pub not far from campus. A bunch of us would smoke a fattie and go sit at the pub and construct theories about the same categorical merit of your OP. Asti helped with that one, too.
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  • Yep, apparently it comes from intelligent machines below Mars surface directing drones to create these design,s; from direction from other beings!!! :rolleyes:

    Or it could just be a couple of scientist with boards??:confused:

    I like the alien one myself, makes a good premise for a movie!


    But in all seriousness, if they are 10,000 or more years ahead of us, then Harry Potter type science is more than possible, or way out there theory's.


    Shane
  • Great posts around here. I enjoyed reading
    Keep your ideas flowing guys
    I respect everyone's opinion, so I won't contribute anymore.

    By the way, Vip-ip I have watched "the secret" already. and would like to read the book. Great post you were able to catch the attention of many. kudos
  • Brain chemistry has a lot to do with feelings and perception.
  • My secret to life is consciousness, if you have enough of it, you can see things clearly, you can decide when you want to be happy, sad, angry, joyous, or whatever else you want. You determine how you feel about everything, you have that much control. It's liberating.
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    • Hmmm, but you also have the law of conservation, the law of increasing returns, etc!

      In other words, work hard for as long as it takes and one day, because of the law of karma you will be in the right place at the right time, and something very positive will happen.

      Other authors have called this, the cubic centimeter of chance, which only occurs to those who refuse to give in, no matter how hopeless the situation is!

      I have experienced this so many times, that l know that law of karma is real, and also know that if you give up, and quit you may miss it!

      There is more to this reality than meets the eye!

      Shane
    • Speaking of seeing things clearly and determining how you feel... This broadened my worldview SO much!

      Big Dub Festival 2012 Recap by SeppyDizil Productions - YouTube
      Random, but this is how we f**c around on the east coast, I guess. If you live here and you never knew... surprise

      Regards,
      Vas.
  • Probably the most succinct response here is that when anyone discovers the secret to life then that is their secret to life.

    Now that the succinct part is out the way

    Life is far, far too multi dimensional to even consider thinking/feeling you can determine an objective definition of the secret to life for others.

    That said, a subjective world/s view is a different story...or is that reality?

    Its interesting to discuss either way!
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    I figured out the secret of life

    ... and I wanted to share it with you guys, to see what you think! It came to me in the form of a theory. I call it my 'theory of existence,' at least for now. After all, it's only a day old. Anyway, here goes - keep in mind that I'd suggest setting aside 2-3 minutes to read it through and really digest it before commenting back. Trust me, it'll make for clearer thinking, as it may get complicated.