Holy crap, Texas schools use radio tag trackers on its students?

I can't remember if I addressed this in another thread here or just on facebook.

No. I am not alright with that. It absolutely infuriates me that anyone would be okay with this. Our government is treating us like livestock, and people are too drooling stupid to stop them. Who the hell is our gov to think they have a right to track our every move just because it's more convenient for them that way. I am not livestock. If I had a child and someone attempted to force them to carry RFID, I think I'd be implanting it somewhere that they didn't expect it to be implanted. If you act like slaves -- they will treat you as such. Anyone who acquiesces to this is either crazy as hell or they have absolutely no education in the history and evolution of fascist societies.

This crap needs to stop now. Serious.

A lot of Americans, since before the country was founded, expected THIS to happen.

It is used to track and control the students and punish them if they do anything unwanted. The next step is nearly ALWAYS to implant it. Talked about in movies and currently done with pets ******AND HUMANS, to some degree******!

And chips eventually only contain a number. That number, however, can refer to databases and be used to even determine what block you were on in a particular moment, and find a camera that took your picture.

ALSO, there are already several ways to use it to buy and sell.

garyv,

As I understand it, she was expected to ALWAYS have it on her, as IF it were implanted. This was NOT just for school!

In fact, WHAT good is this for school? I mean NOBODY cares if they are in school. They want them to be in CLASS, hopefully learning something proper. Are they going to use this to track down truants? Unlikely. Besides, why should all suffer for the infinitesimal possibility that it MIGHT help a couple people? Are they going to use it to get people in school to class? AGAIN, UNLIKELY.

They would have better luck putting these on the "teachers".

Steve

Lol, I would take my tag home & reprogram it, each day would have a new ID/Name. The school would be wondering WTH is going on.

apparently, at their base, they work as I thought. You might not be able to change the chips.

Steve

I'm finding myself on the fence on this one. I'm all for privacy rights and would no way want this to happen outside of school. However I also believe that a child that is in a public school should not have the same privacy rights as an adult.

That being said, I'd be willing to wager that there aren't very many abductions from school. Most happen when the kid is on the way to or from school. In which case a badge at school would do no good.

I guess in my opinion it should be left up to the parent. If a parent wants to keep track of their child, they should provide them with a gps cell phone that they can carry before and after school.

I don't see this happening anytime soon here in Colombia. (Fortunately). I don't agree with this even if security of our children is used as the excuse. I am a little impressed that some people here accept it. I never expected that.

The real problem, in my opinion, is not the privacy of our children (it's good for us parents and for teachers to keep track of their activities) but the fact that they are getting used to being tracked. People that grow thinking this is normal (and right) will accept any kind of abuse in the name of security.

I could use some tracking for my children but wouldn't accept schools (and goverments) to use it in them.

First thing - if we allow children tracked, exactly how long will it be before YOU get your own little chip?
Second - the idea that this is okay is the same as the idea that gov has ownership of you. That is NOT okay. Why do they need to know where you are all the time? Why are you okay with that? Schools do not OWN us. We pay for the education system. They are not our owners. It would be easy for them to discipline the kid if they know where it is (and at the point they wear chips, they are it, not he and she), it is also a statement that they are the owners of the property. An organization that works for YOU does not have ownership rights. If they lose track of students because they can't take roll instead of checking a device for info, they are not qualified to work for you. Fire them.

Columbine was not the result of not enough control over students. It was the result of schools thinking they own children - it was the school having the child drugged with dangerous psychotropic drugs that lead to the shootings. These drugs have been at the root of almost every school shooting, yet parents aren't at schools recalling officials and telling them to stop drugging their kids. Now it's chipping them - pure unadulterated ownership of another person. You're okay with thar, eh? Kewl because next it's chipping you.

If you want to be livestock, great - but don't take my freedoms down with you.
The school has absolutely not one reason to know where or what kids do when they are not at school. If they allow them to leave for lunch, they are not responsible for that kid until classes start again. You are actually giving permission for them to own your children when you say they need to know anything about that kid on off school time. That's what parents are for. School is supposed to be a learning institution - not a ruler, owner, babysitter. Teachers do have larger classes, but if a teacher is not intelligent enough to learn the faces and names of their students after a few weeks - they don't have the intelligence to teach them anything. Could you stand in front of a class of 40 kids every day for two weeks and not recognize who is in that classroom even if you didn't have the name? This is what calling role is for.

I'm worse sick of seeing our own citizens acquiesce to this kind of thing than I am of the government trying to implement it. If these things were only implemented on people who were okay with being owned like this, I wouldn't get so mad. Some of us, however, do care about our freedom and to have it implemented against us because YOU are okay with it? I am so not down with it. Let you live with the consequences of your own short-sightedness. Leave me alone.

Don't forget - they are not giving families a choice - they are "implementing" it. That is not something a free people have done to them. If there is no choice - it's not okay. Period.

Not sure if it was that fast, Steve - but they turn fast. Regime after regime have one thing in common, too - they took the people by surprise. The people thought the gov was their friend and they got pooned.

Now we have people spitting "conspiracy theory".

Well ya know what? The intellectual will always watch for conspiracies - because they understand what average drooling joe can't figure out. Gov doesn't just do a lot of random crap. It's an organized entity that forms visions and goals and strives for them like any other group or organization does. To think that the idea that a bunch of people who were good enough at making plans to achieve their own power and wealth get together with others and make plans to get more of it is "conspiracy theory" or "whacked" in some way is so naive that it can't even pass for a rational thought. Come on. jeesh. If they are making bills about something, they have an idea which way they want things to flow - they aren't just saying, "ah wow, lets legistlate this." Good grief. So how far can forced compliance go before a person should be expected to wake up and relize they've been had and that, yes, the rich and powerful do make plans that you don't "need" to know about?

Can't happen to us? LMAO. It already has.

Tina said: (And I'm not singling you out Tina,just addressing a comment you made).
"Several of you are dragging so much more into this and it's not happening. Why argue about what might happen when we should be figuring out how to deal with what has and is happening right now?

I'm not saying the program would even be effective, because I don't know. I just don't agree that it's a bad thing, the way it stands."

The answer to these questions are real simple.
No changes that happen happen quickly.They do it a step at a time so before you know it what might can happen,has.

I can guarantee you that the program, "The way it stands" will be totally unrecognizable in 3-5 years down the line iif allowed to go forward.

Two words to solve this problem. "Home Schooling"

For my first year of high school, I attended a school that required us to carry a school issued picture ID. If you forgot your ID you were not allowed in class and sent down to the "ID Room" where you would have to pay them $1.00 for a temporary Sticker ID. If you did not have $1.00 to spend you were automatically sent to "In School Suspension" for the day.

So guess what happened to me....yeah, no ID and didn't have $1.00 to give to the school. Guess where I ended up...in school suspension....I went home and told my parents what happened. They ended up pulling me out of high school and homeschooling me. They were so outraged that they would allow me to miss class for not having an ID and having no money to pay for one.

The schools are getting worse each and every year.

If only you had voted for Ron Paul...

You could have prevented this...

I understand the outrage demonstrated by most people, but isn't that
what America voted for 3 weeks ago?
Bigger Government, more handouts, tighter regulation etc... Or am i missing
the point?

This is not surprising at all. People don't want liberty, they want
security. Funny thing is your average person thinks they're the
same.

We're not that far from installing chips inside humans. It'll
probably start with children under the excuse of protection i.e.
"if your child is kidnapped, we can track him".

As usual people will swallow it without considering the dangers
of a system like that.

It is sickening people will actually support this. It is even more sickening how easily people fall for the "we just want kids to go to school" excuse as well.

I think I wouldn't like to use and wear that

That really WOULD be a good idea for the scool board members, etc... But I don't think they would vote for that.

So it seems that the school system might not be as Omnipotent as they think they are - looks like they made a mistake thinking people are inventory.

Setback for the Surveillance State in San Antonio Schools | The Beacon

When I started investigations in 1985 into a school system strip searching teens for cigarettes (can you imagine the principal eying your 16 yr old daughter up and down while she stood forcibly stripped naked in front of him?) the thing that struck me hardest was one of the Admin's statement "We have more power than the police." Not one of those *******s cared one whit what they did to those kids psychologically - they were getting rushes of the power they had.
They didn't have it very long.

Once they get that chipping try beat down they need to get rid of the thinking that put that idea forward in the first place.

What I'm waiting to see is the level of punishment of the kid who figures out how to forge or disable the RFIDs and sells the solution to classmates...

I'm betting they won't be rewarding his/her inventiveness or entrepreneurial spirit.