Mars Curiosity Stealth Mission

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Hmmmm, l was sniffing around for something else and found this gem!

I know it has a lot of ad's, (hopefully the WF version, won't?) but it also has some seriously cool images and info,.


This will most likely be what NASA will release to the world after December 21st 2012, or when the Mayan calender ends.


Images of an Earth like Pyramid on Mars, and a landscape of very advanced junk, or ruins, should hit the front pages of most papers, and media, ect.

I know that most of the images could be mineral deposits, or something else, but there are a handful of images that have to be artificial. The odds of them being natural are just too high, (the house ruins, being one).


Anyway well worth a look! I suspect that if this announcment occurs, then people that would rather keep their heads in the sand concerning this subject will be in for a massive shock!

As for myself, it won't be a shock, just confirmation of the truth that a very advanced civilization once existed on Mars, and we could probably jump-start our civilization a couple of hundred years in a short space of time, with this in our backy*rds!

Shane

  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Mars rover: No revelations in first soil test - CBS News

    Latest findings are that it has found carbon in the soil, and not surprisingly NASA scientists are saying it is anything else than proving that the building blocks of life are in the soil!!! :rolleyes:

    Not surprising, if the previous video is accurate, oh well, we will know in about 20 days time!!!


    Hmmm, decided to do a bit of digging, so to speak, and found these interesting things....

    I took one cropped shot of the original image, and a close up of some interesting stuff.





    Interesting thing about this one, is it seems to have a triangular window? And some sort of pipes sticking out of the sides? Maybe to get water from deep below the ground? Obviously not conclusive, but compelling. And if you take a closer look it seems that maybe someone with brown pants and blue shirts are walking around on both sides of the window? The one on the left is looking at the blue dome and the one on the right is looking directory at the rover. Hmmm, probably seeing it's glint in the sun, or thinking that l better not wave, or l might get thrown in prison?

    Let's hope NASA takes another shot of this at a higher res, should see some more details, and maybe catch someone waving?





    Notice anything! In the zoomed in image, it looks like the rover drove over a metallic button of some kind. I know it could be a polished rock or mineral rolled by the water in the past, but since it has a hole, dead centre, it is hard to dismiss as natural!





    Hmmmm, looks like a martain anchor? :rolleyes:


    So as you can see, from these and the other soil sample announcement, they seem to be avoiding proving that there is someone or something there!

    We should get the truth before Christmas!

    Shane
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      if you take a closer look it seems that maybe someone with brown pants and blue shirts are walking around on both sides of the window?
      Can't see this at all.

      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      looks like a martain anchor?
      I'm a notorious skepchick, but to me, it looks exactly like a natural undulation-shadow on the ground.

      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      We should get the truth before Christmas!
      So, I'm just wondering (and you know I ask good-humoredly, not argumentatively): if there's no conclusive proof of former life on Mars by Christmas, will you be saying "They just haven't found the evidence yet" or "Looks like there may not be, after all"? :p
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Can't see this at all.
        Hmmm, here you go!



        The first person, (on the left) is looking at the cone type structure, the second person seems to be talking to the third, who is holding one or both of his hands out.

        So it either means that leaked reports of there being up to 1 million human being sparsely spread out on Mars is true. Or it means this is something else, and the possibility of ancient, advanced long gone, life is likely!


        I'm a notorious skepchick, but to me, it looks exactly like a natural undulation-shadow on the ground.
        Yep, might be!!! :rolleyes:


        So, I'm just wondering (and you know I ask good-humoredly, not argumentatively): if there's no conclusive proof of former life on Mars by Christmas, will you be saying "They just haven't found the evidence yet" or "Looks like there may not be, after all"? :p
        Well, the video tends to show that some of the main players in what Curiosity does, and how long it takes to do it, indicates that after Dec, 21, will be the date the rover reaches the pyramid or obvious indications of ancient ruins.

        Obviously they have covered up stuff for the last 60 years, so there is no guarantees; but why would they land in an area with a pyramid in the distance and obvious signs of ancient ruins?

        It's a bit like landing a rover near Vegas, and trying to block or cover the city in the distance while it is driving towards it!

        Remember it is driving towards the interesting stuff, so if they drive towards something boring, and do d U turn, l will be disappointed!

        But l suspect that with the increase in UFO activity on Earth, etc, that if they change their minds, then someone or something else will make it up for them.

        A rover on mars taking close up pics, of ancient ruins, with very advanced materials, is less shocking than something landing in a park in the US and saying, hi!

        It should get interesting after the 21st!!!:p



        Here is another closer image of the martian cog. It has gaps, along the base or uniformly broken spokes. And it also has a rim since the shadow doesn't go all the way up!

        A uniform complex shape which is hollow and silver is so unlikely, that l tend to believe that this is a genuine, probably ancient martian artifact, that proves that there were an advanced race on Mars at some point in the distant past!

        If Curiosity was searching for any viable evidence it would have stopped over this, or gone back, and taken very close up shots of this, but as usual NASA dismisses, everything!

        This crap should end soon!

        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Hmmm, found some more!



          Then after correcting the color, and zooming in on something interesting!





          Is it just me, or does that look like something metallic sticking out of the windswept dune???



          The NASA version!



          And the true color version. Hmmm, there seems to be green algie on some of the rocks!!! The martian algie, under the top right hand side rock is the most obvious!!!

          The older Mars rovers also picked up on green algie, after color correcting!

          And for the record the Curiosity path isn't headed straight for the Pyramid, but will more or less go past it to the windswept part of Mars.

          The part with the exposed ruins!!!

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            So, let me see if I have this right ... the photos that NASA releases are all incorrect and inaccurate (or perhaps just some of them?), but after other people who just happen to believe in (former) life on Mars have "corrected" them, they've then somehow become the "true" versions? Am I the only one who thinks some of the language used describing that situation is perhaps a little biased?

            It's just "We can't see any evidence of life on Mars from these photos released by NASA, but if we "correct" them digitally, and produce "true" versions of them, then people will see that they might suggest that interpretation"?

            Hmmmmm, they did go back for a closer look, or took a higher res, photo.

            The first image is mine, or what looks like a silver cog.



            The second image is a better res, image of the cog!

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              So, let me see if I have this right ... the photos that NASA releases are all incorrect and inaccurate (or perhaps just some of them?), but after other people who just happen to believe in (former) life on Mars have "corrected" them, they've then somehow become the "true" versions? Am I the only one who thinks some of the language used describing that situation is perhaps a little biased?
              Yes, good point, but rather than dig up all available evidence as to if, and why they are purposefully putting a reddish gray filter over virtually all their images, l will just post a previous thread l did, in my defence...

              http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-red-blue.html

              PS, NASA did release an image of one of the mars rovers, on a hill with a blue sky, the only one since viking! But it seems that when they drive down to lower altitudes everything goes red?

              The images showing the Curiosity decent, in the other room, with the earth type blue sky, prove my point.

              And interestingly enough that video now has that part removed, but thankfully l took some shots of it before NASA officials edited that part out!

              Oh, well, at least 2013 will be BS free!

              Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author Sum1
    If I believe my house is haunted - guess what? I'll see ghosts.

    If I don't believe my house is haunted - guess what? I won't see ghosts.

    Scientists should not adjust the evidence to fit what they believe.

    They can only report on what the evidence is indicating.

    Bad science usually gets found out. Not a great way to secure future funding.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      If I believe my house is haunted - guess what? I'll see ghosts.

      If I don't believe my house is haunted - guess what? I won't see ghosts.

      Scientists should not adjust the evidence to fit what they believe.

      They can only report on what the evidence is indicating.

      Bad science usually gets found out. Not a great way to secure future funding.
      Hmmm, that's fair enough, but the real question is do ghosts exist?

      And if they do, then regardless of someones beliefs, if they spend the night in a haunted house with some cameras, they are sure to find something concrete, eventually.


      I agree that a lot of the so called evidence in the video is a bit open, but some is hard to dismiss!

      Oh, well we will know soon enough!



      Hmmmm, maybe l am getting a bit ahead of myself!!!! :rolleyes:



      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hmmmmm, this may be natural? But l have my doubts!!! :confused:




        And the Pyramid has an extrance!!!

        If this is an Egypt size pyramid, then it could be for large spacecraft, and go to some kind of hanger?

        Either way it is tough to dismiss as natural!



        If NASA does level with us, around Xmas time, then l will be glued to the TV, or website. Not everyday l get to look at a massive martain hanger full of spacecraft, etc.

        The whole world will be brown away with this announcement, but l suppose l shouldn't get my hopes up!!!!:rolleyes:

        It would make one hell'ava Christmas present!

        Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by Dhira View Post

            Too bad you couldn't post the lights emanating form the interior...
            What???? :confused:

            Please explain? :rolleyes:


            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Another abandoned dwelling, with the usual grilled air intake! :p



              The second one has me stocked!

              I found this thing that looks like a temple on a hill, but it is the weird dark line and white stuff behind it that has caught my interest!

              I know Sal, but it, (especially the bottom image) looks like a dam wall!!!! :p

              The bottom one is far enough away to be at the right scale, and if there are bridges and rivers, etc, then it is likely! :p

              But as before it doesn't conclusively prove that there is intelligent life there now, although that seems likely when all the available evidence is considered!





              Shane
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      Originally Posted by Sum1 View Post

      If I believe my house is haunted - guess what? I'll see ghosts.

      If I don't believe my house is haunted - guess what? I won't see ghosts.

      Scientists should not adjust the evidence to fit what they believe.

      They can only report on what the evidence is indicating.

      Bad science usually gets found out. Not a great way to secure future funding.
      Well said. I completely agree.
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        The frst of those three, I must admit (especially having "skepchicked" some of the previous ones), is a very surprising picture (you certainly wouldn't think it was a photo from the surface of Mars?!). I may not agree with you about the probable interpretation/outcome of these, but for the record I really do understand your interest in the subject!
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      that's true
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More weird buildings and a possible alien or aliens down the bottom!



        More weird stuff, including this building or house. Looks like a Mc-Mansion, (sorry about that, he, he).



        More weird buildings on the horizon, top one might be a restaurant?



        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Another one of these weird rocks, no discernible details this time, but it seems to be raised above the ground.



          Another Martian machine!



          More weird stuff, looks like a factory or house below. The one on the right looks like another view screen embedded in the rock or artificial silver rock. It could even be a transport device, or Stargate to certain parts of the planet?

          If they are 10,000 years ahead then who knows, but a tv screen is probably more likely?



          More water! Reflections are clearly visible in the top one, and the middle one may show another river curving around the mountains?




          Lower image shows some weird rocks and what looks like a sign, Martian sculpture perhaps? :confused:

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            More reflective rocks, with Curiosity left, more Curiosity or slats cut into the rock on right. And in the distance there is the blue hills and the occasional cloud!

            The thing below looks like someone carting a heavy rock around, but it is more likely a polished rim on the left, and who-knows on the right?



            Another one of these weird things?



            This is pretty cool, spotted these structures in the distance, have to be a good 3 to 5 km's away.

            Can't make out much, but the Mickey Mouse type sphere arrangement is clearly visible, (arrow). This thing could be 20 to 30 storeys high!

            Whatever it is! :rolleyes:



            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Hmmmm!



              This structure is supported by one tube, above the ground. Canopy for spacecraft?

              Then it is an obvious house further down, and this weird transparent structure? Greenhouse?

              And another reflective rock showing the usual blue sky and possible cloud!

              I will blow up the second one, obviously artificial, but there are more details!



              Last one shows another martian taking a breather, another water hole, and another tower!



              This tall structure is clearly in front of the building, and looks like a shell, with window's either side. No way this is natural.

              And clearly shows how advanced their materials are, being able to support 5 to 10 tons on two thin tubes.

              Beats me how they get up there???



              When we get full disclosure on all this, it will be like finding a brand new country like Egypt! :p


              Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                I am flying through whats, left since interesting stuff is a bit thin, so some of the most recent ones are thrown in with what l am up to!

                This isn't a reflection, could be more art?



                Could be another car? And the top image is showing a pipe above the surface, well further up it is also showing a sphere hovering or supported above the Martian surface. Another mining operation, perhaps?



                Next one is this weird thing supporting two reflective silver panels. Definitely not a rock whatever it is!



                Next one shows some more likely buildings up top, and this thing below, looks like a playpen?

                Whatever it is it has a pink frame around the edges, and some objects inside.

                Rabbit farm???? :rolleyes:



                Last one is the most striking, and ad's credibility to the methane or green algae covering a third of the planet.

                Top part shows the typical desolate, landscape. But after correcting the color, then something remarkable appears, look closely at the landscape, (bottom image).

                Notice anything???



                Yep, green here and there, it almost looks like green paddocks on Earth in some parts!

                Most likely from previous images this is algae or moss, which means that rain or rain clouds are also present. Even Martian moss will have issues with little rain, or look a burnt color, (evidence of that in previous images).


                Maybe we should start calling Mars, Earth 2?

                At least we have another planet to trash, unless there is life there now, then a planetary war might start up, although the odd's even with back engineered UFO stuff at our disposal would be stacked against us!


                Shane
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Whatever this is it doesn't look like a rock? And the elements around it arent rock like!



                  Top image is this, building that seriously looks like a landing platform. And the top structure is highly polished silver.

                  Bottom image is another good example of a Martian sky with wispy clouds!



                  Last image is this canal, with a silverish structure going over it, or another structure near it?




                  Shane
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    The last images seem to be getting a little thin, but there is still good stuff to be found.

                    NASA seems to be clamping down on their pictures and what they allow through, so l will fly through the latest ones, and look elsewhere!




                    Shane
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      This is a great detailed report on why NASA is covering up the blue sky issue, which also covers up green algae or lichen!

                      A great read, especially the 2004 official NASA press release, clearly showing the blue sky in the enlarged background image.

                      Mars - Now Has Life And A Blue Sky

                      Which was colored the usual reddish brown color we usually get, later on! :confused:


                      Shane :rolleyes:
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Could be another rodent, (like in the video, thread one, if l remember correctly). And a reflective rock next to it, with the familiar blue sky and Curiosity's mast, (left hand side).



                        If this rock is reflective then we are getting our first decent view of Martian clouds! And hills, etc.

                        Well l know that l have found others, but this is the first decent direct reflection of some.

                        Some of these clouds are in front of the mountain and casting a shadow! :p



                        Here you go Skepchick, another likely rabbit.:rolleyes:

                        Normally l would have dismissed this, but the ears got me hooked!




                        Shane
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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, nothing much today, just the usual structures! :rolleyes:

                          First one is this thing on a hilltop, could be a rock, but the odd's are against it?

                          And these silver, blobs on a rock. Maybe Sal can make some sense of them? :confused:



                          Last one is the coolest! :p

                          Considering how l have found rivers, (had some help with that one) and streams, etc on Mars, it is reasonable to assume if intelligent life is there and they have roads, then bridges should show up!

                          Here you go!!!!!

                          Hard to tell whether this river has water in it or not, but this seriously looks like a bridge made from white stone.

                          This could even be depicting a face, (bridge tunnel depicts the mouth) but it might just be their architectural design?

                          I won't even mention the thing above that on the left that looks like smoke!!!!



                          The smoke doesn't conclusively prove that they are there now, but it helps!


                          Shane
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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Ok, pushed the face detail on the bridge as much as possible, no further details emerged, but the uniform shape and details on both sides of the main arch, make this hard to dismiss as a rock!



                            Shane :p
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Spotted these things, odd,s on the thing on the right is a car?

                              And the thing on the far right is smoke.



                              Here you go Sal, another pipe! :p



                              Whatever this is, it is highly reflective silver, has bands going around it, and has some sort of dish assembly at the end?


                              Shane
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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                This is exciting, regardless of whether you look at the official image on the left or the color corrected one on the right, they both show blue skys!

                                Curiosity's reflection is lower left!



                                More proof that UFO's are real!

                                This is on Mars, so the usual explanations of swamp gas, or flock of birds don't apply to these.

                                I initially thought that it might just be the black pixel, that Curiosity has in the centre of its images, but the top image and the lower images, (true color ones) show these things have moved.

                                And the right hand image isn't there in the top one but is there on the bottom.

                                Considering the bottom image, is the next one Curiosity took, and it shows that these things are higher up in the sky, (right hand one may have taken off) clearly shows that these things have moved!



                                I also enhanced or further enlarged these things, which eventhough pixelated shows that some structure is there

                                This clearly cannot be dismissed as rocks. Rocks don't float or take off!

                                Probably the best evidence l have found to confirm that someone or something is there now! :p


                                Shane
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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  More proof that Mars has blue sky's and clouds.

                                  Doesn't matter whether you look at NASA's color or true, either way it clearly shows a blue color and clouds! :p

                                  It seems like NASA intentionally points Curiosity's cameras one way only so the blue sky is minimized!


                                  As the previous links show, (mainly in the other thread on Mars real sky color) a blue sky means oxygen molecules are in the atmosphere and clouds means rain or liquid water. As well as plenty of other stuff.


                                  NASA is either getting lazy or allowing more to get through their screening process. Normally an image like this would be very dark?

                                  Seems like the days of the ostridges burying their heads in the sand, and relying on popular media for their Mars information is over!



                                  Another likely road and bridge. Not as obvious as the first, but the car shape on the right helps. And the fact that the road goes on quite a distance, l only had enough room for this!



                                  Another road or freeway; the left hand side shows some of the hill cut off to make way, and the right shows a cement or wall built up to support a level base!



                                  An update with the UFO's, was l saw them in further images, but not in some. Or they didn't move from their initial positions. So it isn't dust on the lens or a computer glitch.


                                  Shane
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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    Another water outlet pipe.

                                    The interesting thing about this is instead of being a circular pipe it is a raised half pipe shape.

                                    I have found strong signs of water in this area, and l will post them soon! :p




                                    Shane
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                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                      More signs of water flows.

                                      This is flowing down a gulley, you can just see a dip or small waterfall underneath the bridge type structure.

                                      The thing on the right, is probably a building of some kind, but l can't be 100% certain?



                                      Bottom image shows another likely creek. There are some more raised structures on the right, but hard to make out what they are?


                                      Shane
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                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                        Ok, finally turned all this or the highlights into a video!

                                        Any luck it will go viral, but we will have to wait and see.


                                        MARS - THE TRUTH - YouTube


                                        Sorry for some reason none of my videos are embedding on the WF???

                                        The world deserves to know the truth! :p


                                        Shane


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                                        • Profile picture of the author Riptor
                                          Just came across this image and sure you will enjoy it Shane.
                                          It looks like some sort of stone building.

                                          Not sure how to embed an image but here is the URL:


                                          http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/galle...AP2443R1M1.JPG
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                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                            Thanks for that one, Riptor.

                                            Yep, it could be a structure of some kind, but unfortunately hard to confirm. Sniff!



                                            Shane
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                                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                              Ok, these are raw images from 373 to 383.

                                              Well apart form this one, which belongs to the previous images!

                                              More weird stuff!



                                              Next one shows this thing, which could be moving? It seems to be throwing dust off behind it?

                                              Next one is this device that seems to be throwing off steam? The next one down, shows it on a side view.



                                              Then we have the usual road and cars! Or things that look like cars going alone a flat stretch of ground throwing up dust behind them. Cars and roads! :p



                                              Shane
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                                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                Ok, another likely rabbit for Skeptchick! This one seems to have a gray spotted body! :p



                                                Lower image seriously looks like a skull, but considering this is at the same distance as the rabbit, it unfortunately isn't a large animal. Obviously cannot be sure, as faces can be misleading, but possible!



                                                Second image show this weird thing!

                                                Whatever it is it is raised above the surface, (front edge thing sticking out) and eventhough it looks white, l believe that it is very reflective, and is just reflecting the landscape.



                                                Third one is this thing on the side of the hill, that seriously looks like some kind of habitat, (windows at the end).

                                                And the end structure looks like polished metal! :p


                                                Shane
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                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                  Found this fascinating video on getting to Mars using atomic explosions!

                                                  And being able to take off from Earth and land a giant spacecraft on Mars!

                                                  Only watched a small part, but will watch the rest when l have time!


                                                  Shane
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                    More UFO's!

                                                    Probably the same ones l found before, but this time l have caught them on the ground, as well as the air!



                                                    These images were taken by Curiosity a few frames apart, or they are in the same area.

                                                    It seems more and more likely that Mars in inhabited!

                                                    Probably by a race or races that are a good 1000 or more years ahead of us!


                                                    Pity someone couldn't try to launch a cheap probe to Mars. We might get lucky and it would land on a house, or bif an alien! He, he!

                                                    Shane


                                                    PS if anyone can explain how rocks can float in mid air, we are all ears! :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    These pics are terrible. I can't tell much in them at all. I've seen much better pics from NASA that show things that are just too bizarre to pass off as natural phenomenon. These pics, not so much. They aren't focused enough.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yep, best l could do!

      And l know from the cog example, l need to be careful! But some of it is compelling!

      I know that there are good examples of Egyptian type artifacts on mars, and life, etc, but eventhough l want to keep this thread on Curiosity, l would be open to other martian artifacts, and life, examples.

      Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Life was found on Mars a while ago* Have you been living under a rock?

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hmmmm, chickens and weird rabbit type creatures, with orange paws???? :rolleyes:


      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hmmm, l was fascinated with the last video and decided to do some more digging!

        I enhanced the video images, and managed to find an extra image he missed, of our weird martian rabbit!



        Pretty hard to dismiss this as a rock! An ancient fossil, that is being blown across the martian landscape is the most plausible alternative!

        Either way it proves that there is life!

        But as you will see, the martian rabbit theory holds more ground...



        I doubt that a fossil, has colors all over it and seems to be sunning itself? As you will see in the last image, it could also be playing dead. Because of the mars rover slowly moving about?



        Same area, same rover, no rabbit??? And the image below, was taken from the same image above, which shows the rabbit has moved!



        He missed this one, it looks like the same rabbit, but with its ears down. Most likely its white coloration, is so it can hide from predators during the day. Which raises the exciting possibility that there are more animals on Mars!

        And the orange color is on the bottom of the creature, which is hidden in this photo!


        So when you add up all the available evidence, this is a seriously tough one to dismiss as a rock!

        Either way it proves that life exists on Mars!

        I just hope that we do get full disclosure, around Xmas day!

        From what l have heard, the US congress has had an emergency meeting, so when the martian ruins are shown to the world, and the US phone lines and online gov, dep, crash, with the millions of people wanting to see what they have been hiding all this time, others will be there to handle the load!

        Seems more and more likely that Mars is just another Earth like planet with a weaker gravity and less water!

        And is more like the Australian outback, but with very advanced junk the occasional pyramid and other animals! And possibly a million or so humans etc...

        Exciting times!!!! :p

        Shane

        PS all these closeup's were taken from the original images found below the YouTube video channel, (or click on "show more", and the image links will show).
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Hmmm, more digging....



          It seems that the rabbit may have a family!

          The rabbit image was on the right, but on the left are two similarly colored splotches that also disappear in other images or as you will see move positions?

          And before l get the ineviatable, white rock, l have magnified other white rocks and they don't have the color and shadows these have!



          The original image has the rabbit sunning itself on the right, and this spotch, that looks like something white with ears?

          And this isn't there in later images!


          Image A show a rock, and image B shows the rabbit probably trying to hide behind it, (l checked the positions) possibly with some baby rabbits against it. It would explain why the splotches have vanished from this image, and why the rabbit looks scared, (ears down). Apparently the rover moved and scared it!



          Ok, moving on, l did a bit of digging into older Mars Pathfinder missions, and found some other equally cool stuff!



          Apart from the obvious green algae, there is this in the distance....



          I have a tough time believing that this is natural!!!


          But at the very least we know Mars has green algae, growing on its surface, and ancient structures!

          And the occasional rabbit!!!:rolleyes:

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            But wait there's more....



            More building's, looks like an outpost!!!

            We should get the truth, soon enough!!!

            Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by AlbertDax View Post

                It's usually easy to get a payday loan to help you get in a financial crisis. With just a few simple requirements, you can get the cash you need quickly, and there are usually no credit checks, as well. However, if you have been denied for a payday loan but could really use the money, there are ways to re-apply to be approved for a loan.
                Albert my dear fellow,

                This is Shane's thread and all the people reading this are on Mars.

                As Mars is a cashless society and trades nearly entirely on Shane's mass bred fluffy bunnies, I'd suggest this thread was a total waste of your time and energy.
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Albert my dear fellow,

                  This is Shane's thread and all the people reading this are on Mars.

                  As Mars is a cashless society and trades nearly entirely on Shane's mass bred fluffy bunnies, I'd suggest this thread was a total waste of your time and energy.
                  Thanks Richard, l am sure that if l come across a UFO, the first thing they will say is, "are you nuts"?

                  Or they might say, "you got change"?

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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Phew, finally found something worth posting!

                    I found some more possible entrances, but that is not the area of interest!

                    This structure rising a few storys into the air is the area of interest!

                    The left side of this thing, is definitely in front of the background rock, meaning that it is not a landscape illusion.

                    There appears to be a face in the top part with details around it; best guess this is a sign depicting a martian doing something?

                    Another restaurant perhaps?

                    Either way this isn't a rock!!!!

                    Unless there are intricate 3 or 4 story high piles of boulders stacked on top of each other to form a circle!

                    Virtually impossible with Martain sandstorms!




                    I would say another tick for Martian habitation!
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Ok, UFO in the sky, (the other black dot is Curiosity's mark showing the middle of the image)!

                      And most likely some more artificial stuff directing the water flow in a particular direction, (you can see a pool of water up top).



                      Next image seems to show some old ruins?

                      And this highly polished silver structure on your left!

                      Hard to tell if this is a mineral, but since this is near ruins, and appears separate from the rock, l will go with more Martian junk!



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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Hanger entrance or tinted window? Either way it doesn't look rocklike!






                        More junk, first we have what looks like buildings in the distance on the right, then more obvious junk or buildings on the left!

                        Even if this is reflecting the rover, the three cylinder shapes above it still make it a likely candidate for Martian object!




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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, l am finally starting to find some interesting stuff.

                          First one shows what looks like a dam, but eventhough it might have runoff, impossible to be sure.

                          Although the last image showing very obvious water helps!





                          Next one either a generator or just the rovers reflection?



                          The next one is likely to be another Martian dwelling. The half moon shaped tinted windows curve around the roof, with no background reflection present, indicating that it isn't Curiosity's reflection.

                          And it appears to be on stilts, with a metallic, creamy colored cylinder on the right, (probably for power generation)?

                          There also could be stairs up front going to the entrance.

                          Curiosity only reflects back it high cameras lenses, (black rectangles) and this series of shapes has three.

                          Not every day we see a house that is thousands of years ahead of us, tech, wise! Might have some aerials on the left as well?

                          Lets hope that the third party rover lands near this in a few years time. Finally blow the lid on this!



                          The last images show more obvious signs of water flow. Or more proof that the atmosphere and surface temp, NASA gives is bent!

                          I know that it might be fluorocarbons or acidic water, but l sure looks like plain old water to me!

                          This image is tricky to see it, but the reflections can be seen! And plant life and animals, who knows?



                          Ok, the last image is the jackpot one! Maybe a car throwing up some dust, another habitat and this....

                          Yep, a water catchment. The reflection from the bent pipe coming out of the ground and structure next to it are clearly visible.

                          Most likely runoff from an underground natural spring.



                          If this was taken from Earths deserts, we would naturally say, a natural spring weir, but on Mars it takes a little more convincing!

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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            More water images, NASA must be slipping up, these are the clearest ones l have seen since this thread started!

                            The top one is showing clear water flowing over some boulders!



                            More pools of water and what seems like more Martain junk!



                            Next one shows some more water flowing down this stream and even some rapids here and there!

                            This water could be acidic, but that tends to look cloudy; so l will still go with fresh water!



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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Found some supportive videos, most of the time they are crap, but not these or this one!


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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                More water!

                                Hard to differentiate it from darker sand dunes, etc, but the reflections give it away.

                                This is like salty of fresh water at a beach, except that there are no seas, well odd's on!



                                Second one is more interesting, since there looks like a lizard sunning itself, but unfortunately l believe that it is an illusion.

                                But the clear water flowing down the hill is real enough!



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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  Another rare glimpse into Martian Clouds! They can be seen behind the white robotic arm! I am not saying that they are rain clouds, but it is possible.

                                  Especially considering that latest reports show that there is enough water at the polar regions to cover the whole planet with 200 metres of fresh water!



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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    More weird stuff!

                                    This looks like a reflective sheet, and seems to be a very reflective mirror?

                                    Maybe it is there to amuse what seems to be a baby cub of some kind on the left!

                                    This could be an optical illusion, but l can't be sure!




                                    Next one is another curved rock, and a partially buried generator?

                                    Unfortunately l have seen quite a few rocks like this, so it probably isn't an artifact!



                                    Last one certainly isn't Curiosity's reflection, to weird for that.

                                    Looks like a machine of some kind!



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                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                      Ok, first image is either clear water or some kind of rock face? The last image is one of the clearest river streams l have found...



                                      More martian junk, l doubt that there are many rocks around with a perfect circle and rim?



                                      This thing, l am trying to convince myself that this is Curiosity's reflection, but it doesn't make sense. More martian junk l guess?



                                      Ok, my favourite one, the water must be flowing pretty fast considering the splashes on the edges? And this water is relatively clear or clean, (most rivers around this area, is dirty or the color matches the rocks!



                                      Pretty obvious that fresh water is flowing on Mars as we speak!

                                      Which means NASA has a lot to answer for!

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                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                        Ok, from the looks of the junk around this, l would say that this is a man or martian made watering hole!

                                        I would love to think that the thing bending over is a man washing his dark clothing, but it probably isn't, sniff!
                                        But the next image or find is my favorite!



                                        First we have this industrial complex on the hill. Well, it might be?

                                        Then this obvious artificial object!



                                        Whatever this thing is, it is polished silver, and hollow, and seems to be throwing up a wirlwhind of dust!

                                        High powered air extractor, perhaps? Whatever this is, it isn't a rock; the odd's are against it!

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          • Profile picture of the author Adam Hill
            The green algae could be oxidized copper like pennies get. They already proved that water was atone point abundant there with rivers and such so it could be the minerals that had a chemical reaction. That being said, I really want there to be life on mars and hopefully one day we can terraform it and enable it to sustain carbon based lifeforms. Another theory I have (although nothing to back it up) is who says that carbon based life forms are the only life forms in the universe? The universe is an incomprehensibly huge place and so for someone to say there isn't intelligent life somewhere out there is pompous and asinine in my opinion. Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by Adam Hill View Post

              . Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
              Machines don't do it, eh?

              There is still water on Mars....it's just seasonal in at least many areas.
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

                Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.
                Hmmm, l have also seem the blue colour on man or alien made objects. So some could be natural, and l believe that others are windows. :p

                No, not really, it seems likely that humans or a version of humans are on Mars, as we speak, as well as aliens!

                Looks like Total Recall was onto something.
                Hmmm, total Recall, is based on inaccurate information about Mars, but l have that one on tape, so l'd better not trash it too much, still a great movie! Just needed a blue sky and the occasional plant and animal life, water, etc to be accurate! :p

                The green algae could be oxidized copper like pennies get. They already proved that water was atone point abundant there with rivers and such so it could be the minerals that had a chemical reaction. That being said, I really want there to be life on mars and hopefully one day we can terraform it and enable it to sustain carbon based lifeforms. Another theory I have (although nothing to back it up) is who says that carbon based life forms are the only life forms in the universe? The universe is an incomprehensibly huge place and so for someone to say there isn't intelligent life somewhere out there is pompous and asinine in my opinion. Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
                Yes, that's true, but remember that a lot of methane has been detected, and since no volcanic activity has been found, plant and/or animals, are a necessity!

                Machines don't do it, eh?

                There is still water on Mars....it's just seasonal in at least many areas.
                To me, water, plant life and blue sky's on Mars, are a slam dunk!

                Advanced civilizations, animals and aliens, seems likely, but like most l am still getting my head around it all!

                Shane
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom


                  Hmmm, alien hard at work! I noticed these weird patterns elsewhere, then came across this; initially l thought that it was a trick of background and foreground rocks, etc, but the exposed first large image shows that this is a structure by itself, and the helmet of the alien has antennae up top!

                  Hard to say whether it has wheels or something else? He or she or it, could be digging up the ground for oxygen, rare elements or something else, but since, he is looking directly at Curiosity it is obvious they know about it, and are keeping clear!

                  Which means they and us, (NASA, gov,) most likely have an agreement!

                  Keep everyone in the dark!


                  Funny thing is very recently NASA said that after drilling into a rock they have conclusively proved that Mars could have had life in it's past!!! WTF!!!!

                  Better end this, l feel a rant coming on!!!:rolleyes:

                  Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          I enhanced the video images, and managed to find an extra image he missed, of our weird martian rabbit!

          Pretty hard to dismiss this as a rock! An ancient fossil, that is being blown across the martian landscape is the most plausible alternative!

          Either way it proves that there is life!

          But as you will see, the martian rabbit theory holds more ground...
          Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

          "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
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            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

            "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
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            It's a martian rabbit. BIG difference....duh.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

              "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
              - Humphrey Carpenter
              Hmmm, well as l have shown, with the Mars sky issue, don't believe everything NASA tells you, some of it is clearly BS!


              Ok, maybe l am jumping the gun a little bit, but when l see something or somethings that look like a common life form on Earth, and moves around, then it looks likely that it is alive!

              Obviously it isn't concrete proof, but it is likely!


              The Martian Earth like sky, and green algae on the rocks is in my opinion concrete proof, that there is life on Mars!


              A noted scientist also showed that Mars produces a lot of Methane during the summer months! The only things that could do that are green algae, moss, etc or volcanic activity!

              Viking spacecraft biological experiments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              No volcanic activity has been found, but plenty of green stuff, as l have shown has been!

              The green algae also shows the pressure probably isn't at boiling water type pressures, at the surface but more water liquid levels!


              And as l suspected green algae also produces a lot of oxygen, so, 98 carbon dioxide, and .13% oxygen, is probably the other way around!

              We only need 20% to breathe, so it's odds on there is more than enough for life forms!

              Remember at least 1/3 or Mars has this green stuff growing on its surface, so there is a good chance the oxygen levels are much higher!

              Which opens up the likelihood of other life forms!

              Algae for Oxygen


              And since that is likely Mars carbon dioxide levels are probably much lower as well

              NASA needs to level with us sooner rather than later, as an independent investor is planning to launch a rover at Mars in the next couple of years, and will spill the beans, about what Mars is really like.

              So, boxing day or after, we should finally get the truth!

              Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    I must admire your unabashed tenacity.
    That being said.... Dude, seriously? (spoiler alert)
    If youre keeping this going for comedys sake,bravo.
    Your Rabbit is more than likely trash from the rover.
    The "algae" shadows or discolored soil.
    Unless the Decepticons have a secret base there, What possible benefit would NASA have keeping to themselves the Holy Grail of exploration, otherwise known as life on other planets? Puh-lease!

    Still one of my favorite Aussies regardless,Shane

    Merry Christmas, Bro!
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I must admire your unabashed tenacity.
      That being said.... Dude, seriously? (spoiler alert)
      If youre keeping this going for comedys sake,bravo.
      Your Rabbit is more than likely trash from the rover.
      The "algae" shadows or discolored soil.
      Unless the Decepticons have a secret base there, What possible benefit would NASA have keeping to themselves the Holy Grail of exploration, otherwise known as life on other planets? Puh-lease!

      Still one of my favorite Aussies regardless,Shane

      Merry Christmas, Bro!
      Yep, it could be trash from the rover being blown about, the crater is probably creating a whirlwind of sorts. But 3 pictures of junk that looks like a rabbit, hmmmm, better odds it is a rabbit!

      I know it sounds like a joke, but saying that this hamster type pic, (other source) is silly as well, but it looks seriously like one!!! :rolleyes:



      As for the discolored soil, (don't understand the shadow part?) well methane has been detected, and it doesn't come from volcanoes! And there are plenty more images of green algae on rocks, etc around the planet!

      Where's Mars' Methane? Curiosity Draws a Blank : Discovery News

      First results from viking showed organic material in the soil, then it was dismissed, by NASA saying, it was contaminants from Earth! Then Curiosity does a similar experiment, same positive result, same, excuse!

      I doubt they would spend 2.5 billion and make a dumb mistake twice, especially if it is this important!


      So, l am still convinced in the algae idea!


      As for why, that is a big issue, all l can say is keep your eye on your tv, papers over the next week! There should be a big announcement concerning this subject!


      But if this info, is unsettling to you, then it is best just to ignore this thread.

      I won't hold back on this thread, if l find something, it will be popped on here.


      But Merry Xmas to you as well.

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Here is a Christmas message from all of our Martian friends:

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Here is a Christmas message from all of our Martian friends:
          Thank's, Myob, that was seriously terrible!

          Shane :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            The Martian Sky - YouTube

            Hmmm, just as l thought, regardless of what Mars sky colour is, since it has a sky colour is a good indication that Mars air pressure at ground level is comparable to levels that can allow liquid water!

            Seems more and more likely Mars is an M class planet!

            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Curiosity Team May Reveal Major Discovery Soon | Science | RIA Novosti

              Hmmmmm, one step closer to the truth!!!! :rolleyes:

              At last!!!!

              Shane :p

              Another recent photo, more weird stuff!:rolleyes:



              Doesn't seem to be anything particularity interesting here, but look closer!



              A - The rock on the right is very polished or mirror-like! Could still be a trick of light or something else?

              B - Get to this one, last...

              C - Looks like another rover with a camera sticking up, maybe the martains are studying us? Or just another trick of light? :rolleyes:

              B - on the left of, What the H*** is that??? :confused: Looks like a machine of some kind!



              Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.

              I won't even mention the weird rock shapes on the right of this!

              Should get the big announcement soon that there are microbes in the dirt, and that should eventually lead to the seriously big announcement that Mars is a giant martian junk yard!

              Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Hmmmmm, good to hear two NASA officials, saying liquid water is on Mars surface!!!

                And that the likelihood of life on Mars is 95%.

                Only a matter of time!!!


                Shane :p

                But l also find it ironic that they say they can't find out where the Methane is coming from, and they are driving past the green stuff that is producing it!!!

                Still plenty of BS, but at least some of the truth is emerging!
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Hmmmm, found another video of the Curiosity landing, this one has some footage l didn't see in the original one. Unfortunately the quality isn't HD, but it still shows some interesting things!!!


                  And l look the liberty of increasing the mag, of the video in the other room. The video shows this about 22.20 minutes in, or almost at the end!

                  This video shows something artificial? I originally thought it was showing something on the top of the mountain in the crater, Curiosity was aiming for.

                  But, because of the lack of interest of some of the members in the other room, and relative position above the ground and the fact that it seems to be closing, or the martian winds are blowing it around, it is more likely it is part of the Curiosity assembly! Or where ever the HD camera was stationed!



                  Most likely the HD camera popped up after reentry, and beamed back the real life video to the satellites above!

                  Shane
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                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


                I won't even mention the weird rock shapes on the right of this!
                True to the law of infinity you could quite literally have rocks the shape of any object known to man and beyond...
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  True to the law of infinity you could quite literally have rocks the shape of any object known to man and beyond...
                  Damm, just found this one!!!! :rolleyes:



                  Shane
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                  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                    Not only could you have the possibility of a rock in the shape of a can of Coke on Mars, you could also have an actual can of Coke complete with contents.

                    You could also have a washing machine and a trombone. All present at the same time on Mars together with that can of Coke.

                    In the infinite universe everything that can possibly happen will happen at some point without question.
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Latest pics, more weird stuff....



                      Nothing much, but when l zoom in....



                      Hopefully this is just a rock, or a statue of some kind?



                      Hmmmm, just a rock, or an animal of some kind? Normaly l would say a rock, but there is more evidence to support this being something out of the ordinary!



                      Similar design to the one above, whatever it is?



                      The contrast of colours make this a hard one to dismiss as being a rock. Looks more like a part off a larger machine.



                      More green algae, sigh, l wish NASA would get a move on with the big microbes in the soil announcement. l am getting inpatient!!!

                      Shane
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Latest photo, more interesting stuff! :rolleyes:



                        Had to crop this photo, too big, but l circled something interesting.



                        looks like a sculpture or a face, (l know a face is a face, etc,) but the left hand side stripes, similar to an Egyptian face make it more compelling!

                        From what l have heard Curiosity is digging a hole, NASA seems to be stalling with the life announcement???

                        So, what else is new, oh, well, they may see a UFO in their back yard if they keep stalling!

                        Shane
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                            Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

                            Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Thanks Thomas, seriously weird.

                              Martian bird bath sculpture perhaps?

                              Tough to dismiss as natural, but it's still possible? :confused:




                              Shane :p
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                              • Profile picture of the author Thomas
                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                Thanks Thomas, seriously weird.

                                Martian bird bath sculpture perhaps?

                                Tough to dismiss as natural, but it's still possible? :confused:
                                Could be a piece of the rover itself, or part of the skycrane that put it there, though you'd imagine that would be some distance away by now. After all, the stated destination of the rover is the mountain in the middle of the crater, and it has (presumably) been trundling it's way there since it landed nearly 6 months ago.

                                Personally, I think some Martian driver lost a piece of his gear box when driving by.
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                                • Profile picture of the author myob
                                  The bird bath may have actually been built by avid Martian bird watchers from back in the day.
                                  Martian Birds

                                  "It's time for the mainstream scientific community to take these geoglyphs, like the Parrot on Mars, more seriously." George J. Haas, Society for Planetary SETI Research
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                                  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
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                                    • Profile picture of the author USA
                                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                                      That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?

                                      I believe it was called the "Boston" update, but I may be wrong.


                                      Boston -- February 2003

                                      Announced at SES Boston, this was the first named Google update. Originally, Google aimed at a major monthly update, so the first few updates were a combination of algorithm changes and major index refreshes (the so-called "Google Dance"). As updates became more frequent, the monthly idea quickly died.
                                      Quoted from >>>http://moz.com/google-algorithm-change#2003<<<

                                      I only looked it up because a friend told me about it the other day.
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                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                        Hmmmmmm...... :rolleyes:



                                        And more weird stuff if that wasn't enough!



                                        The cylindrical green building is the best since it is a tough one to dismiss as natural!


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                                          More reflective rocks, and equally more weird stuff!



                                          First one, shows Curiosity on the left, the typical blue sky, and orangy white clouds; there are also some seriously weird things in the distance, (middle of horizon). They also seem to have something sticking out above them, structure or trees????

                                          There is also a coffee colored structure on the left of this, but l can't figure out whether this is on the rock or freestanding. If it is freestanding, it is huge, and Curiosity is driving right past it! Grrrrrr.



                                          The next image is a bit blurry, but it also shows a structure on the left. But as you will see from the next image, l have put this in to confirm that this rock and the next are reflecting something!



                                          Last image shows this structure again, with Curiosity's reflection on the right, but it is what is in between that has me exited.

                                          There are these three structures, and the one on the right seems to be putting out steam into the atmosphere.

                                          Or the steam is in front of the mountain, as well as the sky!

                                          Looks like a factory on Earth!

                                          The structure on the left, either is on fire, has smoke pouring out of it, or just has rain clouds in the background? Either way it is an exciting find!


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                                            Found this weird thing, doesn't look like a rock to me!



                                            And this weird reflective square shaped thing, maybe they are intentionally trying to show us, what is really there?

                                            Another weird artificial structure on the left!



                                            Next is another one, but this is reflecting something bizarre. Whatever this greenish thing is, it is in front of the background mountains and sky.

                                            I initially thought it was clouds, but now, l haven't the foggiest?



                                            Next image shows another house, bottom image shows a house with another wooden door.

                                            And the exciting one in the middle possibly showing soil that has been cleared away or leveled.




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                                              Not much to report today!

                                              A martian dwelling in the distance, and this weird thing....



                                              Granted that part of this structure could be background rocks, but the shadow shows some of this is freestanding, and by the look of the details, probably not natural!

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                              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                              Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
                              I wouldn't know, Sal - and Ireland isn't exactly known for its deserts, so the only place I ever see sand is the beach... and that ain't no beach.
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                              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                              Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
                              More like Central Wyoming...which BTW is where Starship Troopers was filmed:

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                                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                More like Central Wyoming...which BTW is where Starship Troopers was filmed:

                                Starship Troopers,Battle at Whiskey Outpost - YouTube
                                Another interesting fact from Kurt o'pedia. I didn't know that one but now had to watch the video just to see it. LOL.

                                It could pass for parts of NV, too.

                                Edit -- holy crap - where in Cent WY is that? South central? That looks like a damned good place to go hunt some rock. I want to go!
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                                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                                  Another interesting fact from Kurt o'pedia. I didn't know that one but now had to watch the video just to see it. LOL.

                                  It could pass for parts of NV, too.

                                  Edit -- holy crap - where in Cent WY is that? South central? That looks like a damned good place to go hunt some rock. I want to go!
                                  The movie was filmed between Shoshoni and Casper on Highway 20, closer to Shoshoni, but the whole stretch looks just like that.

                                  I think it's about 90 miles, if I remember correctly, and there's no services between Shoshoni and Casper, so fill up the tank. Rocks are about the only thing you'll find there...except for some redneck relatives of mine.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
                                    A fox ate it!!! :rolleyes:

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                                    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                    The movie was filmed between Shoshoni and Casper on Highway 20, closer to Shoshoni, but the whole stretch looks just like that.

                                    I think it's about 90 miles, if I remember correctly, and there's no services between Shoshoni and Casper, so fill up the tank. Rocks are about the only thing you'll find there...except for some redneck relatives of mine.
                                    Okay - I hunted south of Shoshoni. That's why it looks familiar. Still could be parts of NV, too.

                                    Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.
                                    There's nothing even remotely natural looking about that thing. Some of even the shiny stuff just looks like big metal crystals to me. Out in the field I've seen all sorts of metals and they can get pretty wildly shaped and there's a lot of rock that will shine - but nothing natural ever even remotely even started to look like that thing.

                                    Some of those other pics look like they are definitely life forms. But what would they eat or drink? It would be one bizarre organism structure. Of course, I would think we'd expect that to be the case. Also - if there's still liquid water under the surface, they might just burrow. Burrowing life forms might explain some other features in these pics.
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                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                          Latest photo, more interesting stuff! :rolleyes:







                          looks like a sculpture or a face, (l know a face is a face, etc,) but the left hand side stripes, similar to an Egyptian face make it more compelling!

                          From what l have heard Curiosity is digging a hole, NASA seems to be stalling with the life announcement???

                          So, what else is new, oh, well, they may see a UFO in their back yard if they keep stalling!

                          Shane
                          Shane - that looks very natural. In fact it looks volcanic. What catches my attention is the little guy sitting at it's bottom right that looks like a little bat with its wings folded. Now that looks live to me.
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                            Quote:
                            Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.
                            There's nothing even remotely natural looking about that thing. Some of even the shiny stuff just looks like big metal crystals to me. Out in the field I've seen all sorts of metals and they can get pretty wildly shaped and there's a lot of rock that will shine - but nothing natural ever even remotely even started to look like that thing.


                            Yep, l agree, it is pushing the natural part! I enhanced it as far as possible, (bubble image) and there is clearly structure there, and it also has legs supporting this thing, as is shown by the shadow on the left hand structure. The material covering it looks like wood, or a very strong thin fabric.

                            And the left hand opening is circular as well, hmmmm, l wish NASA would pull their finger out, and go check some of this stuff out!

                            But what is even more remarkable is the structure on the right! It looks remarkably like an entrance of some kind, or a transport pad?

                            Shane - that looks very natural. In fact it looks volcanic. What catches my attention is the little guy sitting at it's bottom right that looks like a little bat with its wings folded. Now that looks live to me.


                            Hmmmmm, could be? :confused:

                            NASA scientists have said that there is water on the surface, they are 95% sure that microbes are in the soil, what is the holdup???

                            They are also ignoring the green algae, occasional possible life forms, and the fact that they got the air pressure wrong, (see above). As well as possible structures.

                            It seems that they are on the verge, but are probably scared of widespread ligation, or court action, that might cause a major restructure of NASA, (weed out the rotten apples finally) since Viking did similar tests, with positive results, then was covered up or denied.


                            So, my guess is they will drill a deep hole or something like that and say they found it that way, or it was too deep for Viking, etc missions to pick it up, blah, blah!

                            Fair enough, they have dug themselves into such a deep hole they need to cover themselves legally!

                            As long as they and the media finally announce something!!!

                            Shane :rolleyes:
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                                Now, this is proof of life. Hood ornaments on Mars. Could be an old Mustang, but I'm not sure ...

                                NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Weird 'Hood Ornament' on Mars - Yahoo! News
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                                  Now, this is proof of life. Hood ornaments on Mars. Could be an old Mustang, but I'm not sure ...

                                  NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Weird 'Hood Ornament' on Mars - Yahoo! News
                                  Yep, thanks Jeff, details of that one are on the first thread, hood ornament or bird bath, doesn't seem like a slam dunk!

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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
                                    Well, after stumbling across this one, Mars may have cats or foxes! Explains why l couldn't find any more rabbits?

                                    This is the best l could do, from the HD video below, and not surprisingly NASA has held back on releasing the original images. :rolleyes:





                                    These two images were taken from slightly different angles, and clearly show ears, eyes, nose and arms, etc.

                                    So Curiosity hasn't killed the cat, yet, (please don't post that one again, LOL) but with any luck it will run over something like this, then the cat really will be let out of the bag!

                                    Seems more and more likely that Mars is an arid planet, like AU, outback, but probably has more fertile areas as well!

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                                      Also looks like Mars is getting crowded, and other countries are launching their own, secret missions!

                                      Makes sense, cover it up, and you don't have any coverup issues, and you are free to checkout anything interesting!!!

                                      A hacker, got into NASA's database, l get this one, and he claims he has more!

                                      Clearly from the dust, and tracks, this rover is moving, and looks Russian to me? Compact design, seems to have a dish on top, etc!



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                                        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                        Also looks like Mars is getting crowded, and other countries are launching their own, secret missions!

                                        Makes sense, cover it up, and you don't have any coverup issues, and you are free to checkout anything interesting!!!

                                        A hacker, got into NASA's database, l get this one, and he claims he has more!

                                        Clearly from the dust, and tracks, this rover is moving, and looks Russian to me? Compact design, seems to have a dish on top, etc!



                                        Shane
                                        That looks like a SUV on the Playa. If not - it's photoshop.
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                                          Clearly shows? That thing is too blurred to show anything clearly. This one is a toss out.
                                          Hmmmm, tough audience!

                                          Well, l wouldn't toss this out, since whatever this is, it looks remarkably like a fox, so l will put this in the compelling basket!


                                          That looks like a SUV on the Playa. If not - it's photoshop.
                                          Yep, since NASA won't re release the image, it could be fake, but again it might not be?

                                          Russia launched a mission to land on Phobos, one of Mars moons on 2011, and collect samples to return to Earth. Since landing on one of the moons requires little fuel, very weak gravity, it is possible that they piggybacked this rover as well. Explains why it is compact in design.

                                          If this is genuine, and it isn't someones washing machine/go-cart Photoshopped onto a C-rover image, then it means that there could be something seriously compelling about this area?

                                          The sooner NASA pulls their finger out the better!

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                                            This one has to be real????? :rolleyes:....



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                                              The plot thickens....

                                              Curiosity rover finds organic compounds, but are they from Mars? - Cosmic Log

                                              Unfortunately l found this one as well!!!!

                                              Curiosity starts quarter-mile journey that could reveal secrets of Mars | Science | The Observer

                                              Crap! So much for the big announcement, now l am seriously P**** off!!!

                                              But this one may just dig down 2 metres and announce something!!!! So l won't give up hope!!!

                                              20 + years of NASA coverups and BS, let's hope a UFO lands in Washington somewhere!!!! :rolleyes:



                                              Their colour!



                                              True colour. Funny thing about both images is you can see the blue sky reflected in the wheels!



                                              Interesting images of the dry lake bed Curiosity was driving near or through. Spotted these images that look like a petrified fish of some kind!



                                              Martian rock or fossilized fish?



                                              Nothing much in this image, l just thought that it was cool! But it does show the bright blue sky reflecting off the rocks. Just another sunny day on Mars!

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                                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

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                                                Martian rock or fossilized fish?

                                                Shane
                                                DUDE! HOLY COW -- I just blew this one up a tad and that rock you thought could be a fossilized fish? It's freaking Agate! No lie - nothing else looks like agate (to my eye anyhow - which happens to be pretty well trained. I'm known for being able to spot an agate at 100 paces). Listen - those poorly formed circles are pure chalcedony. They're also hollow or clear centered. That means they could be fossilized type stuff - but most likely not since there was obviously some sort of percolating action since there's so many other orbicular rocks. It is definitely agate though and it looks like a bizzaro great specimen of tubular agate. Which means - silicon and water, for one thing.

                                                Man, I wonder if they have any seats open for the next trip - I want that rock! It would make some absolutely awesome slabs.
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                                                  Man, I wonder if they have any seats open for the next trip - I want that rock! It would make some absolutely awesome slabs.
                                                  Hmmm, in 2030 an entranapeur wants to send people there on a one way trip, if he gets enough funding? Might be one option!

                                                  What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
                                                  Yep, that's NASA for you, avoid anything controversial, and go for boring or mildly interesting!


                                                  When l scoured the raw images trying to find the image from different angles of the top image thing, l came across some more tubular structures, not as conclusive as the top image but certainly visible!

                                                  After the feedback l got l deleted those ones, but don't worry they weren't anything to get excited about, but l will dig up the top image and try to find some more fascinating stuff!

                                                  If this is space junk, then Russian parts is the only possible thing, apart from alien junk, past missions before earthlings had a nuclear war, etc... :rolleyes:

                                                  And someone at NASA said the blue colouring was caused by Aluminum oxides, or something like that?

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                                                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                    Hmmm, in 2030 an entranapeur wants to send people there on a one way trip, if he gets enough funding? Might be one option!
                                                    I'd prefer Sal to go on a return trip.

                                                    However, there are a couple of former members of this forum to whose one-way trip expenses I'll glady and generously contribute myself, if this plan comes to fruition.
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                                                    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                                                    What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
                                                    I can answer that: it's almost entirely due to the fact that missions like Curiousity take a very long time from conception to launch (typically 10-15 years). In order to be able to advance things at a reasonable rate, the technology used is basically 'set in stone' at an early stage. The 2 megapixel cameras (and 8GB of flash memory) used on this rover were pretty good way back in 2003, but, now, in 2013, you'd get better (by far) on a cheap mobile phone. However, if they kept changing the specs to accomodate new technological advancements before launch, it would never be launched.

                                                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                    If this is space junk, then Russian parts is the only possible thing, apart from alien junk, past missions before earthlings had a nuclear war, etc...
                                                    I always wondered about the last Russian mission to Mars, which they said was lost shortly after launch and crash-landed somewhere in the Pacific, though no remains were ever located (even though at least part of it should have survived).

                                                    How easy would it be (probably not very) to say, "Uh oh! Sorry everyone... we've had an accident... the mission is lost" even if it hasn't been? You'd then be free to continue on your way to explore whatever goodies you think are out there without having to face demands from those pesky taxpayers to at least show them some pictures in return for the hundreds of billions of roubles of their money you spent on it.

                                                    There's a new conspiracy theory for your consideration!

                                                    Incidentally, the Russians are VERY interested in Mars and, perhaps even more so, Phobos, the Martian moon. I don't know if anyone else remembers the infamous "Phobos 2 Incident" where a Russian probe of that name was cut off mid-transmission when it was approaching Phobos, and suddenly began wildly spinning out of control, as if hit by something. The last transmission (the part that was received) was classified, though the picture below (which looks like an infrared image) is (supposedly) at least a portion of it:



                                                    The irregular object is Phobos.

                                                    The (seemingly massive) cylindrical object is unexplained.
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                                                      I always wondered about the last Russian mission to Mars, which they said was lost shortly after launch and crash-landed somewhere in the Pacific, though no remains were ever located (even though at least part of it should have survived).

                                                      How easy would it be (probably not very) to say, "Uh oh! Sorry everyone... we've had an accident... the mission is lost" even if it hasn't been? You'd then be free to continue on your way to explore whatever goodies you think are out there without having to face demands from those pesky taxpayers to at least show them some pictures in return for the hundreds of billions of roubles of their money you spent on it.

                                                      There's a new conspiracy theory for your consideration!
                                                      Well the Russians, might be playing hide and seek, but the UK might be in on the act as well! They said the Beagle probe crashed or landed in a crevice, but maybe not?

                                                      Maybe it landed near an alien statue, etc, and they had to say it crashed?

                                                      I know it could have also been squashed by a Transformer, (l have seen the last one, or second last)? LOL! :p

                                                      Shane

                                                      PS eventhough the tech, might be a bit old, as the rovers demonstrated, with the Mars statue, previous mission, instead of going to take a closer look, they, (NASA officials) instead said it was erosion of a rock, etc!

                                                      I know that if l spent $100,000 plus sending two rovers to Mars and one see's something that looks like a statue, of course l would take a closer look, etc.

                                                      But since the military owns or runs NASA, all the good stuff is kept at arms length!!!!

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                                                        Ok, you are going to like this one! First shot shows what looks like a bomb, (probably a rock, but?) but while l was putting this together l saw something else, and l am still getting over the shock!!!!

                                                        These were taken from Curiosity raw images, front cam, (l can dig up the sol, if pushed into a corner). :rolleyes:

                                                        First image!



                                                        Notice anything else??? I was wondering why NASA took so many shots of this area, but as you will see, this is why.....



                                                        Still can't see it, here are some closer shots!



                                                        Yep, its a creek, with water!!! I thought that it was probably the shadows of the rocks, but there is too much evidence going against it...

                                                        Apart from white streaks here and there, showing that it is flowing fairly quickly, there is also a reflection on the above right hand rock! Its suttle, but there!







                                                        This shows the start of the creek, with reflections and whiter areas indicating water traveling down. And this shot also shows that it isn't the shadow of the rocks!



                                                        And if that wasn't enough this image also picked up plants, or what looks like reeds?



                                                        This image further down shows longer ones! I thought that these may be pixel errors, but there are plenty of areas that don't have these things.

                                                        But remember that NASA officials publicly said that water existed on Mars surface, so this is perfectly viable! Probably a spring, since as far as we know, Mars doesn't have rain?

                                                        And also demonstrates, that NASA is intentionally holding back the ground breaking stuff like this to the American Public and the world. And is studying stuff like this from a distance, so people don't catch on!

                                                        Shane

                                                        PS couldn't find anything else near the water, but if you spot a rabbit, etc let me know! LOL.
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                                                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                          Yep, its a creek, with water!!!
                                                          Bit of a long bow drawn there. It may indeed be a "creek", but there's no evidence at all that what flowed there was water. It could have been lava or any number of liquified substances.
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                            Why does that lake look like it has a road leading to a parking lot on the one side of it. You could get the same shot from many of the reservoirs out here. Some are just as barren of vegetation as that one appears to be, too. Some of those shots of the stream seem to have a lot of green, but is too pixilated to see what it is.

                                                            The blue rock doesn't really intrigue me that much - there's plenty that look just like that on earth.
                                                            Hmmm, more likely a gulley, when it overflowed?

                                                            Bit of a long bow drawn there. It may indeed be a "creek", but there's no evidence at all that what flowed there was water. It could have been lava or any number of liquified substances.
                                                            True it may not be water, but whatever it is, it reflects like water, and has mud mixed in with it, like water, and is transparent like water, so l will stick with water!

                                                            Remember that NASA officials have publicly said, that they saw 2 to 3 swimming pools of water, flowing down the side of a crater! Which means water, is trapped below the surface, and occasionally or continually comes to the surface!

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                                                              Hmmm, odd's on its water! :p

                                                              The second red arrow shows some moss growing out of the rock, possibly indicating a wet or damp area!

                                                              The third arrow on the right is showing some weird rock; looks like a petrified piece of wood? Any ideas Sal? :rolleyes:

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                                                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


                                                                Hmmm, odd's on its water! :p
                                                                ..................................
                                                                Any ideas Sal? :rolleyes:

                                                                Shane
                                                                Um...Dude. Right now I am so totally stoked you would not believe it.

                                                                You wouldn't believe the time I've spent looking at this picture. It's incredible.

                                                                As far as water - it looks like there was at one time. Those rocks are incredible. It looks like they contain a lot of calcite or chalcedony, and that means water at one time. The matrix appears to be a sedimentary - looks like mud stone on earth looks. Mud stone can get pretty hard. Put enough silicon in it and you can come up with jaspers, agate, opals. If there was life there that got buried in that silt when it died, there well could be fossil. You're not going to point to something up in new trerrain and say "petrified wood" - you have to be right on top of wood to see that it's petrified in the rough - other fossil types sometimes, too. I am going to say that there's a good possibility if there was water and life there once, that it's a very possible environment right there to find them in. But that's not what's cranking my sails at the moment..........

                                                                It's the transparent cylinder that wigged me. Okay - look in the black circle I drew left/center near the top. There are two rocks beside each other - the one on the right is bigger. Now look at where those rocks come together. If you look a little up, there's a shadow under an oval looking rock - and if you follow your eye down from there you can see two faint lines that descend from the sides of that oval. If you magnify that pic - you can see that the lines run right in front of those two rocks - and that the rocks are actually behind it. You can also see that the oval rock itself look like a lid that is sitting open just a bit. I'd swear that's a transparent tube - and not a natural one. Freaked me out something furious when I saw it. This is all the more I could blow it up without it pixilating, but hit your control plus a few times and you might be able to see the whole thing. It comes out of the ground just right of the little light colored rock under the rock on the left.
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                                                                  Hmmmm, yep my carcass is here, LOL!



                                                                  I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.

                                                                  Pity about the other rock, could have opened up some exciting possibilities.

                                                                  The main thing that has my attention is the moss growing out of the white rock. If it is anything like earth moss, then it indicates moisture! And since it isn't dry or dead looking, it may indicate constant moisture or water!




                                                                  Only a matter of time before Curiosity makes a mistake and drives over or near, a stream, puddle, etc.

                                                                  I will post here when something crops up.

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                                                                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                                    Hmmmm, yep my carcass is here, LOL!



                                                                    I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.

                                                                    Pity about the other rock, could have opened up some exciting possibilities.

                                                                    The main thing that has my attention is the moss growing out of the white rock. If it is anything like earth moss, then it indicates moisture! And since it isn't dry or dead looking, it may indicate constant moisture or water!




                                                                    Only a matter of time before Curiosity makes a mistake and drives over or near, a stream, puddle, etc.

                                                                    I will post here when something crops up.

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                                                                    Why isn't this BREAKING NEWS on every news channel in the world.
                                                                    I mean, this is amazing, isn't it?
                                                                    I knew there was supposed to be water under the surface, but this is (for me anyway) solid proof that there is water on the surface of Mars.

                                                                    Great work, tagiscom!
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                                      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                      Well, after stumbling across this one, Mars may have cats or foxes! Explains why l couldn't find any more rabbits?

                                      This is the best l could do, from the HD video below, and not surprisingly NASA has held back on releasing the original images. :rolleyes:

                                      UFO Breaking News!! Alien Life Discovered in Mars UFO 2013. by Ofuhunter - YouTube




                                      These two images were taken from slightly different angles, and clearly show ears, eyes, nose and arms, etc.

                                      So Curiosity hasn't killed the cat, yet, (please don't post that one again, LOL) but with any luck it will run over something like this, then the cat really will be let out of the bag!

                                      Seems more and more likely that Mars is an arid planet, like AU, outback, but probably has more fertile areas as well!

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                                      Clearly shows? That thing is too blurred to show anything clearly. This one is a toss out.
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    That looks like a petrified fish? Okay. The only thing I've seen petrified that bears even a remote resemblance to that is the Seazoria Dragon. I'm not sure what people see in a few of these pics. There are a few that have really been obvious - but sometimes I think people start pointing to anything and everything - just getting way too imaginative.
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      That looks like a petrified fish? Okay. The only thing I've seen petrified that bears even a remote resemblance to that is the Seazoria Dragon. I'm not sure what people see in a few of these pics. There are a few that have really been obvious - but sometimes I think people start pointing to anything and everything - just getting way too imaginative.
      Yep, that's true, l found a few more, that were too iffy to put here, l only try to post when l find something compelling!


      I have found others on YouTube, that put up anything and call it a life form! And it's pretty obvious it isn't or it is so dodgy it is more likely it's nothing out of the ordinary!


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        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        Nothing you've posted so far is even remotely compelling. They're all simply rock forms that happen to look something vaguely similar to stuff we have on Earth.

        Don't get me wrong, I want to believe (truly), but you're going to have to do a lot better than you have so far to convince me.

        Many years ago I worked in the Outback (near Meekatharra in case you're interested), and I found many rock formations that looked like other stuff.

        Same as your "compelling" "evidence". It's just rocks that look like stuff. Nothing more, nothing less.
        Okay - I'm out in all sorts of rocky terrain all the time. It's my forte. I agree that most of the pics take some imagination, and a few I can't even get enough imagination to call anything but a rock formation...........but..........
        Take another look at the photo in post #51 - it's on he first page a few times, too, if you want different views of it.

        I'm sorry - that's not natural. I've seen natural tubes in rock, I've seen perfect spheres of rock, rock that looks like holes were actually drilled in rock but were natural - and different formations of natural metals. You will never convince me that there is anything in nature whatsoever that even closely resembles that thing.
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          You will never convince me that there is anything in nature whatsoever that even closely resembles that thing.
          Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
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            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
            I admit I did wonder about this, too.

            I agree that as we're seeing the photo, that one doesn't look "natural", but (a) that's also been true, previously, of countless NASA photos of the moon which turned out to have entirely "innocent explanations", and (b) without knowing how much it's been "corrected" before we're seeing it, to try to illustrate what's being alleged here, it's pretty difficult even to discuss, isn't it? :confused:
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              I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C. Even in the depths of winter, there was never a minus day.

              Where exactly are these "typical" figures you quoted taken from, apart from the obvious?
              What is the Temperature of Mars? | Space.com


              Nothing you've posted so far is even remotely compelling. They're all simply rock forms that happen to look something vaguely similar to stuff we have on Earth.
              Well, you have a point, but, l thought that the image showing Mars blue sky, and green algae in the front was pretty compelling! :rolleyes:

              Obviously the rocks looking like this and that is more speculative, although some as Heysal has said, are worth further investigation!



              Interesting thing about this one, (we will ignore the fox part) is the same hollow tubes are present in the rock, (left hand image, front of rock) and seemed to be covered up by something in the other image.

              I agree that as we're seeing the photo, that one doesn't look "natural", but (a) that's also been true, previously, of countless NASA photos of the moon which turned out to have entirely "innocent explanations", and (b) without knowing how much it's been "corrected" before we're seeing it, to try to illustrate what's being alleged here, it's pretty difficult even to discuss, isn't it?
              Hmmm, l scoured Mars Curiosity raw photos for the handful above, but l will go back through the images around the tube structure, may find something else!


              And for the record l did find a parrot type rock, but dismissed it as being too dodgy to post!


              There's a fine line between dodgy rock and compelling something else, but l will do my best!!! :rolleyes:


              Shane ...

              PS where l got the outback av, temp,...

              http://www.outback-australia-travel-...peratures.html
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            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
            There are only a few choices if it's not natural. Either someone THERE made it, something fell through the atomosphere (space trash) from somewhere, or someone from somewhere else beat us there. That brings us all the way back to the argument about other beings somewhere. As far as I'm gonna get into that one is that I really highly doubt with 99% certainty that thing is natural.
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    I scanned all the pictures, I'd like to keep track of this development too. Good thing I stumbled upon this forum thread, very interesting.
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    I wish all these photos are real, if not, I wish NASA could install some CCTVs on Mars when they will have an upcoming mission over there.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I wish all these photos are real, if not, I wish NASA could install some CCTVs on Mars when they will have an upcoming mission over there.
      CCTVs on Mars??? :confused: If you mean more cameras on their space craft, then l couldn't agree more. Unfortunately as l have shown with the "Sky blue thread," (at the start of this post) we won't see it!!! :rolleyes:

      Only a handful of a**** in NASA, will see the truly exciting stuff! But a millionaire wants to go to Mars in the next 10 years, and is planning to launch a probe or rover to the red planet in a few years time, to find a likely landing site for a manned landing.

      He will beam back and run experiments, to show the world what is really there, and l am sure if his rover see's some weird stuff in the distance, he won't run and hide like NASA is currently doing, but will take a closer look!

      True most of these photos are up for debate, but a handful, like the blue sky and algae past rover mission photos, show at the very least, Mars has a blue sky, plant life, (albeit primitive) and can support water on its service. It also very likely has high oxygen levels, and can support animal life, but l can't conclusively prove that one at this time!

      Although it seems likely! :p

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    Shane - do you know anything about surface or air temps there?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Shane - do you know anything about surface or air temps there?
      Yep, typical temp, at the equator, or where Curiosity almost is, is minus 100 C at night and plus 20 c during a sunny day!

      Although this is based on models that say Mars has a very thin atmosphere and can't retain any heat?


      Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!


      So Mars is freezing at night, but not to the point that nothing living couldn't survive.

      And l suspect that since Mars has a blue sky, and wispy high altitude clouds, some heat is probably retained!

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!
        Having worked in the outback (see above), I'm not sure where you got those "typical" figures from.

        I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C. Even in the depths of winter, there was never a minus day.

        Where exactly are these "typical" figures you quoted taken from?
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          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C.
          I should add that on the one day that reached 58C, the thermometer was out in the direct sunlight, so it wasn't an "official" temperature. Official temperatures are always recorded with the thermometer in the shade.

          Nevertheless, there were quite a few days that were officially in the mid to high 40's.
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!
        You must be thinking of Siberia, I think? Shane, this can't possibly be anywhere close to correct at all! Winter nights, when exceptionally cold there, can be just below zero: Australian Outback Temperatures - Monthly Temperature Averages

        This needs to be "corrected" (just like those photos!), if you want it to illustrate your purported point. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shane - I did some messing with the pic in #76 - gamma correction, saturation, different color concentration, contrast, etc. It appears natural. There seems to be a lot of orbicular rock on the planet. That's not all that strange to me. There's a lot of it out here in the west, too.

    What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
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    Why does that lake look like it has a road leading to a parking lot on the one side of it. You could get the same shot from many of the reservoirs out here. Some are just as barren of vegetation as that one appears to be, too. Some of those shots of the stream seem to have a lot of green, but is too pixilated to see what it is.

    The blue rock doesn't really intrigue me that much - there's plenty that look just like that on earth.
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    That's not moss - it's the color of the rock - it looks agatized or opalized. Nothing organic at all.

    You can't see the lines of the tube under that "lid" that I circled? The one under the ledge is just a rock in shadow - there is a tube under the other one. Look close - blow it up and you can see it more detailed. If I could post that blow up I've got you'd be able to see it, but I had to make the pic bigger then hit the magnify feature a couple of times to be sure what I was seeing.

    I just checked - hit "control +" twice and you will be able to see what I'm saying. It blows it up just enough to really see it.
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    It's NOT moss -- It's the color of the rock -- I could show you exxamples of what it looks like right from earth. This isn't an odd coloration or formation for this type of minerals/rock. It's bigger than I've seen here - but it's not different.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Phew, took a lot of effort to find it, hard to say whether it is the reflection off the water, or a tube?

      The rock near it, also add's to the mystery?



      You are right about the moss, it is a mineral of some kind, looks like jade or green opal!

      Congratulations, on finding the first valuable mineral on Mars! You will need to come up with a name?

      Maybe "Saljade"? :rolleyes:

      But l will name the creek, "Jade Gulley"! LOL

      Why isn't this BREAKING NEWS on every news channel in the world.
      I mean, this is amazing, isn't it?
      I knew there was supposed to be water under the surface, but this is (for me anyway) solid proof that there is water on the surface of Mars.

      Great work, tagiscom!
      Yep, you would think so, but Curiosity, just keeps moving forward, and avoids what Americans paid 2.5 billion to find???

      Congress needs to pressure NASA to turn the rover around and go check this out!!!


      Yep, it is amazing l got goosebumps when l first saw this! And still do; whats more amazing is that no one else spotted this, it has been in the raw data for weeks, possibly months, and l just stumbled across it! No YouTube videos???

      No, the media is under someone else s control, and NASA takes orders from the military. So because of litigation, and NASA getting overhauled and the loss of control crap, this exciting stuff is buried!

      It won't be buried forever, one day!

      This is one of the reasons why world gov, want to control the internet, stop people like me, finding the truth!

      Or especially stop the masses from finding this sort of stuff?

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    I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.
    I just looked at the pic I put on my own computer - played with the contrast a little more and I can still see the tube but I don't think it's transparent - it looks like it's wedged against the rock on the right, not in front of it. I can see it better though when I do things to the pic like change the contrast or coloring. I didn't see it at all until I was looking at that big ledge across the center of the pic. There's actually a rim around that "rock" I said looks like a lid.

    It's not jade (although there might be jade up there, who knows?). It very well could be opal. The white seams look like either agate or opal. Looks glassy enough to be opal, but I've seen more chalcedony (agate) in seams like that than opal. Agate and opal are very close in chemical composition - but agate isn't as brittle. The way there are cracks running here and there along it, makes it look brittle enough to be opal. Definitely would like to see clearer pictures. I'm only able to blow this up so far between OO draw and Irfanview to get a decent enough look at it to be able to SEE what I'm looking at. When the pics get as blurred as the one in your last post, it's kind of a waste of the eyes and time to bother looking at them. That's why I took it off here and played with it on my own machine. I had to cut the size back down on the pic I put in here and things don't show as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      No it is not moss, I have been examining the photo quite extensively and came to the conclusion that it is Micheal Jackson.
      Micheal Jackson being sick perhaps? :rolleyes:

      I just looked at the pic I put on my own computer - played with the contrast a little more and I can still see the tube but I don't think it's transparent - it looks like it's wedged against the rock on the right, not in front of it. I can see it better though when I do things to the pic like change the contrast or coloring. I didn't see it at all until I was looking at that big ledge across the center of the pic. There's actually a rim around that "rock" I said looks like a lid.
      Yep, took another good squeeze, it doesn't look anything like the surrounding water gulleys, and as you were saying is a tube shape, (from the highlight) and also has copper strips. Hinting that it is artificial.

      Nice catch on that one, totally missed it, probably because l was getting over the water shock!

      But l will still call it Jade Gulley, has a nice ring to it!!! :rolleyes:

      It's not jade (although there might be jade up there, who knows?). It very well could be opal. The white seams look like either agate or opal. Looks glassy enough to be opal, but I've seen more chalcedony (agate) in seams like that than opal. Agate and opal are very close in chemical composition - but agate isn't as brittle. The way there are cracks running here and there along it, makes it look brittle enough to be opal. Definitely would like to see clearer pictures. I'm only able to blow this up so far between OO draw and Irfanview to get a decent enough look at it to be able to SEE what I'm looking at. When the pics get as blurred as the one in your last post, it's kind of a waste of the eyes and time to bother looking at them. That's why I took it off here and played with it on my own machine. I had to cut the size back down on the pic I put in here and things don't show as well.
      There are also tubes across the top of this, Opal, which shows that there was a lot of water in this area in the past!

      Just went through the images again and found something else...



      Remember how l said that they should go and have a closer look, l think they have, but just blocked the images, etc from the general public.

      Take a look at the middle, left part of the picture, looks like a Curiosity wheel track to me!

      Makes sense, find something that looks like a flowing creek, encrypt the images and take a closer look. No doubt NASA has all the high res, close up pictures of this! Guaranteed that if they got bogged, they would make up some crap about the 10 cameras malfunctioning, until they got free.

      Arrrrrgggggg At least we have these!

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    That's one of my peeves with this also is that there is nothing that we can use for size references. As far as the wheel track - same thing I said about their little pond - reservoir or whatever - it looked like an old road running along the side of it.

    Also - that old creek bed in the other pic? How do we know its not seasonly full? There are a lot of creeks out here in the west that only exist as creeks during the rainy season. That might still have running water at different seasons of the year. When was the rover taking this pic and in what hemisphere? Was it winter or summer or what? I think these pictures are pretty indicative that someone was there before us - might even be there somewhere. All we've been shown is desert shots. That does NOT mean the whole planet is a desert. It means that what they show us are pics of the desert. I just wonder if who was there was indigenous or came in from elsewhere to do some exploring.

    Well, I've seen enough to know that there is rock there that really is a flip out for a rockhound. I imagine there are geologists who have the inside tract to the NASA photos that are just drooling over a chance to go pick some of those up in person. I presume they have better pics of the non-natural things laying around there, too. Kinda sucks to be an outsider when stuff like this is going on. As many contacts I have in the science fields - I'll never get into the inside track on this one. Damn it.

    By the way - where are you pulling these pics from? I'd like to browse through them myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      That's one of my peeves with this also is that there is nothing that we can use for size references. As far as the wheel track - same thing I said about their little pond - reservoir or whatever - it looked like an old road running along the side of it.
      They occasionally do 3D ones, or ones where you can use the old 3D glasses.

      Also - that old creek bed in the other pic? How do we know its not seasonly full? There are a lot of creeks out here in the west that only exist as creeks during the rainy season. That might still have running water at different seasons of the year. When was the rover taking this pic and in what hemisphere? Was it winter or summer or what? I think these pictures are pretty indicative that someone was there before us - might even be there somewhere. All we've been shown is desert shots. That does NOT mean the whole planet is a desert. It means that what they show us are pics of the desert. I just wonder if who was there was indigenous or came in from elsewhere to do some exploring.
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      It is winter on Mars, at present, and it landed up from the equator, somewhere? Google will give you the exact loc,.

      Yep, some areas on Mars could have a lot more than reeds and algae, if springs are possible, then lakes, etc could also exist! :p


      Well, I've seen enough to know that there is rock there that really is a flip out for a rockhound. I imagine there are geologists who have the inside tract to the NASA photos that are just drooling over a chance to go pick some of those up in person. I presume they have better pics of the non-natural things laying around there, too. Kinda sucks to be an outsider when stuff like this is going on. As many contacts I have in the science fields - I'll never get into the inside track on this one. Damn it.

      By the way - where are you pulling these pics from? I'd like to browse through them myself.
      Amm, go to this site..... Mars Science Laboratory: Raw Images

      And go to the camera...Mast Camera (Mastcam) this is the bottom, right hand side one.

      The Sol 194, are the ones where it was going up a hill and found Jade Creek!

      Or the date was roughly, 2013-02-25 09:36:36 UTC.

      And just click on the image a few times to get the wide screen version to scour for interesting stuff, or download!

      Didn't have time to get the exact images, but they are there somewhere! If you find something interesting, please post it here! And remember one of the other cameras takes close ups of rocks!



      Now, l am stoked as well, l saw the pipe, but interpreted the end of the pipe as a rock, now l get it!!!! :rolleyes:

      This thing has an end, and some kind of handles, so someone or something can or could position it!

      Best guess, it is used to drag water up from the natural spring below ground?

      Can't believe l missed that one???? :confused:

      Sweet!!! :p

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
        Phew, took a lot of looking, but here is your rabbit again!



        The image on the left is probably 2 rabbits, by the two sets of ears, that l thought were reeds, (the image below shows this more clearly) and the one on the right, which is a lot more compelling, because the blurry image and cropped more detailed ones, have a time difference!



        So if anything moves, then it could be living. The image on the right moved, or its ears that look like reeds, moved from beside each other to apart, (top image). Hard to make out, whether we are seeing this thing from the front or back? But it's there!

        I was hoping to find something taking a drink, it looks like Mars has a good collection of small rodents, etc! Nothing big, but l have heard rumors!

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    Middle arrow looks like a coiled snake - and the one on the left looks like a turtle with eyes or ears on stalks or some such. Can't even let my imagination wander on the right arrow. It just looks blurry.
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      Yep the first on the left does look that way. Normally l would dismiss most of these, but the ears, tend to give them away! The earns are similar to the first rabbit images, (the ones around the rabbit video)!

      I would say that the second one, is looking at the rover, with it's tail curled around itself, like a cat!

      I also put both these images together and constantly pressed the display remove button, so l could spot any movement. The middle arrow, rabbit did move, in a substantial way or a way that was very unlikely caused by blurring.

      But since they all have earns, they are all open to being alive and kicking!

      At least when the millionaire sends people to Mars, they should carry a gun or rifle?

      Or a fishing line???? :confused:

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    I'm not sure what you mean that you see them moving. While I named animals they resemble, I don't find them much different to the other rocks around there. What do you mean "moving"?
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      I'm not sure what you mean that you see them moving. While I named animals they resemble, I don't find them much different to the other rocks around there. What do you mean "moving"?


      I mean that l put the more detailed image, (parts of it are above) over the blurry image above, and made one of the images transparent, so l could get both the pictures spot on. And then removed the image and bought it back, so l could spot anything moving. NASA may have used the same trick to see if anything was moving about, (take 2 images a few seconds, etc apart and compare the images to see if anything has moved).

      A bit like a PNG animation, but done manually! So when l did this with the right hand image above, there was too big a difference for it to be normal blur, and the ears being together for the blurry image, and apart for the more detailed one!

      The ears aren't easy to see, but they are there! The more distant image makes it easier to see, that the ear positions have changed, (end of thread 2)!

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        The ears aren't easy to see, but they are there!
        What do you think they're breathing, Shane? (The "animals", not their ears).

        How do you think they stay alive?
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          What do you think they're breathing, Shane? (The "animals", not their ears).

          How do you think they stay alive?
          Yeah, l know Mars atmosphere is supposed to be 98 C02, 2% Oxygen!

          This is according to NASA, who got the air pressure wrong, (at the air pressure they claim, there wouldn't be any sky colour, and water would boil away).

          They also said that Mars sky colour is red, grey, (clearly not true, thread one, sky colour thread link).

          And they said that they couldn't find out where the Methane is coming from, eventhough they are driving past plenty of green stuff that is producing it, (it can only come from animals, plants or volcanic activity, no volcanic activity has been found).


          And they drive past a creek with flowing water, and we don't hear a peep!!!! :confused:

          No, one third of Mars has some kind of plant matter, (l have only found algae, so far, but there could be more complex plants, etc) although, algae can produce oxygen!

          So, these animals, including us only need about 20% oxygen to breath, one third of Mars with oxygen producing algae, would be more than enough!


          NASA has B***S****, for so long, l tend to ignore their data, relating to life on Mars!

          Mars is only the tip of the iceberg, in regards to coverups, but l will stay with Mars for this post!

          Don't have time to do a Moon one!!! :rolleyes: And yeah, l agree that the Moon is lifeless, for the record!


          Just go through the entire thread again to see the reasons why l believe the oxygen levels are probably much higher than their data.

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            I have felt like l have hit the Mars jackpot, there are a lot more than Rabbits here! And l have even found out where they live!

            I may have found some other weird creatures, but that is an open subject, at the very least l have found some more plant life!

            Probably explains where the Rabbits get their food from, roots, etc!



            Ok, first is the top image, you can see an entrance, and a white path. I haven't got a clue what the things sticking out around the top are? The thing it is next to, looks like a weird rock formation, l won't say this is a giant Martain crab, but it is a cool idea?

            The top right image looks like a sea clam, we find in Earths, oceans, that has been exposed, for a time.

            And last of all, is this weird thing, (bottom image) martian pipes, creature or rock formation's, your guess is as good as mine?

            There is clearly a lot more to Mars than meets the eye, l wish NASA would cut the crap, and tell the truth!!!!!

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              More Jade creek images, there could be some more rabbits here??? :rolleyes:

              But at least it adds some more proof to the water on Mars, idea!



              This one continues from the above one or attaches to the right hand side of the first.



              This image also shows water flowing down in a stream, (middle of image) to the water below.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Man, that rock is just killin' me. Holy cow what I would give to stumble on something like that down here. I don't even need to see anything else - I just want to be there - even for just a day or two.

    Incidentally - the "rabbits"? Did you never read the nonsense thread in here? I don't think it's available in archives anymore but...........we were talking about fluffy internet bunnies on Mars years back so the site of anything resembling a rabbit is kinda freaky. This is a pic we did on my site years back - it was a real Mars pic from back then -- before all of these they have posted now.

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Man, that rock is just killin' me. Holy cow what I would give to stumble on something like that down here. I don't even need to see anything else - I just want to be there - even for just a day or two.

      Incidentally - the "rabbits"? Did you never read the nonsense thread in here? I don't think it's available in archives anymore but...........we were talking about fluffy internet bunnies on Mars years back so the site of anything resembling a rabbit is kinda freaky. This is a pic we did on my site years back - it was a real Mars pic from back then -- before all of these they have posted now.
      LOL, yeah, l thought it might!!! No l didn't read the nonsense thread, on that one, don't think that l was a member back then?


      The top image with the thing near the rocky looking crab, is the thing that has got my attention! Because of the things coming out of it's top, and sides, with the two main ones going up on right angles, l am starting to think that this thing is living?

      Something the size of a cat, that is a cross between, a blob, and a snail, is seriously weird!

      Certainly gives the scientists that speculate about other life forms and how weird it could get, some credibility.


      There probably is other weird stuff, but this is all l could find at present, will have to go back to the Blob, Slug thing later. And post it here of course, if l find anything postworthy!

      It seems that truth is stranger than fiction in this case!

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        Ok, this image shows some more fascinating stuff, the blown up left image shows what looks like a martian white flower. And the image on the right, has a hamster type critter sitting on the ? With maybe one or two rabbits further back? The thing further down on the sand is probably another armadillo type creatures, but it could just be a rock?



        This thing is seriously weird, it seems to have legs, and a mouth, etc. God knows what the white stuff is? Best guess is something sticky that captures prey, or it ate something that didn't agree with it, or it is blowing out on a cold morning?

        Or it is eating something? Your guess is as good as mine?


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          Then we have a mountain goat, or something like that, (top image) and below we have yet more rabbits having a conference?

          You can see two with their eyes pointing towards the camera and one facing with its back to the camera, (middle one).

          They all have the large earns, though, like in the original image....



          Looks like Mars is over run with these things! What else is new!!! :rolleyes:

          There are some more rabbits here and there, but l think once you have seem one Martian rabbit, you have seen them all!



          And this is the best we get from NASA, saying that water flowed on Mars in the past!!!!:rolleyes:


          This video drags on for almost an hour, and says virtually nothing!

          I'd better end this post, l feel a four letter word coming on!!!!


          And them we have a video from an intelligent source....



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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I've got no doubt there's still water around, but I seriously can't figure out the lack of vegetation. If there is life on the planet, what would it use for nutrition? Sand eaters? Maybe some small vegetation that doesn't show up in these pics. I haven't seen one pic from that planet that would give us one idea of what the lowest level of a food chain would consist of.
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      I've got no doubt there's still water around, but I seriously can't figure out the lack of vegetation. If there is life on the planet, what would it use for nutrition? Sand eaters? Maybe some small vegetation that doesn't show up in these pics. I haven't seen one pic from that planet that would give us one idea of what the lowest level of a food chain would consist of.
      LOL, funny you should mention that! I have gone through all the images l could find around Sol 194, (if l remember correctly) and have found tree like things, more bigger life forms, and other serious stuff, (l am still shaking, over this and the other stuff) l will post here asap!

      I will only say that if the popular media got hold of this stuff, it would scare a lot of people or even cause riots, etc.

      The only hint l will give is the blob type creature in previous shots, was eating the top of one of the tree like things, which are dotted across the landscape! Enough said!

      Shane

      And l will include this teaser image of Mars fossils!

      ------------VVV MAN VVV?


      I still can't figure out whether or not the top left hand thing is a man in a spacesuit?
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        Ok, here we go! First off ignore the first blowup image, l thought it was something else?

        Second one shows a pool of water, with depth, and strange things growing around it. They look like a cross between a palm tree and a flamingo, or cotton wool? Must be edible by the blob creature, (previous image) and images below.

        The 3 lower images show a creature that looks like a nautalist, except it is on land, (and l have three of these image for the doubters).



        I thought that Sal would like this one, l know it is attached to a rock, but it looks like a metal can opener?



        Next we have more of this cotton wool, stuff, then we have two triangular things, might be living?

        The lower image might be a rock, but it seriously looks like a giant lizard leaning on a rock, watching some of this cotton wool stuff blowing in the wind.


        More cotton wool! This one is pretty obvious!



        Then we have more cotton wool and what looks like a bridge with a path! Mmmmmm?


        Then we catch up with some more of these blobby creatures, (you can tell by the eyes sticking out of it's head) scraping itself on the dirt, (might be feeding off something)? And more of the cotton wool.



        Now it starts to get serious! I heard leaked NASA personnel saying that up to one million earthlings were living on Mars? Initially l thought, yeah, what were they smoking at the time, but, check out the first blowup image; looks like a door of some kind, and if you doubt this l have another, same blue glass, similar design window coming up.

        Then we have some more cotton palms, and then we have this. Looks like someone is digging, etc!



        Next blownup image shows a silver thing, doesn't look like a rock to me!

        Second blownup image shows what looks like a clam!



        Then we have a crab, and the left hand image shows water over a rock outcrop!



        Then almost last we have top bu image, some more cotton palms blowing in the wind. Right hand image, a house of some kind, notice that the window color is the same as the previous door image.

        Then we have another rodent, and last of all is the icing on the cake. I have also heard reports that there were two capital cities on Mars, yeah, l know, but take a look at the bottom image.

        It shows one silver sphere, and another on top! considering the distance, this thing is big, it does have a base, and isn't a distortion. This structure is probably at least 10 or more storeys tall, certainly reminds me of a building or tower?

        There are other things in the distance that might be structures or might not? Too hard to tell, but at least it add's more credibility to this theory!



        Well, that is about it, hope that l didn't shock you too much. And spread the word about this, the more people that know the better!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Too many pics at once - I'm losing you. I can't find any of the stuff you are talking about. Is that sky or a frozen water body in that last pic? (it's in others, too but I'm just pointing to that one so not to confuse). Okay - the door and window thingy? Nadda. Just typical rock vug - agatized - same as the smaller ones in previous pictures that I howled about.

    I can't find any structure that would be the size of a 10 story building either. Just don't see it.

    Can opener is natural rock from what I can tell - but those angular indentations on the left don't look natural.

    Maybe it's my eyes, but to me once a pic is blurred - I can't tell what's going on. At all. You are talking about animals and all I see is pixilated stuff. I don't see even one of these trees your talking about. I'm not saying they aren't there - I just need a better picture to be able to see what I'm looking at.

    Now all those tubualr vugs in the agates that we've discussed before? Those could be fossil. If you are seeing tubular structures all over, then they could be some sort of coral or snail type thing. But once they are embedded in rock, they aren't live - they are either fossil or just mineral formation like right here on earth (of course, I can't say that 100 % because I am only comparing to Earth. I've never been to Mars and with pics like these will never be able to draw any positive conclusions - other than that agate. I know that type of rock and there is/was water, and silicon would not be an odd element. So....I can state that with a little bit of assurance.

    So is that sky or water? Looks like ice actually - is that at the icecap?
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    Okay - I just blew a few of these up. The stuff you have "cut out" from the pics is just too blurred to see a damned thing, as I said.

    It would help if I knew the dimensions of the pics - I see something that could be a city - but don't know if I'm looking at a very small clump of different rock or structures because of the size question. If it's a huge area, there could be a city with a pyramid in it -- if I'm looking at a fairly small area, I'm seeing just more rock formation.

    What I am looking for are road structures, and I've seen some things that have looked like roads in some pics - but can't be sure -- especially when I have no clue of the scale of size I'm looking at.

    Not sure where the idea of people up there is "leaked" from. Does that mean earthlings or does that mean martians or what and who said that?
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    In one of those pics, the blow up on the right side of the pic definitely looks like a road. I can't see where it goes to, but it's very clear for a ways. It bothers me that it looks so maintained, yet nothing around it looks like there is anything near a pathway for it to connect to - and if there is an old road that's covered, why would just that small section be maintained?

    As far as fossils - I see a LOT of things that could be fossil, but we'd have to know more about the terrain and fauna before we could actually tell that. There's a lot of rock that is just natural rock that looks like it could be fossil.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Too many pics at once - I'm losing you. I can't find any of the stuff you are talking about. Is that sky or a frozen water body in that last pic? (it's in others, too but I'm just pointing to that one so not to confuse). Okay - the door and window thingy? Nadda. Just typical rock vug - agatized - same as the smaller ones in previous pictures that I howled about.

      I can't find any structure that would be the size of a 10 story building either. Just don't see it.
      Yep, sorry about that, l took me hours to put this together! Arrr, no, nothing frozen, just the software pixalating.

      Hmmm, l will lean towards it being an entrance, only because of habitation evidence brought forward somewhere else.

      And the v shaped impressions are just the Curiosity rover wheel tracks!


      Ok, go to the site l mentioned before, then click on Sol 198 (281 img) l got the bulk of my images from there. And Sol 194 shows most of the Jade creek images.

      Maybe it's my eyes, but to me once a pic is blurred - I can't tell what's going on. At all. You are talking about animals and all I see is pixilated stuff. I don't see even one of these trees your talking about. I'm not saying they aren't there - I just need a better picture to be able to see what I'm looking at.


      Ok, this is the best l can do, first image show something growing out of the ground, with a white flower or more likely white frons, growing out of the top.

      Second image is a clam closed, third a hamster, forth is a crab and the fifth is the lizard or dinosaur. First arrow on the left shows its tail, then body then head. The shadows are showing that this is separate from the rock behind it.




      Bottom left shows it or the top of it being blown in the wind, and the right bottom shows it growing on a rock, and the top one, shows it growing down the side of a rockface. Whatever this stuff is, it is growing over the rock face?



      Ok, the stem and bottom sphere, is reasonably obvious, the top sphere and stem less obvious. Because of the mountain backdrop, l am assuming that the top sphere is part of the lower one. The first image l posted on this thread, with the mountains, etc was half a km to a k, away, so this structure should be roughly half a k, or more away. Which means it is big!

      This area is closer to the equator than anywhere else, but not on it.


      Not sure where the idea of people up there is "leaked" from. Does that mean earthlings or does that mean martians or what and who said that?
      I heard from text associated with a video, that there are up to 1 million people like us, on Mars!

      In one of those pics, the blow up on the right side of the pic definitely looks like a road. I can't see where it goes to, but it's very clear for a ways. It bothers me that it looks so maintained, yet nothing around it looks like there is anything near a pathway for it to connect to - and if there is an old road that's covered, why would just that small section be maintained?


      Actually l didn't see the other side either initially, but after a closer look it is there. And there is a small bridge over another part of the creek, after the rocky bridge!

      And if you look at the third arrow from the left, near the bright rock, the path branches off, and just above the second arrow from the left there is another path or road! :p

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    Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, but the head actually looks more like a rodent.
    I'm no expert, but I definitely don't see anything that resembles a rock in that image. How big do you reckon that thing is?
    I don't know what to make of all this, but great work, tagiscom.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, but the head actually looks more like a rodent.
      I'm no expert, but I definitely don't see anything that resembles a rock in that image. How big do you reckon that thing is?
      I don't know what to make of all this, but great work, tagiscom.
      Thanks, Bravo, yeah, give yourself some time, it is quite a big bite to chew on!

      I am into this sort of thing, and l am still getting over it!


      Hmmm, might be right about the dinosaur, but l thought that with the dark colouration on the face it was more lizard like. But since it is standing up, it seems to be a cross between a lizard and a dinosaur.

      Always suspected that other planets may have dinosaurs on it, and we seem to have them in our back yard! :p



      Its also interesting to note that it is lying on another one of those things l found earlier, with the holes in it, but this one has legs, but as far as l can tell no holes!

      FileIA16068 - Mars Curiosity Rover - Aeolis Mons - 20120817.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      According to this site, probably half a km! So this thing could be as big as a man!

      And that means that based in this site, my sphere tower, is probably a good km or two, which means it is skyscraper height!

      Something to think about? :rolleyes:

      Shane

      PS at least they got the sky colour right, in the last link above, (about time)!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hamster. LOL - That's not a hamster. It's a brush mouse. Cute.

        Okay anyhow - now we're getting somewhere. I could actually see the stuff this time.

        Now - bottom pic left arrow of the road? That square rock behind it? I don't think that's a rock. It's extremely different from the other rock in the region and too geometric to be natural there. Also - up the pic from there a ways, there's some more rock that is too different, a little geometric - long and flat - but there's a road that leads to it as well. Those look "man" made - and with roads in the area I would say it's possible.
        Yep, my Martian fauna is a little rusty, LOL. Yep, possible, and l wasn't going to mention this, but since we are on the subject of roads, etc, l did find something that might be using those roads!

        I couldn't figure out whether it was a rock or truck, but if there are roads, then it's possible...



        So, the aqua arrow is going to the truck, and the red arrow shows it enlarged. I suspect that the front part is the cabin. Another interesting thing is if this is a truck, delivering supplies or exterminating brush possums, LOL, if you compare the size of the truck to the dinosaurs, (yellow arrow) the one shown before could be T-Rex size when standing up!

        Sounds like the Beagle probe may have landed on one of these things and it took off, or in a lake, or river.

        Yep, if Curiosity is in the wrong place, and one of these things comes over the hill, Curiosity could be totaled!

        2.5 billion down the drain!!! Sigh :rolleyes:

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          It doesn't look like a truck. It looks like a sports car - with a bald guy driving. Figures - the little dudes are into status quos. I wonder if he KNOWS there's dinosaurs waiting up ahead. Would like to get a time lapse on that story

          That valley in the background has got to be water.
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          Those rocks have a lot of cavaties in them. Something like that on earth likes living in rock cavities. I would imagine that when I go pick up those agates I should probably be real careful around those cavities. Doesn't look like there's a lot of vegies to eat so they're probably carnivorous. lol.
          Hmmm, yep, the blob creature, (Jade creek pic) was eating one of these white leaves, so l suspect there could be some kind of fruit on them. Or that is the main food source?

          Shane - it's a kewl interest, hobby. I'm glad you're throwing these pics up here for discussion. I'd think that it's not giong to be something that loses its excitement any time soon.
          Yep, if a UFO lands in Washington, then everyone will ignore this thread, apart from the Lawyers, LOL.

          And be making a bee-line to the nearest spaceship, to check it out!

          Probably be a 10 or 20 year waiting list, though! Imaging doing a documentary about all this, start off showing one of these weird palm trees, then make their way past the crabs, etc, to the dinosaurs!

          Probably get a good 3 to 4 billion viewers for that one! Mars Documentary - part one, plant life!

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            It doesn't look like a truck. It looks like a sports car - with a bald guy driving. Figures - the little dudes are into status quos. I wonder if he KNOWS there's dinosaurs waiting up ahead. Would like to get a time lapse on that story

            That valley in the background has got to be water.


            Yep!!!! Looks like a river, and there seems to be a bridge going across it, (pink arrow). It's also interesting to note that the water levels have gotten much higher, at some point, l suspected that from the exposed clams, etc.

            Good catch Sal, l missed that one, no, doubt, there are plenty more gems?

            Clearly if there are rivers, then there would be dams! Hmmm, l wonder how much land is going for up there at the moment???? :rolleyes:



            Well, couldn't buy land without getting a house as well? Although this seems to be more of a restaurant, lookout tower? You can see a blue glass lookout in the bottom of the sculpture up top, and apparently steps going up to it!

            I suspect that the part on the left is more of a restaurant! Not bad, go for a bite and watch the dinosaurs outside, (the ones l found before a probably 10 metres away!

            And take a look at the top right hand structure, that looks like twisted silver pipes? And the rooftop viewing platform!

            Dinosaur burgers!

            Shane

            Thank goodness, there are no Maccers signs!!!! :rolleyes:
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              Hmmm, used spaceship, one owner!

              Right hand image seems to show a tower, Maybe Mars has it's own mobile network?



              This is seriously weird, but not unexpected, initially l thought that it was a waterfall, but not much water. So at this point it is either a volcano, or power generator.

              The large silver structure with a window and copper type design in the middle, probably supports power generation.

              But whatever it is it is pushing out what seems like white smoke, and this smoke is going a fair way up!

              The more l study these images the more windows l see on rocks!

              Could be a metropolitan area? It also seems likely that NASA knows about all this, and has carefully mapped out Curiosity's path, so it doesn't run into a house, or river, etc!

              Shane

              Odd's on it's humans, aliens wouldn't do something tacky like putting a silver dinosaur's head on a restaurant's roof, or make the whole building look like one, (previous set of images)?
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    Hamster. LOL - That's not a hamster. It's a brush mouse. Cute.

    Okay anyhow - now we're getting somewhere. I could actually see the stuff this time.

    Now - bottom pic left arrow of the road? That square rock behind it? I don't think that's a rock. It's extremely different from the other rock in the region and too geometric to be natural there. Also - up the pic from there a ways, there's some more rock that is too different, a little geometric - long and flat - but there's a road that leads to it as well. Those look "man" made - and with roads in the area I would say it's possible.
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    Those rocks have a lot of cavaties in them. Something like that on earth likes living in rock cavities. I would imagine that when I go pick up those agates I should probably be real careful around those cavities. Doesn't look like there's a lot of vegies to eat so they're probably carnivorous. lol.

    Shane - it's a kewl interest, hobby. I'm glad you're throwing these pics up here for discussion. I'd think that it's not giong to be something that loses its excitement any time soon.
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    Looks like all the water here is dried up - maybe just subverted to other places?

    Okay - on the first pic in post 128 - toward the top of the pic center - near the bottom of the Mt in the background there is a black dot. I blew that up a tad but can't get in close enough to see it. It's not natural. It's cylindrical. Can you get a shot from the rover that closes in on that a little bit?

    Bottom pic in post #127 -- I blew that up. That isn't looking natural at all. Look at the row of spheres in the "wall" right next to the "blue door" that runs all the way to over the door (which also contains a sphere). There's also a huge half sphere above it a ways, that has something that looks like a round flat object sitting on it. That might one just be an illusion, wish you could get a clearer pic. The first one I mentioned in the pic is no illusion though - that is NOT a natural formation.

    I don't see any smoke emitting from anywhere. Actually, to me it looks like we're looking at ruins. Can't tell that of course, without being there or without closer and clearer pics, but this looks like an area that used to have a LOT of water, but for some reason it's dried up. Not much different than ruins in some of our desert areas out here in the Western states. Might be someone here and there, but no dense population, and they would have to have structures that function as pumps for water since there isn't any there right now.........but then, too, that could be a seasonal thing. If there is a wet season and a dry season, this area might look very different 6 months down the road.

    There is a possibility that many of those formations that look like man made cylinders are actually a natural crystal formation. Crystals can get pretty huge on earth, too, and are geometrically perfect enough they'd look man-made in pics like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      bottom pic in post #127 -- I blew that up. That isn't looking natural at all. Look at the row of spheres in the "wall" right next to the "blue door" that runs all the way to over the door (which also contains a sphere). There's also a huge half sphere above it a ways, that has something that looks like a round flat object sitting on it. That might one just be an illusion, wish you could get a clearer pic. The first one I mentioned in the pic is no illusion though - that is NOT a natural formation.
      This is the best l can do!



      This building seems to curve around and link up with the larger structure that looks like a dinosaur!

      There is also this viewing place right near the action!



      Ok, the first image shows the viewing area or glass, the interesting thing about this is you can see lighter areas, like there are windows on both sides, and more interesting l have noticed some darker areas. The one standing in the middle of the window, (first arrow, left) is the most interesting!

      It seems more and more likely that there are humans on Mars, and this is some kind of nature theme park!

      Ok, l tried to find your dark dot, and found that the structure on the left is also emitting smoke, (you can see it more clearly in the enhances shot). But what is more interesting is the structure in the middle! The enhanced shot shows that it has structure and is a tower of some kind.

      Considering this structure is a good 1.5 to 2 kms away it is at least 20 to 30 storeys high, possibly more.

      Looks like a viewing tower, but it might be industrial?

      Might be someone here and there, but no dense population, and they would have to have structures that function as pumps for water since there isn't any there right now.........but then, too, that could be a seasonal thing. If there is a wet season and a dry season, this area might look very different 6 months down the road.

      There is a possibility that many of those formations that look like man made cylinders are actually a natural crystal formation. Crystals can get pretty huge on earth, too, and are geometrically perfect enough they'd look man-made in pics like this.
      Hmmm, there is still water in that river, but as you were saying and from what l have seen, it seems to be in a dry season! NASA wouldn't risk landing this when it was wetter?

      But either way you should name the river.

      Any ideas??? :rolleyes:

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        Ok, first image shows what looks like a road in the distance! And this road is going to a structure of some kind?



        I have also found a road going to the main building! You can see the occasional car, (red arrow) and larger vehicle. The arrow on the left also shows a car that left some dust behind and is driving up to the carpark, (that explains what the large rectangular structure is. If you go back to previous larger images, you can also see the occasional car up there! Cool! There is also a road going to the restaurant as well!



        The main road continues, and also branches off to go to other structures!



        Ok, first large image shows an entrance and a cute little guy in a spacesuit!

        Second image shows this strange thing on a bridge? Whatever it is it is partially transparent. You can see the pattern going around the view screen.

        The first arrow shows, a robotic screen of some kind, the third arrow shows some robotic things, and the second one is the coolest.

        It seems to be showing an alien looking back at us, since the background isn't dark, it could be a two way giant view screen!

        May be some kind of communication area? But either way it shows that it is likely that aliens, are on Mars, probably along with Humans.

        They could have grabbed some of us over thousands of years! Along with the occasional brush possum, crabs and rabbits, (big mistake)! :rolleyes:



        It also seems like there is a sign, near this structure, l can only make out a number 4 or triangle?

        Could either be saying that the road goes up a steep hill, which is accurate, or there is roof top parking here as well, and it is saying "caution end of roof top parking"? Lettering is underneath as well, but unfortunately it is too hard to see!

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    Well it looks like they aren't telling us a LOT about that planet. Of course, they did put up enough shots of it that people like you who are curious enough to really go through the pics can at least get a drift of what's going on there. Too bad they won't post anything we can get clearer pics of.

    I didn't see there was still water in that river. Guess we can just call it the Lost river. I'll look at this stuff again tomorrow, I 'm beat and it's almost 4 am.
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      Well it looks like they aren't telling us a LOT about that planet. Of course, they did put up enough shots of it that people like you who are curious enough to really go through the pics can at least get a drift of what's going on there. Too bad they won't post anything we can get clearer pics of.

      I didn't see there was still water in that river. Guess we can just call it the Lost river. I'll look at this stuff again tomorrow, I 'm beat and it's almost 4 am.
      Yep, but l wouldn't thank NASA, just yet!

      When they put up the landing of Curiosity, initially they showed a live colour video of the descent, (which was in the other room) l put something up about that in the "Mars sky colour, etc" previous threads. And when l was watching the video in the other room l found that it seemed to stall at that part, like someone was blocking it out!

      Then thankfully after l got some shots, it was gone. So it seems that the military in NASA of some people in key positions are calling the shots, and odds on wouldn't allow anything to get through, but thankfully there are some scientists in NASA that can see what is being hidden from the general public, and are indirectly giving away info,. Well at least until, it is found out!

      Hopefully that won't happen anytime soon, and some more juicy pic, will show, but if not, l will never look at Mars the same way again!

      Yep, know what you mean by late, its 3am here, and l need to hit the sack soon, but before that, here are some more....:p



      First blownup image is some more water, l think that it is blatantly obvious that Mars has water on its, surface!

      Next image l don't have a clue, best guess it is a drawbridge?

      Ok, next image is this giant structure, which is over a road. Radar dish, solar collector, or just a building of some kind, (most of these image were on the horizon, or a good k or 2 away so they are pretty big!

      The last one seems to be a stadium of some kind, and yep there is a giant helmet, on top of another building, or buildings. These aliens certainly love dramatics. :rolleyes:

      Best guess the helmet is part of a sporting event, since the object on top seems to signify the main thing.

      Also interesting to note that all structures are inclosed! It seems that the domestic aliens can't breath the atmosphere, but the animal life there can! It could also be because Mars has dust storms that can be planet wide and last for months. So everything is enclosed.

      From the first images l put up possibly showing humans on Mars, there faces or body's weart white with a black visor, so it seems we could breath the atmosphere there, but the alien's need to suit up!

      Maybe we evolved there as well, or were brought over there so long ago, that we can breath the atmosphere and the alien part showed up later on?

      Certainly fascinating!

      Explains why the millionaire wants the first humans to stay there, he has probably unofficially spoken to someone at NASA, and knows the truth. Run out of food, go grab a burger!

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    I can't see much in your blow ups. They are too blurred. I have seen those "black dots" in a few of the pics - those are easy to point out as non-natural formations. I can't tell water from mineral in a blur. Green or blue, doesn't necessarily mean water. That one agate that I blew up had both blue and green mineral, but it was obviously mineral. As far as size scale, I still can't tell from these pics. Same with crevices in rock A lot of those appear natural, but there are a lot of things that have too much geometric going on to be anything but crafted. A lot of spheres everywhere. I wonder what those are for. I've seen a few spheres that could arguably be natural - but a few that there's just no element we know of that would form naturally like that. Same with a few of the more cubic formations. Minerals do cube - mostly metallic ones - they also form pyramids. Look at some photos of pyrite sometime. What got me was the first tube I saw with an obvious lid, wasn't even something that could be written off as a natural form - and the roads. I scan google satellite and earth all the time before I go on 4 wheel paths.

    I know a road when I see one. I can tell a lot about a road just from a bird's eye view - and I see a LOT of roads. I've only seen a few that were well developed (equivalent to our grated gravel roads) and the best one I have seen so far led down to what looked like a pool of water. You want to look at those real close on google earth or satellite before trying to drive down them so you don't hit any washouts or get somewhere that you can't go on, but can't turn around. Been there and done that several times. NOT even starting to be pleasant. What grabs me about some of the roads is that they branch off to areas that end in geometric shapes or huge caverns in the rock. I'm thinking about their weather up there and thinking that putting homes in caverns would probably be a really good idea. With lidded pipes leading up for air or smoke release, etc. That's where I've seen pipes is above caverns - and in the area of geometric shapes. Just too much of that going on near obvious roadways for it to be coincidental. I think I'll go browse your link at NASA again.
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    Here's one for ya, Shane. Ever seen a NATURAL beam like this? It's on the right hand side - no more description necessary, it's not hard to find. Also looks like one of those black dots is in the air (left). IT might be on land but it's just too hazy to see the land. There are two (above and left and right of the beam) that are definitely in the air.
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    Okay - this is a very close up pic.........and everything is clear except for one item....
    Is the left side shadow or stem?- that thing is hairy or spiky. Plant or animal - or just part of the rover? I don't see this in the other pics. It almost looks like it's moving. That would be the only reason I can think of that it would be the only blurry item in the pic.

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    I don't know what (on earth) this is? Doesn't look like a rock or pixelation to me.
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      I don't know what (on earth) this is? Doesn't look like a rock or pixelation to me.
      Doesn't look like any sort of mineral formation. I'm starting to wonder why some of these pics are so blurred. We've already seen some very clear shots and know they can take them.
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Doesn't look like any sort of mineral formation. I'm starting to wonder why some of these pics are so blurred. We've already seen some very clear shots and know they can take them.
        Well, that certainly raises a question or two, doesn't it?

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          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          Well, that certainly raises a question or two, doesn't it?

          Let me qualify this first for people who might otherwise think I've gone a tad nuts.

          This is not what I think it IS -- It's just what it looks like.

          It looks like some dude with a long helmet or skull driving a motorcycle type vehicle.
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            Yep, it's blurry because it was on the horizon, or a couple of k's away! The original image was a thumbnail, so you would need a magnifying glass to see anything.

            So, these are large structures, and this white helmet motif is repeated along this area, l just put in the best ones.

            Probably having a motorbike, or hoverbike finals???

            Yeah, that b/w image showing the powerful lazer is pretty cool, maybe l should scour the thumbnails as well? :rolleyes:



            Arr, no that gray bar is part of the Rover, you will occasionally get the rover in some of the shots.

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    2nd pic - I was thinking that was probably right. Freaky as heck if it weren't though. LOL.

    Top pic -- Love that architecture. I bet it looks like a hobbit house on the inside, but has some startling technology inside. It looks extremely comfortable.

    All that Centigrade, anyone know in Fahrenheit how hot and cold that planet gets?
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    Okay - those orbs in the wall I thought didn't look remotely natural? Seems to be a common formation on Mars (natural). Not sure if it's a percolated form of mudstone or if it's fossiliferous. There's seams of white rock of some sort running through some of this rock - in some places it takes a round formation as well. In the rock - not sure if it's a mineral inclusion of some sort that's been coated with the mudstone or what. I'm wondering if some of the pics aren't from closer up than we realize. This one is close and personal.
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      2nd pic - I was thinking that was probably right. Freaky as heck if it weren't though. LOL.

      Top pic -- Love that architecture. I bet it looks like a hobbit house on the inside, but has some startling technology inside. It looks extremely comfortable.

      All that Centigrade, anyone know in Fahrenheit how hot and cold that planet gets?
      Yep, using the blue window visible more or less below the helmet structure, the building on the left would be at least 10 storeys high.

      Which means the stadium is 15, 20 storeys high. Imagine, a stadium of noisy aliens, and family's, watching something with dinosaurs or hoverbikes, etc. Something straight out of Star Wars!


      Yep, go to the previous link showing Mars temp, it has Fahrenheit as well!

      The balls are a direct result of water interacting with mineral deposits, or something like that! NASA's other two previous rovers found them as well! Or one, did, l am too lazy to check that out! :rolleyes:

      I am having too much fun with these images, and here is another!



      Ok, first image shows a house with a antenna on top! It seems like these creatures also have television. Probably HD holographic, or some super advanced cool setup!

      Second image has steps, and what looks like an humanoid alien on top!

      The third is another spaceship, at least this one looks like it is in better condition. The last one l found looked like someone left it to rust away!



      Ok, humanoid female, since she is wearing a black dress with white. She seems by her hands, is praying or something else, but the long neck and bald head is the freaky part, (top arrow). I know it is blurry, but some detail can be made out. Considering she has a long neck and isn't wearing a spacesuit, the aliens may have created an alien, human hybrid, so as to, get around the wearing a spacesuit to step outside.

      Good idea, but it raises some ethical concerns! But, their planet, so their rules!

      Wrapped that l got a closeup of one, and half a dozen more pic to go!!! :rolleyes:

      At least if they land in Washington tomorrow, people reading this thread won't be shocked, or not as shocked as most!

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        Ok, first image shows another big structure, this one has a sphinx type head! And this also has a road and maybe a ship parked out front!

        The large structure on the left, looks like it was built from scratch or is silver all over! Reminds me of one of the Crab or spider type things in the "War of the Worlds" soundtrack cover! Considering this thing is above ground and is massive, (going by the dark blue windows in the other spinx structure) this thing is probably 30+ storeys high.

        Best guess this is a starship! Cool! :p

        Then we have this one???? :confused:

        Then last of all is, it seems that Curiosity may have driven over this wet creek, and either pushed the large bolder along, or just driven over it. Either way there seems to be track marks, in this area.

        Another interesting thing about the tv idea, is ground based dishes on Earth should be able to pick up on it!

        Unless it is being blocked?

        No doubt our oceans, probably fascinate them!

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    Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.

    Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
    That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.

    This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.

      Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
      That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.

      This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.
      Agreed. The ones that really made my jaw drop were these two:





      and of course the ones showing water. A lot of the others really are a stretch of the imagination.
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    I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
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      Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.
      Ok, second image large rock, spinx type head, (roughly speaking).

      Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
      That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.
      No, the arrows show that something drove through this area and pushed the rock along! So l am pointing out the suttle marks, left in the wet sand. Curiosity would have to drive over this sort of area sooner or later, but of course we don't see or hear anything!


      This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.


      True it could be a post with old rags on it? The steps do seem pretty high! So l will leave this up in the air, unless l find a better image of one?

      I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
      Unfortunately NASA has all the best stuff in their database, so.....l won't say anymore! :rolleyes:


      Best we can do is wait a year or two for the millionaire to send a rover there, if he gets the funding, and show us all this stuff in HD!

      But from what l have heard, Julia Estrange, has something along these lines, and is collating it all together into a Legally binding folder, so they can tell the world, and drag NASA through the courts.


      The other interesting thing is why did NASA send Curiosity to a hot spot like this, when it could have just as easily sent it to a particularly sparsely populated area, like the previous rovers went to???? :confused:

      It's like they want to announce that Mars has life, etc, but keep holding back?


      Maybe it is the usual keep power, crap, for as long as possible and keep it buried for as long as possible?

      But if that is true, why would they land it there???


      It's like landing a rover in the middle of Vegas, and try to keep it hidden, instead of landing it in the desert, and just blurr out or colour out Vegas lights at dust?


      I suspect that what l have uncovered, is setting the stage for something big!

      Should be interesting times for us, in the coming years!

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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
      I wonder how some op these photos would look as vectors. I'm going to play around with Illustrator and see what they look like. Probably look a little cartoonish, but shapes and outlines might be a bit sharper.
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        Um.......second image -- that rock on the left? It isn't a rock. Look at it again. I still don't see any sphinx type anything though. The rock on the right is just a rock -- and all that apartment complex looking stuff on the right is BEHIND it...including that thing that looks like a snake head on the right end of it.
        Yeah, l know the silver thing on the left looks more artificial than a rock! And the distance makes it a big silver thing.

        Hmmm, yep, you have a point, l didn't realize it was seperate, to the big rock on the right. Yep, snake head is probably a more accurate description! :rolleyes:

        Second - with all the arrows. Sorry, still looks like natural erosion that you would see in any desert rocky area. I could take you places out here that have the same roadish look. I just don't see it in that one -- I do however see between all those arrows patches of yellow that almost look like sunshine hitting the ground. There's also some places out here that have a goldish yellow brush that shines like that when the sun hits it. Something to think about is what season is this? Dry season. All those little blurry patches in that otherwise clear pic might be bright green 6 months down the line.
        Drat!!! Yep, Mars is going through it's winter at present, or the dry season for a good part of the planet, (a good part of it's water is frozen at the icecaps). So as you are saying it could green up when summer comes! But they only need to put the copper filter over their images and it tends to hide most of the green stuff!


        Nasa has given a few pics with enough evidence that those who are interested in the issue will know = at least will know that there's life there. Other people who aren't interested, don't really even need to know. Screw em. If they were to actually announce things with clear photos right now there'd be a war with religious leaders coming down on us. I don't think they are ready to let us out of the position as the one and only in the universe yet.
        LOL, don't hold back tell us what you really think!!!! :rolleyes:


        Yep, couldn't agree more, people tend to fall into "please everyone", "know it all", people that take action, and screw the outcome, and the ones that want to "feel safe"!

        I bought up this info, on another forum and the "l want to feel safe" camp, got angry at me for putting the "Mars has a blue sky, and NASA is b...." issue?

        It seems that some people don't want to know, or enjoy being lied to? I don't understand that crowd?

        Then you have the crowd that will refuse to see obvious evidence, and will dismiss it anyway they can! Can't figure that group out either, although l suspect that fear plays a large part?


        Fortunately or unfortunately, the day is coming when the HD photos will be shown, and NASA either through outside events, (UFO landing, other people, releasing hard evidence) or by themselves will spill the beans.


        When that day comes, probably soon, then the groups above who have turned avoiding the truth, into an art form, will be clobbered the most. Or will probably be the ones who will have mass heart attacks, or panic attacks, of be wracked with fear that a mass invasion is eminent, (too many sci-fi movies) or some equally unfounded theory!


        I would launch a probe to Mars in a second if l had the cash, but the Moon has it's own share of secrets, and is much easier to reach.

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    Um.......second image -- that rock on the left? It isn't a rock. Look at it again. I still don't see any sphinx type anything though. The rock on the right is just a rock -- and all that apartment complex looking stuff on the right is BEHIND it...including that thing that looks like a snake head on the right end of it.

    Second - with all the arrows. Sorry, still looks like natural erosion that you would see in any desert rocky area. I could take you places out here that have the same roadish look. I just don't see it in that one -- I do however see between all those arrows patches of yellow that almost look like sunshine hitting the ground. There's also some places out here that have a goldish yellow brush that shines like that when the sun hits it. Something to think about is what season is this? Dry season. All those little blurry patches in that otherwise clear pic might be bright green 6 months down the line.

    Yeah that bottom pic is just too far blurred out to see anything at all other than some color blobs. You can think color blobs into almost anything, it doesn't need to really be anything at all.

    Nasa has given a few pics with enough evidence that those who are interested in the issue will know = at least will know that there's life there. Other people who aren't interested, don't really even need to know. Screw em. If they were to actually announce things with clear photos right now there'd be a war with religious leaders coming down on us. I don't think they are ready to let us out of the position as the one and only in the universe yet.
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    Shane - there's enough UFO info that has been de-classified now to pretty much prove that UFOs not only exist, but are around sometimes. Yet there are still people who can't get their heads around that one. IF they knew that they were coming from so close by, they'd melt down for sure. If anyone were to ever prove that humans were brought from space, mass suicide would be the result right now.

    Most people are not set up or educated correctly to have everything they thought they knew destroyed and relearn a new reality.

    As far as the filter on the lense? Maybe but I doubt it. I was able to see the green and blue of that chalcedony just fine. During dry seasons grass is brownish to yellow, though - and that's what I think I am seeing in the photo. The sand is clear and the rocks are clear but the yellow areas are fairly fuzzy.

    I swear some of these photos could have been taken right in the Western US states. There's a few differences, but there's a hell of a lot of sameness, too. I'm not sure that I agree that the peoplish beings there can't breath that atmosphere, either. It looks like there might be more sameness there than we are supposed to realize - water means oxygen - water also means those clouds might not be any so much different than ours. I'm not a chemist so I couldn't tell you what all elements could result in a blue sky. With all that sand, if there's any wind, it's not hard to imagine why some pics would make the planet look like it's got a red sky.

    What bothers me is that if there are intelligent beings up there (which looks like is most likely the case), our gov and corporations are going to get to them before normal people and we might end up with inter-planetary enemies. Our leaders are trying to take war into space and that is just soooo not a smart move if there are intelligent beings that close that have the ability to get here. Makes me wonder that if they defund NASA at this point - if they weren't instructed to do so by a people they couldn't say no to.
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      Shane - there's enough UFO info that has been de-classified now to pretty much prove that UFOs not only exist, but are around sometimes. Yet there are still people who can't get their heads around that one. IF they knew that they were coming from so close by, they'd melt down for sure. If anyone were to ever prove that humans were brought from space, mass suicide would be the result right now.

      Most people are not set up or educated correctly to have everything they thought they knew destroyed and relearn a new reality.
      Yep, scary thought, but eventhough that seemed to be true in the 50's, now with crop circles, and increasing UFO sightings, people are sensitized into not going off the rails, when the announcement comes.

      But, regardless, mass suicides, and riots will probably be widespread! May even got a few hundred thousand tramping into the desert and demand that Area 51 be open to the public!

      As far as the filter on the lense? Maybe but I doubt it. I was able to see the green and blue of that chalcedony just fine. During dry seasons grass is brownish to yellow, though - and that's what I think I am seeing in the photo. The sand is clear and the rocks are clear but the yellow areas are fairly fuzzy.
      Well, l tend to colour correct most of my pictures before posting!

      The image l put up with the green algae in the foreground and blue sky in the background, (thread 1 or 2) clearly demonstrates this, before l corrected the colour, it was reddish, orange, and the green was barely visible, but after correcting, it stood out as clear as day!

      I swear some of these photos could have been taken right in the Western US states. There's a few differences, but there's a hell of a lot of sameness, too. I'm not sure that I agree that the peoplish beings there can't breath that atmosphere, either. It looks like there might be more sameness there than we are supposed to realize - water means oxygen - water also means those clouds might not be any so much different than ours. I'm not a chemist so I couldn't tell you what all elements could result in a blue sky. With all that sand, if there's any wind, it's not hard to imagine why some pics would make the planet look like it's got a red sky.
      Yep, some images do have a reddish sky. As for the clouds they seem to have high altitude wispy clouds! And possibly little to no rain, although snow has been detected at the ice caps!

      Since Mars has no oceans, (but if it has rivers, then lakes are probably present) no doubt, rain clouds would be less prevalent.


      What bothers me is that if there are intelligent beings up there (which looks like is most likely the case), our gov and corporations are going to get to them before normal people and we might end up with inter-planetary enemies. Our leaders are trying to take war into space and that is just soooo not a smart move if there are intelligent beings that close that have the ability to get here. Makes me wonder that if they defund NASA at this point - if they weren't instructed to do so by a people they couldn't say no to.
      World gov, probably have been talking to them since the 50's, well friendly nations at least!


      So us talking to them especially the military is a little like telling a 5 year old what to do. The 5 year old may demand this and that, mainly to gain power, and the enlightened elder who virtually knows how the universe ticks, tries to negotiate!

      But since the military can at least grasp, that we are a joke in regards to military might, they have to take a back seat!

      But as you were saying, long established institutions will get dragged through the mud, when the truth comes out!

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        Ok, another pic, and more interesting stuff! First off l found some more doors, the one on the left looks like, the one l found before with the pudgy guy in a spacesuit, although it is hard to make out whether this one is being used or not? The one on the right is more heavy duty, steel frame, and the occupants may have upgraded the door!

        Good idea if you can't breath the outside air!


        Then we have these massive structures, which are probably a good 5 or more k,s away.

        The first is silver and seems to be built into the hill or mountain!

        The second one is the most interesting. a massive silver structure, that has supports going up the hill to a larger structure on top!

        Hard to say what this is, but it has an antenna on top, and if this is a mountain, then power generation or water extraction and storage are two likely ones.

        If this is a mountain, which it could most likely be, then aliens are building things on a scale that would boggle our imaginations!


        It seems that a good billion or two of us would want to go there, when the announcement comes!

        Alien invasion, but in a good way! :rolleyes:

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          Hmmm, first image shows two cars and trucks on the road, and some weird object off the side, (left arrow). Best guess is that this is a set of lights, so if a dust storm happens they can still get around!

          Interesting thing about the truck like thing is the square pattern on the back, although l am beginning to think that it is a house.


          Last image shows what l thought was a car, but l am beginning to have my doubts, might just be another house on Mars! Oh, hum! :p

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    Some of the caverns under rocks are natural, Shane - when you get large outcrops or shelfy rock, it usually is cavernous. Those would be likely housing to wildlife. There are also a lot of round vugs in the rock that are actually natural - as are a lot of the round bubble looking stuff. It looks artificial, but is actually just natural phenomenon.

    That said - that middle pic - the arrow on the left - definitely metal and not natural (I hesitate to say man-made because it's hard to say what the local beings are called, lol. The middle arrow, I see nothing of unnatural interest -- the right arrow - that is too geometric to be natural - it looks just like an earth apartment building. Too square, too much difference from the local rock - the interior squares are too well aligned. Even a cubic mineral would be unlikely to be that perfect in the rough.

    Now that brings in a very big problem though in size -- it would make whatever that wheel is on the left (and that's what it looks like) absolutely gargantuan in size compared to the structure on the right. It doesn't make any sense to me unless three are either huge visitors that leave trash and very tiny people there. Either that or I have the sizes very messed up in my head and that right hand structure is actually just a cubic mineral on the side of a rock formation that is tens of times smaller than I thought it was.
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      That said - that middle pic - the arrow on the left - definitely metal and not natural (I hesitate to say man-made because it's hard to say what the local beings are called, lol. The middle arrow, I see nothing of unnatural interest -- the right arrow - that is too geometric to be natural - it looks just like an earth apartment building. Too square, too much difference from the local rock - the interior squares are too well aligned. Even a cubic mineral would be unlikely to be that perfect in the rough.
      Yep, when l first saw this it looks like a jet engine, but since it was beside the road, l went off track. Whatever this thing is it has supports.

      Now that brings in a very big problem though in size -- it would make whatever that wheel is on the left (and that's what it looks like) absolutely gargantuan in size compared to the structure on the right. It doesn't make any sense to me unless three are either huge visitors that leave trash and very tiny people there. Either that or I have the sizes very messed up in my head and that right hand structure is actually just a cubic mineral on the side of a rock formation that is tens of times smaller than I thought it was.
      Well, considering the underground dwellings around this thing, and the hotel, close by, l am seriously starting to think that this is an air intake devise, or a giant fan, filtering out the nasty stuff, so the martians can get some fresh air!

      It also explains why there seems to be some dust being brown out of the back of this thing, (not easy to see but there appears to be some disturbance out the back). Yep, when you live in a place where dust storms can last for up to a year, when it makes sense to have a high powered air filter!

      Other thing is there are no power lines anywhere, so aliens probably generate their own power on site. A free energy device, or advanced fission, with their tech, it could be a lot of things!

      We have one or two free energy systems that work, but we also have money and stupidity getting in the way!

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    I don't see any emissions, but then that pic is pixilated pretty bad. That doesn't look like just a support, it looks like a pipe - and that second little arrow to that little metal thing is pretty strange. I wonder if it's part of the same system. As far as the sandstorms - I imagine they are built to withstand them. Their air intake organs would be much different from ours - possibly even more like insects than human and their eyes probably reptilian with a fiber over them they can open and close. It doesn't appear they are underground all the time.
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      I don't see any emissions, but then that pic is pixilated pretty bad. That doesn't look like just a support, it looks like a pipe - and that second little arrow to that little metal thing is pretty strange. I wonder if it's part of the same system. As far as the sandstorms - I imagine they are built to withstand them. Their air intake organs would be much different from ours - possibly even more like insects than human and their eyes probably reptilian with a fiber over them they can open and close. It doesn't appear they are underground all the time.
      Arrr, no, just distortions, or sound waves, seem to be coming out the back?

      And the arrow on the right, is going to a window, the main thing l see when scouring these images is windows or blue colour.

      Yep, they do wear space suits, but l suspect that they get daily weather reports, (being caught in a dust storm that lasts for up to a year is pretty serious).

      Which of course raises the possibility that there are one or more weather satellites on Mars moons, or in orbit; something else we will never find out!

      Yeah, from the image l found they could be the aliens that were involved in Roswell, and other incidents!

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    Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

    Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

      Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.

      Looks like Total Recall was onto something.

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    Okay that upper rock that looks kinda like something is just rock, but that stuff underneath isn't, as far as I can tell from this pic. Sure wish you could get a better resolution on that one. There look to be 2 heads there - with a dog shaped muzzle and two very bulbous eyes. I know there's a lot of natural globular shapes but those things just don't look like rock - they look like faces - helmeted heads, whatever. Kinda cute. I wonder if you owned one if you'd have to observe leash laws with it if you brought it back.
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    W T F is this? A plant? An old relic?

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      Okay that upper rock that looks kinda like something is just rock, but that stuff underneath isn't, as far as I can tell from this pic. Sure wish you could get a better resolution on that one. There look to be 2 heads there - with a dog shaped muzzle and two very bulbous eyes. I know there's a lot of natural globular shapes but those things just don't look like rock - they look like faces - helmeted heads, whatever. Kinda cute. I wonder if you owned one if you'd have to observe leash laws with it if you brought it back.


      Yep, didn't notice the dog, but since they are on both sides of what looks like a round table, and both have their mouths open, l am beginning to think that these things are statues, or sculptures. The table also has a copper strip around the top, and a raised part out front, might be a control panel.

      If it has statues on both sides and is outside in the dust, etc, then it must have some communical purpose. A screen showing Mars weather patterns in real time, is the only thing l can think of, but l doubt it is for playing cards! :rolleyes:


      W T F is this? A plant? An old relic?


      Arrr, plant! Although red weed was in the back of my mind!!! :rolleyes:

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        Ok, initially l thought that this was a house, it may still be, but the fence, (middle arrow) is more interesting. The last arrow on the right could be a human standing up, and eventhough enhancement showed two legs, etc, l will leave this one as compelling, but no slam dunk!



        Ok, it seems that the lost river has some other ones, the arrows show the one on the left. And what looks like a waterfall, (forth arrow from the left) and the second last arrow on the right, shows yet another lost river spinoff!

        Its also interesting to note that the left hand river is greener than the other ones!

        The top arrow shows some dust or smoke in the distance!



        Last one is the coolest, it shows an animal of some kind, missed it initially! There could be a second one above it, also?

        It's eye reflecting in the Curiosity's camera is the giveaway!

        Maybe Mars has Walruses as well?

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    I can't see much in that pic at all. It's just too pixilated so when you blow it up it's so pixed out and blurry you could imagine anything, but not see anything with enough clarity to really know the difference. That bottom pic? No clue where you think there's an animal. I don't see anything even remotely suggestive of one.

    The greens in that pic on the left - most of it is just rock. There is a lighter yellowish/green color that runs in blurred patches that might be vegetation, though. If vegetation is green, it most likely resembles earth's enough to turn brown during the dry season unless it sits where there is water fairly close to the surface like in some spring areas in our own NW high desert areas.
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      Yep, it is not easy to see, the two white arrows show the tail, or purple tail, and the red arrows show the eye and some kind of mouth. Green arrows show the outline.

      Yep, may just be a rock, or an animal of some kind?

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    There's a lot going on in that picture. First off - I don't see any resemblance to an animal between those arrows. I do see stuff I want to know what it is, though - it doesn't look the least bit natural in several spots - like to the right of the top arrows and underneath the bottom arrows.

    It would help if I knew the size of what I'm looking at. I doubt very highly that we're going to be looking at any 4 and 5 meter long creatures in these pics.
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      Ok, more interesting stuff, first blownup image shows water coming out of some kind of pipes! Could just be some more white plants, but it looks like water!

      Second image shows what looks like a polar bear, if it is a rock, it has 4 legs, (shadow).

      Next image shows more water flowing down, or small waterfalls! Cool!!! :p

      Next one shows what looks like a martian airport, the silver one with two back thrusters, exhausts, etc, is green arrow marked.

      Then we have this weird structure?

      Another fine example of a martain house. The entrances of the left, and others, including a large oval window, and car, spaceship, etc on the far right, make this hard to dismiss as just being a rock!

      And the last one, no idea!

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    Is this lizard type creature the same as the guy in the pic you posted earlier, or is this another one?

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    Well that definitely looks like a little lizard. If it's the same shot as Shane has arrows up all over, it sure looks different without the blur, eh? It's cute. I'm sure that the animals, especially small ones would tend to be the same color as their environments, too - camouflage from predators. I'm kinda guessing if there is life, there has to be a predatory food chain, but maybe not. It's the only way stuff works here. Can't say if it's the same elsewhere.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Is this lizard type creature the same as the guy in the pic you posted earlier, or is this another one?
      Hmmm, hard to tell, the tail is the most interesting part! I am still trying to find the original image, for some reason l can't pin it down!


      I also saw another fascinating video briefly showing, what looked like rubber tank type tracks on Mars, (well the wind had wiped some of it off).

      This was taken from Curiosity, and definitely wasn't from Curiosity, (Curiosity has very distinctive v shaped marks).

      So it seems likely that the Russians have a rover on Mars in this area as well!

      Clearly this area has immense scientific or military importance!

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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Hmmm, hard to tell, the tail is the most interesting part! I am still trying to find the original image, for some reason l can't pin it down!


        I also saw another fascinating video briefly showing, what looked like rubber tank type tracks on Mars, (well the wind had wiped some of it off).

        This was taken from Curiosity, and definitely wasn't from Curiosity, (Curiosity has very distinctive v shaped marks).

        So it seems likely that the Russians have a rover on Mars in this area as well!

        Clearly this area has immense scientific or military importance!

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        This is the one you posted:



        I think it's a different one. It looks longer and the tail seems shorter
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          Arrrggg, no, l was referring to the one you found in the video!


          Ok, scoured through the Sol 193, images, and apart from the lizard, which is unfortunately, most likely a rock, l found some more cool stuff....



          Ok, first image is a rock, but it seems to have something growing on it!

          Next image is a rodent sniffing the air, looks like a field mouse!

          Next one is more obvious signs of water, and another brush tail possum.

          Next one is the lizard, which l believe to be a rock! Pity!!! :rolleyes:

          Next image is what looks like a humanoid figure dressed up in some camoflage! The white shoes and legs and tight material are the most compelling parts!


          Next image shows what looks like a lizard! But it is hard to tell?

          And the last image looks like a martian:p bottle! I initially thought that it was a plant, but the top was too much like a bottle!

          Martian pottery, cool!


          Then we have this road in the distance! The road going between two rocks, (in the middle) was the one that got my attention!



          Shane

          PS, the first image also has what looks exactly like a hamster looking directly at Curiosity's cameras. The face has two colors present! I won't enlarge it; see if you can spot the Martian hamster! LOL!


          And after studying the lizard, it appears that some alien turned their house into a lizard shape! You can tell from the window on the right, and the hollow section on the left, (looks like a road going into the structure!

          Not surprising after seeing structures that look like dinosaurs, etc!
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            Ok, the next one is a house with an alien face on top, these aliens certainly like to show off! :rolleyes:



            Second image shows a busy road, (there is also a silver structure on the horizon, could be a town, but too hard to know for sure).

            Second image shows some more, the truck on the right, (arrow) is the best one.

            And the last one is another vehicle putting dust into the air. Seems like they use a car with something touching the surface, instead of something that hovers.

            And unsealed roads! A very advanced culture with unsealed roads??? But l am sure that one of their capital city's, would fit the sci-fi interpretation of a futuristic
            image!

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    First image there is nothing growing on that rock - it's some of that chacedonly (agate). It appears there are numerous outcrops of that stuff - and I've noticed they are all in the region of water flow...........very normal, since agate is silicon. Incidentally - where there is silicon, fossils also agatize under the right conditions.

    That road? I'm not the first bit convinced it's actually a road. I wonder if there's any areal views that look straight down on this stuff from a close range? In an area like that one you can't tell if something is drift or road. A lot of ledge/drift looks like road until you are right on top of it. Some of the things that look like roads could well be seasonal water paths - others are just sand drift that piles up in the region of hills where the rock outcrops in kind of a ledge formation - much like creek or river banks, but on hillsides instead. Of course, it's possible that old roads are drifted over (don't forget the sand storms) and the outline shows here and there, but the main road plane has been covered.

    A lot of what I see in these pictures is not clear enough to actually even guess at. When rock formations blur, you can see all kinds of things that aren't really there. I don't like to do much guessing on blurry pictures because they are just too misleading. I'm also looking at size and scale and some things are just outlandish to even think about if you put size and scale into the mix. With water only being seasonal in some areas, large carbon life forms are pretty unlikely. If there are areas of vegetation - even grasses, larger life forms are more likely. I haven't seen any absolutely vegetated areas, though - although I did see one pic that looked like it had some grasses.

    I really dug the video that guy did - and wish I had the same skill at blowing pics up without getting blur and distortion. Then I could really get into taking a look at things in more depth. I just can't justify calling anything for sure in a blur. I do know that there's silicone though, because those rocks have it - lots of it. I don't even need to guess on that one. Blue, green, and white agate. Saw a few very orange streaks in a few pics, too - not sure if that's a jasper or signs of iron.
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      First image there is nothing growing on that rock - it's some of that chacedonly (agate). It appears there are numerous outcrops of that stuff - and I've noticed they are all in the region of water flow...........very normal, since agate is silicon. Incidentally - where there is silicon, fossils also agatize under the right conditions.

      That road? I'm not the first bit convinced it's actually a road. I wonder if there's any areal views that look straight down on this stuff from a close range? In an area like that one you can't tell if something is drift or road. A lot of ledge/drift looks like road until you are right on top of it. Some of the things that look like roads could well be seasonal water paths - others are just sand drift that piles up in the region of hills where the rock outcrops in kind of a ledge formation - much like creek or river banks, but on hillsides instead. Of course, it's possible that old roads are drifted over (don't forget the sand storms) and the outline shows here and there, but the main road plane has been covered.

      A lot of what I see in these pictures is not clear enough to actually even guess at. When rock formations blur, you can see all kinds of things that aren't really there. I don't like to do much guessing on blurry pictures because they are just too misleading. I'm also looking at size and scale and some things are just outlandish to even think about if you put size and scale into the mix. With water only being seasonal in some areas, large carbon life forms are pretty unlikely. If there are areas of vegetation - even grasses, larger life forms are more likely. I haven't seen any absolutely vegetated areas, though - although I did see one pic that looked like it had some grasses.

      I really dug the video that guy did - and wish I had the same skill at blowing pics up without getting blur and distortion. Then I could really get into taking a look at things in more depth. I just can't justify calling anything for sure in a blur. I do know that there's silicone though, because those rocks have it - lots of it. I don't even need to guess on that one. Blue, green, and white agate. Saw a few very orange streaks in a few pics, too - not sure if that's a jasper or signs of iron.
      Yep, blurry is annoying; and l am sure that there are some pic, of this area taken by Mars Reconnence Orbiter, and others, may show up the roads better?

      Since there is water or streams on Mars, and rivers, and probably lakes, then forests or shrubs are also likely! It seems that since this is a barren area, small mammals, are the dominant life!

      Imagine a rover landing in a forest or a more fertile region, NASA couldn't play hide and seek anymore!

      Also explains why eventhough Curiosity is nuclear powered, it also landed near the equator. Much easier to hide stuff in a particularly barren area.

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    Oh holy cow - post 179 - the 5th pic down (it's a smaller insert). You have your arrow pointed in the wrong place -- check out the big rock just under the arrow = now on the right side of that, look at the lizard on top of the rock below it. Good grief. LOL.

    I also looked again and the pic under it STILL looks like a lizard to me.

    I just saw this so had to get it down. I'm gonna go back and read your last post now.
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    Okay - those pics in post 180 look like some sort of grassy vegetation. It's dry season - I bet it turns something else (maybe green?) during the wetter seasons. Like I said - that terrain looks just like some of the terrain out here in the Western states. I wish we had agate like that though.

    I saw one chunk of something sitting in one of the riverbeds that looks just like petrified wood - not saying I think it is, just making a comparison ........um it's in post 179 and your arrow is sitting right on top of it. Looks like a round, doesn't it? Would like a nice close and personal pic of that. If trees could have grown there before, I'm sure they could be replanted under the right conditions. Not sure - what is the planet core made out of - is it a battery like Earth?

    Anyhow - that road that you are sure is a road, very well could be one. It really does look very much like one, but it's impossible to tell without a little bit of an areal view on it. Don't think it's likely we'll get one. Sometime this weekend if I have time I'll look back over some of the pics and see if I can find any really good areal shots.
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      Oh holy cow - post 179 - the 5th pic down (it's a smaller insert). You have your arrow pointed in the wrong place -- check out the big rock just under the arrow = now on the right side of that, look at the lizard on top of the rock below it. Good grief. LOL.

      I also looked again and the pic under it STILL looks like a lizard to me.

      I just saw this so had to get it down. I'm gonna go back and read your last post now.
      Phew, l have tried to find the lizard you mentioned, hopefully it is one of these?

      Or the large lizard on a rock above the jar?


      Ok, the top left hand arrow is pointing to what looks like a frog, if true it means that water is here most of the time



      Right hand arrow, wouldn't have a clue, looked interesting!

      Bottom image, just another rodent!!! :rolleyes:

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    This is the little guy I was talking about, Shane (when I said your arrow was pointing to the wrong thing):




    Some of those pics in your last post really just plain look like animals -- especially that little "mouse", which I disagree with. I think that one looks like a prairie dog.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Hmmmm, on the subject of dogs, l didn't want to bring this one up, but l will now. Dogs on Mars, seriously sounds like l have gone off the rails, but....

      PS here is a close up of your tree or rock??? And for the record l believe that there is a good change there are trees or small shrubs on Mars.



      The image you found looks like a dog or puppy, looking bored on a rock. The arrow is pointing at its head with long ears, nose, etc.

      And the image l showed of someone with a cloth over them before, did have this image that seriously looks like a dog of some kind. A dog or wolf, doesn't look like a cat!

      Then this image that l thought was a trick of the rocks or a Hamster, but on closer examination it looks like a cat! It seems to have whiskers, and also has a black collar and name label, (cream coloured label). Looks like the local inhabitants, have the same animals we have, or they introduced them to Earth, or snatched some of ours, etc.

      Whats next cows????

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    Yeah that's it. That shot looks like there's water running through right now. I'm not trusting that color as anything else in that area but chalcedony. That rock is chalcedony - but it looks like petrified wood - petrification sometimes agatizes wood - in fact agatized wood is absolutely coveted in gem quality. I can honestly say those blue veins and spots are gem quality rock - the green, too. I don't think there's plant growing out of rock in that region at all. I saw the rocks on a blow up and I would trust me on that one. I know those rocks. Those bubbles often are just geological formation. What I look for is a blurry look along the ground OFF of the rocks. Mosses are going to be rough to determine on a photo other than a close up. grasses, too but they would make for fuzzy blurred looking spots on the pic.

    Those other shots? Those are just too blurred to even bother posting. There's not one thing we can determine from something that out of focus that it amounts to shadows.
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      Yeah that's it. That shot looks like there's water running through right now. I'm not trusting that color as anything else in that area but chalcedony. That rock is chalcedony - but it looks like petrified wood - petrification sometimes agatizes wood - in fact agatized wood is absolutely coveted in gem quality. I can honestly say those blue veins and spots are gem quality rock - the green, too. I don't think there's plant growing out of rock in that region at all. I saw the rocks on a blow up and I would trust me on that one. I know those rocks. Those bubbles often are just geological formation. What I look for is a blurry look along the ground OFF of the rocks. Mosses are going to be rough to determine on a photo other than a close up. grasses, too but they would make for fuzzy blurred looking spots on the pic.

      Those other shots? Those are just too blurred to even bother posting. There's not one thing we can determine from something that out of focus that it amounts to shadows.
      True, those images are so blurred some may be what l think they are, or they could just be a rock! Although the water on Mars is a slam dunk.

      If l find a cow on Mars l may keep that one to myself! :rolleyes:

      True l have seen some more green that looked more like crystal's than organic, although l still believe that some plant life exists on Mars.


      Hopefully l will hit the jackpot, like l did with the Jade creek find, soon, but time will tell.


      Curiosity is sitting still at present because of a computer error, or it needs time to drive over a river???

      I will be interested to see if the environment changes, when it is operational again!


      I still believe that NASA will announce something big, or something will land somewhere, in the near future; it doesn't make any sense to me to land this in suck a high discovery area, and not say anything apart from possibly releasing a trickle of images, that a handful of people like me can post!

      There is probably a 100,000 people who, know about all this, out of 6,000,000,000!

      Probably need $15,000,000 to make it public in a global way, although Julia is collating info, of this type, and will probably release it globally, in the near future!

      Look forward to that one, although as we discussed before, some will go nuts!

      Keeping your head in the sand, is a scary way to live!

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        Weird crystal formations on this rock, and more Mars water! Enhancement shows green algae on the sides of the water. Cool! :p



        And then we have this weird thing, probably some mineral deposits left after water flowed. Enhancement shows this to be separate from the bank, and eventhough it looks like a root, l will leave this one up in the air!

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          oK, first one looks like alien plumbing, then some more likely creatures and rodents, then this stuff, that is mineral deposits? But the second image shows something on the thin stake and has a plant like shadow, l am learning towards plant!

          The last is our alien friend again, or robot, hard to tell; but it is one of the best images l have found. No background elements to interfere with the shape, and a bit more detail to go by!

          I know this could be a rock or plant, but there seems to be too much leaning towards robot, etc! So l am leaning towards something artificial on this one!!! :rolleyes:

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            Martian spider or just a weird rock formation? Either way the white lines have space underneath, so if it is a rock it is a seriously weird one!

            Considering what l have found so far, it could go either way, but since it is near a hole, caused by Curiosity, and spiders on Earth tend to hide under rocks, l am leaning towards a Martian spider. Cute!!! :p

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              More martian astronauts! These could easily be mistaken as white rocks, but the black visor in their helmets on all 4 makes it more likely that this is artificial!

              Shane

              Yep, after closer inspection the image on the left are probably rocks, but the one on the right is tougher to dismiss!
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    The one on the left is definitely rock - it's some of that agate I'm going apesh*t over - it has tubular inclusions. The one on the right looks like some of the tubular with the matrix broken from it -- but not completely. It looks a tad like it could be something else. That one would absolutely have to be brought into focus to say whether it looks natural or not.
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      The one on the left is definitely rock - it's some of that agate I'm going apesh*t over - it has tubular inclusions. The one on the right looks like some of the tubular with the matrix broken from it -- but not completely. It looks a tad like it could be something else. That one would absolutely have to be brought into focus to say whether it looks natural or not.
      Yep, interesting thing about 187, or the petrified tree, (possibly) is the stuff behind it! Looks like a silver machine of some kind and piping system!

      Seems like Martians are getting every drop they can, as drinking water. Understandably that water would be a very valuable resource!

      Seems more and more likely that intelligent life exists or has existed on Mars!

      I am still trying to get my head around the Martian metropolitan area idea, but l am sure to find more and more stuff over time!



      Yep, it's blurry, but it has some kind of lid, and shelves underneath. More likely this is another legitimate artificial object than anything else! It also has supports sticking out of the sides. Probably mapping out water catchments, underground, or something like that?

      Shane

      PS Its amazing that if there is an advanced civilization on Mars that they haven't or didn't invade Earth yet? We have plenty of water, but if they thought in that way, l suspect they would have wiped themselves out, or possibly almost did, a long time ago?

      And they are on Earth as we speak, probably waiting for NASA to give the big announcement?
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        This shows what looks like another martian stream, the far right arrow shows a waterfall, (l computer enhanced it, it isn't part of the rock). The top right hand image also shows some of the blue crystal or opal, etc in the hole.

        And another plant, (white arrow) this one shows things growing out from it, and what looks like a martian seed pod, (white thing on left) or flower! :p



        Martian starfish? It has a blue colour and certainly looks like one! Sorry to tired to correct the colour, but the blue is still visible on the starfish.



        And last of all we have more brush tail possums! They all have eyes and earns, etc, so it's likely it is a family, and l won't mention what the bottom left one is doing; animals will be animals regardless of the Planet!

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    There's more of those things in that pic (bottom) - behind and up left from the ones you pointed out. A LOT of possibilities on those things - plant. animal. mineral. machine debris.
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      There's more of those things in that pic (bottom) - behind and up left from the ones you pointed out. A LOT of possibilities on those things - plant. animal. mineral. machine debris.
      Yep, the thing on the left seriously looks like a fish with it's mouth open! Seems like our alien neighbors are into making houses, restaurants, and other structures into looking like life forms?

      If aliens really are on Mars now, then their lifestyle is probably vastly different to ours, but l suspect some parts would be familiar!

      Queenslanders, in AU, are nuts about making everything big, to attract the tourists, so Earthlings are into it as well! :rolleyes:

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        Another image, another spider!



        Interesting thing about this one, is we have a good idea of the scale. The v impression is Curiosity's tracks, and the thing l found is probably as big as a 10 cent piece, AU (quarter dollar US).

        Exciting thing about this one is, its legs, you can see three legs sticking out of the impression, a bit like he was resting and this big silver thing almost squished him!!! :rolleyes:

        What's more ironic is the fact that Curiosity's team didn't go back?

        If l saw something that looked like a Martian spider l would certainly go back!!!!

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          l know that could be a rock, but it sure looks like a baby bird? I would normally dismiss this, but the coloured beak, got me in!



          This could be more rock, but it sure looks like white fungus to me!

          I have also seen traces of water of small puddles here and there, so this is obviously a relatively wet area!

          Shane

          PS l am reasonably sure the bird one, is a rock, but if it isn't then, we may get a flying bird in the Martian sky or a flock! :p
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            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



            Ok, more interesting stuff, first blownup image shows water coming out of some kind of pipes! Could just be some more white plants, but it looks like water!

            Second image shows what looks like a polar bear, if it is a rock, it has 4 legs, (shadow).

            Next image shows more water flowing down, or small waterfalls! Cool!!! :p

            Next one shows what looks like a martian airport, the silver one with two back thrusters, exhausts, etc, is green arrow marked.

            Then we have this weird structure?

            Another fine example of a martain house. The entrances of the left, and others, including a large oval window, and car, spaceship, etc on the far right, make this hard to dismiss as just being a rock!

            And the last one, no idea!

            Shane :p

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            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



            l know that could be a rock, but it sure looks like a baby bird? I would normally dismiss this, but the coloured beak, got me in!



            This could be more rock, but it sure looks like white fungus to me!

            I have also seen traces of water of small puddles here and there, so this is obviously a relatively wet area!

            Shane

            PS l am reasonably sure the bird one, is a rock, but if it isn't then, we may get a flying bird in the Martian sky or a flock! :p
            That white with streaks of green and blue is more of that chalcedony. It could be fossiliferous, but that would be hard to tell from a picture. I see a few really light bluish green spots that glow like they are possibly gemstone of some sort. Almost the color of peridot in places - like a deep aquamarine in others. We get peridot in from space, so I'm sure the martians do, too.
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              Roschach - was the guy that started the ink blot psychiatry. Those are pretty pixilated. The top one, however, is really interesting. The others? Can't tell a thing from them.
              LOL, right!

              This is the best l can do with the resolution! It seems to be standing on both of it's wings, like a bat, and the sun is reflecting off its head and beak!

              It also seems to have mother of pearl like feathers, which would explain the highly reflective head.

              Seems like it's mother flew off, when Curiosity came trudging over the hill, and left the baby to fend for itself.

              I was trying to convince myself that this is a rock, but l am having serious doubts now!

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                Some of his evidence is dodgy, but some like the reflective rock, is a lot tougher to dismiss as just rock.

                He also mentions why we have access to these images, which l tend to believe. Scientist try to put this stuff out there, until NASA officials can it, or hide the truth just enough to keep them happy, but not to the point that people like me can't find anything!

                As for why we haven't had the big announcement yet, most likely reason apart from something landing somewhere, is legal in nature.

                They don't want to get sued!

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    Roschach - was the guy that started the ink blot psychiatry. Those are pretty pixilated. The top one, however, is really interesting. The others? Can't tell a thing from them.
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    There is so much agate there it's incredible.
    There is definitely evidence of water - there IS water presently at the poles, but is in the form of ice (at least seasonally). That isn't a question. Time lapse already showed seasonal surface water in some areas. For a planet with ice at the caps, that should not take a jump in imagination to figure out.

    Some of what is shown as artifact, I find very questionable, because I've seen some thing in nature on my field trips. There IS geometry in nature, but not in large quantities. Take pyrite as an example - metalic, cubic or triangular, natural. So some of the geometry, I can dismiss as mineral formation. However - some of these pictures are conclusive to me that there are manufactured objects on the surface of that planet.

    As far as plants and animals, I've seen enough in these pics that suggest there may be small creatures making a comeback on a planet that was destroyed. It's not much of a jump in logic to figure a few things might have survived what was considered a total wipe out. Look at the cockroach. Those things will probably survive about anything that goes on here. I doubt that there are any actually large lifeforms, though unless they are in a region they haven't shown us yet. So far, they show us desert. Not convinced that the planet is all desert, though - show us the edge of the North and South ice fields. Bacteria can survive just about anything and with water present, after thousands of years, should be able to start things rolling again if there is any atmosphere whatsoever.

    We have underground bunkers the size of a city in the US. Could people actually exist there for eons after eons if a surface catastrophe struck? Not sure. Life on this planet for the most part is made to function in conjunction with sunlight. We've seen masses of illness and death caused by the sunscreen industry's false data on the importance of sunscreen - marketing so intense that even most doctors were sucked into believing it.

    I firmly believe that there are a few reasons for the suppression of info. 1. backlash by religion moguls, such as the Vatican, who might lose their financial control of populations once something of magnitude is revealed. 2. Corporate interest in the planet - corps come first on this planet. 3. Gov fear of losing control of populations.

    Those who think and look, get to see the glimpses. Those that don't care don't matter anyhow. They'll just continue to think as they are told and eat their GMOs for dinner anyway.
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      There is so much agate there it's incredible.
      There is definitely evidence of water - there IS water presently at the poles, but is in the form of ice (at least seasonally). That isn't a question. Time lapse already showed seasonal surface water in some areas. For a planet with ice at the caps, that should not take a jump in imagination to figure out.
      Yep, water over some white rock, (first larger image, front) convinces me 100% that water is on Mars!

      And as you where saying, when Mars goes into Summer, (its in Winter now) then the poles will melt, and these areas will be much higher, water wise!

      So if NASA wants to keep hiding the truth, then they better make a beeline for a more desolate areas, as in about 6 months, the water levels will be much higher, and it will be tougher to cover up!

      So either Curiosity is broke for good, broke for 6 months, broke for a short time, and they go for a sparse area, or they just drive up to a plant and expose the lot!


      Make a great headline, "Martian Plant Found on Mars".

      Some of what is shown as artifact, I find very questionable, because I've seen some thing in nature on my field trips. There IS geometry in nature, but not in large quantities. Take pyrite as an example - metalic, cubic or triangular, natural. So some of the geometry, I can dismiss as mineral formation. However - some of these pictures are conclusive to me that there are manufactured objects on the surface of that planet.
      Pity about the metallic stuff in the video, oh well!

      Yep, l agree definitely artificial stuff on Mars, the tube in the rock, (you found) is one of the conclusive ones.


      As far as plants and animals, I've seen enough in these pics that suggest there may be small creatures making a comeback on a planet that was destroyed. It's not much of a jump in logic to figure a few things might have survived what was considered a total wipe out. Look at the cockroach. Those things will probably survive about anything that goes on here. I doubt that there are any actually large lifeforms, though unless they are in a region they haven't shown us yet. So far, they show us desert. Not convinced that the planet is all desert, though - show us the edge of the North and South ice fields. Bacteria can survive just about anything and with water present, after thousands of years, should be able to start things rolling again if there is any atmosphere whatsoever.
      Yep, if Mars has a breathable atmosphere and water then its no giant leap to suspect small animals are there as well.

      The things the small animal in the last pic was hiding in are the same one in previous pic. These ones are flowering, reminds me of above ground water lilies. Botanists would go Ape S*** over this stuff!


      I firmly believe that there are a few reasons for the suppression of info. 1. backlash by religion moguls, such as the Vatican, who might lose their financial control of populations once something of magnitude is revealed. 2. Corporate interest in the planet - corps come first on this planet. 3. Gov fear of losing control of populations.
      Yep, it seems that initially they were going to say something, now they are backtracking! Not easy when you are driving through creek beds and the occasional animal and plant life!

      I have also thought of another reason, militarily this announcement could be nasty. The last thing the US wants is free energy or especially anti gravity to fall into crackpot dictators!

      Hitler tried to develop anti gravity, when the war was going sour, realizing that it would allow him to pinpoint atomic, or conventional weapons where they were needed.

      Clearly any announcement will also need to over haul our entire system, and most likely establish a UN-based government! Probably cause a big dip in the stock market!


      Those who think and look, get to see the glimpses. Those that don't care don't matter anyhow. They'll just continue to think as they are told and eat their GMOs for dinner anyway.
      Hmmmm, better not comment on that one, but when the truth comes out people like us will think finally, and the rest will scale from heart attacks, panic attacks to shock!

      Probably be large scale riots again! Smash in some shop windows for a free for all plasma tv grab and that will show them! Or something equally as dumb.

      Shane

      PS maybe l should print up some t-shirts, and say things like...

      There is no life on Mars apart from some water and these plants and the occasional rodent!!!!:rolleyes:

      PPS can't wait to go through the rest, there might be some more hard evidence, if Curiosity is being put on hold, then it might have driven through a plant of something and NASA officials are getting concerned. When l find more you will see it here!
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    Blow that up and look at the rock on the right. It's the same color as the agate - yet it's not natural - two tubes on the bottom right - very semetrical tubes. That stuff on the left could be pipes rather than plants.
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      Yep, the one on the left seems organic, almost like a shell or underwater creature and the right hand one looks more like a light.

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        Ok, first image shows a pipe or wall; the lines show that it is likely artificial.

        I thought that the next one was another bird with a long white tail, but on closer inspection, it could be another bird with a white thing in front!

        I may have hit the jackpot with the next one!!!! :p



        first one shows what looks like a petrified tree trunk. The roots also help, with this deduction!

        Then we have another flower, and then this...

        Looks like a weapon of some kind, but the rocks with similar metallic elements on the right tend to say that this is a rock?

        Last one is the tree trunk again, (enhanced) and the arrow is pointing to what looks like a human taking a nap!

        It could be an optical illusion, but it sure looks like one! He also is wearing a hat and seems to be with a pet!

        Maybe this is what scared NASA? But Curiosity is on the move again, so it may have been a legitimate computer glitch!

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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



        Yep, the one on the left seems organic, almost like a shell or underwater creature and the right hand one looks more like a light.

        Shane
        That center tube on the left looks like one of those cameras on the long necks in the movie war of the worlds.
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    Second to last pic in post 214 doesn't look natural at all - that looks like junk - tweezers or leif springs or some such.

    Human taking a nap? LOL - you've been on it too long, guy - that's just rock.

    The inset on the top pic on post 214 looks more like a lizard than anything - wish we could get a clear shot of that one.
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      That center tube on the left looks like one of those cameras on the long necks in the movie war of the worlds.
      LOL, l think we have both been at it for too long! :rolleyes:


      Second to last pic in post 214 doesn't look natural at all - that looks like junk - tweezers or leif springs or some such.

      Human taking a nap? LOL - you've been on it too long, guy - that's just rock.

      The inset on the top pic on post 214 looks more like a lizard than anything - wish we could get a clear shot of that one.
      Yep, probably right, it is probably part of the root system of the tree, looks like a tree stump that got the top part blown off, by some disaster or as the scientist said in the video, by the forth habitable world in our system getting blown up, a good million or so years ago!

      Or another equally big natural disaster. Olympus Mons could have blown its lid, and the shock wave, did the dirty?

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        This is it for Sol 198, top image thing looks artificial, and as for the bottom image, l can't figure out whether this is another optical illusion, but certainly worth posting!

        Shane

        PS Yeah, l was right, l just went through the other Sols, and there is nothing there, just close ups of rocks! and thumbnail images and images of Curiosity!

        Boring!!!!

        Looks like NASA got spooked by the images posted above and have gone back into their shell.

        Hopefully they will release more spectacular images, like the ones shown above, but it may be over, time will tell. In the meantime l may backtrack previous Curiosity images, still plenty of cool stuff buried in them!

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          Ok, the main mast images aren't available, but the side cam ones still are!

          This could be the reason why NASA has become spooked and put the brakes on Panoramic images.



          NASA has stumbled on the Russian rover, tracks!!!

          The ones on the left are Curiosity, wide with an obvious v pattern, and the ones on the right are the Russian ones, straight pattern.



          If these are two sets of tracks then it means the Russian probe is tiny. But since someone else posted similar tracks like this in their video, and they were comparable to Curiosity's or the previous US rovers, then the thing l spotted before, (or found it in another video) is this rover, and it is at least Spirit rover sized!

          You can tell if you study and compare the tracks that it definitely isn't Curiosity's tracks; so the Russians are on Mars in the same area, and Curiosity drives right up to this, but we don't hear a thing!!!!

          Don't want to cause a diplomatic incident, l guess?

          They might be studying the area from one of the satellites, to make sure they don't run into it again, then hopefully we will see some decent images again.


          Slam dunk the Russians are on Mars as well, but no one knows about that mission apart from a handful of Russian technicians, and people higher up of course!

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    Either Russians or corporations. Who knows where the negotiations are with the corporations who wanted to go up there. Sure hope if there is life that can be conversed with that they meet Russians before corporations. Those are evil little *******s and could wind up getting us in a war with anything with a mind and technology anywhere else. I don't think other world intelligence would be up to putting up with corporate BS and greed on their planet. At all.

    The post before that comment - 218 - definitely looks like it could be junk.
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      Either Russians or corporations. Who knows where the negotiations are with the corporations who wanted to go up there. Sure hope if there is life that can be conversed with that they meet Russians before corporations. Those are evil little *******s and could wind up getting us in a war with anything with a mind and technology anywhere else. I don't think other world intelligence would be up to putting up with corporate BS and greed on their planet. At all.

      The post before that comment - 218 - definitely looks like it could be junk.


      Hmmm, l will go with Russia because they have the expertise to pinpoint a location on Mars and get it there, and this rover looks Russian.

      The other reason being it most likely runs off a atomic battery, so eventhough a Corporation could probably pull it off, a super power is more likely.

      As you are saying if a GMO Corp, sent something there, l think that any advanced alien race, would put us out of our misery, than anything else!

      The other reason is, the Russians sent a probe to one of Mars Moons in 2011, to send back samples. Just like the recent Saturn probe, they could have launched a satellite to Phobos, and used it as a satellite to transmit data from,
      Более BS, (translated "More BS") to Earth, and just said that the soil recovery bit malfunctioned.

      It could still be India or China, but for the reasons given before l will go with Russia.

      Sure hope that Millionaire launches something to Mars in the next few years, at least if he spots something interesting, he won't BS, like others do, and just go there.

      Apart from knowing Mars air pressure isn't at water boiling levels and oxygen levels are much higher, if he lands in this area, then we should see beautiful HD images of plants, animals and water!

      No doubt NASA will say he is faking it all, to get enough funding to launch a manned mission, but he can just back up his images with theirs!


      Should finally blow the lid on all this BS!

      Shane :p

      And the lazer B/W image you found could have come from this, which means that it is most likely atomic powered.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, this is Sol 188, and l thought that there weren't going to be any more cool surprises, but l was wrong, check this out....



        First blowup image shows an alien sign, might mean town? Why l think there is a road here will be shown in the next ones.

        Next image show what looks like a smoldering fireplace, with a river behind.

        Next image is where it starts to get seriously weird! I found this thing on the road, (the Martian sign is further up). Hard to judge size, it could either bee a kids toy or something the size of a truck?

        Whatever it is it has a structure above that looks like a dog, and below that there is a swan with green jade, opal inside it.

        Maybe it is an Alien version of the Circus, or maybe l got the road wrong and it's a structure.

        These Martians sure like their animals!!!! :rolleyes:

        Shane

        Yep, odds on it's a building, it seems to have a front entrance, maybe a creche!

        PPS at least there were no coke cans around the campfire. Phew!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          Yep, odds on it's a building, it seems to have a front entrance, maybe a creche!
          Unbackable odds on, it's a rock.

          This is getting sillier and sillier...
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            Unbackable odds on, it's a rock.

            This is getting sillier and sillier.
            Ok, fair enough, but if there are up to 1 million humans living on Mars, then!!!!.... :rolleyes:

            I computer enhanced this, and it is one object, (no background rocks, etc influencing what it looks like)!

            Maybe you are right and it is just rocks, but it sure looks like what it looks like, if l find some more it will help.

            I just hope that l don't find any Maccers, that would be really depressing!

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              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Ok, fair enough, but if there are up to 1 million humans living on Mars, then!!!!
              They wouldn't be human. They'd have had to evolve without access to oxygen, water and food, and would be as close to what we know as human as we are to starfish.

              There may well be life on Mars, however it would not resemble anything we have on Earth, no matter how many rocks look like rabbits, lizards or hotels. It may be so different that we wouldn't recognise it anyway.
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                They wouldn't be human. They'd have had to evolve without access to oxygen, water and food, and would be as close to what we know as human as we are to starfish.
                Much less close than that. We have some shared DNA with starfish. "People" on Mars couldn't have DNA (without oxygen and water).

                Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

                it would not resemble anything we have on Earth, no matter how many rocks look like rabbits, lizards or hotels.
                I like Shane (Tagiscom), and I intend no offense - but even I have (finally) stopped trying to use "logic" or "reason" in this fine thread.
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                  Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                  I like Tagiscom, and I intend no offense - but even I have (finally) stopped trying to use "logic" or "reason" in this fine thread.
                  Yeah, that's it for me as well. I kept coming back to hopefully see signs of life on Mars, but it's just rocks, rocks and more rocks.

                  Outta here.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    They wouldn't be human. They'd have had to evolve without access to oxygen, water and food, and would be as close to what we know as human as we are to starfish.
                    True if you trust NASA, but as l have shown they don't disclose everything they find!

                    There may well be life on Mars, however it would not resemble anything we have on Earth, no matter how many rocks look like rabbits, lizards or hotels. It may be so different that we wouldn't recognise it anyway.
                    True but Mars along with Earth got bombarded by asteroids a long time ago, and as it has been shown some tough algae could have been transferred from a collision from Earth to Mars, so some life could look similar.

                    Yeah, that's it for me as well. I kept coming back to hopefully see signs of life on Mars, but it's just rocks, rocks and more rocks.
                    You have to remember the methane that was discovered in the Martian atmosphere. Whether we like it or not, there is something alive down there.

                    Plants, animals and volcanic activity are the only options for it, and no volcanic activity has been detected, so plants and/or animals are a certainty! Although green algae is the most likely source, very tough and it has been shown to produce oxygen.

                    Whether l have shown life on Mars or just fluke rocks is up in the air, but since some of the rocks l have found moved, l suspect that some are genuine.

                    As they say l am only the messenger, and since NASA won't even acknowledge water being on the surface and going to take a closer look, the question has to be raised, why?

                    As others have said, the liquid water should be front page news, and Curiosity should be at one of these puddles, etc studying the area to death to see if something living is present!

                    Or at the very least tell the press that the tracks of another unidentified rover is on Mars, but nothing!


                    Hopefully l will find something that moves, and eventhough it could be a rock, has to be alive. Or something alive had to have moved it!

                    At the moment most of what l have found is open to being nothing or being something, but in the meantime l will report whatever l find.

                    If l find a pink elephant, you will see it here, eventhough l may have a hard time believing that one!!! :rolleyes:

                    Shane
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                        I am sure this is either a rock, or a black woman cleaning her air intake fan?

                        The second image is a large silver structure, and if a rock it must be pure silver, (the light shining of the top part).

                        Next one looks like a sundial?

                        The last one could just be rocks, but there is a gold blob with an impression in the side. So it looks like Mars has high grade metals on its surface or something has refined them?



                        Rock or alien doing something?

                        More junk, possibly?

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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



        Hmmm, l will go with Russia because they have the expertise to pinpoint a location on Mars and get it there, and this rover looks Russian.

        The other reason being it most likely runs off a atomic battery, so eventhough a Corporation could probably pull it off, a super power is more likely.

        As you are saying if a GMO Corp, sent something there, l think that any advanced alien race, would put us out of our misery, than anything else!

        The other reason is, the Russians sent a probe to one of Mars Moons in 2011, to send back samples. Just like the recent Saturn probe, they could have launched a satellite to Phobos, and used it as a satellite to transmit data from,
        Более BS, (translated "More BS") to Earth, and just said that the soil recovery bit malfunctioned.

        It could still be India or China, but for the reasons given before l will go with Russia.

        Sure hope that Millionaire launches something to Mars in the next few years, at least if he spots something interesting, he won't BS, like others do, and just go there.

        Apart from knowing Mars air pressure isn't at water boiling levels and oxygen levels are much higher, if he lands in this area, then we should see beautiful HD images of plants, animals and water!

        No doubt NASA will say he is faking it all, to get enough funding to launch a manned mission, but he can just back up his images with theirs!


        Should finally blow the lid on all this BS!

        Shane :p

        And the lazer B/W image you found could have come from this, which means that it is most likely atomic powered.
        Wait a minute - are you saying this is a pic of a rover on Mars? That looks like the Playa in NV and one of our just everyday SUVs. What' gives here?
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    Bottom pic insert in post 200 is agate. the blue/white/green/and occasionally orange is agate (silicone). The picture it's sitting in -- are those tracks Rover tracks? And - that alignment of conical rock across the tracks - that's not natural. The rocks are, but the positioning is not;.

    Top pick in 196 - that large rock looks like artifact - look at the bullet like cylindars next to it. I blew it up - they are metalic and look like large (I think, don't know the scale of that pic) bullets. It looks like modern technology coupled with stonework. Can't be sure of the rock because they can be real decieving - but those things on the right are definitely artifact.
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      Wait a minute - are you saying this is a pic of a rover on Mars? That looks like the Playa in NV and one of our just everyday SUVs. What' gives here?
      We know from the tracks l found, that there is another rover on Mars, that isn't public knowledge, so l think that there is a good chance.

      Russians tend to go with practicality over looks, although if this was smuggled along with the Phobos probe, then it wouldn't be as wide or robust as Curiosity!

      I doubt that the Russians would go up steep hills with their rover?



      Arrr, no, it just Curiosity leaving mounds of soil in the dirt, (Curiosity is half a ton, if l remember correctly).

      Top pick in 196 - that large rock looks like artifact - look at the bullet like cylindars next to it. I blew it up - they are metalic and look like large (I think, don't know the scale of that pic) bullets. It looks like modern technology coupled with stonework. Can't be sure of the rock because they can be real decieving - but those things on the right are definitely artifact.


      Hmmm, interesting!

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    I don't know anyone, including scientists, who denies there's still water on Mars. Where is NASA still denying that one. What do they think people would think the polar caps are? They are ice. Same as Earth.

    The problem with the pics is that they are pixilated and open to any form of imagination. The pic I pointed out in my last post is NOT pixilated and there is no imagination necessary to see that it is artifact. None. It's got layers of symmetric geometry. Look at it again and tell me that's not artifact. As far as the animals - several of them appear to be rock formation to me. I'm not convinced about them - especially in the regions of these pics. That doesn't mean that it isn't life elsewhere. I'm also not convinced that the surface is dead every season of the year. The green I've seen is agatized rock, not moss. I got a close up enough to see that. Agatized rock isn't that much of a surprise - just a delight that makes me want to go there.

    I still want to see regions closer to the polar caps that have access to water. Since where water is would be the most likely place to find life as we know life, I'm still having trouble reconciling their choice of where to drop down. Perhaps we are elsewhere there, too, and only getting shots from the "dead" regions they want us to see. We've seen enough to know there are artifacts there at the very least.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I don't know anyone, including scientists, who denies there's still water on Mars. Where is NASA still denying that one. What do they think people would think the polar caps are? They are ice. Same as Earth.

      The problem with the pics is that they are pixilated and open to any form of imagination. The pic I pointed out in my last post is NOT pixilated and there is no imagination necessary to see that it is artifact. None. It's got layers of symmetric geometry. Look at it again and tell me that's not artifact. As far as the animals - several of them appear to be rock formation to me. I'm not convinced about them - especially in the regions of these pics. That doesn't mean that it isn't life elsewhere. I'm also not convinced that the surface is dead every season of the year. The green I've seen is agatized rock, not moss. I got a close up enough to see that. Agatized rock isn't that much of a surprise - just a delight that makes me want to go there.

      I still want to see regions closer to the polar caps that have access to water. Since where water is would be the most likely place to find life as we know life, I'm still having trouble reconciling their choice of where to drop down. Perhaps we are elsewhere there, too, and only getting shots from the "dead" regions they want us to see. We've seen enough to know there are artifacts there at the very least.
      Yep, but you have to admit the silver structure is hard to dismiss as natural.

      Yep, l am sure what you found is likely artificial, there are a handful of things on this thread that can't be anything else.

      Clearly intelligent life existed on Mars in the past and possibly present.


      NASA intentionally sends probes, etc to relatively dead areas, so we don't find anything interesting, if there are forests on Mars, (as has been speculated in satellite images) l can guarantee you NASA wouldn't officially land there.


      Yep they did land one probe to a more colder region, and found white stuff just below the surface. A couple of days later some scrapings, which later proved to be water ice, disappeared.

      Of course NASA said that it boiled away, although melting is more likely.

      And droplets formed on one of the landers legs, frostly nights. Of course they said it was very salty water, so it could handle the atmospheric pressures, (water boils away with their pressures, although as l have shown with water on Mars surface, this is an outright lie).

      NASA will BS, around the truth until they are backed into a corner, hopefully we will get the truth soon, from someone else.

      Shane

      PS NASA isn't denying that there is water ice, on Mars just that it froze, when Mars had an atmosphere like ours, and now with atmospheric pressures supposedly, like ours 30 kms up, where water boils away, cannot become liquid on the surface, they are saying that water cannot be on the surface!

      And as l have shown that is an outright lie. We would have to put some NASA officials against a wall, to get the truth!
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        Some more martian water, that according to NASA isn't there! The first large image on the right, showing a pool from the main creek, and the sun shining off the flowing water make it likely that it's a creek. I am going backward through the images, so this is obviously getting further down Jade creek, or lower down the hill.

        The last image shows more Russian tracks, (the tracks are straight, are closer together, and also appear to be recent) Curiosity may run into it again?

        But we will probably never know!

        Shane
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          Rock or car? Don't know, but it sure looks like a transparent windscreen in the front!



          This is seriously weird! And it is a single object, (computer enhanced it to make sure, that no background rocks were interfering). Odds on this is artificial since there are two antenna sticking out of the top of this thing, (there are no other lines like this in the area) and the silver structure is resting on some legs.

          The thing up the top is a silver view screen or computer screen suspended by a curved tube.

          What is even more remarkable is that we have another thing that looks like a humanoid with white clothing sitting down and maybe chatting to someone, etc.

          For a culture probably a good thousand or more years ahead of us, this couldn't be a Video phone call, or PC screen, more likely he is an artist, or someone making a survey for underground catchments.

          Either way this image of something that looks human with tanned skin and white clothing has cropped up now and then.

          Clearly intelligent life has existed on Mars in the distant past, but l am starting to warm up to life being on Mars now, if l keep finding these images!

          Shane
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            Ok, we are up to Sol 186, there are a lot of photos here, and for a change most are close up, so the quality will be better in these ones.

            I found a martian flower above, and computer enhancement shows that it is independent of the rock!

            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              More Russian tracks, or what is left of them in the sand.





              This thing stood out in the landscape, seems to have two wings and a front windscreen. Cool! :p



              More water!

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                ok, first one shows a hexagon, (something like that) in the rock! Second one shows a rock with patterns, they are here and there, but this one has something sticking out of it?

                Last image shows a rock that seemed to have an artificial end, but hard to tell?

                The middle ones are the most exciting, since there are several, makes it tougher to dismiss as just a rock, it looks like someone glued antlers onto Wombats or Anteaters, to make them look more prehistoric, the top one has his face or nose in one of those martian flowers, maybe they are distant relatives to our anteaters? There also seems to be something like a monkey?

                When the announcement comes, it will be like Columbus coming back from America, and showing what he saw and held. Opening up a whole new habitable world in our backyards, exciting stuff!

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                • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                  The Pareidolia persists!
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Life has no other discipline to impose, if we would but realize it, than to accept life unquestioningly. Everything we shut our eyes to, everything we run away from, everything we deny, denigrate, or despise, serves to defeat us in the end. What seems nasty, painful, evil and scary can become a source of beauty, joy, and strength, if faced with an open mind.Every moment is a golden one for those who have the vision to recognize it as such.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                      Wise words.

                      Then flex your open mind and find for us a rock that bears no resemblance to anything but a rock.


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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Wise words.

                        Then flex your open mind and find for us a rock that bears no resemblance to anything but a rock.


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                        Hmmmm, there are plenty of rocks around that look like rocks, l am only interested in things that look interesting or artificial.

                        Bottom line is if the Methane in Mars atmosphere in summer was present, (the scientist checked his results 3 times) and covered a large part of the planet, then whether we like it or not, there is either life on Mars now, or plants!

                        True, l have difficulty in believing in the animal part, although what l have found looks promising, l strongly believe in at least the algae on Mars.

                        Algae, yes, plant life, probably, animals, possible, advanced junk, definitely, blue sky, definitely, etc....

                        Finding a possible plant or animal on Mars is exciting, but if you have gone through all the evidence l have built up and can honestly say you strongly believe that they are all rocks, then l doubt that l can give you the kind of proof you are after!

                        Maybe l will hit the jackpot one day a find a close up shot of something, but l wouldn't get your hopes up?

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    Is there any real proof that they are doing secret missions? seeing as it cost billions to actually get there in the first place.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Is there any real proof that they are doing secret missions? seeing as it cost billions to actually get there in the first place.
      Well, l thought that driving past water flowing down a creek and NASA and the media ignoring it, was a pretty good indication of the present state of what the masses know and don't know.

      Or that Curiosity lands in a very interesting area, but doesn't report or check any of this out. But they do take plenty of images people like me can post here, although, a few thousand finding out the truth, is a joke compared with 6 billion!

      It seems like Curiosity is disclosing everything in a stealthy way so, people with inquisitive minds will find the truth, and won't run a mock, when this is brought into the light. Or they want a couple of million of us, to know the truth, so we can help control the masses from mass suicides, or trashing a TV store, since we are going to be invaded anyway, blah, blah,.

      As for concrete proof, Julia Estrange, and many others are collating substantial amounts of witnesses and legal gov, paperwork, so they can drag this sort of thing through the law courts!

      So we will finally prove they have been keeping things from us since Viking, and probably before that. But either way, the popular media, should finally end this Dark Ages BS, and start showing some of the evidence!

      So, concrete proof is around the corner; Funny thing about the other thread about proving that aliens exist, is the DNA proved it, but l wake up the next day, and instead of it being shown on the news, nothing!

      This world is in the Dark Ages medically, energy wise and space exploration wise, but this will end soon, NASA, knows with heavy industry, supplying the private sector space components, etc, that before the year 2050, we will know we are not alone.

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        Hmmmm, more rocks l guess?

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          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


          Hmmmm, more rocks l guess?

          Shane
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          Sorry. Couldn't resist!
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Hmmmm, you forgot to mention the dog giving us the finger!!!



            I have found rocks that look like other stuff, but l don't load them because they are too dodgy. The dogs face, above being a good example; obviously some of the elements making up the face are in the foreground and some in the background.

            The Pool, nah, that is definitely a rock!!! :rolleyes: Probably a Rockpool. LOL

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Ok, its official, we should find out what is really on Mars in about 5 years time!

              Mars One introduction film (updated version) - YouTube

              http://boingboing.net/2013/04/02/dut...-offers-o.html

              No more stealth mission, crap, or avoid anything interesting just in case it is artificial, or organic, etc.

              No, this mission will be like Survivor on Mars, everything they do we will see, no more of this hidden, crap!

              I'd say NASA knows and others in power that their days are numbered, and it's only a matter of time, before we all know about hidden stuff; after all if the rover runs over a flower, they will stop and take a closer look, not come up with excuses and do a runner!

              And for a change the popular media will have to get on board, after all if 2,3 billion people want to see the live coverage of the Mars landing, they will look pretty stupid, if they didn't or raise the obvious question, why!

              Lame reasons, that don't make sence, like the Mars sky colour thing, will probably ensue, and produce a couple of billion angry viewers. We will have to wait and see, but either way we should finally get some HD images and video of all the Earth shaking stuff, we can only see from a distance!

              shane



              I know it is just a rock, but it also seems to have a simple bird and the number three drawn on it as well; and of course some more water!
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                Rock or shell? It is one piece, and has curved ends like a shell, so l honestly can't tell, but with water being present on Mars!!! :rolleyes:

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                  Weirdest rock l have ever seen, looks more like silver pipes going to a black ball? The second one might be?




                  The second one is my favorite, seriously looks like an old rusted machine with a silverish pipe sticking out of the end!



                  The last image is a current one, and since the sun is between us and the rover, we will get no more signals for a while, but it's last transmission shows it's destination mountain in the distance, but....

                  It also shows the Lost river, so the obvious question is how will NASA get this over a river or creek, without blowing their cover?

                  Easy!

                  Just say they can't receive images, etc for a few weeks, and drive it over, etc.

                  Curiosity has cameras all over it, so if it has to get over a river, the jig is up; can't say major system shutdown, but we could still drive blind, unless they have radar?

                  Best to get it over during the blind spot, and then when it is a healthy distance restart images.

                  Odds, on when it retransmits it will be on the other side of the river. Probably also explains why they aren't using the main camera, too easy for people like me to match obvious elements to figure out there the rover really is, but there is enough info, in the top image to figure it out!


                  Time will tell, well that is it for Sol 186, l will keep you posted!

                  Thanks for taking an interest.

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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Sol 184, and more interesting stuff! :p



                    A kid with a silver hooded jacket, walking his andriod, or a fluke of rocks?

                    If they are rocks they also seem to move, second more blurry shot, shows substantial movement with the humanoid looking one.

                    Could be another serious contender for artificial structure, etc.

                    Shane
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Ok, couldn't put this down, l put one of the images over the other to see if anything moved, since their was a time difference, probably only a second or two, but enough to detect any possible living or artificial things.

                      And the results are pretty impressive...:p

                      And remember that Mars doesn't have earthquakes, although it does have winds, but as you will see, it is pushing the wind as a source of movement for some of this.

                      Ok,lets start...



                      I know before the whinning and mud slinging starts that some are blurry, but obvious differences in colour, shape and position is what we are after, form is a bonus.

                      Ok, first one shows what looks like a Martian bug on a rock, normally l would ignore this, but since it has moved a few centimeters, and has feelers, legs, etc, l am putting this in serious contention for a life form. Also ad's more credibility for higher possible life forms l may have found earlier, if bugs exist.


                      Next set of images show a humanoid or robot, etc behind a fence type structure, first image things are sticking out and the second it is more hidden. Pay particular attention to the background screen, first image shows horizontal lines and a black dot in the middle, but the second image still shows the outline of the screen, but it is blending in better with the background! A bit like some intelligence was taking rock samples, and then after realizing Curiosity was taking images in their direction cleaned things up and made as many objects as invisible as possible!

                      Every time l find something that might be human, etc they tend to be invisible or covered up with a camouflage of some sort. Which of course means, the US, has a deal of some sort with them! probably take a 3rd world war to find out what the US military really has up their sleeves! :rolleyes:

                      I don't know what the next one is, but it is big, and has moved far more than perspective would allow.

                      These are the first moving objects l posted, and also show a lot of movement. The right hand image is more likely a robot, and is carrying the dark fence the lower one near the screen had.

                      Since these robots are together it could be a remote or VR robot, they control them from another area, and can interact outside, without messing around with space suits?


                      All the images l have found above go perfectly together, and l can point out the images, if others want to see the movement first hand.


                      Glad l am still finding some seriously cool images, hopefully l will find a larger creature moving about or water, etc.

                      Shane
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                        Prob, a rock, or a hat???? :rolleyes:

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                        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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                          Here you go, then (don't say I never contribute to these threads, even if I do sometimes heckle ) ...

                          "In an effort to determine if conditions were ever right on Mars to sustain life, a team of scientists, including a Michigan State University professor, has examined a meteorite that formed on the Red Planet more than a billion years ago. And although this team's work is not specifically solving the mystery, it is laying the groundwork for future researchers to answer this age-old question ..."

                          Source, and full story: Studying meteorites may reveal Mars' secrets of life
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                            The first thing was in the rock, and after enhancement is a free standing structure. Mineral deposits, maybe??? Although the green colour is leaning more towards the obvious.

                            l would say the second one is a plant of some kind, since l have seen this sort of thing several times before, and all times it looks more plant like than mineral!

                            Thanks Alexa.

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                              There you go Sal!!! :rolleyes:



                              Curiosity drove over this, so it is probably a size of a small pebble, but interesting interior!

                              Shane
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                                Top one is a toughie, prob, a weird rock or mineral leftover?

                                The bottom right is probably a rock also, but since it has 3 flat sides, and maybe some kind of checkered top, l had to put it here!

                                The last one is the toughest to dismiss as a rock, the nose, sunglasses, etc are one object, (no background elements, contaminating the image). This seems to part of another structure; Martian barber perhaps??? :rolleyes:

                                Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Blew it up a tad. That top left is a little blurry. That square underneath the rounded and conical rock is perfectly square and looks metalic. The bottom right - the triangular piece - both those look unnatural - like artifacts. I do keep an open mind for size, though. The stuff looks like pyrite. But is it super huge or just earth size or what. When stuff looks like metal or mineral crystal from earth it could be artifact - could be geological. If that stuff is like pyrite we'll see a commercial trip there before too long. What I've seen from that rock so far, any geologist or archaeologist would want to get on a flight if possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom


      The first structure is probably far enough away to be large scale.

      The lower image is part of Curiosity's tracks, so it is something that could be held in your hand.

      I am learning towards this being artificial, but as the middle rock shows, and someone online doing a video on what looked like a cube, (which was obviously a rock) we have to tread carefully!

      We both know that artificial structures exist on Mars, so this is on the short list, of possible artificial structures!

      Shane

      I won't comment too much on the nose one, don't want to give the spadankos, something to comment on!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    The first pic is too pixilated. I don't even bother with those because deciding on what a pixilated pic is takes more imagination that evidence. The second pic is definitely a rock - that one doesn't even take much of a guess. The bottom pic though, as the size you put it at could be some natural metallic crystal - or it could be "man" made. It is definitely geometric. On earth you can get pyrite crystals that large and they aren't even all that uncommon, so that is something that needs to be considered - crystals are geometric. If it were larger I would say more than likely it's man made.........even though natural could be much different sizes than here. When it's small like that, the odds of Curiosity running over it in the middle of nowhere aren't that high unless it's an area where there are major amounts of artifacts in the area. To me, with the windstorms they have there and all the sand, I'd say it's unlikely to find too many artifacts on the surface from a time long enough ago that a martian civilization would have fluorished. Kinda like the sphinx with only the top of it being above ground for so long. Hard to say. If it weren't hard to say, we'd have more answers right now even from NASA. There's only so much that they can keep quiet at this point.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom


      This is pretty cool, l have found what looks like an old wooden chest with something then "J" then "O" written on it. But when l blow it up, then it looks more like a long n, written backward and a sphere next to it, and then 3 horizontal lines next to this.

      This is another tough one to dismiss as just a rock, reminds me of Egypton symbols, which is no real surprise!

      I wont mention the other foreground object?

      But whatever this is, it seems to go back depth wise, but the purple top seems to be foreground only, like someone painted this 3D scene into this object?

      Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yeah, that looks like artifact. Too many combined geometric patterns. The coloration, though, says it's part of the rock.
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      More artifacts! The top one is definitely artificial, looks more like a boxing ring and the right hand object with the rope going in front of it, shows it isn't a perspective illusion.

      The next one, could very well be another martian painting, maybe ancient? Hard to make out exactly what this is, but none of the surrounding rocks apart from the one in front have any marking resembling this!

      And the colours remind me of Aboriginal rock paintings!



      Ok, l have pushed this image as far as l could, res, rise; and to be honest l couldn't figure this out? It initially looked like an alien face on the left, and a road or water curving around that. But it finally struck me, that the blue colour is a painting of a water catchment of some sort, and water from the left hand side and the middle was draining into it! This is pretty heavy duty cool stuff. The structures in the background seem to be a village or city, (notice the possible pyramid on the right hand side). A lot of the shapes are also reflected off the blue water; water is obviously a very important part of Martian culture.

      Not everyday l find some million year old, Martian rock paintings, depicting a city! Hope l find some more!!! :p

      Shane

      Glad l didn't give up going through the back sols, l seem to be hitting another jackpot, and l should also mention for scale purposes, Curiosity's tracks were more or less covering a third of this image, so you could probably hold this in your hand, on Earth.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        This next one should knock a few people off their seats, and the last image is the most hard to believe; l will only say it seriously looks like what it looks like! :rolleyes:

        Ok, first one shows what looks like a creature eying a bird on the rock?

        Very hard to tell whether the martian bandycoot, is genuine, but the bird, which isn't a background trick, and perched on the rock is more plausible. There is another water hole on the right, as well!

        Next one looked like a fox type creature or wolf, but on closer inspection l am reasonably sure, it's isn't. More likely it is a trick of the rock, etc.

        I will comment on the last one here, instead of below. This may just be a rock, but it seriously looks like something else. I won't say what it is, because l may start to get concerned about my sanity, but!!!! :rolleyes:



        This reminds me of this image l found a whole ago, although this was more of a byson type creature found on Mars than an ape, type creature, (gulp).



        PS, please keep the Planet of the Apes jokes down to a minimum!!! :rolleyes:

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Phew, well had another scan of them and apart from one, they are probably all rocks! Sniff.

          But l have also found some other stuff to clearly show the Ape is an artificial structure, (i keep forgetting that the aliens used to or looking at this images, do, like large stuff).


          Ok, first ape image again, you can see what looks like a sign out front, and his left hand on his chin. And his right hand or paw holding another large sign, (probably electronic). The top of the paw structure is gold as well or gold coloured.

          The top of its head has some kind of structure as well.

          Next one is another road with dust!

          This one is my favourite since it is more concrete proof that alien life did exist on Mars or is there now? You can see the top of a large silver structure, based on the scale of the roads And the top of this thing, is highly polished silver, no way this is natural!



          Next image shows another bridge, (and what l thoght was an Ariel) and the last is pretty good as well for being a serious contender for an artificial structure. A rectangular entrance, rectangular shadow, and some kind of internal structure! Cool. :p

          Shane

          PS update with the martian ape structure, apart from him wearing blue work-clothes, he is also sitting on a chair of some kind, and the yellow thing in front might be a dog, or it's equivalent!

          Hardware, or electronics store???

          Either way a structure this tall, (20 or more storey's) surviving for a million years? Might be pushing it a little, l know Mars only has winds and sand, but with moisture and plant life, it should be able to flatten this in less than 1000. Our buildings wouldn't last 100 years!
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Hmmm, could be more Russian tyre tracks?

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Ok, the last image is probably artificial, but first things first!

              First image we have another martian flower, (l tested the contrast and it is one object). Middle of image more or less.

              Second image looks more like a tin container, than a rock, but no 100% certainly on that one.

              Third image is another 10 or more storey high, statue, (top of image). Beats me what it is, and what the right hand thing is? Below that there is what seems to be a hanger of some kind, you can see a bridge below the bright rock in the middle. Also interesting to note that the base is level with the structure, not with the hill it is built on!



              Ok, now we get to the heavy duty stuff, the stuff that is hard to dismiss as just being a rock!



              Ok, when l saw this initially l thought, nah, just natural light coming through the rock somewhere, or light being reflected from the other side by a shiny rock, etc. But after a lot of study, l believe this to be a hanger of some kind!

              The closer you get to the rock entrance the brighter the light, which is lighter than the surrounding area, yeah, l know could be a shiny rock on the other side, but...

              There is also the white structure on the side of the entrance; tough to dismiss as a rock, with the straight lines, etc.

              And the light source is reflecting off this as well, or glistening off it, (hard to see, but it is there).

              Probably up there with being on the short list as being artificial, and if the light source is artificial then it could imply aliens on Mars now, instead of a million years ago. But with their tech, it still doesn't guarantee that train of thought.


              The slam dunk images, etc seem to be just out of our reach, which means NASA went there and camouflaged the obvious stuff, or they made a deal with the current life forms, (which seems more likely)?

              The obvious answer is, why, why go to such a hot area, and go to all that trouble?

              NASA is preparing for full disclosure of all this, is the only answer that makes sence. It will probably be years away or 5 years, etc, but it is probably a certainly.

              At least we won't be shocked, when it does happen. The people that bury their heads in the sand, and see an artificial structure as anything else but, will be hit the hardest. Shrinks, paradise, l guess?

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Bottom pics in post 269 - that's a natural feature. Any time you get around rock arches they act like that in light. Nothing unusual -- however, that greenish clear thing in front of it, down just a ways is either a mineral crystal (looks a lot like a light aquamarine crystal) - or it's a tube of some sort.
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    258 - the rock rover drove over..........looks like agatized, actually looks opalized. Some sort of silicon rock at the very least. I'm going to be hunting that stuff this weekend - bet I don't get anything near as nice as what I'm seeing on Mars.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Yeah, l know rocks, but rocks generally don't have cross shapes? The second allow on the right, (top) is pointing at something that is creating a dust cloud! Most likely another air intake or maybe a ship, with a petrol, (free energy) head alien, revving it out.

      But it's probably an air intake! And the structures on the left are probably structures of some kind.



      Shane

      PS hope that your rock hunting goes well, Sal!
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    That bottom arrow - that big thing it's pointing to? That's not a rock. Not by any standards I've ever seen. That's artifact.
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      Hmmm, did look a bit like the back of a miners shed? But it could be the back of something else, a display perhaps. Also interesting to note that the generator is clearer, or the central part of the fan is more clearly visible. I think l can make out the fan blades as well? Although if this is turned on, it is most likely the structure, not the actual blades or energy patterns they use?

      There also could be a path going up the small hill?

      This the best res, l can get. Let me know if you spot anything l missed?

      There are other possible structures around this, but it was too iffy to post!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More brush tail possums!



        The second Possum or mouse is pretty interesting considering l had two images, so some movement could be detected, proving that it isn't a rock, unless rocks move in complex ways on Mars?

        Left hand image shows his mouth to be open or pulled back, and the right hand one, more pushed out of closed. Couldn't detect any other movement, and computer enhancement show this to be one object.

        Seems more and more likely Mars has simple plant and animal life, although it is a hard one to swallow!

        Shane

        PS the first mouse also seems to have baby ones, there is one and possibly two just below the mother. Sweet!:p
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, first image shows, something? May be natural, may not?

          Second image shows more obvious signs of past or present intelligent life.

          And the other two images show more artificial structures! Interesting thing about the one on the left is the plant type white stuff on the rocks. Maybe they are growing it to harvest?



          Second image shows more artificial structures; The second image could be ancient ruins, the two square windows or holes gives it away.

          The next one shows what looks like an alien ship, it has a silver coating or layer, (looks like a hot-rod, maybe there are humanoids there). :rolleyes:



          The bottom image on the right, is the most exciting since you can see the struts in the windows, or opening and something behind it. A Martian church perhaps?

          The last one shows a water outlet, or more obvious proof of intelligent life. You can reasonably clearly see the tap opening at the end and silver metal, (you can even catch a reflection on the underside of this structure). Cool!!!:p



          The last image shows a metallic wing of some kind. Probably a structure, of some sort?

          I have also seen signs of smoke as well, but not conclusive enough to post here, l will keep you posted!


          Yep, Mars is a dead planet, apart from water and small animals and plants and possible intelligent life, and obvious signs of artificial structures???? :rolleyes:

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            Martain underground structure, (arrow shows the possible entrance) or rock?

            Either way there is plenty of green algae growing here and there, regardless. Looks like a slam dunk that Mars has green algae growing on its surface, and water, so a lot of exciting possibilities open up.

            The third arrow shows a Warner Bros sound studio, type building, with a white path leading to the entrance. Storage depot of some kind?



            This rock has a white structure attached, reminds me of a generator, there is also a road and other suspect structures around this!

            It seems that the Martians use the natural rocks, or bolders for building, etc covers now or in the past?

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              Definitely another artificial structure, you can tell by the central support and supports going out from that in all directions.

              Wouldn't know what the blue structure on top is, but there seems to be an entrance on the lower section; highly polished silver roof with some martian red dust on it!

              The rock near this, may have something on top, but too hard to tell what it is? But it does have some patterns on the left side of the rock sticking up. And on top; best guess it is a sports stadium of some kind? Considering the distance, it could be as large as something we would build on Earth, so!!! :rolleyes: Designs look Mayan, not surprised!

              Shane

              PS this is the limit contrast wise, so if you can make anything from the rock designs, let me know!
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              • Profile picture of the author senthu
                Some of the stuff you have here is very interesting. It's tough to disregard some of the blown up pictures but I can see the margin for error, especially when the snapshots start getting blown up.
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                • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                  Did you guys know that the Mars Rover (Curiosity) is a little less than ten foot square? These pictures are taken from a few feet away. These things you are looking at are a few inches across. The photos that are magnified? These rocks (or Martians) are an inch or two high.

                  If you magnify the image enough for it to be blurry? You're looking at things an inch high or less. Just a thought.
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Did you guys know that the Mars Rover (Curiosity) is a little less than ten foot square? These pictures are taken from a few feet away. These things you are looking at are a few inches across. The photos that are magnified? These rocks (or Martians) are an inch or two high.

                    If you magnify the image enough for it to be blurry? You're looking at things an inch high or less. Just a thought.
                    Arrr, no Claude, some images show close ups, but the ones above show distant shots, (it is hard to judge, since it isn't 3D).

                    I know this because of the first shots Curiosity took of Mount sharp, which was a good 2 to 3 k's away at least, and details could still be picked up, by enlarging, etc the image at this distance. It certainly looked a lot closer before l did some research on it.

                    And usually when it does close ups, the tire tracks show up in some part of the image.

                    True the Panoramic or main camera does take close up,s, but most of the time they show distant shots.

                    I covered the distance issue in another part of this thread, and thank's for pointing that out.



                    Some of the stuff you have here is very interesting. It's tough to disregard some of the blown up pictures but I can see the margin for error, especially when the snapshots start getting blown up.
                    True, some of the B/W are a bit iffy, but if a black blob, moves or changes into a black, and white blob, or especially white, then something is going on!


                    Unfortunately this is the best we will get from NASA at this time. But as said before, there is no sence landing in a hot spot, unless full disclosure is on the agenda.


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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Ok, top image shows these two weird things, alien or martian rovers, hard to tell, but the top mast is obviously flexible.

                      If these are Japanese rovers for example, they are pointing at the buildings l found near the water faucet, (previous image) and maybe they are seeing how close they can get before being discovered, etc?



                      Lower image shows another dwelling!

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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Ok, more weird stuff! The last image shows something l was hoping to find, and makes it a lot more likely aliens are on Mars, now!

                        First image is very likely another artificial structure, and relatively near the road.

                        Second image shows more obvious signs of water and plant life.

                        And then another structure.

                        Next one shows a rock, but on the enlarged one, the left side has a newly dug trench, leading to what looks like an entrance, and what could be a man hiding in front of a rock?

                        Right hand side shows, a plant with a metallic cylinder behind it, or just a plant, or hopefully some more water pouring out, (notice the possible highlight).

                        Then we get to the last one....



                        When l first saw what looked like cars moving along the road, throwing up dust, l knew that small tornadoes, do exist on Mars, (similar to the AU outback ones) so l couldn't be absolutely sure.

                        But this definitely isn't a whirl wind, dust is being blown up by this car, and it is traveling along a flat section. Which probably means it has something touching the ground!

                        The large artificial structures were pointing towards this, unlikely even with advanced materials that something 10 or more storey's high could last a million years!

                        Also explains, how our culture has seemed to be regularly contacted by these beings in our past, (yep, l saw Chariots of the Gods). Some said because of the immense distances involved that this was unlikely, but if there is an advanced civilization, in our neighborhood, then it is more than likely!

                        Shows what a load of b*** invasion movies are, they could have taken over a few thousand years ago, when we were a pushover. Although now we would probably do ourselves in with the nonsense we come up with!

                        Shane

                        PS probably also explains why they landed in a hotspot, and are releasing small amounts of useful data, so people like me can slowly release it.

                        Easier to grasp the high likelihood of aliens on Mars, etc over time, than NASA giving an announcement, that there is an advanced civilization on Mars, etc.

                        Probably scare the crap out of the general population, and riots, mass suicides, and possible ramping up of Star Wars type weapons in space, (as Reagan tried to do) would result.

                        The equivalent to cavemen throwing rocks at tanks!
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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, found these mini tornadoes, to illustrate that the previous car on the road, is throwing up dust behind it. And some of the dust is in front of the car, so it isn't a background color fluke; the car also has a very slight motion blurr, but tough to see.

                          And l should also point out that these winds look more like steam and seem to be coming from a specific area, instead of the ground.


                          It seems that the more l go through these images or down the hill, the more industrial it becomes.

                          The second one shows one of these probes l found before, it could be a structure or something else, but with the air vent type design on the side, likely artificial.

                          Next image shows this small, (Corioustys wheel tracks were nearby) gold tinge device, Ring perhaps?

                          The one on the left of this, could be a square hole through a rock, but it could just be a rock on top?



                          Next ones are more exciting finds; something or someone has created this square hole in solid rock, (you can tell from the sunlight on part of it).

                          And the last one shows a Martian pipe system going down the hill. Hard to tell whether it is still in use but either way it doesn't make the pioneers, who saw Mars through telescopes and saw channels, etc, as out there as they looked.

                          If intelligent life is on Mars now, then global construction projects could be possible, (central gov, unlimited free energy, etc).

                          Shane

                          PS l know about the puffs of smoke, here and there and other structures around the place, but unfortunately my time is limited, as is my dropbox memory, so l will show the highlights!

                          PPS also noticed a highly detailed pipe, (top of image, left) definitely not a rock! A rock that looks like a steel pipe with supports and struts, etc, is so ridiculously unlikely that a metal pipe on Mars, is more plausible. The evidence is building!
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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Another road, first arrow on the right is throwing up some dust, (or the car, truck, etc is).

                            Second arrow from the right is a structure, since it is pointing towards the road and has a comic or lizard, etc face up top, must be a family restaurant.

                            There is also a structure above the first arrow on the right, which seems to be resting on two supports, and has a what looks like solid silver cone. There is even a break in this shape at the small end. Definitely not a rock!!!

                            Continued...



                            Second image which continues on from the first, shows where the road it going!

                            It curves around and goes past a large gold structure, and maybe a bigger structure next to that.

                            Another Martian shopping ctr, perhaps! :rolleyes:

                            Seems like they at least have a chain of Dinosaur burgers outlets across Mars, probably don't do take out orders for Earth?

                            Thank goodness there is no "M", symbol's anywhere!

                            Probably be trading with them before the year 2100. Unless the sociopaths manage to keep this buried, unlikely!

                            Shane

                            PS after studying the top restaurant sign, l believe it to be a baby possum or rabbit sign. Makes sense, to put a creche next to a shopping ctr.
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Ok, more weird stuff!

                              First off this lid or sheld, or l don't know, but l do know that a perfect rectangle with chizel edges and a possible pattern on it is artificial.

                              Second image shows what looks like another human in the middle, (same as the other human type images) on her knees, doing something with a white shirt, black pants, etc).

                              Only difference with this one is there seems to be a small crowd of them nearby? Down further on the left, behind the oval shape rocks, (viewing platform?).




                              Next one shows what looks like a Martian hanger of some kind, obviously abandoned.

                              And the last shows some more wreckage, beats me what it is, but it doesn't look natural.

                              Here is a closeup of the markings, could be their symbol, or a company name logo? If anyone has any ideas as to what this is l will be all ears, and please no Klingon jokes!!! :rolleyes:



                              Shane

                              PS found other dusty roads and what looked like cars with large wheels, but they were too blurry to post!
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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                Another Martian rabbit or rabbits! :p

                                Second image is more exciting...



                                It very likely shows one of the cars that l caught racing alone the freeway or road.

                                Highly polished metal, white hubcaps, and a place to sit.

                                True this could still be a rock, but with the high likelihood of real cars being on Mars or an advanced civilization; there will certainly be genuine ones somewhere.

                                I tend to believe this is a Martian car, the summetary is too perfect on all sides, the shadow shows a rectangular shape, a hole in the centre of the back wheel, and the highly polished metal, or whatever puts the odds in my favor.

                                Certainly the previous image of something like this racing along a road, add's to the credibility.


                                Well that's it for Sol 184, l will keep you posted.

                                Shane
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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  Ok, Sol 173, and it doesn't stop!

                                  Firstly we have more wheel tracks from our Russian friends!

                                  Most of these tracks are worn away, so it is probably a while ago.



                                  Then we have more, possibly ancient rock sculptures...

                                  First arrow shows that someone or something carved out the rock and sculptured this? Front view of one of their spacecraft is the best explanation of what it depicts!

                                  Could be a front view of what their spacecraft looked like a million years ago?

                                  Other two may be faces or just flukes of the rock?



                                  The last one or enlargement of the rock above shows what looks like a highly reflective rock.

                                  You can see the horizon, Martian blue sky and Curiosity's outline where the arrow is pointing!

                                  Fascinating.

                                  Shane

                                  PS had a good look at the reflective rock above, and l am blown away at what l found, check this out...



                                  This is pushing the contrast as much as possible; the white stuff above may actually be a cloudy or overcast sky! So much for whispy, high altitude clouds only. This could also mean rain on other part of Mars?

                                  And the blue background is the distant hills, (Mars is looking more and more like Earth, or Earths desert regions).

                                  But it gets better, the left hand arrow shows these 3 or 4 silver balloons, which are tethered to a base of some kind!!! :p May also be a structure, probably not ours.


                                  Curiosity drives right past conclusive proof of intelligent life on Mars, and apart from getting lucky with reflective rocks, we don't see a thing, apart from what l manage to dig up. Grrrrr

                                  I initially thought that the cloud was the top of the rock, but since the bubble structure, goes past the cloud, it is clearly part of what is being reflected.

                                  And it isn't part of the cloud since the silver Spheres are reflecting the darker base.

                                  UPDATE: The black blob, and silver shape in the middle of the reflective rock, is l believe to be Curiosity. Makes more sense than further back on the right! And that means it drove right past the artificial structure.

                                  Sounds like something out of a great Sci-Fi movie. It is pointing its, cameras one way, and it's main mast camera, on an encrypted channel, shows a large alien structure!
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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    Phew, first image on the left is another reflective rock, (Curiosity in the middle, blue mountains in the background and cloudy sky, but it seems to be clearing, so it could be mist). Mist shouldn't exist either!

                                    Second image on the right shows another obvious artificial structure.

                                    And the next shows cut steps, seats or something else with paths in between.

                                    Then we get to the stuff l have trouble comprehending, but...

                                    This seriously looks like a sporting area with cars driving about on the flat area, and a stadium full of people?

                                    The next shows an open entrance into solid rock, showing that rocks sometimes are not rocks.




                                    Then we have a path going between two rocks, and more obvious signs of water.

                                    Then a close up of the rock path or road, there is clearly a lot of dust being generated by something at the end of the rocks. The structures near this, and a possible taller structure near the rock only add's to the mystery.

                                    Probably a mining operation of some kind!

                                    Shane
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                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                      Mining, power plant??? but the large shape above is putting out something, steam is the best guess.

                                      Lower image are some more weird structures, and l found another cube. This one continues to show the white clouds and patches where the sun can shine, (reflection). It may show some other weird stuff as well, but too hard to make out at this res,.

                                      Clearly explains why Curiosity has it's cameras at the ground when, the sun is occasionally out, and has it's cameras pointing at the sky when it is a clear sky day.



                                      More weird stuff, looks like H.G. Wells, wasn't half wrong?



                                      Top image shows another car, or seriously looks like one, it is throwing up some dust as well.

                                      And bottom image is more plant life.



                                      Shane

                                      PS almost forgot to mention this; letters, symbols, (top right hand screen)?

                                      Probably landing pads!

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                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                        More Martian junk! :rolleyes:

                                        Some of it appears to be rusted, but the open tube on the rock, (bottom, left) and structure near that shows that this is more junk than rocks.



                                        Next image or arrow shows another spaceship.

                                        You can tell from the windscreen, or window at the right, and storage tubes or cones behind it.

                                        There is another artificial structure behind this, as well, probably for loading, unloading, etc.

                                        Most likely a cargo ship or some kind?

                                        Shane


                                        PS A big thank you for getting this post past the 10,000 mark; it is good to know that most WF members do have an open mind on this subject, and will study the available evidence, than just dismiss it out of hand! :p:p

                                        And the more viral this post goes the better, people have a right to know the truth! Or at least study the available evidence, and realize that some conspiracy theory's are real!

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                                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                          Hard to tell whether or not, this is more martian graffiti, or just the rock?



                                          This is interesting, the martians seem to be hiding their most obvious stuff with artificial walls, or invisibility technology!

                                          We saw this being used on the previous hanger, but the sunshine gleaming off it, showed it was a hidden object.

                                          This is a good example of their tech, the rock above has lines or distortions on the right side of this rock, and if you look closely, the lines fit in perfectly with the parts of the rock that are sticking out, proving that it isn't a fluke, of the background, etc.

                                          But just as before invisibility tends to become less invisible with sunlight gleaming off it, as is shown in the first few distortion lines up top.

                                          This was also seen in the robot or blurry closeup images, l posted earlier.

                                          And if you look at the end of the rock, (visible part) it seems to have something mechanical, etc at the end.

                                          Huge generator, telescope, your guess is as good as mine?

                                          Shane
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                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                            Just saw a Mars special on tv, and eventhough it had the usual stuff, it did show the face on Mars in 3D.

                                            I hate to say it, but the face does look like a hill, although NASA showing a pile of rocks where the face was found, (recent data) doesn't make sense?

                                            It also doesn't make sense as to why they would do this, when the original image, showed a hill half a mile high and 1.5 miles across?

                                            Still think there is some nonsense going on, but at the moment the face is a question mark, or l am on the fence!


                                            They did also say that 1/3 of Mars has water under it's surface, or ice, etc.

                                            So flowing water on Mars should be no surprise, and we should have had front page news about this!!!!

                                            Clearly we haven't because of the supposed, air pressure being too high to support liquid water on the surface. And showing that could lead to clouds, and the other stuff l found, as well as others.


                                            There was also someone on this show, that showed why we see faces everywhere, to desperately find order in chaos, etc.

                                            Fair enough, but l suspect that if l showed him this thread odd's on he would dismiss it all as rocks, which is impressive considering some are green, and that Mars has blue sky's with blue mountains in the distance with similar cloud cover that Earth does!


                                            A skeptical scientist is far worse than a skeptical person. At least a person will weight the available evidence, and give a balanced belief, or find the evidence compelling enough to hold any skepticism until he finds out more.


                                            A skeptical scientist will hide behind his research to a point that clear cut evidence will be dismissed as his mind trying to make it look artificial, or worse convince himself he is delusional and seek out external help!


                                            A green rock can be dismissed as rust deposits, etc, but not if methane has been detected and confirmed 3 times, on a third of Mars with no active volcanic activity ever being detected!

                                            Or if l find 10 green rocks, some are clearly genuine!

                                            Shane
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                                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                              Ok, found another artificial silver structure on the right, and what looks like a car on the left?



                                              Next ones are more interesting, firstly we have this mining operation. White water is being dispelled or used to be, from the large diamond shape in this rock.

                                              There could also be a structure on top, since the top area seems to have been leveled, or different colored soil or rock is seen.

                                              The image below shows, a pipe outlet; and the bottom right hand image shows what might be a flower?



                                              I have seen these diamond type holes here and there, but dismissed them as something else, or not worth posting, but from what l have so far found a mining operation is present on Mars, or used to be.

                                              I tend to believe it is happening now, somewhere, but this one could be abandoned?

                                              Shane
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                                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                Hmmm, at least one part is genuine!

                                                Looks like they held a shape against the rock and blew the paint around it.

                                                Australian Aborigines did something similar with their hands.


                                                Although here a tool may have been used to stray the paint into the rock?



                                                5 sided cog shape, a tough one to dismiss as natural!

                                                Shane
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                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                  I don't know what this is, but it doesn't look like a rock!



                                                  Seems that there is an outpost on Mars already, maybe human?

                                                  First arrow on the left shows, a shiny object, definitely not a rock, and more of a rectangular shape!

                                                  Third arrow shows this very shiny structure! And there's an other obvious tunnel entrance on the right.



                                                  I have also seen more pebbles about, so finding a crowd of people in the distance, (previous images) was me getting ahead of myself? But it did look like it! Sniff!

                                                  This is interesting, l am finding for Sol 173, that l have to click on "color correction" twice instead of the usual once! Maybe NASA is getting a little scared of the green stuff on the rocks? Or congress, is getting p*** off again and wants some answers???



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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    That green stuff - as well as the blue and white (and tubular) is chalcedony - -and looks just like our own here on earth. Mars has a major amount of silicon - and it shows in those rocks. I'd kill to get some of them into lapidary.
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  • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
    I love researching this stuff and am subscribed to "ufotvstudios" on youtube, and I am wearing my Coral Castle shirt right now LOL. If you look at these pics, and then look at birds eye shots of cities in ruins on earth they look eerily similar.
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      That green stuff - as well as the blue and white (and tubular) is chalcedony - -and looks just like our own here on earth. Mars has a major amount of silicon - and it shows in those rocks. I'd kill to get some of them into lapidary.
      Hmmm, could be, but with the artificial structure on the left, and Curiosity's reflection, (including black spot where the camera that took the shot was) l will stay with highly reflective rock.

      The cloud cover should be no real surprise, we have seen whispy clouds in Mars sky for years, but with the cover story that Mars has virtually no atmosphere, etc, wispy, high altitude is the best we will get officially.

      Also explains why Curiosity points the cameras at the ground at times, and only takes close ups at other extended periods. Too much cloud cover!

      I am sure to find some more reflective rocks, that will confirm my hypotheses, but at present, if it looks like a duck, etc...



      I love researching this stuff and am subscribed to "ufotvstudios" on youtube, and I am wearing my Coral Castle shirt right now LOL. If you look at these pics, and then look at birds eye shots of cities in ruins on earth they look eerily similar.
      Yep, me too, pretty exciting to find something that no one on Earth has seen yet, and posting it here.

      The invisible energy field is still a pretty cool find, it also has this on the other side as well. This white energy doesn't show on any of the other rocks, so it certainly keeps the skeptics shaking in their boots!

      The reflective rock was my most exciting find, since it shows what Curiosity really see's on Mars, not the BS images we get.

      And as Sal has said, it could be mineral deposits, but since it is showing a good representation of the surrounding landscape, with Curiosity, etc, and the artificial structure separating the cloud deck from the hills, l tend to go with reflective rock. Although initially l thought that the white at least was some mineral, but available data doesn't support this.

      Curiosity pointing its camera at the sky at this time would help, but no images of the sky is available, smells fishy!


      Don't forget to spread the word, PROmotions LLC, the more people that know the truth the better.

      Shane
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by PROmotions LLC View Post

      I love researching this stuff and am subscribed to "ufotvstudios" on youtube, and I am wearing my Coral Castle shirt right now LOL. If you look at these pics, and then look at birds eye shots of cities in ruins on earth they look eerily similar.
      Oh there's a lot of junk up there. Unless they have minerals that are completely unheard of here, there's nothing we know of that will make some of the geometric formations we can see in these pics.

      However - Shane insists the green is algae or plant and I am completely certain it is chalcedony. I am a gem hunter and see enough chalcedony to know it when I see it. I would say a lot of it is opalite - looks brittle, glassy. A lot of the tubes and circles we see in that chalcedony/opalite mineralization are also natural and occur here.....and such stones are coveted finds in the field here. Many occur in OR/ID/NV...but I'm not telling where, lol.

      Here's a picture of one of the tube agates I picked up (ON EARTH). Some are more embedded in chalcedony matrixes than this one - but you can see why I am certain from this sample that those particular formations are completely natural in areas of dense amounts of silicon:

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        No, fair enough Sal, l suspect that a good part of the green stuff is mineral, but some is clearly algae. The first picture l found of green stuff on the surrounding rocks, (first page) is a good example of algae, instead of mineral.

        But the green stuff on rocks here and there, is up in the air; gut instinct and common sence can differentiate between mineral and plant.

        And clearly because of the methane experiment, both exist on Mars at present.


        Here's a picture of one of the tube agates I picked up (ON EARTH). Some are more embedded in chalcedony matrixes than this one - but you can see why I am certain from this sample that those particular formations are completely natural in areas of dense amounts of silicon:
        Yep, l can relate as to why you think the top of the reflective rock is this mineral, l initially thought so at first, but Curiosity's reflection, and the artificial structure, etc made me think otherwise.

        I think that if this rock was all mineral for the colors, then Curiosity reflection, wouldn't be as clean cut color wise than it is, it would be half curiosity and half mineral color?

        And l know that the artificial structure could be painted onto the rock or over the mineral colours, but l tend to believe that it is a real structure Curiosity drove past.

        Which means Mars weather patterns are more like Earth's.

        Anyway it is only a matter of time before l find some more reflective rocks, and evidence will build for high mineral rocks or highly reflective?

        Stay tuned!

        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, hit a bit of a jackpot concerning reflective rocks! Some may still be mineral, but l suspect most are reflections.

          First one shows a reasonably reflective rock, showing Curiosity more or less in the middle, and the hills and sky, etc. Hard to make out if the background white or silver stuff is artificial or clouds. But l have found better ones than this, so we will press on.

          And some more roads bottom image...



          Ok, next one clearly shows Mars real sky color, which is obviously blue! And the top left hand corner of this rock, shows part of Curiosity's robotic arms, (silver ball, etc) or at least l hope it does? :rolleyes:



          The next one are again a little blurry, but show Mars sky color as well as Curiosity's reflection again.



          Next one has two reflective rocks, l blew these up with the gem l found, coming up next!



          This is one of the best reflective rocks l have found so far, almost a flat mirror of the surrounding landscape!

          The top, right silver thing is one of Curiosity's robotic arms, and as you can also see, Curiosity's driving is throwing up some dust. There is a lot of interesting stuff in the background, but the next image does a better job...




          Ok, the first on the bottom left shows Curiosity's robotic arm at the top, (silver thing).

          And the right hand, bottom image shows another one, but look more closely, it also seems to have a cool Martian car parked on the rock?

          The blownup top image, shows a Martian dust storm on the horizon. It also shows some weird structures on the horizon, top, right.

          Could be the sphere type structure l saw before?

          Then we have some green stuff, (leave that up in the air) and then this...

          This seriously looks like Curiosity is driving away from an enormous pyramid of some kind. The darker edges of this thing are visible on both sides, (top) with a little blue sky here and there. Although most of the white on top of this rock is probably glare?

          Could just be a trick of light caused by the dust, etc, but it seems to well defined and straight to be an illusion.

          I will be chomping at the bit now, for more of these reflective rocks!!! Sweet :p

          Shane

          PS l have studied the top one a bit more, and it seems to be a fort or wall, before the hill, or pyramid?

          The left hand cylinder with the brown stripes, is the most obvious part!
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard A.Cox
            Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

            And the right hand, bottom image shows another one, but look more closely, it also seems to have a cool Martian car parked on the rock?
            I am in the UK, so I need to check.

            Are you being serious?
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Are you being serious?
              Hmmm, you might be right, upon closer inspection it is more likely a dwelling of some kind?

              I am just saying the odd's are slightly higher it is artificial than natural, but if you want a better example of a possible cars on Mars, check out the previous thread!


              If advanced life is on Mars, then a lot of things we find familar are possible!


              Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author PROmotions LLC
    Oh I do, I am always like.....

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      Originally Posted by PROmotions LLC View Post

      Oh I do, I am always like.....

      This image tells everything that needs to be said about the current state of Television.

      History TV (and its canadian equivalent) actually used to have REAL documentaries (and usually it was about war)
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        I heard about the latest findings, saying that the soil could support plants a long time ago, of course!!! :rolleyes:

        And finding ancient clay, blah, blah......


        Then l found this video, (l also tried to find the news cast, but couldn't, since l saw someone being interviewed behind monitors with blue sky's present).

        This video has simulations of Curiosity in the background, (both having blueish sky's).

        And the occasional monitor also has blue sky's, although tougher to see.


        It seems like NASA already knows Mars has blue skies, but for some reason we don't get photos showing this.

        Obviously full disclosure will take time, but it still sucks!!!



        Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author Richard A.Cox
    So you are serious. OK, well, I suppose it's as good a hobby as any.

    As far as pictures from NASA go, this one is my current favorite.



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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      More reflective rocks. It is hard to make out Curiosity's shape, but the background hill, or whatever it is and blue sky is still visible.

      It is a slam dunk at this point concerning whether or not Mars has a blue sky or red, grey sky!

      Which means conspiracy or unimaginable stupidly resides at NASA?



      Bottom rock shows Curiosity's reflection a bit better than the other one, (middle rock, white thing) and behind it you can just make out the blue background mountain and the blue sky!

      Ok, revisited the Martian fort again, and found these, definitely looks like there is something there?

      The structure at the top of the mountain, (bottom round rock) or flat top, (pyramid) is the most obvious part.

      First time l have seen a yellow bar with black dots evenly spaced along it.



      I also blew up the reflective rock near the car or whatever it is, and found some interesting sculptures!

      The cave entrance, bottom left could be an underground tunnel, and the entrance symbol, middle, bottom has a blue circle in the middle. This could be a map for an underground transit system, so when Mars has a year long dust storm the inhabitants are covered!

      There is also some blue white patterns up top, (l thought this was a reflection initially) so it seems even the local inhabitants paint their sky blue! The top left hand blue artwork could also be depicting the tunnel?

      There is also an electronic sign placed up from the entrance. Seems to be saying S, or slow, if they use the same language we do?

      A transparent rectangular sign, on Mars with a pattern on it in the shape of an S, hmmm, seems like advanced junk on Mars is also a slam dunk, unless of course someone can explain this as a natural formation! LOL! :rolleyes:

      There is also a blue circle at the base of this sign, could signify a STOP sign??? But if they are 1000 years or more ahead of us, then a warp system for rapid transit across the planet could be possible? The rounded cloud formations top right, remind me of a simulation of what a plane went through, near the devils triangle, (he also reported events that physicists said would be present at space, time warps) he also arrived at his destination much earlier than he should have.

      I would say some of their tech, would blow us away, (awe wise) so doco's should take it slow, when the NASA bubble finally bursts!


      If anyone makes out something from this, please let me or us know. Seems like a large Martian version of a green street sign. Cool!:p

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, some more weird markings on a rock, etc!



        And yet more on the rocks below!!!!



        Then we have another reflective rock, which shows Curiosity on its side or side view. I don't have a clue about the green thing above Curiosity in the distance, but the pyramid, slash city on top, etc is on the right.

        The main reason l posted this one, is because of the blue mountains behind Curiosity as well as the Earth like blue sky with clouds! The dark blue thing behind Curiosity is it's shadow, obviously late in the day which also explains the blue colored hills, etc!

        Funny we never see blue mountains in Mars rover photos, but that would indicate a high water content atmosphere?

        Upon closer inspection there is also grey clouds mixed in with the white ones, which means rain on Mars! And that opens up a lot of possibilities.

        Pity NASA couldn't have just leveled with us, during Viking, knowing at the very least that we have another earth type planet in our backyards, may help our planet. Or opening up communications with anything there, could have revolutionized our world! Sigh!!!


        And the white green thing at the front of the rock may be a plant! :p

        Or mineral, but l like the plant idea!

        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, nothing much to report this time, just the usual martian houses, etc.

          First on the right is a flag, with what looks like a transparent football helmet design. Hmmmm!

          Then we have some more weird stuff, and the broken pottery and another structure between the rocks, etc is below!



          Ok, now we get to the really serious stuff!

          This is a closeup of a Martian house, or human, etc. But from the looks of the white creature looking back, it may not be human, probably a hybrid, or camouflaged with white???



          This could also be a sign, since it looks like torn fabric below? But there is a path leading up to this, (see blue arrows pointing to steps). And you can even see a brown or wooden door with a lighter pattern on front, or two slats!

          There is even a cross pattern or window at the top left!


          I think that the skeptics are going to have a tough time dismissing this as a pile of rocks!


          It is obvious intelligent life did or does exist on Mars at present. But with this showing a fabric puppet, and wooded door, it is leaning more towards intelligent life now!

          It also raises the real possibility that Mars has forests on its surface, maybe plantation but definitely wooden.

          Exciting stuff, l will keep you posted! :p

          Shane

          PS the door if you look closely has two metal handles, (you can just make out the bigger joins to the door, and the sign up front seems to be showing a simple picture of a dragon flying over the landscape or town, with a blue sky!!!

          No doubt the white thing is a mouse!

          Must be a population explosion on Mars at present, hope they are not thinking about relocating. Last thing we need is illegal aliens, LOL!
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, first off we have these robots on the rock. Obviously not ours, they look too advanced, and look similar to the bigger ones l found earlier, (the ones l thought were a boy and his android).


            Then we have a metallic thing sticking out of the rock, and last of all, another rock with very likely green moss growing all over it!

            I know it might be jade, etc, but it looks fuzzy, so l will stay with the moss one! :rolleyes:



            I don't know what this is? A man with his legs up in the air, a weird plant or rock?



            My best guess is that it is weird rock formations like the "side car mirror" type one l posted here before? That or a plant?

            Shane

            PS Ok, l went back for a better look, and enhanced the image, etc. The right image door seems to have 3 door handles, although the third may just be part of the rock?

            There are these oval patterns under the eaves, (bottom image does a better job).

            And the sign with the martian dragon, may be depicting a tower of some kind?

            After closer inspection, the base is transparent, or you can see the hills behind it, and it seems to be holding up a sign of some kind, with possibly a green tail, (left side, top) and a head the other side with Yellow hair, or yellow something?

            The sign shows hills and an orange sky!

            And below the mouse their seems to be another blue disk, or the blue oval l saw at the bottom of the "S" sign. Might be the equivalent of our green sign, meaning, "we are open" or "you can go"? But l might be wrong and it could be STOP?

            The top, (first house image) or left hand image also seems to show forests behind the hills or road sign. Enhancement seems to verify this.

            Occasional rain, makes sense, with finding puddles here and there in other images. A relatively desert type area shouldn't have puddles unless the occasional shower is present, or frequent underground strings?

            But l tend to think that the rain idea, makes more sense and fits in better with current images.



            Beats me what it depicts or describes, but certainly fascinating!

            Martian costume party's perhaps? The white mouse is obviously there to get peoples attention, but thankfully for us, it got my attention!

            There are a lot of these circular patterns going along the eaves, which l believe now to be supports for main support beams for the roof. Probably wooden, but might be steel.

            The odd's of all this being natural is bordering on the impossible, l think we have to face the fact that, there is something on Mars!

            But since this seems to be a more conventional house or business address, l tend to think that some humans are on Mars as well, (no airtight doors)!
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Whatever is in this hole, it doesn't look natural?



              Ok, plenty more great stuff here, first off is this structure, then next to that more lines or markings. Seems to be a Zig-Zag type pattern, which l have seen here and there.

              Then we have this thing on the left that seriously looks like a dead animal. The other reason l say this is because it is near a watering hole...

              Next image down, shows what looks like another house, although more advanced than the one l found previously, (you can see the reflection, and the stilts holding part of the structure up on the right).



              Then what looks like a silver bottle and another brush tail possum, (probably)?



              Top image shows a sign or tower, and other structures; there are paths as well.

              Then the next images show dams, or water catchments, (you can just see the dirty water at the bottom of these impressions) and some kind of gate system!

              The Martians also put this cute image onto the rock; maybe they are aware Curiosity is there, and they are trying to dispel some of the fear, we humans have with this sort of thing, thanks to our A****** governments!

              Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Another giant sculpture, looks like a dogs face holding up a paw? There is also another blue light here, below it's left hand.

                Then we have the usual dwellings, etc...



                The next is another slam dunk for being artificial. Firstly is this thing, on the side of a rock, an air intake of some kind perhaps?

                Then we have more cars or buggies, but at least one of them might be a dwelling!

                Then another reflective rock, you can see the blue hills, (the sun is setting in these shots) and blue cloudy sky!



                Next one we have another reflective rock, this one is showing the sun setting behind a rock. And you can see the clouds interacting with the sun on either side! Nice! :p



                The last rock shows the blue hills and cloudy sky; and the black shapes are part of the rock. There is also a green sign in the shape of a W, on the left!



                Cool!

                Shane
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  More distant structures!



                  And another reflective rock, with some more seriously cool stuff!

                  Ok, the right hand silver thing is l believe part of Curiosity, then you have the dust near the centre, that l initially thought was a martian dust-devel, but when you look at further enhancement's l have my doubts.


                  Then you have the usual blue hills, blue sky and orangery clouds, since it is nearing sunset on Mars when these were taken.

                  The small arrow also shows some blue, which l initially thought was just Curiosity's cameras having kittens, but l don't believe so.

                  The next image shows a natural view, not slightly enhanced as the first blowup of this image is, and the blue is still there, so if clouds are there and rain, then lakes, etc must be present also.

                  The other reason l mention this is, it is near the pyramid we saw in previous ref, rock images.

                  The blown up last image clearly shows that part of this thing is definitely artificial, but there is more...



                  There is also an impression in the ground showing something sticking out of the center, with white smoke or steam pouring out of the end part!

                  The giant structure on the right is the most obvious, or the hollow cylinder. This thing also has two holes in the front, (easier to see on previous images) and some structures up top.

                  There could be other structures as well, but too hard to tell whether they are in the rock itself or in the distance!


                  No wonder they don't want to show the truth, it would scare the crap out of most if they knew that instead of a desert, there was Vegas in the distance!

                  Shane
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, top one shows some green mist or mist or dust mixed in with something organic behind or in the atmostphere?

                    You can also get a glimpse of the blue sky and clouds, top.



                    Next rock shows Curiosity on the left and more green stuff. Probably algae or minerals from the surrounding rocks.



                    Next rock shows more green atmosphere, and more landscape. This reminds me of an article l read about Martian dust storms and how some orbiting satellites noticed green coloration in the atmosphere. Spores from the algae perhaps?



                    Bottom image shows another reflective rock or rocks and the right one shows Curiosity in the middle, and the left shows this thing in the distance?

                    It looks like a pyramid or door, (right of arrow)?

                    Very hard to make out which, but certainly not natural.

                    Shane


                    PS, l have thought long and hard as to why NASA would land their rover in such an exciting area, after all the previous two, found very little, or only distant blurry images at best, (l have only peeked at previous images).

                    And have come to the conclusion that this is a suttle way to let planet Earth know about all this without potentially causing mass riots, etc or insetting the percentage of the population that like keeping their heads in the sand.

                    So, me disclosing all this, as well as others, is either a test to see if we will go on a rampage or handle it well.

                    Which means full disclosure is a possibility or this is the best we will get. A pitifully small number of humans know the truth, and most through their own actions, or the actions of others wont!

                    But with free enterprise on their heels, l feel it is only a matter of time, until a privately owned rover see's all this in HD, full screen.

                    Can't wait! :p

                    At least if it see's a house in the distance it won't do a runner!


                    :pThanks everyone for making this the most popular post or thread on the WF! Sweet!:p
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Phew, took a bit of searching to find this, l didn't expect to hit the jackpot like l did last week with the house, but maybe one day l will find something better?

                      Ok, first sculpture is another alien face, but he looks distressed or concerned, and seems to be waving his arms around! Blatantly obvious what this is depicting!

                      But l don't l don't think there are many on the WF with their heads still in the sand?



                      Next one on the right is Curiosity's reflection, l know that it is blurry, but you can still make out the blue hills and orange sky!

                      The left hand ones show, what looks like water that corroded the surrounding rock, in the past?

                      And the lower image is for Sal, since it seriously looks like green opal, but l will let the resident rock expert give the final word on that one!



                      Last one shows the martian sunset with the bright orange sky, beautiful! :p So much for the blue sky at sunset only crap!



                      There are some other weird structures as well, but l suspect one of them is Curiosity?

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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        This is what Mars looks like at sunset, (left hand rock) orange or blue landscape, depending on which direction you are looking from and very light orange colored sky!

                        This rock is very reflective by the light it is reflecting off, and the fact that you can just see Curiosity's reflection, (arrow).

                        The other rock on the right has something sculptured into it, but l can't make out much, (computer enhanced it)! Might be a king ruling his kingdom, or something like that?



                        Next one shows Curiosity's reflection again, but it's the background l am most interested in.

                        Top one shows a cleaned up version and the bottom one enhanced.



                        Curiosity's reflective shine is showing us a slightly different view of the surrounding landscape or the blue backdrop, but the camera is showing the background behind it.

                        So, the background is light blue hills, with very light orange sky.

                        The other remarkable thing is that high clouds or the edges of them are clearly visible, especially the cloud below the arrow on the right; which means more impressive cloud features, etc are only a matter of time!


                        And below that a green tinge. There is also this tall thing sticky up, (bottom arrow).

                        Group of trees, structure or rock, impossible to tell, but still intriguing.

                        Some other rocks might fill in the blanks one day soon?


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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, this shot shows Curiositys reflection in the middle, and a lot of orangey, yellow clouds, including the more obvious one on the left.



                          Next one shows the orange sun setting between the hills! Cool. :p



                          Here is a bluwnup image of Curiosity from the first image, note the orangey light reflecting off it!

                          I can just make out some of it's wheel rims, (middle of image).




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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Ok, these are the last of Sol 173 images!

                            First image shows another house as well as what could be a well, there seems to be water on top, and a car/bike parked underneath. I thought that this was another Curiosity reflection, but this thing doesn't fit it's shape.



                            Another reflective rock, showing Curiosity or another artificial structure, as well as the surrounding landscape.



                            And the bottom image shows what looks like a shell!

                            Sweet! :p

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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Ok, had a peek at current images, and found that NASA has finally posted some decent ones, the sky obviously cleared! :rolleyes:

                              These are from Sol 344 to 337 if you want to take a look yourself.

                              First image shows another reflective rock, and another martain blue sky as well as Curiosity's ref, (arrow).

                              Hard to tell whether there are still clouds about, but l can see at least one, in the top left hand corner above Curiositys mast.



                              I haven't a clue what this is, local witch doctor dancing for rain? But the white helmet and visor, as well as the shadow, make this compelling.

                              Could still be a pile of rocks, but!!! :rolleyes:



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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                Ok, some more fascinating stuff.

                                The first shows another creek in the distance, and this white stuff? Salt perhaps??? :confused:



                                Next is this structure, a thing that looks more like a machine than a rock. This weird structure with possible humans walking about? The middle one appears to be looking straight at Curiosity, obviously this is too blurry to be definite but still interesting.

                                Last one another possible car and road, but the motion blur is harder to detect on this one. sniff!



                                Last one shows this thing spewing out steam, but it could just be a fluke of rocks?

                                Next image shows some more water and other weird stuff!

                                Last image shows another reflective rock, and blue mountain background.



                                Last one shows another very reflective rock, Curiosity is in the middle, and the sky is the unmistakable Viking type blue with a faint whisper of clouds! Explains why we are not getting any sky camera shots, too overcast!



                                And remember these are current images, so the sunset ones are on hold until l get through these!

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  • Profile picture of the author Lokahi
    If there is life on Mars, the governments probably won't tell us for fear of starting a public panic. And, if life did exist, it would probably not be sophisticated enough to communicate with. The world didn't end when the Mayans said it would. So it's a moot point now.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Lokahi View Post

      If there is life on Mars, the governments probably won't tell us for fear of starting a public panic. And, if life did exist, it would probably not be sophisticated enough to communicate with. The world didn't end when the Mayans said it would. So it's a moot point now.

      Hmmm, true, but the question still remains, why did they land here, or land in a hotspot?

      I am convinced especially now, that NASA is telling us that Mars is an M class planet, but doing it in a very restricted way.

      So, the general population won't run a muck, or people who can't handle this sort of thing, can still ignore it, (although the house pictures are pretty hard to dismiss).


      As for there being intelligent life there now, l am still collecting data on that, although there is a good chance from what l have seen or found that that is the case.


      But, it is a sure thing, intelligent life did exist there at some point!


      The house, was probably a fluke, or the team sifting through all the images, decided to leave it in, but with any luck l will find something like this, with someone opening the door, etc.


      I am still amazed how someone can dismiss the obvious, but as said before that is their option!

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Another martian house, this one is built into the rock, as are most. Martian rocks generally don't have white concrete pillars supporting them, and a large glass view area on the right!



        Next one shows some more water and another structure similar to the one a few posts above.



        There is also a uniform geometric pattern on the door, just to give the doubters a headache!

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Lower image shows some structures at the top of the hill, the one on the left is the easiest to spot.

          The first is more exciting since NASA is getting slack and put in some clouds.

          They usually only show high altitude wispy clouds at best, so this is pushy the envelope a little more than usual, let's hope they keep it up! :p

          But to the casual observer, looking at raw Curiosity images, there is nothing much to see.


          The other likely reason is, since it has been a good week and a half to two without any sky pictures, they may be getting concerned that the general public may be getting confused that Curiosity has only taken images of the landscape or rocks, without any sky showing for a lentghy period, so that may be the other reason they pushed the rule book?



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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, first image shows this weird thing, doesn't look natural to me, especially the blue thing, or giant swimming pool, (right)?



            Next image shows another large river in the distance, but it's the structures in front of this that has me scratching my head. Trees perhaps?



            Lower image seems to show water flowing out of this outlet, most likely from an underground spring. This water is flowing down to the pond below. It is muddy, but the reflections can be seen.

            Next one shows some more reflective rocks, and what is behind Curiosity. You can clearly see Curiosity in the middle of the first rock, and a whitish sky.



            This looks seriously like a road or tyre tracks! Maybe this is all fake, and being filmed in a desert in the US?




            I saved the best til last, another obvious martian house!

            The two rectangular windows in the middle are the most obvious part.

            There is also a silver structure in the middle, at the bottom of this, might be for power generation?




            All these images have strong filters to darken the image, and some of these images are substantially darker than others, eventhough the sky, and time of day is similar.

            Which means NASA do scan their images before release to the general public, and images with a darker look than usual are usually hiding something worthwhile, as l have shown with the above ones.


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shane - no matter what these pics are or are not-- they are completely bizarre. I am just sick about not being able to see them close up without pixilation.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Shane - no matter what these pics are or are not-- they are completely bizarre. I am just sick about not being able to see them close up without pixilation.

      Yep, join the club, but NASA doesn't want people who fervently deny any life, etc on Mars, to run amok.


      If my self worth or identity was attached to believing that Mars doc, were accurate and anything l or anyone else said to the contrary to mainstream media were crackpots, then NASA announcing the lot, would literally knock a fair percentage of the population off their feet!


      I mean if l saw this stuff in HD, high res, it would stun me as well, eventhough l believe intelligent life is or was there at some point.

      I would quickly get over it, but someone who is a control freak, etc, would be a physiological wreck. And that could lead to drinking, drugs, maybe even suicide!

      People who are like this, will dismiss the obvious, even blatantly obvious. But if it is on TV, newspapers, then they will have to accept it.

      And that could lead to the above as well as groups of people trashing streets, etc.


      But on a positive side, l suspect that NASA, if there is no obvious signs of unrest, etc in the general population, they might release more and more cool stuff, like the house or hall l found previously?


      But in the next few years the entranapeur discussed on this forum, should be sending a privately owned rover to Mars.

      Then the HD images should be shown!

      Shane

      PS if you see Curiosity moving about in a desert, in the US, on one of your rock hunting expeditions, do me a favour and kick it on its side, then take a few hundred shots, the above road, has me suspicious!!! LOL!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More weird stuff!

        Firstly we have this solar panel type structure supported by a white pillar, which doesn't make much sense, since it is in the middle of know-where, but look closer...

        There is another house structure on the right, with a similar roof to the spectacular house l discovered earlier. This one also has a giant generator or air intake, also resembling the one l found a few pages back.



        The next one is another possible pyramid in the distance? Whatever this is, it has a different color on top! Hmmmm....:rolleyes:.



        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, here are the last of the recent ones.

          First one is this polished rock? I thought that Sal, might like it?

          Then a hillside full of more weird stuff! Note the pink or purple colors.



          Then we have another weird structure and entrance. Mining operation perhaps?



          Next we have some more possible cars. Note the dust, that isn't normally present anywhere else around rocks, etc. Only near things that look like moving cars?



          Next we have these transparent coffee rectangles curving over this space, with a lookout on the left.

          Racetrack? Whatever this is, it isn't natural!



          Last image shows another Martian artificial wall, that is supposed to look like natural rock.

          But this time, we got lucky, l found some reflective rocks above this showing what the Martians don't want us to see.


          They seem to have dwellings, etc perched on this artificial rock, but it's the blue color below this, that is the most intriguing!

          The silver tube on the right is another artificial structure.



          Ok, well that is it for the most recent ones, l will keep you posted.

          Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author USA
    Merriam Webster's definition of the word imaginary.

    "the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality"

    If only I had such powers of imagination... That what I might portray through my pen, the likes of which has not been put to parchment since the late great Edgar Rice Burroughs!


    Sorry, but this is a very, very, funny thread!!
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by USA View Post

      Merriam Webster's definition of the word imaginary.

      "the act or power of forming a mental image of something not present to the senses or never before wholly perceived in reality"

      If only I had such powers of imagination... That what I might portray through my pen, the likes of which has not been put to parchment since the late great Edgar Rice Burroughs!


      Sorry, but this is a very, very, funny thread!!

      Yep, the martian house or hall, is hilarious! Especially the rectangular shapes going up and down both sides underneath the roof, (which are all the same shape and size and alignment) and the wooden looking door with handles and supports!

      And the fact that the odd's of this being natural are in the trillions to one!!!


      The most hilarious thing of all, is the inability of some to acknowledge the blatantly obvious!


      Have a nice day!

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author USA
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Yep, the martian house or hall, is hilarious! Especially the rectangular shapes going up and down both sides underneath the roof, (which are all the same shape and size and alignment) and the wooden looking door with handles and supports!

        And the fact that the odd's of this being natural are in the trillions to one!!!


        The most hilarious thing of all, is the inability of some to acknowledge the blatantly obvious!


        Have a nice day!

        Shane
        Hi Shane,

        Thank you for this very informative thread.

        It must be obvious to you from my previous post that I am a little skeptical to say the least. I'm not a geologist, nor do I pretend to have any lay knowledge in this field. I was a physics and electrical engineering major in college who never went back to earn my masters.

        During my career in the military I often had various images taken from satellites, aircraft, and by operators on the ground readily available to me for the job at hand.

        I have been briefed by experts on numerous occasions as to what seemed to me at the time, unrecognizable figures and structures in those images. Their ability to discern many accurate details with great scale, precision, and accuracy never ceased to amaze me.


        I cannot see what you see in those images.


        The Chicoms (Chinese) have a saying, “Do not be like the frog, who at the bottom of a deep well, looks up at the sky and thinks that this is all of the world there is to see.”


        Our equivalent in the West is, “The mind is like unto a parachute, it only works when it is open!”


        That being said, I can tell you this much. The images you posted, undoubtedly have been altered to obscure any intelligence that may gleaned by our enemies and friends alike. Much is to be gained by those first to exploit any natural resources from other than our own home planet.


        One thing I know for sure is that the quality (resolution) of those images has been greatly reduced. Had the government so wished, they could have provided images of such clarity that your speculations would be laid to rest once and for all. I think the real reasons lie in the strategic advantages I mentioned previously. In addition, much would be revealed about the potential capabilities of our imaging equipment to our enemies should that information be released. There are numerous other technical "secrets" that would be divulged as well.


        I will give you this. I have an acquaintance who is a member of my church, a recently laid off NASA scientist (laid off when the Shuttle program was shut down), who says some pretty way out there stuff about what NASA claims to have discovered about our universe. Most of it is hard to swallow, except for the fact that I personally know and trust the source, whose qualifications I can personally attest to.

        Yes, I believe much information is withheld from the general public, but for the reasons I have already alluded to.

        Please take the humor of my previous post in jest, I meant no disrespect.

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by USA View Post

          Hi Shane,

          Thank you for this very informative thread.

          It must be obvious to you from my previous post that I am a little skeptical to say the least. I'm not a geologist, nor do I pretend to have any lay knowledge in this field. I was a physics and electrical engineering major in college who never went back to earn my masters.

          During my career in the military I often had various images taken from satellites, aircraft, and by operators on the ground readily available to me for the job at hand.

          I have been briefed by experts on numerous occasions as to what seemed to me at the time, unrecognizable figures and structures in those images. Their ability to discern many accurate details with great scale, precision, and accuracy never ceased to amaze me.


          I cannot see what you see in those images.


          The Chicoms (Chinese) have a saying, "Do not be like the frog, who at the bottom of a deep well, looks up at the sky and thinks that this is all of the world there is to see."


          Our equivalent in the West is, "The mind is like unto a parachute, it only works when it is open!"



          That being said, I can tell you this much. The images you posted, undoubtedly have been altered to obscure any intelligence that may gleaned by our enemies and friends alike. Much is to be gained by those first to exploit any natural resources from other than our own home planet.


          One thing I know for sure is that the quality (resolution) of those images has been greatly reduced. Had the government so wished, they could have provided images of such clarity that your speculations would be laid to rest once and for all. I think the real reasons lie in the strategic advantages I mentioned previously. In addition, much would be revealed about the potential capabilities of our imaging equipment to our enemies should that information be released. There are numerous other technical "secrets" that would be divulged as well.


          I will give you this. I have an acquaintance who is a member of my church, a recently laid off NASA scientist (laid off when the Shuttle program was shut down), who says some pretty way out there stuff about what NASA claims to have discovered about our universe. Most of it is hard to swallow, except for the fact that I personally know and trust the source, whose qualifications I can personally attest to.

          Yes, I believe much information is withheld from the general public, but for the reasons I have already alluded to.

          Please take the humor of my previous post in jest, I meant no disrespect.

          Chet
          previous post that I am a little skeptical to say the least.
          Ok, nothing wrong with that, l tend to get a bit carried away when l see something that looks like something familiar, then have to retract later, as l got it wrong.


          I cannot see what you see in those images.


          The Chicoms (Chinese) have a saying, "Do not be like the frog, who at the bottom of a deep well, looks up at the sky and thinks that this is all of the world there is to see."


          Our equivalent in the West is, "The mind is like unto a parachute, it only works when it is open!"
          Yes, well, fair enough, but it goes both ways.

          I might see a coke can on Mars, and others might say it is a rock, but if deductive reasoning, and odd's are substantially in my favor, then it is probably is what it seems to be.


          It is like a UFO landing on your front lawn, some will dismiss it as a hoax, or a radio controlled blimp, etc, but if it takes off at very high speed, then it is most likely the genuine thing!

          That being said, I can tell you this much. The images you posted, undoubtedly have been altered to obscure any intelligence that may gleaned by our enemies and friends alike.
          True!


          who says some pretty way out there stuff about what NASA claims to have discovered about our universe. Most of it is hard to swallow, except for the fact that I personally know and trust the source, whose qualifications I can personally attest to.
          Yep, no doubt he would talk about the advanced crystal device found near the pyramid's on Earth, and their potential, and higher realities, which we can only get a fleeting glimpse of with present tech, etc.

          Don't really want to get into that sort of stuff, the skeptics would have me for lunch! :rolleyes:


          Please take the humor of my previous post in jest, I meant no disrespect.

          Chet
          Ok, Chet fair enough. I would recommend going through this entire post. True, there are blurry images here and there, but the images relating to water on Mars, green algae and earth like sky's, are pretty conclusive!

          It is also pretty obvious that advanced junk is on Mars as we speak, but as you have said before spoonfeading this to us is the best we will get!

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, this is Sol, 345-357, or current images.

            First image shows these weird rocks, Sal might have some ideas, but it looks like the Martains went nuts with some spray cans, (martian graffiti).



            Next image show what someone see's and how much more can be seen with a bit of cleaning up, or removing the darker filters.

            Their image a dark murky sky.

            My cleaned up image a blue sky with a faint whisper of pink clouds.



            Lower image shows another likely river. This goes on quite a way, but l showed the best part!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I'd really love to see that pic without all the pixialtion. YOu have a link on the original site for that one?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'd really love to see that pic without all the pixialtion. YOu have a link on the original site for that one?
      Yep, go to the bottom of the page, then Mast Camera (Mastcam), then click on Sol, 345 image number.....0345MR1400005000E1_DXXX.

      Mars Science Laboratory: Raw Images


      Hopefully you are referring to the martian telescope thing?


      Good luck, and let me or us know if you find anything cool! :p


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    Check it out if you want the STORY on Mars...... www.enterprisemission.com

    Get ready for hours and hours of going down the rabbit hole! :-)

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  • Profile picture of the author senton1
    Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, however the head actually looks a lot more like a rodent.
    I'm no expert, but I donrrrt see whatever resembles a rock in this image. What size can you reckon that thing is?
    I'm not sure what things to make of all of this, but great work, tagiscom.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by senton1 View Post

      Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, however the head actually looks a lot more like a rodent.
      I'm no expert, but I donrrrt see whatever resembles a rock in this image. What size can you reckon that thing is?
      I'm not sure what things to make of all of this, but great work, tagiscom.
      Considering the distance probably a few story's high, or a typical dinosaur size.


      But the funny thing is, l haven't seen anymore of them roaming the countryside?

      And this theme park, (the dinosaur building shape and head, imply's this) seems to have one or two roaming a specified area.

      I am still trying to get concrete proof intelligent life is there now, but l at the very least know there is a good chance of that.

      If there is intelligent life there now and a very advanced civilization, then grabbing dinosaur Earth DNA, or theirs and bringing it back to life is more than feasible.


      Thanks Senton, it is nice to get some positive encouragement. I could scour all these images and just keep it to myself, but people have a right to know, eventhough the Ostriches, may get snooty!


      Although no skeptic has shown how the house or hall, is a pile of rocks!!!

      Probably the best piece of evidence l have to date to show intelligent life was there, in the past at the very least!

      A lot of things l show could be dismissed as a rock, but when several elements come together, and the odd's start moving into the trillions to one, that it isn't a pile of rocks, then regardless of personal hangups, it needs to be seriously considered as genuine!


      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Martian town?

        Not, sure, but there is a road or flat piece of ground going past this, and some rocks look suspiciously like dwellings. The dust blowing up here and there add's to the credibility.



        More weird stuff, another rock house with white stilts is below. Maybe some more martians staying still while Curiosity takes it pictures, is right.



        Then below we have this weird thing on the left, and some steps leading to nowhere on the right.

        But l suspect with the heavy distortion behind it, it could lead to a structure of some kind?

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          More advanced martian junk!

          First one is this tall thing, definitely not a rock! Rocks don't have silver disks separated by a brown stem!!!

          Right is another martian generator, there seems to be a factory of some kind close to this, but not really worth posting.


          Clearly the martians that were there or are there, generate their own power, rather than centralize it like we do!

          The bottom one is another reflective rock clearly showing a blue sky, although l doubt that l have to convince anyone of that fact by now?



          The second one gets more interesting!

          Below is this huge structure in the distance. Very hard to tell whether the green cylinder is suspended on the side of the mountain or behind it. But looking at the supports it is probably supported by them.

          Hopefully this isn't a weapon?



          The image on the left, shows what could be humans on Mars, but unfortunately l can't form any definite conclusions.

          The thing on the right is anyone's guess, but it probably isn't a rock!

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            More martain clouds!

            Curiosity or part of it, is on the left. The bottom part has an orange cloud, but the big one in the middle is still a mystery, since part of the cloud is in front of the hill?

            Weird cloud, structure of both, your guess is as good as mine! :rolleyes:



            Had to take a closer look at this one, to try to figure it out. I believe now, that it is an artificial structure with probably other structures going up the hill.

            What is even more remarkable is spotting rain. The arrow shows a rain cloud or darker cloud and a grey gradient color underneath, looking remarkably like rain in the distance



            Second one we have these artificial structures on a rock. The rock may be supported by white pillars, but l can't be 100% certain?



            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Read about a related article about what intelligent life is on Mars in a UFO mag today, and it had some striking similarities with my images.

              This is leaked NASA officials spilling the beans, etc

              First part said that humanoids are there as well as the typical grey martians and another, or a descendant of ours that is reptilian based.



              They said they, (the repitilian ones) usually camoflage themselves, since their looks are on the scary side.

              Describes the image below to a tee!



              They also went into Philadelphia experiment spinoff, tech, and hidden US bases on Mars, which is plausible especially if Mars is M class, which seems more and more likely!

              So there could be 3 races on Mars at present, two that can breathe the atmosphere and one that can't!


              Fascinating stuff!

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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                More reflective rocks, more weird stuff!

                You can see part of Curiosity's robotic arm on the left, but the grey thing????

                Duststorm, (although color doesn't match) structure or tornado, your guess is as good as mine.

                I initially thought that it was part of the rock, but the images below cross this option out.



                Whatever this is it is in front of the mountain, and massive.



                Best guess it is a giant fire or smoke from it.

                Cool! :p

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Ok, first off we have this weird structure with a gold pipe sticking out of the top, and further down we have this smoke or steam coming out of the ground. Maybe Mars does have volcanic activity?



                  Second one is going to knock your socks off!

                  Take a look at the lower image and make your way up, what do you see?

                  I see a statue holding a glass bottle with white liquid inside. The white liquid is also pouring or being depicted as dripping over the landscape. A bit like honey.

                  I know that it is a transparent bottle, because the reflection is showing a white landscape not the grey or green landscape shown in the reflective rock next to it.

                  You can also see Curiosity's mast-cam in this rock as well, (dark rectangle at the top of the rock).



                  Probably a business selling martian alcohol?

                  Shane
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, nothing much to report this time, just the usual martian house and bus, etc! :p



                    There seems to be a bridge in front and some smoke on the left side!


                    Ok, next one is pretty cool.....



                    See the thing on the left that seriously looks like a car, (there could also be a more distant one, top arrow) then take a look at the one on the right!

                    I could swear it looks like a bus, and the white things with the brown top might be people.

                    Taking the school kids out to see the natural rock formations, perhaps!


                    If this is genuine, it is going to blow us away. We know of 3 planets, light years away that very likely have life on them, but to see an advanced civilization in our back yards will take some getting used to! :p

                    At least the golden age of stupidity we are going through now, will come to an end!


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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Ok, as usual l will go from good to great...

                      First off are some rocks with green on them, well dark or military green but still green.



                      Then another likely martian house!



                      Looks like rapids to me. Another reason l say this, is because the blue is very different to the darker purpley blue we see throughout the landscape.

                      Our martian friends are putting up another square mirror, you can see Curiosity in the middle, and a blue sky with the occasional white cloud in the distance!



                      The last one is the best, take a look at the top one, looks like a giant door in the side of the mountain. If true this thing must be 20-30 storey's high.

                      The lower image also shows some other structures in the hill next to it, maybe even observation decks?



                      Computer enhanced the door, it seems to have no further details or an actual door, just an opening.



                      Cool!!!! :p


                      Shane
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Ok, two images today; l always get excited when l am processing a darker than normal image, as it usually hides some cool stuff.

                        First off we have these weird things, the structure on the right is obviously artificial, doubt that there are many silver rocks with rectangular openings?

                        Then what looks like a humanoid type sign. The human type thing is probably a robot, and the purple thing at the base is probably a depiction of an open book, (you can see the reflection of the surrounding landscape). And the white thing is l believe a depiction of a human bent or crunched up.

                        Whatever this sign is depicting, it seems to represent Learning, Art and Science. Museum perhaps?



                        Second one shows a rock with some weird stuff on top, but the middle image shows strange markings or impression in the ground. And it also shows a giant statue near this. Cool! :p

                        Some kind of outdoor sporting area, best guess!



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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, first one shows this impression or pattern in the sand or dirt. Seems like there is something alive up there!



                          Next we have this weird thing on a pole. There are light and dark brown markings on this, and reminds me of Egyption patterns, (no real surprise there).

                          Seems to be near another freestanding structure that looks a lot like a postbox.



                          Last one is another energy pattern or possible cloaking devise, but hard to say?

                          The closeup shows a pattern and square shape above that.

                          There also seems to be another structure on the right, which is obviously a silver color.



                          We can certainly ascertain from the energy fields here and there, that if there is intelligent life there now, it is probably a good thousand or more years ahead of us.


                          They could revolutionize our planet for the better, and get us off oil for good. At least for power generation!


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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Ok, first one looks like a life form half buried in the sand, or a classic image of what we would expect to see, but l can't be curtain!



                            The left hand image shows some more weird patterns, or martian artwork. And the right hand one, shows these seriously weird colors. Looks like a flower with green around it?

                            But since there are no shadows, and it seems to be flat, it is either more algae, or it is reflecting a flower type plant?

                            Cool!:p

                            Lower image shows another structure.



                            And yet another. Right hand image shows another ring tail possum or structure depicting one?

                            Then we have possible worms on the right, and more reflective rocks showing some rocks and a cloudy sky, (there seems to be some thick clouds on the left!



                            Last one is the coolest, this could very well be another artificial structure of some kind, but it seriously looks like someone is bending down to sort out his washing??? :confused:



                            Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Looks like silicon rich rock to me. I pick up stuff very similar right here on earth. While I have seen stuff in some of these pics that are almost undeniably relic/junk, etc., a lot of pics just seem to me to be normal silica based rock.

    But present life? Find anything about what the atmosphere content is right now on that planet? I was led to believe there wasn't much atmosphere, and if that is correct, no matter what something looks like, it's not gonna be alive.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Looks like silicon rich rock to me. I pick up stuff very similar right here on earth. While I have seen stuff in some of these pics that are almost undeniably relic/junk, etc., a lot of pics just seem to me to be normal silica based rock.

      But present life? Find anything about what the atmosphere content is right now on that planet? I was led to believe there wasn't much atmosphere, and if that is correct, no matter what something looks like, it's not gonna be alive.

      True, but since Mars atmosphere has....

      • Blue sky's, like Earth.

      • And most likely clouds like Earth, and likely rainclouds.

      • And water is on it's surface.

      • And its been proven with the Methane experiment, that a third of Mars has plant life on it, or green algae.


      True l can't prove 100% that animals are there now, but have proven that intelligent life was there or is there now.

      So, everything else is certainly possible.


      NASA isn't going to publicly admit the above, because of the panic that might ensue, but they will and have been releasing a trickle instead, so people like me can show what is there to a very small portion of the general public.


      If NASA said tomorrow on all major news stations that Mars has intelligent very advanced life on it, and was more or less another Earth, panic would happen.

      Not sure if it would be widespread, but some would think that an invasion is eminent, or a H.G. Wells scenario would happen.

      And others would be overcome with fear of a viral infection when they paid us a visit, etc.


      I would personally be glued to my tv, thinking this is seriously cool, when will they allow tourists????


      But that is just me, and l have experienced some seriously weird stuff, that would scare some to death, so it is like water off a ducks back to me.

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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post



        If NASA said tomorrow on all major news stations that Mars had intelligent very advanced life on it, and was more or less another Earth, panic would happen.

        Yeah, panic would happen. World religions could crumble, Trillion dollar arms trade and industry could receive a major blow, Sunnis and Shias might lay down their arms, Jews and Muslims could stop fighting...

        After all, what's the point in fighting petty wars when one realizes we are just a drop in the sea in an infinite universe. Lots of implications. Images like these could become a thing of a past.



        Yeah, there would be panic alright... Panic among the psychopaths running this god forsaken hornets nest we call home. If NASA, governments etc. are hiding something from us regarding alien life, it is not because they are afraid panic might break out among the population but because the ptb and world religions could lose their stranglehold on the world.

        Mind you, the human race is so pathetic, that it wouldn't be long before there was a star of a David flag, a crescent moon, or U.S flag stamped on mars in the minds of Millions.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          Yeah, panic would happen. World religions could crumble, Trillion dollar arms trade and industry could receive a major blow, Sunnis and Shias might lay down their arms, Jews and Muslims could stop fighting...

          After all, what's the point in fighting petty wars when one realizes we are just a drop in the sea in an infinite universe. Lots of implications. Images like these could become a thing of a past.



          Yeah, there would be panic alright... Panic among the psychopaths running this god forsaken hornets nest we call home. If NASA, governments etc. are hiding something from us regarding alien life, it is not because they are afraid panic might break out among the population but because the ptb and world religions could lose their stranglehold on the world.

          Mind you, the human race is so pathetic, that it wouldn't be long before there was a star of a David flag, a crescent moon, or U.S flag stamped on mars in the minds of Millions.
          Yep, you are unfortunately probably right! Sniff!


          I do believe that intelligent life is presently there now, (eventhough l haven't conclusively proven that yet, proven that there is life there now, rather than the distant past).

          And have heard rumors that the US gov, has a base there, with some seriously impressive tech,.

          Also heard all the gold in Fort Knox is there as well; not surprising after the social-paths grew up with Goldfinger, and got scared to death, about the irradiate the gold supply concern!


          But yeah, world religions fall, and the world would be a much uglier place, if that is possible!

          Or as you are saying the social-paths, would lose control!


          But the real reason they don't want to fully disclose this, is because millions would demand disclosure on the energy systems they are using.

          Which is very likely zero point energy based, or something that generates power indefinitely.


          So world religions might fall, and some warring parties would make up, but oil stocks would plummet, and the Stock Market would most likely crash, eventually!


          Full disclosure will occur eventually, and we will be substantially better off as a result, but not after the socialpaths go kicking and screaming into giving up their power and luxury mansions and trips to the 6 star Caribbean resorts, etc!


          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, this is one of the best images l have seen, showing Curiosity's reflection, and after establishing that it is reflective, the martian blue sky and possible white clouds in the background.



            Next one shows a blue sky again and possible cloud.



            As usual l have saved the best til last! :p

            The top left hand image shows this green patch. Grass? Probably just algae again!

            Right hand image shows this structure in the distance, with a possible road leading to it.

            Considering the rectangular shapes it is pushing the rock theory, and is more likely another artificial structure of some kind. Looks like a building?



            Bottom image confirms that Martians must be sports nuts, or the human side?

            Can't make out much, but the depiction of someone running is clearly visible, (arrow) eventhough it is abstract.


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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Oh, hum, another artificial structure and a possible sculpture of the child's face. Usual stuff!!! :rolleyes:

              First off we have the artificial structure that is surprisingly within close proximity to Curiosity, but unfortunately we can only see part of it. Sniff!

              I have to admit that the closest part is probably metallic with an impression in it, but the other shapes could just be rocks?



              The top one is another square mirror, reflecting the blue sky and Curiosity.



              The bottom one by the look of the supports on its base is artificial or hollow.

              But its the child's face that has my interest, (front of rock, left hand side down the bottom).

              I know that natural patterns can create this, but since artificial junk of Mars is very likely, then this needs to be considered.


              The area above its head is likely a dream scape scene, or what he or she is dreaming, there is also another more grown up face on the far left up the top!

              If true we might be looking at what one of the inhabitants did or does look like.

              Obviously human!

              Cool! :p


              Shane

              PS that is all l could make out, if you spot something l missed, please post it here!
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Here you go Sal!



                More green algae on the rocks, the top one might be mineral, but the lower ones certainly aren't.



                This green stuff is literally sticking out from the rock, or moss.


                Another artificial silver structure, and a reflective rock showing part of Curiosity, (bottom of rock) as well as the sun shining off the rock and a blue sky.



                As usual l have saved the best til last!

                First large image shows this artificial, and long structure, with a large window on the left, very likely a hatch in the middle.

                And the black dot on the right is either a window, or Curiosity's reflection of its camera, (when it takes a shot at itself it usually shows the lens as a black area).



                This could be a habitat, but with the window on the end, it is most likely a craft of some kind!

                Cool! :p

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Ok, first is a road, with a possible car?



                  Next is another likely house, which may have a very reflective roof?



                  Next one shows another structure on the hill.

                  Left hand image shows these weird things.

                  And the bottom, right shows another dwelling. This one is interesting since the roof, reflects like a mirror. You can see the surrounding landscape, the blue hills and light blue sky, then above that just make out another martian cloud.

                  What is even more exciting is the fact that the base of this cloud is darker than the top. Let's hope that Curiosity is water proof?



                  Last is the most fascinating.

                  Another artificial structure, or a white or silver sphere, (similar to the one's Curiosity went past) which has a long stem and base.

                  This could be NASA's or another powers, balloon landing on the surface. It uses heat to rise and descent?

                  But since l have seen this before l will stay with a Martian structure!




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  • Profile picture of the author Freeyourtime
    Awsome post. Really like all the pictures in here. Thanks for a really good and informative post. Live long and Prosper...
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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    I see no vegetation other than what might be algae, yet there appear to be Martian bunnies hopping merrily about.

    Wonder what they eat?
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  • Profile picture of the author ConfusedJ
    Whoa... look what was spotted on Mars!

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

      I see no vegetation other than what might be algae, yet there appear to be Martian bunnies hopping merrily about.

      Wonder what they eat?

      Best to take a look at the video, (few posts up) or if you have the time go through the thread.

      There are examples of flower type plants as well as other stuff! Plenty of plant life for small animals to eat! :p


      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      Shane, we've gotta get you a woman.
      LOL, true, but it needs to be someone with an open mind! He, he! :rolleyes:

      Ken; Now you've done it.

      Behave yourself Claude!


      Shane

      PS l did find another rabbit, but it was too pixulated to post, or was to open to being too speculative!
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    And Now for something completely different....

    Atlas V MAVEN • November 18, 1:28 pm ESTMAVEN Mission to Mars
    The Mars Atmosphere and Volatile EvolutioN (MAVEN) mission will explore the Red Planet’s upper atmosphere, ionosphere and interactions with the sun and solar wind.
    Orbiting Mars at various latitudes, the spacecraft will study the Red Planet's atmosphere. Scientists expect to gain insights into how the Martian climate changed over time and to unravel the mystery of why Mars lost its atmosphere.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

      And Now for something completely different....

      Atlas V MAVEN • November 18, 1:28 pm ESTMAVEN Mission to Mars


      MAVEN Magnetometer - YouTube
      Hmmm, the ironic thing about this video is all the images of Mars they show, show an almost zero atmosphere planet, but the background image behind one NASA scientist clearly shows Mount Sharp with an obvious blue sky?????? :confused:

      It seems like officially Mars is dead, but unofficially!

      Or that scientists are trying to get the truth out there, but are bound by NASA red tape.


      Either that or the producer and scientists in the video made a major blunder? They made a serious blunder in 2004 as well?



      In all honesty l don't think that we can seriously discuss anymore, whether or not the truth is being held back, but why is it being held back?


      It seems like NASA scientists are bursting at the seams with all this, but can't do much!


      A bit like Columbus going to the new land and officially we get little useful info, but there is another civilization waiting for public release!


      Shane

      Thanks for sharing that Rob! :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Hmmm, the ironic thing about this video is all the images of Mars they show, show an almost zero atmosphere planet, but the background image behind one NASA scientist clearly shows Mount Sharp with an obvious blue sky?????? :confused:

        It seems like officially Mars is dead, but unofficially!

        Or that scientists are trying to get the truth out there, but are bound by NASA red tape.


        Either that or the producer and scientists in the video made a major blunder? They made a serious blunder in 2004 as well?



        In all honesty l don't think that we can seriously discuss anymore, whether or not the truth is being held back, but why is it being held back?


        It seems like NASA scientists are bursting at the seams with all this, but can't do much!


        A bit like Columbus going to the new land and officially we get little useful info, but there is another civilization waiting for public release!


        Shane

        Thanks for sharing that Rob! :p
        There is no limit to the coverup. NASA has even made it illegal for anyone to have a telescope. OK, it's a legal to have a telescope, but it's illegal to point it at Mars and see the truth. This has led to massive political pressure to confiscate our telescopes. And the Lame Street Media is helping cover it up with these fake "We are looking at Mars" stories.

        Pods! They are replacing us with Pods! Churlish pods.

        By the way, did you know if you look through a telescope from Mars...looking at Earth.... the Earth looks exactly like Mars does, when we look at it?

        How do you science nerds explain that?!

        Don't even think of changing this channel.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          There is no limit to the coverup. NASA has even made it illegal for anyone to have a telescope. OK, it's a legal to have a telescope, but it's illegal to point it at Mars and see the truth. This has led to massive political pressure to confiscate our telescopes. And the Lame Street Media is helping cover it up with these fake "We are looking at Mars" stories.

          Pods! They are replacing us with Pods! Churlish pods.

          By the way, did you know if you look through a telescope from Mars...looking at Earth.... the Earth looks exactly like Mars does, when we look at it?

          How do you science nerds explain that?!

          Don't even think of changing this channel.

          I looked into the seeing the Earth from a similar distance, (real images of Earth) and at the right sun angle, it can make it hard to see the blue atmosphere.

          But taking into account that all NASA sites show up close or at a distance images of Mars without any noticeable blue in the atmosphere, still doesn't provide an adequate answer.


          And 1997 Hubble images create a further divide between blue or not blue?


          The only two possible answers are, incredible stupidity by NASA or coverup?

          I will let the reader decide on which one is more likely!


          Shane



          Remember Claude, "happy thoughts with Martian rabbits"! :rolleyes:

          Or l am only the messenger!


          A NASA official is the one we should be tying up and giving the third degree to!
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, weird stuff is getting a little thin at present, but there is still some!

            This impression on a rock at Mount Sharp. Although hill is probably a better description.



            Then we have some more weird machines or pipes in the distance!



            Hmmm, another house in the shape of,....a bee perhaps???




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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Found another great video, only skimmed a bit, and eventhough some inconsistencies are present, it still looks interesting!

              http://youtu.be/sy0c-EfRhOA

              Shane

              Sorry guys stupid thing won't embed!
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Hmmm, could be another car?

                Polished and seems to have wheels! :p



                Another silver cylinder with openings on one end. And since there could be a structure on the left, l am leaning towards this being a generator!

                No doubt one that generates electricity for the next 1000 years, but still a generator!


                Next one is this building in the shape of a dog!

                Almost thought that it was a Martian Sphinx, but it doesn't quite fit!

                No doubt they came to Earth and snatched a few!

                Hmmmm, after studying it a bit, it could also be a depection of one of the inhabitants.

                If so, humans could be one of the inhabitants, or used to be?



                Another house! Reminds me of the distant Apollo moon Luner Lander images, (similar windows).



                This is where it gets seriously weird!

                Looks like another building in the shape of an animal!:p

                I only say that because the nostrils or positions are exactly where they should be; so it is less likely a reflective rock and more likely something else.

                But with a blue head, it is probably a bit of both!

                Another weird face below!



                Martian Tattoo Parlor?

                Your guess is as good as mine!


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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  More possible signs of water!






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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, first one is probably a rock, but...:rolleyes:

                    it seriously looks like a cow? :confused:



                    Next are the usual martian buildings! :p

                    Top left, looks like another hanger, with transparent material covering some of it.

                    Then we have this weird reflective thing!

                    And the best one, another martian outpost!



                    Odd,s on this is genuine since there are too many straight angles and shapes! And a window on the front with tower on the left back part helps!

                    There also seems to be another smaller structure further up, with windows!

                    Looks like something out of a Science Fiction film!

                    Cool! :p:p


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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Another reflective rock showing part of Curiosity, a gray landscape and blue sky with clouds!



                      Another likely martain building, looks like a block of apartments? :p



                      Then we have this shiny, silver thing in the distance? Doesn't look rock like to me!



                      Another manned vehicle, l know it could be another rover, but the car idea, with a bridge, etc, l will go with manned version!



                      Martian skull? I will go with structure, since one of the nostrils seems to be pushing out smoke or steam!




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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Ok, you have Curiosity, top, right, and what seems like a cloud behind it.

                        Then further left we have these white, black structures?

                        Martian city, town, or factory? :rolleyes:

                        Your guess is as good as mine! :p



                        Second one gets seriously weird!

                        Although the top thing is probably just Curiosity being reflected.

                        This seems to be a head that can rotate on a rock!!!!

                        Artificial of course!



                        A blue version of Santa? Although with his large white teeth, possibly just a Dentist!


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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          You thought that the blue head was cool, l have found something else, even more weird.

                          It is exciting to get a glimpse into an advanced culture, or a bit scary to eavesdrop on an advanced culture that is there now?

                          Ok, first one!



                          Shows these structures in the distance. I doubt that there are many black and white rocks about? :rolleyes:

                          Lower images shows another likely structure, that looks like a martian lizard? I have also seen quite a few of these things that look like letterboxes?



                          Then we have what looks like Luke Skywalkers house in the distance, and more weird buildings.

                          The left hand one, lower, could be a ship, house or vehicle, can't tell, but as you can see from the gleam off the top and the view screen, l doubt that this is a rock only.

                          Now we get to the seriously weird one!

                          Want to know what the latest hair style is on Mars at present or where a decent hair stylist is, here you go!

                          You will have to speak or threaten NASA for the coordinates! :rolleyes:



                          Thing on the right is probably the generator or air intake.

                          You can clearly make out the bowl shape hair cut with green tinge, and going into pink on the left!

                          You can also make out her face and top part of her body!

                          I know that a face may not be a face, but in this instance with all the other elements, it is most likely a Martain barber or hair stylist shop!

                          It is also likely that humans are on, or where on Mars at some point.


                          Is this our fashion style in the year 3015?

                          I hope not!


                          Shane
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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Here you go Sal, found what looks like a crystal tube? :p



                            Crystal or tinted view screen? I will go with view-screen!



                            More green, structures, and the middle image probably shows another human!



                            Cool!


                            Shane
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Ok, more UFO's!

                              Curiosity took two images on both sides of it's chassis, (top is right hand, and the bottom image is the left hand side) showing that these things are following Curiosity and are changing elevation!

                              Probably very quickly!



                              Lower image shows some more possible structures, but one of the UFO's is here as well!



                              If there are UFO's in the Martian sky's, then everything else l have found is plausible!


                              Shane
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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                Could be another martian town, the shard type structures are the most interesting part, (in the distance)!



                                From the looks of the middle rock, (square details or patterns on the base) it could be another structure underneath!

                                Found some other artificial looking buildings, but these were the best! :p


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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  Another likely ring tail possum!

                                  And another very reflective rock?



                                  This is so reflective it looks more like a polished piece of metal warped around something?

                                  Sal might be able to let us know if minerals could do this, but l am guessing it is artificial.

                                  You can see Curiosity, (or part of it) on the middle, right, and it seems to curve around on the left.

                                  The fascinating thing about this is it seems to be cut off, at the edges, like a sheet of metal!

                                  Fascinating! :p


                                  Shane
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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    Ok, l was starting to think twice about sifting through current images, because there is hardly anything there!

                                    But jackpot images, like the one below make it worthwhile.

                                    We have seen rivers and flowing water on Mars, but not really any lakes, til now!!!! :p



                                    The reflections and sheen make this a likely candidate for a martian lake!

                                    The bottom images shows some white or disturbed water, which is probably just some rapids? But who knows! :rolleyes:


                                    Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Originally Posted by Reddy20 View Post

    Amazing pictures. Keep posting..
    Thanks, Reddy20, l will keep running through current images, but suspect that NASA officials are purposefully over saturating us with zero interest images, so images like the likely lake take longer to find!

    Or worse still some give up!

    That is one of my underlining skills, being able to figure out when l am being B***S****, and adjust!

    I found a lot more groundbreaking stuff, last year, so l may still revisit older images, which may have more interesting stuff.

    Or there may be more jackpot images in older Mars rover missions?


    As l said before it is taking me almost 20 images to find one thing worth posting. The early images were, almost one in 7!

    Doesn't really matter whether they are old or new, the house trained media will never directly report it, so, l will keep posting!


    Shane
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      According to NASA that says martian air pressure doesn't allow water on the surface, (it would boil away) this can't be water?



      Or some clear liquid flowing over the martian surface, or something glistening in the sunshine?


      Sure looks like a shallow, clear stream to me! :rolleyes:


      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More possible buildings!



        And this thing throwing up some dust!

        Some more, the lower one almost looks like a castle?



        Another likely building!

        Glad to see anomolie occurrences are picking up!


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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          A square rock with a chess board pattern.



          One of the locals with his face on a rock!



          And this cool one, another likely road with another bridge!

          Why do l say bridge? Take a look at the lower images!

          Three likely water drains below, and this thing even has some sculptures in the rock! :p




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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Bottom pic doesn't look like rock - it looks like junk.

    How much dicking around with the color are you doing on these pics?
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    This thread has been a collosal waste of time and waste of "predictions"...




    Except for this:
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Bottom pic doesn't look like rock - it looks like junk.

      How much dicking around with the color are you doing on these pics?
      Just correcting the color, and pushing the contrast and brightness a little, (makes the details stand out). :rolleyes:

      The original bridge image would be more orange and blurry!

      But you might be right, the top thing might be a structure, and the water outlets could be tinted windows?

      But l have seen traces of dust being thrown about above, so l will stay with a road system!


      Here is the Viking post l did, if anyone hasn't taken a look?

      http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...find-mars.html


      Thanks for everyone's continual interest in this thread. Nice to know that most of the WF members are a pretty clever bunch! He, he!


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, another likely road, and settlement! Some elements here are too abstract or repetitive to be just rocks!

        Half way down on the blown up image, on your right is a good example. Looks like an entrance with a flower like pattern around it!



        Another likely lake nearby! The sheen seen on this, isn't present on other similar colored sand, implying that this is water!

        Some images coming up in my que are darker than normal, which is always exciting, since NASA tends to intentionally darken some of their images more than normal to hide stuff!



        So we have this rock in the distance with 3 oval holes. Almost looks like a building of some kind!

        Another weird building, bottom, right!


        Then this!!!

        A tower with a viewing platform on this weird abstract hill!

        The tower is transparent with coffee squares uniformly placed.

        Definitely not natural!


        If someone who is skeptical of this can explain how a rock can be transparent with uniform colored squares along its frame, we are all ears!


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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, another likely settlement! With this weird tower thing below! :p



          Then we have another house, looks more like a penthouse?

          There even appears to be stairs on the left! :p



          Then this last image that looks like a town?

          Ghostown perhaps?



          These were all taken from darker than normal images!


          The obvious question is why are they darker than most of the other images?

          A cloud blocked the sun,...NASA can't use that one, high altitude clouds don't really do that!

          One of Mars moons, or asteroids did it? Possible, but unlikely!

          NASA did it intentionally as there were to many artificial things about! Yep!


          There was a lot of junk about, l just showed the best bits above!


          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Another day, another house!

            Although this looks more like two silos, and another martian face structure!



            Then another house with a triangular door, maybe a human, but it is probably just some rocks, and this thing on the top, right image.

            That shows what looks like solid silver steps!




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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Ok, this post will confirm once and for all that Mars does have a blue sky, (l will get to that in a moment).

              As well as showing strong supportive evidence that it also has clouds like Earth, or clouds that can block a noticeable amount of sunlight hitting the ground.


              But in the meantime there are the usual Curiosity images.

              First off is this rock reflecting Curiosity and a possible blue sky with clouds in the background. But it could be hill details?



              Might still be a rock, but a rock that looks like bent polished silver, hmmmm! :rolleyes:




              Now we get to the really juicy stuff.

              First images are from NASA Curiosity images of itself, clearly showing a blue sky on the right, (this image isn't color corrected).



              Second one is corrected, but as you can see not much of a difference. Seems like NASA is starting to reduce the BS.



              Then we get to this one of Mount sharp, apparently taller than mount Everest.




              Now NASA carries on this isn't a true depiction, but changed to Earth like lighting, etc.

              But putting that dodgy remark aside, that isn't the reason l posted this!


              Take a look on the right hand side, notice anything???

              Yep, there is a large shadow on the right of this enormous mountain. If this was an Earth image, most would say, oh, right a large relatively thick cloud was passing overhead.

              High altitude clouds would have a hard time creating this, far more likely a relatively thick cloud is overhead, creating a shadow.

              Which isn't supposed to exist on Mars!!!!


              And the sun was setting behind the crater rim answer, can't be used, since the shadows show that the sun was slightly on the right of this mountain


              If Earth like clouds are on Mars then it opens up rain clouds, etc!


              At the very least we can all agree now that Mars does have a relatively blue sky!


              And that there is good evidence that it also has Earth like clouds!

              Cool! :p


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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Ok, another likely watering hole, structure and this thing that looks like a gopher depiction on an upside down drop pattern. Glad to see that they have a sense of humor, (or used to).



                Next image shows this path or dry stream? Whatever this is there are no rocks, etc on the path



                Last image shows this weird thing!

                The top white structures are pushing the rock theory, so this is more likely another piece of Martian junk or structure!




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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
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    • Profile picture of the author Midnight Oil
      Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post

      Life on Mars or just another scam?

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      Damn possums.
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        Yep, covered that one a while ago, it is a structure depicting a lizard, at best guess?

        The back part is hollow with what looks like a road of some kind!

        Martians are or were seriously into buildings depicting animals, etc!

        A bit like Queenslanders! :rolleyes: Big Pinapple, etc.


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          Oh, hum, another day another house!

          There appears to be a river nearby, (most things that look like dwellings are near water).



          Although with the triangular window, and tinted window glass glaring the sun off, odd's on this is genuine.



          Then we have this thing that looks artificial, but it is the rectangular shapes with white on top and a darker color on the bottom, that caught my interest.

          Especially when this doesn't occur in most images l have scoured across.

          Good chance one or both of these shapes are humans looking back at Curiosity, pity they didn't wave!!!! :rolleyes:


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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, nothing much today, just the usual Martian base and town!



            A couple of weird things here, the lower image looks like reflective, bent metal? :p



            Then we have these structures in the side of the hill!

            The middle one shows the sun reflecting off what looks like tinted glass!



            Then we have the coolest one!

            Bottom image looks like dust being thrown around.

            Middle is another structure. Then this!

            I can't be certain that the middle one is a tower? But the one on the right is!

            I doubt that there are many rectangular rocks with a checkerboard pattern on it! :rolleyes:




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              Ok, may have hit the jackpot today!

              Or found traces of a dead forest and Palm type trees?

              You be the judge!


              Top image shows the forest. I don't know whether these are dead trees? They are green, so they are something living. Could just be more moss, etc.



              Bottom images may show the palms?

              Very hard to tell whether this is a background thing or upright trees?

              The long shadow seems to hint at it being tall, but no guarantees.

              Hopefully l will find some more, he, he!


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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Ok, first image is just some sharp rocks, but there are a lot of perfect square shapes around, so! :rolleyes:


                The image on the right seems to be a martian message?

                I can make out, "Ho, Ho", with some martian face sculptures here and there!

                Glad to see that they aren't some evil warlike race, or used to be?



                Second image very likely shows some water flowing into a shallow creek or gulley.

                If true, rain is the most likely cause. :p




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                  Could be showing a cloudy sky, Curiosity's reflection is right!



                  Seems to be a sculpture depicting a face. One of the top antennas go outside the rock!

                  The other design is showing a 3 petal design, which l have seen here and there!



                  Another weird sculpture on a rock, and another structure, with the left hand tower collapsing!



                  Last one looks like some Polar bears?

                  I would normally dismiss these, but the left hand one, turning his head has me hooked! :p

                  Could be some of those Byson type creatures someone else saw?



                  Well that is it for this bunch, l will have to load some more when l can!

                  Stay tuned! :rolleyes:


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shane - it's not a secret that they've found water ice on Mars. However - if you remember correctly - water needs to be unfrozen to thaw. If it's below freezing on the surface, that ice ain't meltin'.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Shane - it's not a secret that they've found water ice on Mars. However - if you remember correctly - water needs to be unfrozen to thaw. If it's below freezing on the surface, that ice ain't meltin'.

      NASA did spot early morning frosts on the surface when Spirit and Opportunity were moving across the surface.

      They said that it boiled away when the sun thawed it out, (relating to Mars air pressure being ours at 30,000 feet).

      Or liquid water can't exist at those pressures!


      These are the same people that say Mars atmosphere is 97% Carbon Dioxide!

      Eventhough their latest Curiosity images, (see that a few posts up) showing Curiosity taking a shot of itself, clearly show a blue sky!

      A blue sky is created by at least 20% Oxygen molecules!


      If NASA data were right, then we would barely see any blue. Although if their data on air pressure were right, we would mainly see a black sky!


      I am not sure if it can be created by mainly CO2, but the scientist didn't mention that?


      I take what NASA says with a grain of salt, since they have covered up the sky color with incompetence stretching over almost 40 years, or intentionally done so.

      Hard to believe they would stuff up for that long, unless they got spooked with Viking images and hushed it up ever since!


      The image l found of a pool of water over a white rock is undeniable, as well as the other ones.

      True it could be some exotic liquid that can handle the pressure, but water is the most likely source.


      Based on what l have found so far, l tend to believe that the part Curiosity is driving through is more like a desert. Freezing at night, and warm to possibly hot during the day!


      Simple microbes could cope with 30,000 feet air pressure at ground level, but complex ones, unlikely!


      True some of the images l have found that look like water could be sand, although the question arises, what caused the sand to move in that way?

      But as l said before the first images l found of water, (or clear liquid) are conclusive.


      Regardless of what this liquid is, it should have been front page news by now, but nothing!

      Not hearing a peep from the media, raises more questions than it answers!


      I can't believe that the media around the planet, are that stupid, or would ignore this!


      It is more likely they are dying to print this, but don't want to bring on the wrath of their gov, pulling some perks or funding, which would effectively kill their business.


      This kind of media manipulation has happened in AU, "print what l want, and you will have exclusive rights to me"!

      True they have seen snow at the polar regions, which supposedly boils away before it hits the ground. But they have also seen water droplets on the legs of the last probe to land there.

      Which isn't supposed to exist, especially when condensation would have an uphill battle forming very salty water droplets, (the only thing that could exist at those pressures).


      There are several other examples l could give to show NASA data is dodgy, but everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe.


      For me if it looks like a duck,......


      But that is not everyone's style or preference! :rolleyes:


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, downloaded some more, and found some more exciting stuff! :p

        This is probably just Curiosity's reflection in a rock, or something else?



        The next one, l initially saw this weird animal looking thing on the right, then saw some more of these dark, white blurs, which looked like humans?

        I have to admit that the bottom one might be a rock, but the enlarged one seriously looks like a man with a child on his knee, or a man with a woman?

        Impossible to be sure, but certainly compelling! :p




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          Ok, usual stuff, a few life forms, sculptures and trees or structures. :p

          First one is probably a fluke of foreground and background rocks, but it looked like a sculpture initially!:rolleyes:



          This is probably Curiosity's mast giving the impression of a white creature looking back at us, or hiding behind a rock; by reflecting that part?

          Least l am reasonably sure? :rolleyes:


          Then we have this!

          Another reflective rock showing Curiosity on the right, and the blue horizon on the left.

          But there also appears to be these tall, mushroom type structures? Buildings probably, or even trees of some kind?


          Either way it is a pretty cool find!

          But it gets better.....



          Next we have this!

          This seriously looks like a small creatures that resembles a rock, eating or sniffy something?

          And the rock next to it, that looks like a tool made an half hole in it only add's to the mystery.




          There could even be another martian face sculpture on this rock.


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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, we will go from scary to sweet.

            This took some time to figure out, but the thing on the left appears to be an alien or hybrid with a stunned look on its face, (l bet).

            Considering he is sitting down with dark boots and one of his arms crossed over, makes this a pretty serious contender for intelligent life being there now. :rolleyes:



            Next one shows some more water. I double checked this to make sure it wasn't just some sand that looks like a flow.

            Sand doesn't reflect, but this does, (the white rock reflecting itself off the water is the most obvious one.

            And there is also a white pipe going through some rock! :p



            Last one shows what looks like a feral cat sitting on a rock, (no wonder there are no rabbits to be found)?

            And another statue!

            This seriously looks like rusted metal, or possibly bronze!




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              First one is seriously weird; looks like a 4 legged robot with a Curiosity type mast? The aliens version of Curiosity perhaps?



              Next is the usual water flows; but the bottom image might show some creatures taking a drink. Or it is just some rocks?



              Ok, last one shows creatures, structures and a happy face depection, (glad to know they do or did have a sense of humor!

              The middle image shows a building with a drum type format. Obviously not natural!



              Went through 12 images for these, so the rate of discovery seems to be increasing again! :p


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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Ok, more cool stuff.

                First one shows these markers; the first two aren't rocks, but the last 2 might be. :rolleyes:

                Then a sun pattern, ( 2 colors) and a green rock! Could be jade, but? :rolleyes:



                Next one shows something waving back!



                The next one is pretty exciting! :p

                We get a taste of Mars real sky. You can see the Earth like clouds in the distance on this reflective rock. And for the skeptics, Curiosity's reflection is on the right, and any sun sheen is also on the right.

                This is the best piece of evidence yet to prove the Earth like clouds and rain theory! :p



                Next one shows another silver structure, and possibly another reflective rock showing a small town of these dwellings. Well likely, it is showing that?

                I kept this one their color, since it shows more!



                I am wrapped with the last one, finally found another rabbit!

                Well likely martian rabbit!



                No real surprise that Mars has a sky like ours and water on it surface.

                The real surprise is how NASA has BS us for so long, and got away with it.

                But l suppose they are making amends, with these images!



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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Weirder and weirder!

                  Another reflective rock, but this one is showing this tuning fork type structure.

                  Might be part of Curiosity, but Curiosity is white, so it doesn't explain this rusted thing? :p

                  A hollow star door in a rock, skeptics must be groaning by now!



                  Another energy field, you can tell from the watery ripple effect!

                  Curiosity's reflection, and this thing.

                  This rock is suspended by a thin rock, but it has triangular windows, etc. So it is probably hollow!

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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    As far as l can tell the lower image shows some storm clouds in the sky. And the first, shows Curiositys mast, (white thing in the middle) Mount Sharp in the distance and a typical blue sky.

                    But take a closer look, apart from the edges of this rock being in a zig-zag pattern, it also shows a shadow at the base of this enormous mountain.

                    Mars doesn't have clouds thick enough to do that! :rolleyes:

                    Seems more and more likely Mars sky is just like ours! :p



                    Seriously looks like a human is kneeling and looking into a pond!



                    I dismissed Curiosity being this since it hasn't any blue color on it and also that it is most likely in the distance, (see the white mast, etc in the distance).

                    If this is Curiosity's mirror, then the obvious question is what is the white structure in the background?

                    Seems like l have Checkmated the skeptics with this one! :p


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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Another reflective rock, this one is pretty good! :p



                      I have put small allows where Curiosity's front wheels are, but it is the long shadow and white structures to the right, that has me stoked!

                      Considering how long the shadow is, this thing is really high, and is a cylinder shape, or pole shaped.


                      Another classic example of Curiosity driving past some alien structure and removing all images relating to it!

                      We can only get a glimpse is this conspiracy through reflective rocks like this.

                      The team that sifts through all these images, must be blown away with what they have to bury.

                      No doubt close up images of flowing water, simple life forms in that water, and alien structures to mention a few!

                      Hellva job, but no doubt frustrating!


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                      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
                        Shane

                        Although most of these pics are fuzzy and out of focus I do find the odd interesting one now and again. Keep looking.

                        I do observe however the scale of this stuff. Roads, houses and bridges, creatures what ever we are possibly looking at has to be relatively small. It would be quite logical that if there were artifacts, creatures, even humanoids lurking about, due to the size of Mars, it would have to be on a lot smaller scale.

                        Nature has a way of scaling up or down creatures of occupation based on the planets size and gravity, conditions etc. If a set of creatures had thrived on an isolated island they are likely smaller in stature. The recent discovery of the aptly named hobbit humanoids on earth on an island and the fossils of other creatures there showed this to be true.

                        The famous picture of the so-called humanoid (or statue) striding accross the Martian surface for example, it was an inch tall.

                        So we have the prospect here of tiny humans and tiny creatures, tiny civilsations etc.

                        Frighteningly that makes the famous fluffy bunny pic a huge creature.
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                          Thanks, lanfear63 nice to have some intelligent feedback and encouragement. :p

                          And the last image probably shows a ditch rather than a shadow, that Curiosity is positioned over, but the white structure in the distance is still a mystery.


                          But getting back to scale, that is a tough one to answer.

                          Sometimes Curiosity takes images that stretch back a good 5 k's, (first images of Mount Sharp when it landed showed that), but it looks at lot closer!

                          Then when Curiosity points its cameras down, it gives the impression that things are closer, eventhough that may not be the case!

                          Mars does have a blue hue for distant objects, but NASA tends to move the camera all over the place, so as to not to pick up on that, which makes judging scale a bit trickier than usual.


                          Maybe l got the scale all wrong for some things l have spotted?

                          That is why l tend to download distant camera angle shots, (if l see a distant rabbit, odd's on it is to scale).

                          If l saw a rabbit near one of Curiosity's wheels or tracks, then it is probably the size of my fist, (still possible, but less likely).


                          But of course a distant image of a house, with a front door, details, etc is a slam dunk in my book!:p


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                            Nothing much today, blue hills and a possible Greek God type face in a rock! :rolleyes:

                            We get a rare glimpse of what Mars really looks like, because of the BS around air pressure, etc.

                            Parts of Curiosity are in the foreground with a blue landscape behind.

                            Curiosity never takes shots with blue tinges directly!



                            Another one showing Curiosity's chassis and wheels in the foreground with a blue backdrop.



                            Then we have this!!! :p

                            Yeah, l know, it is a face, etc. But it does seriously look like a Greek God, or Nordic type face?



                            Maybe this is just a fluke, but maybe it is genuine, and showing us Mars distant history!

                            If this is genuine, then we may have developed on both planets, or when tech, developed enough traveled between both?

                            At least until the disaster happened to Mars atmosphere!

                            But any speculation is all up in the air at the moment!


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Just one today, seriously looks like a truck driving alone a dirt road!



        I checked further along, and none of the other rocks threw up dust like this!

        Very hard to tell whether there is motion blur, but l did see other things that looked like roads and maybe one car.


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          Another day! :rolleyes:

          Found this reflective thing!



          Might be natural or it might be an air intake valve?




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            I initially thought that this was water, but the white thing has my attention.



            I thought that the next one was a rabbit, but l think that it is just a very reflective rock! Sniff! :rolleyes:






            Looks like another weird sculpture! :p Tinted screen windows above, and a octagonal shape below. Considering this could be near water and it looks like the face is blowing, might be a fan of some kind?

            Although with that level of tech, it could be anything? :rolleyes:

            It seem more and more likely that the Beagle probe either landed near something like this or on top of it, and they had to hush it up!



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              Weird rocks, and this thing on the right!

              Seriously looks like someone took that rock and made impressions in a straight line.

              There was nothing similar in this area.

              I tried to find some footprints, but nothing. Maybe its the ? that threw the rock? :rolleyes:




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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Some more weird stuff, first off is this rock that looks like a skull? But if you look hard enough, it is just Curiosity's reflection! :rolleyes:

                The rock next to it, with a flat, raised base is more interesting though! :p

                The reflective rock below these, is fascinating, it shows Curiosity's mast or twin camera lenses, with the sun streaming behind the hilltop!



                Next one seems to be another anomaly; it seems that someone drew a clock face into this rock?

                I know it could be natural, or it is someone or something leaving clues alone Curiosity's path?



                Only a matter of time before we have full disclosure, so someone is trying to soften the blow!

                But unfortunately it has to be suttle, so it can get past NASA's screening crew! Sniff!


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                  Alien sculpture or rock? Then below that more likely drawings on a rock.

                  Then the thing on the left, probably just a very reflective rock distorting Curiosity's reflection.

                  On another alien artifact! :p



                  I have seem very reflective pebbles in the area, so l unfortunately am leaning more towards this being a seriously cool illusion!


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                      I am becoming more and more convinced that there are humans on Mars. Check these out!


                      First off is this distant thing that seriously looks like a car throwing up dust? Well there are two of them!

                      And a graded surface, and possibly another water outlet?

                      Flat surface and something that appears to be moving throwing up dust. Looks pretty convincing to me! :p



                      Then we have this! :rolleyes:

                      Some humans going on an outing?

                      Could be! Can't be sure about the car, but the thing that looks like a person with a white singlet with tanned arms and face with someone older, (gray hair) is pretty good evidence.



                      By itself, it could be dismissed, but with all the other related pieces of evidence, worth serious consideration.


                      The ironic thing about all this is we can at least agree that Mars throws up dust; but according to NASA Mars atmosphere cannot throw dust up into the air, the air pressure isn't capable of doing that.

                      I won't go into dust devils throwing up dust and cleaning the past rovers solor panels, etc.

                      But it is pretty obvious that Mars air pressure is much lower, well it has to be to support water on the surface, (l have found plenty of that).


                      Clearly a coverup!


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                        More dirt roads, or if not, when how were they created? Doesn't look natural to me! :rolleyes:



                        This is interesting, looks like dead trees near this rock, (above silver rock).

                        One or possibly two are or have grown in front of background rocks, confirming that this isn't a visual ground trick.

                        Could be our first look at possible tree life on Mars, helps confirm the YT, videos showing forests!



                        This stuff helps support the idea of humans from Earth on Mars!

                        A civilization that was 1000 or more years ahead of us, wouldn't have dirt roads' but if the US, threw 100,000 Earthlings there, so when the world finds out, the US would have first dibs on the land makes sense.


                        Still hard to believe, but the available evidence is mounting!


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      Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post

      Did you take the blue pill from the 9 o'clock nurse? It will help you sleep, and don't fret, the little green men will still be here when you wake up.
      LOL, you mean...Martian fluffy rabbits, (corrected)! He, he! :rolleyes:


      Yeah, l know it sounds far fetched, but l will keep my, "I Told You So" post on standby! Sign.....


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, some plants this time!

        Well, later on.

        First off is this structure with tinted glass. And next to it, is this silver thing!

        Building or sculpture at best guess?

        Below that shows Curiosity below, and a possible rain cloud above, but don't fret, l have found better ones. :p


        Yep, had a rethink, this is Curiosity's reflection unfortunately, but you can still get a glimpse of Mars clouds!



        Top, this weird white green thing. Another possible human face, and the rest are very reflective rocks.

        The bottom, right and top, left ones are my favorites.

        The bottom one, looks like Earth's sky, and the top, left one, is clearly a panel showing Mars sky with some clouds!

        Cool!



        Last one shows the plants. Even with the raw image the green is clearly visible. And there are 3 different green colors here, pushing the oxidizing iron rock theory, l think?:rolleyes:




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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Another dwelling!

          The front door is a dead giveaway!



          Then we have another pyramid, certainly add's credibility to the Sedona, pyramid theory!

          You can clearly see the main entrance and symbol above it.

          With another structure on the left!



          Just imagine, if Curiosity didn't avoid all this stuff, we might be getting HD closeup images of Massive ancient pyramids on Mars, with symbols here and there!

          Boggles the imagination!

          Lets just hope that the 3rd party rover lands near this, in the near future?


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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, first off is some martian mist!

            And some more water, you can tell by the fact that it is partially covering the rock on the right!

            Whenever Curiosity's images get this dark there is usually something interesting to see!



            Then we have what looks like a town on the hill, well mountain!



            Why do l think that it is a town, probably because of this artificial building further down, and the fact that there were more UFO's in the sky, (didn't bother posting those, same old Martian UFO's)!


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    Top pic in 459 -- that white line is interesting. If you look at the whole pic, you'll see a ridge of rock there all across the picture. What it looks like is either calcification or halite/borax type deposits. You'll see those in arid areas on earth, too.

    Why is that interesting? Because if that is what they are, even if the area is arid now, it took some form of liquid to produce them. On earth, that's water.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Top pic in 459 -- that white line is interesting. If you look at the whole pic, you'll see a ridge of rock there all across the picture. What it looks like is either calcification or halite/borax type deposits. You'll see those in arid areas on earth, too.

      Why is that interesting? Because if that is what they are, even if the area is arid now, it took some form of liquid to produce them. On earth, that's water.
      Cool, l have noticed other whitish rocks in the area, but only from one side.

      I assumed that since it was getting dark, and cold, that some frost was developing here and there.

      Nothing new, since the previous rovers saw frost on most mornings, but of course mist might be pushing it?


      Does that mean water created this recently or in the distant past?


      Since l found a pool of water in this image, it certainly add's credibility to this being liquid water rather than some exotic liquid.


      Certainly if Mars has an atmosphere similar to ours and water, then it opens up Pandora's box to other things!


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        :rolleyes::rolleyes:YAY-FINALLY!:rolleyes::rolleyes:!

        This is now the most viewed post on the WF Off Topic!

        Just beat the Sticky, by a few posts! :p


        My thanks to everyone who keeps taking a peep, and is open minded enough to consider my theory's!

        Or to seriously consider an image at face value, and not dismiss anything viable on the grounds that it is too scary to handle!

        I don't hold back here, because l think that we have had enough of that sort of crap from NASA!


        And to the skeptics, you are outnumbered! A few against almost 30,000!


        Rest assured l will keep posting. I am fairly far back with the Curiosity Rover Raw images, but will do my best to try to get on top of them!


        I can only hope that l will find another skeptic cringing slam dunk image like the house one l found a while ago!

        And more Martian Fluffy bunnies of course! He, he! :p


        Thanks guys!


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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          More likely buildings!



          Then a small village with two likely humans looking back at Curiosity. Obviously impossible to confirm, but the blue pants, white shirts and tanned arms, make it likely!

          Look Mom, the stupid humans rover!!!! :rolleyes:



          More likely water flows and artificial structures nearby.

          Interesting thing about this one, is there are rapids before the waterfall, so there is quite a lot of water on Mars if you look in the right places!



          Last ones shows this possible freeway going into mount sharp. Or this seriously looks like a large tunnel entrance?



          The infrastructure seems to be to extensive for a handful of humans that recently got plopped there, seems more likely intelligent life has been there for some time!


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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Another likely car. Probably because it is too far away for it to be Curiosity's white reflection.

            And it has a windscreen.

            And too many straight lines.

            As well as the fact that it is on a level strip of ground.



            Can't tell whether it has wheels or not. But it unfortunately probably has!

            Pity the side is blurred; maybe a Martian Pizza delivery van? :rolleyes:


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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              There seem to be stairs on this one, leading to this triangular thing! Alter, or monument? :rolleyes:

              And a sculptured rock!



              Next two are pretty exciting, first is this pool of water, and some weird white things sticking out of the water, (see reflections).

              Above that is a dam!!!

              I didn't notice at first, but the reflections are there.

              The last image on the right shows some objects in the now dry creek bet.



              Last one shows the usual roads and possible martian looking back at us, (wearing a space suit).

              Then we get a rare glimpse of a possible freeway, with the checkerboard type transparent sign being the giveaway.



              Cool! :p


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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                More likely structures!



                This is weird, looks like a smiley face on Mars! I am trying to figure out whether it is Curiosity's reflection or martians with a sense of humor?



                last one is the coolest, and either way it at least proves that mars has dust! According to NASA, reports on Mars supposed air pressure, there should be no airborne dust!

                So assuming that Mars air pressure is much lower, then this add's to the growing body of evidence that there is intelligent life on Mars.

                Things that throw up dust are usually moving, and for the skeptics, if it was just a windy day, then the large rock in the same area would do likewise; but zero dust from that!

                Hell via place for dune buggy's!




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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Doesn't look like a rock to me? :p




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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, got lucky today, found a human waving back!

                    Well a human, waving back or stretching, with his car on the right! Cool! :p


                    Hard to say whether or not the car is facing at us or on a side.

                    And then another bridge, this one does have water flowing underneath.

                    Then we have this massive wall in the distance, with a large opening or door of some kind. And another structure. The wall is most likely another dam! :p




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            • Profile picture of the author Dykwia
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post





              Shane

              Well Shane, you did not miss the car, just the model ;p
              Right bottom of your pic, compared to what i could linkhotten from the Google;-)

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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Niah, l thought it might be a futuristic one of these!




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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  More likely structures on the horizon; granted you could say that the left hand side ones are rocks, but the right hand one??? :rolleyes:

                  A pink polished rock, sitting on a base of some kind?

                  Considering that this is a good 2,3 km's away at least, a giant martian stadium is the most likely answer!

                  Or a 5 storey giant pink, polished rock?:rolleyes:

                  I will stay with the stadium! :p



                  Below is this obvious artificial thing! :p

                  I had to push the contrast, to get to this level of detail, but clearly not a rock, and not Curiosity's reflection, (too far away). Clearly cylindrical, sitting on legs and maybe an antenna on top!

                  Since this appears to be near a structure, probably a zero point power unit?


                  Pity we couldn't send a cheap camera to Mars, on a parachute, and hope that it lands near something interesting!



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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, usual stuff today, martian roads, bridges and lakes!
                    Possibly a forest, but probably not!

                    Top image shows the likely bridge, white stone with something sticking up in the middle, maybe an arch?

                    Well, the road goes through this thing, so a bridge is likely.
                    Bottom images show the usual cars, and dust!



                    Bottom image shows this lake, but on closer inspection it looks more like a dam with the water level seriously low, (white edges of dam).

                    It is hard to see, but there is muddy water at the base, (reflection).

                    It seems like the inhabitants, ditched this one for the bigger catchment further on your right, (that was the likely rapids, waterfall covered previously, and artificial structure).



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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      First off is this writing, l could only make out R2, but if it is from Star Wars, then it certainly helps confirm that there is something there now!

                      The second one, does too, with this enormous structure in the distance. Looks like a giant head sculpture? Well, giant head in front of a huge glasshouse?
                      Pretty hard to dismiss this as a rock!





                      Doesn't look like a rock to me, looks more like a house with a driveway!



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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Another building, too far away to be Curiosity's, reflection, and it has a front door, as well as an intricate pattern on the right.
                        Another waving Gorilla restaurant perhaps?



                        Might be like Mc Donalds? Hopefully they use real food?

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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, we have artificial stuff, and Mars sky with clouds!



                          Then we have more reflective rocks, with Curiosity on the right, and a sky with clouds overhead! Maybe storm clouds?



                          The last one shows some more muddy water flows! The interesting thing about this one is it doesn't look like a fresh flow of water, or more likely some large animal has messup up the flow by leaving footprints!

                          I know it sounds nuts, but l used to live on a farm and saw this sort of thing all the time, when the cows had a drink and moved on!
                          If small animals are there, then it is possible!



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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            Ok, another house and what looks like a giant statue of a robot!



                            Another drelling or rock? But the lower one is interesting; it is either a plant or mineral deposit of some kind?

                            Whatever it is it appears to be freestanding.

                            Any ideas Sal?



                            Last one shows that artificial thing sitting on a base of some kind. UFO, robot or something else? The odd's are against this being a rock!



                            The lower image shows Curiositys reflection, (right) the blue hills in the background, and what appears to be a slightly yellow cloud!

                            Martian dust perhaps?

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Cool, l have noticed other whitish rocks in the area, but only from one side.

        I assumed that since it was getting dark, and cold, that some frost was developing here and there.

        Nothing new, since the previous rovers saw frost on most mornings, but of course mist might be pushing it?


        Does that mean water created this recently or in the distant past?


        Since l found a pool of water in this image, it certainly add's credibility to this being liquid water rather than some exotic liquid.


        Certainly if Mars has an atmosphere similar to ours and water, then it opens up Pandora's box to other things!


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        Not sure how long a coat of something would last, or if it would eventually just crumble off. If it's calcium deposit, it could last until someone hit it with acid. Also - I can't say that water is the only liquid that would melt some minerals and form deposits on rocks.....I know squat about chemistry. I'm also not sure that water is the only liquid up there. I thought there was another one.

        Anyhow - just because a rock is white, doesn't mean there's a deposit on it either. There might be quartz or some other white mineral. I just noted it because the whole ridge looks like it's got that same white coating that some of the rock ridges out here in the west have. I already saw enough of that rock to know they have agate/chalcedony up there. That means silicone. Some of the shiny rock - if it's a little bit bluish in real color, could be a coating of Molly B, too. (molybdenum). I saw a pic that looked like a field of rock coated with it, but can't be sure if it was true color or what.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    BTW - NASA had a pic of something really strange. The rover was just parked and one day a "rock" appeared that wasn't there before. They had pics of it. I blew one up and that was not a rock but I couldn't tell if it was mechanical or organic. Did you see the pic of that thing? I'm going to have to look that story back up and see what happened with that one....if the "rock" moved again or disappeared.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Not sure how long a coat of something would last, or if it would eventually just crumble off. If it's calcium deposit, it could last until someone hit it with acid. Also - I can't say that water is the only liquid that would melt some minerals and form deposits on rocks.....I know squat about chemistry. I'm also not sure that water is the only liquid up there. I thought there was another one.

      Anyhow - just because a rock is white, doesn't mean there's a deposit on it either. There might be quartz or some other white mineral. I just noted it because the whole ridge looks like it's got that same white coating that some of the rock ridges out here in the west have. I already saw enough of that rock to know they have agate/chalcedony up there. That means silicone. Some of the shiny rock - if it's a little bit bluish in real color, could be a coating of Molly B, too. (molybdenum). I saw a pic that looked like a field of rock coated with it, but can't be sure if it was true color or what.
      Yes, l have seen a lot of white rocks here and there, some are highly reflective and some not. And some look like twisted solid silver.

      If the bridge l found above is similar to the previous one, then they used blocks of whitish rocks to build it with. Similar to Sandstone.

      I know that this discussion sounds a little nutty, but l think that we both know that there is at the very least ancient junk on Mars at present! :p

      Let me know if there are any rocks you would like me to post and l will keep an eye out for it. I mainly go for artificial, water or fluffy bunnies! He, he!


      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      BTW - NASA had a pic of something really strange. The rover was just parked and one day a "rock" appeared that wasn't there before. They had pics of it. I blew one up and that was not a rock but I couldn't tell if it was mechanical or organic. Did you see the pic of that thing? I'm going to have to look that story back up and see what happened with that one....if the "rock" moved again or disappeared.
      Yep, someone posted that on 417, although we did cover that in another thread somewhere? Looked a bit like a mobile phone that was chewed up and spit out by a large dog! :rolleyes:


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        You are going to love these Sal, found another generator!

        This one has better details than the first one l found a while ago1 :p


        First off we have a mining operation! The road or path going into the opening gave it away. And the white square rock with possible tinted window.

        Then the rest are Curiosity's reflection showing a cloud in the background.

        The interesting thing about these are the 2 reflective rocks show the same cloud, so it isn't something on the rock. And it shows a white cloud with dark gray base, so just as l always suspected, it rains on Mars!

        The right hand one, shows Curiosity, (left) and possible building right? :p



        Next one shows more weird stuff, and another one of these martian flat rocks, (well it looks flat?).

        The thing below that is a jackpot find! :p An artificial structure hidden by another invisibility cloak. The sun shining off the top of this thing gives it away.

        Also when you look at the right hand panel, you can see in the landscape being reflected back, a red pole, (Curiosity definitely doesn't have red on it. And some strange plant like thing sticking up, (you can see it against the blue hills and sky). Might be a tree like thing?

        But regardless, the red thing is probably the first real piece of concrete evidence to show there is artificial stuff on Mars.



        Last one shows another bridge, hard to see, but it is going over a river, (l spotted water up further).

        Then you have Curiosity's reflection, again, structures, and another generator! This one has much better detail, and l put Curiosity's reflection in with these to show that it isn't Curiosity's robotic arm.

        This is another likely artificial device! Cool! :p




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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          More cool stuff! :rolleyes:

          First off is this weird hole in the side of the dune?

          I thought that it might have been created by one of Curiosity's wheels getting bogged, but if that was the case then the side impression would be flattened, (Curiosity weights half a ton).

          Fluffy bunnies hard at work? :rolleyes:



          Second one shows the usual road systems, triangular drainage below it, and a car or truck throwing up some dust behind it.

          Normally we could say it is a reflective rock rolling down the hill, but when combined with a abnormally flat surface, etc, it becomes more plausable. The motion blur helps as well.

          The lower image might be more humans, but impossible to be sure?



          The last one is the best of all, obvious drainage in the side of the rock or hill. Looks like cement?

          And this seriously cool thing next to it. Looks like an ancient Martian temple! :p

          Complete with a staircase!




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    Too bad you couldn't post the lights emanating form the interior...
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    post 474 - is that a joke? Where did that picture come from? Is that from NASA or is someone just dicking around? Is that picture on an official website somewhere?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      post 474 - is that a joke? Where did that picture come from? Is that from NASA or is someone just dicking around? Is that picture on an official website somewhere?
      No, from the site l got from someone else's post, the link is below the image.


      Can't say if it is genuine or not, but since this guy has gone to prison, etc for hacking into NASA's database, it is probably legit!

      Certainly very difficult to fake or Photoshop on, with that level of realism.


      I have my doubts that l could pull it off, and l have years of experience, or can produce high end stuff!


      Not impossible, but unlikely without noticing some iffy parts!


      Shane



      Had another look at this photo, it seems there is other weird junk in the area!

      NASA personnel must be working overtime with all the Photoshop fiddling they have to do!

      It is unfortunately a lot easier to use the background to erase some artifact, but a lot harder to paste something it, and make it look real!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Speaking of fiddling, l found a cube rock, with obvious Photoshopping on it!

        They seemed to put a box over Curiosity's reflection; probably worried that people would suss out that the gray, shaded part is the sky! That is the last one!

        This one has the usual water or rapids and this weird rock reflecting back what is in front of it! Whatever it is??? :rolleyes:



        Next one is the cube rock with obvious fiddling by NASA staff! Always guessed they censored images or fiddled with them!



        Although the social media could see a pool of water on Mars and avoid publicly announcing it!

        They have been well trained!


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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          That's an interesting cube object. Very unusual. Also notice what looks like clouds in the sky in this NASA red tinted picture.
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          • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
            Another interesting vid about Mars true colors, in particular the sky. Includes some large amateur telescopes shots and footage, notice the blue tinge in the atmosphere.

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

            That's an interesting cube object. Very unusual. Also notice what looks like clouds in the sky in this NASA red tinted picture.
            Yep, pretty obvious that Mars sky is more like Earths than we are led to believe!


            There are too many puddles and water about for it all to be underground springs!


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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Ok, found the cube rock again, this time no Photoshopping!

              But l did find something pretty exciting! :p

              Those UFO's we have seen on the horizon, l may have found a close up of one of them.



              It seems to be over a very reflective panel of some kind, with the sun behind it, and a shadow on some of the panel.

              This could be an artificial machine of some kind, or fixed, but since it is self contained, and seems to have a window up top l will stay with this being one of those UFO's.

              Good supportive evidence for intelligent advanced life being there now. At least 1000 years from the look of this spacecraft! :rolleyes:


              Definitely isn't Curiosity! This is reflective and an egg shape! :p





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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                More obvious signs of green algae! The ironic thing about this stuff, is it is more obvious on the dodgy image than the corrected one! :p

                I have seen a green color on the surrounding hills, but this is blatantly obvious!


                This is after Curiosity detected no Methane in the surrounding atmosphere! :rolleyes:

                I wish NASA would cut the crap and level with humanity!



                Another river, you can tell by the edges being corroded away! There are also darker blurry things in front of this river, could it be trees? :p

                Too hard to tell from this distance?




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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by rwbovee View Post

      Seems like a lot of waste of money.
      True, we spend a good billion on this rover, and it conveniently drives past the very stuff it should be taking a closer look at!


      In the meantime the scientists that work for NASA try to release what the can without getting the boot, and the US military run the whole show!

      Probably explains why obvious cracks start to show behind their lies and what is real!


      Also explains why the eyes of the scientists that give a press release seem to say, "we can't say what is really there, this is the best you will get from us"!


      This will go down as the greatest conspiracy off all time, when the truth comes out!


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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Another house; this is too far away to be Curiosity's reflection!



        And this weird sculpture, which is free standing from the shadow it is casting!

        Well, one of many weird things in this enlargement! :p


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  • Profile picture of the author Dykwia
    Damn Shane, you are one persistent guy. Kudos!

    I wandered in here, saw it was from 2012. Went straight from 2012 (page 1) to 2014 (last page) and Bang!, there you still are, still going strong haha.

    Great topic, although i do not see what you see in most pictures. I doubt Mars-folks would drive '72 station wagons (that's what i saw in one;-)) through the desert:-)

    I have always believed in 'more', personally i love all the ISS footage of UFO's shooting through space.

    Keep up the good work, PM me if you get to see a pretty lady up there ;p


    ps. You must be retired, the way you look into the details of these pics must take , well, years probably since you're here for at least two -))
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Dykwia View Post

      Damn Shane, you are one persistent guy. Kudos!

      I wandered in here, saw it was from 2012. Went straight from 2012 (page 1) to 2014 (last page) and Bang!, there you still are, still going strong haha.

      Great topic, although i do not see what you see in most pictures. I doubt Mars-folks would drive '72 station wagons (that's what i saw in one;-)) through the desert:-)

      I have always believed in 'more', personally i love all the ISS footage of UFO's shooting through space.

      Keep up the good work, PM me if you get to see a pretty lady up there ;p


      ps. You must be retired, the way you look into the details of these pics must take , well, years probably since you're here for at least two -))

      Thanks Dykwia! :rolleyes:

      2012, , time flies!


      True. blurry images mean not all that l think that l see, are what l see, (if that makes any sense).

      But of course some could be exactly what it looks like! :p


      Pretty lady, LOL, l think that a fluffy bunny is as close as l can get to that one! :p


      72 Station wagons, must have missed that one! :rolleyes:


      No, it really doesn't take that long! I am a whiz with Photoshop, so l can get through about 12 images in an hour!

      Although l tend to not bother with stuff that is pretty blurry and has been shown before!


      Retired l wish, maybe in a year or two the way l am going online!


      It is really finding hard to dismiss evidence, (like the house and fabric thing out front) and martian junk here and there, that keeps me going. And the fact that l am way behind with my NASA image scouring, so unless Curiosity gets totaled, this thread will probably continue, indefinitely.

      At least til NASA level's with us!


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  • Profile picture of the author craighakwins
    Do you guys think it's true that they found something that was hand-made on mars? What I mean is that it is not a product of natural causes.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by craighakwins View Post

      Do you guys think it's true that they found something that was hand-made on mars? What I mean is that it is not a product of natural causes.
      Yep, me and Sal, (l missed some) have found plenty of hard to dismiss junk on Mars that can only be made by something!

      Whether that something is still alive and kicking on Mars as we speak is still up for grabs, but l believe there is intelligent life there now!
      Probably at least 3 different species, (human being one).




      PS just backtrack til, you come to my video; it shows the highlights of that search! Well the link anyway, never seems to imbed!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More obvious signs of water flow!



        Then this weird thing. It seems like the local inhabitants, are playing around with us!

        Or maybe it is a kid, defying orders?

        But even l have to admit that it could just be a reflective rock, rather than a kids toy bird?



        But the next things are very likely artificial in nature!

        This thing that looks like a window in the rock.

        And the best one, this rock seems to be reflecting a lot of sunlight back up into the sky!

        Almost like a beam! It is like someone shaved the end of this rock, and polished it to act like a mirror! Cool!




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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    Mar's is like the clouds crossing a nice blue sky.... You see what you want to see
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Alex Blades View Post

      Mar's is like the clouds crossing a nice blue sky.... You see what you want to see
      True, but if you go back through this whole thread, it becomes very obvious that artificial junk is on Mars!

      And because of that, maybe l am seeing more stuff that is just Curiosity's reflection in a rock?

      But since junk is there, then l just post and let my viewers decide!


      There is quite a lot of stuff that l don't post because it is just too blurry to be worthwhile, or we have seen it before!


      But fear needs to be put aside, when considering the very hard to dismiss stuff l have found!


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  • Profile picture of the author Alex Blades
    I am skeptic about life on Mars. Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof when it comes to Aliens. There are alot of pages on this thread, so if you can point me to the right post, I'd love to check it out.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, got this from another post!

        And for people reading the other one, l did find the original, sniff!

        Some might have sour grapes over realizing the Mars does have a blue sky, but truth is truth!



        The white stripes could be natural, but it is the perfectly curved side and perfect impression across the top that has me stocked!
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        • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
          The magnification in that striped object showed up what looked like multipule pages like a sheaf of slabs, note the feathering. Try colorizing it a bit to show up the stripes more please, would love to see that!
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, this is a best l can do!

            I am pretty sure rocks on Earth if cut, may give a similar effect.

            Sal, will hopefully comment!

            But the side details, see arrows, are still out there!



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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Ok, these are the last ones, in my downloaded batch, l will load the next lot soon!

              Some more cool surprises here, some could be explained away, and some is very hard to dismiss.


              First one shows this weird thing on the side of the hill. Shopping center, houses, or pile of rocks?

              Correction, this is artificial, look down and slightly left of the arrow, you will see 6 white domes around a central one, all perfectly spaced.

              I have trouble believing that this is natural, or the odd's are so high, that it isn't!


              But this is the tip of the iceberg.



              Typical artificial structure with free energy generator on the side!



              Yet more, the one on the right is particularly interesting, since it is showing a hanger, (hollow underneath, with supports). Maybe for flying crafts?



              Next one shows another dam wall, with structures at both ends!




              This weird thing, whatever this is, it is partially trasparent and maybe a symbol of some kind?

              Maybe depicting our solor system or theirs?


              Last one is the scariest!

              Is this some giant animal eating something near the waters edge??
              It looks like it!



              But since this is near the waters edge, and there is structure near its tail, l believe that this is just another Martian restaurant shaped like one of its inhabitants! Sigh!


              But unless this has been scaled, it does raise the rumors that large animals exist on Mars, well apart from the lizards l found out earlier!


              Hope l find a herd of them one day, that would be seriously cool!

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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                More artificial stuff!



                There is more water in the top image, and structures with steps in the middle ones, well, odd's on there are!



                Bottom image shows the rovers reflection, as well as what Mars really looks like; notice the blueish, slightly green hill, and blue sky, (the rover is the foreground white, thing, or things, and the blueish green and blue is the rest).

                I will be disappointed if this is all taken in the Arizona desert. But it is inevitable that a Coke can will show up eventually, if that is the case!

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Curiosity's reflection on the right, and these silver, grey structures on the hill!

                  They could even be those UFO's l spotted a while ago, but l will probably stay with structures!
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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    Ok, nothing much today, just the usual Earth like martian clouds and human being!



                    First one shows another river, and this dwelling!

                    I would normally give this a miss, (since it could be the rovers reflection) but since this is on an angle, it makes it more likely it is artificial!



                    This one is pretty cool; an overweight human, with a heavy beard, etc, wearing a white shirt and holding a sign, or trick of light?

                    I am leaning towards this being a trick of light, but l can't be 100% certain!



                    The lower image is one of the best reflective rocks l have found, showing Mars clouds, (the white, foreground stuff is the rover, and dark thing a hill)!

                    The exciting thing about this is, the clouds are darker on the base than the top, which add's credibility to my theory that Mars has rain!

                    Saturn's moon Titan, and Venus are the only other two worlds with rain, albeit exotic rain!

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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      This doesn't look like a reflective rock, the angles and shadows don't add up?



                      Another one of these things that look like a baby bird, or a sculpture of one? I was going to miss this, but since it's wing is sticking out of this thing, it demands more attention.

                      The other thing is this soil that seriously looks like a bulldozer went over it!




                      More water that is pouring out of the hole in the rock face!



                      I have spotted half a dozen poles here! Maybe Alexia is right, but they are probably at least 5 storeys high, though?



                      The partially transparent thing on the right is the most interesting.
                      Certainly makes the skeptics cringe!


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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        More cars, roads, structures and buildings!

                        Take note of the large, cement building or tower near the road, or most likely freeway. The flat area, and motion blur on the white things add's to this being a Martian freeway.

                        This structure has the charastic two eye, patterns on either side, (tinted windows) and a shadow underneath, which means the top part with the eyes, is sticking out, above the freeway.



                        This is too distant to be the rovers reflection, and unless square rocks with geometric patterns are common on Mars, it is what it looks like!

                        The colors don't match Curiosity's reflection either, (there is always white).

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                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                          Ok, more weird stuff on the hill. Looks more like buildings than rocks.

                          This could even be giant Martian lettering, l can make out the S at the end, but the rest?
                          Maybe there version of Hollywood?

                          The bottom image resembles a football oval?

                          I had to max out the contrast, brightness on this and the next one, to see anything.



                          Shiny object near the waters edge. Probably another bridge, with vertical reflective slats on either side, picking up the light.



                          Bottom image above shows another martian face carving on the side of the hill. I know that a face can be natural, but l have seen several of these in the same area, so!!!

                          A 5 sided star pattern in this rock, pretty sure it wasn't the rover that did it, it only makes round holes in rocks.



                          Last one looks like a flying toaster! But, whatever this is, it isn't natural.

                          I am leaning towards this being hollow, since Curiosity's reflection couldn't achieve the side detail shown here



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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                            More rivers, roads and faces!



                            This hill is full of dirt roads. Explains why the contrast is so bad!

                            This one shows a face sculpture sticking out of this mound of dirt, possibly an outlet for a dam?

                            Bottom image shows another road and possible car?



                            Last one is probably the best example of a Martian river, l have seen, (better detail than usual). Why am l sure, because of the reflections, just visible under the arrow.

                            There is also exposed rock further down, which probably indicates, that a lot more water shown here, flowed through.

                            Add's to the credibility of a intelligently controlled dam, further upstream or torrential rainfall!





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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Ok, more water!



                              The next one is these weird things, and the structure on the right, (rectangle with curved edges and on stilts)!



                              Seems to be a lake here, but l can't be sure.

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                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                Another artificial structure! I posted this becuase of the sun glistening off the edge of this thing, and the fact that it is almost flat, (or is flat) which means it isn't reflecting the rover back to us.



                                Next one shows an almost dry dam and the usual weird stuff around it!



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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  Another possible dam!



                                  And another possible house!

                                  I was going to give this a miss, since it could be natural, but the polished dome or domes on the left, changed my mind!



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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    Ok, this structure is similar to the hacked image someone else posted elsewhere, and l put it here.

                                    Similar ring design, and yep, this thing is hollow. It could still be a rock formation, but the thing on the right, is more likely artificial.



                                    More water, you can tell by the reflection, left hand arrow.



                                    This one could still be Curiosity's reflection, (it does have this pattern on it) but l can't be sure?



                                    The top image might be a road system? But if it isn't then the bottom image definitely is artificial. The big thing on the left that looks like a giant cat statue, helps!

                                    This has too many elements to be a pile of rocks, it could even be a stadium?



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                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                      More likely buildings. The UFO's tend to give it away!



                                      Rock, or giant Martian hanger?



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                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                        Ok, l have hit a bit of a jackpot run this time, hope it continues?

                                        First one shows fresh water flowing into a pond. The pond must have a concrete base, in order to be this clear? Or it could just be a rocky area, either way this shows that water flowing up from springs is likely.



                                        I have a hard time believing that this is just a rock! A rock with a highly reflective, silver, coin shape catching the sunlight!



                                        I swear that the next one seriously looks like someone knocked off the top of this hill, and put some reflective dome there instead. Then over time, the clear dome got Martian dust all over it, and was partially hidden!

                                        This almost has an Egyptian look about it, no surprise there!


                                        The lower image shows a hill with an obvious entrance. And an air intake valve sticking up on the left.

                                        The pattern surrounding this entrance, l have seen countless times before, while going through all of these images.

                                        Might be depicting our solar system?



                                        Last one is the best! First we have this two faced, happy creature. It could be the rovers reflection, but l can't be sure?

                                        Then some water, and stuff, then the sun pattern again, below!

                                        I think that l might have seen this done in a crop circle, somewhere on Earth.
                                        Might look into it!




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                                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                          Ok, some weird building about here, that certainly don't look rocklike, including what seems to be dust!



                                          This weird thing that looks like a sculpture, but it is just the rovers reflection on this polished metal, or whatever?

                                          The army barrack one below, is certainly cooler!



                                          This is the coolest one, Curiosity's reflection is on the right hand rock, (you can see the frame and wheels further down).

                                          The silver material on the right is unfortunately not hollow and just reflecting Curiosity. But it could still be some advanced material?



                                          PS by the way the thing that looks like a hamster above the silvery thing, isn't, unfortunately!

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                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                            Another reflective rock, the rover on the left, some white thing on the right, and then in the distance we have the usual green paddocks, blue/pirple hills and storm clouds!

                                            From the looks of the reflections, (below the green) there could be a lake near Curiosity, (well just behind it) with the white pipe going into it!

                                            Pretty disguising that Curiosity drives right past, front page news like this, and we get bugger all!


                                            But this is the tip of the iceberg, check out the nest one!



                                            Doesn't look like much, until you realise that this long rock is reflecting what is behind Curiosity!

                                            This is probably our first real closeup view of a Martian village, maybe deserted, but very likely artificial.

                                            The light part is the sky or background hill, but because of some of the artificial stuff sticking up above the darker background, strongly suggests, perspective and distance, or one background view!

                                            So there is modern and ancient with some characterture thrown in, and very tall distant structures, which have to be more recent, but impossible to tell?





                                            Lets hope that when a third party rover goes there it lands near this, l would love to see a Martian lake in HD!

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                                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                              Found this thing on the top of a rock, and by the looks of the architecture on the left, it is artificial!

                                              Martian bird bath?

                                              And this one on the right, apart from the rovers reflection, there is all this green stuff!

                                              Pity the media couldn't mention this anomaly!!!



                                              Ok, in this image is Curiosity's reflection, and this green stuff in the distance, with the martian blue sky and clouds!

                                              Seriously looks like reeds, certainly possible if a lake is also there, eventhough hard to grasp!



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                                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                More fascinating stuff, including something for hard nosed skeptics to solve?

                                                The first one is for the skeptics, since it probably isn't artifact related.

                                                You can see Curiositys reflection or mast in the middle, but what is the white stuff behind it?

                                                It is either mineral deposits, or martian mist, (which shouldn't exist of course)!



                                                This is reflecting the rover, (silver thing up the hill); and a hill with a monomunt on top?

                                                Well something like that, l will let you decide?



                                                Last is the coolest, another reflective rock, (the rover is the far left white blob!

                                                Typical blue sky and details which are part of the rock, but what are the white structures in the distance???

                                                This could be more white minerals, but it seriously looks like a martian city to me!



                                                Probably Vegas?

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                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                  Could be another road with car?

                                                  The dust being thrown up around this, (in the distance) add's to this hypothesis. This could be one of those rare images where we are looking lenghways at a road.

                                                  Obviously this isn't concrete, so l found a few houses, or structures close by!



                                                  The previous image, also had some strange tube structures, before the possible city. Not sure what it is, but unlikely to be natural!

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                                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                    Ok, had a read through a popular UFO mag, today and it had an interesting article about this subject!

                                                    Book Sample Secret Mars

                                                    Apparently l am not the only one scouring these images!

                                                    Some of the evidence l have found strongly supports a past and or present civilization on Mars!

                                                    Although the author says the rovers intentionally land in boring areas with no water, there is some truth to that. But on the other hand, l have found several examples of water flows, so, it isn't totally boring!

                                                    Although bloody frustrating, to see something worth further investigation and NASA staff, saying it is natural next!

                                                    Oh, well the truth will have to surface eventually?




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                                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                      Ok, had to go through 12 to find this!

                                                      Aliens trying to write the number 5 or just a natural fluke?

                                                      Don't know, but Curiosity's reflection below, with the usual blue sky and white clouds in the distance, make it worth posting!

                                                      Seems likely that Mars is more like Earth than we would like to think! And NASA officials got spooked when Viking landed, and have been covering up ever since. Well, covering up, 95% of the time!



                                                      Getting down to the last few in the current download, then l will load some more!

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                                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                        Ok, l have loaded the next lot or raw images 438 - 440; and was hoping for a knock everybody of their feet image.
                                                        I think l may have found it?

                                                        Found this almost square rock, or possibly metal, with a weird thing to the right, but that is not the best part, look more closely! And remember that the angle is to great to be reflecting Curiosity's reflection!

                                                        Yep, it looks like one of the locals is having a closer look at Curiosity! Or a rather sad alien is taking a peek!

                                                        The middle image is the best l can go to clean it up, and l have been trying to figure out if it is the hillside details, but it most likely isn't!

                                                        You can see the Martian blue sky at the top and hill, etc, behind it, and its neck is in the foreground, which makes it a lot tougher to dismiss as just part of the hill.

                                                        We have seen this one before, but they tend to wear a spacesuit, as well of course seeing this one on Earth quite a few times.

                                                        So, much for scary alien, that would rather kill off a few humans for kicks than have a chat!

                                                        This one looks almost sorry that NASA keeps, scanning all their images and binning the secret or real stuff!
                                                        It seems more and more likely, that Mars is inhabited!



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                                                        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                          Ok, this is probably a rock, or a petrified plant?



                                                          And this thing on the hill again, l won't comment, but there is a lot of Martain dust on the left!



                                                          Apparently according to NASA, (up to very recently) and the media, Mars doesn't have a blue sky?

                                                          This rare NASA released image sure looks like it has a blue sky to me, unless l am color blind????

                                                          Oxygen molecules make the sky blue, as it does on Earth; Maybe the 98% carbon dioxide, is a missprint?

                                                          Or maybe as Einstein has said, "stupidity is infinite"?

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                                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                            Ok, they are getting a bit thin, as of late, had to go through 12 to find this!

                                                            But as the likely alien face has shown, gems do pop up!

                                                            First image, a martian stream, too hard to tell whether it has water or not? But we know from past images l have found that clear liquid is on Mars surface. And since it doesn't look salty, (looks clear) the air pressure being 1% of ours is probably a crock!



                                                            Another reflective rock, part of Curiosity, (bottom image) blue hills, (second arrow) martian sky top, with possible clouds, (real clouds like ours, not some wispy stuff, high up, which is all we get from the media).



                                                            Another one, of a different part of the background. Similar again, blue hills in the background, Curiosity foreground, bottom, and some things in the sky that seriously look like real clouds.

                                                            There is also something blurring the blue hills, under these clouds, rain or dust are the only possibilities l can come up with?
                                                            But at least we have a 50% chance, of it being rain!



                                                            Apparently to some, these images, (old) definitely don't show water flowing down a hill, or an insanely obvious Earth like blue sky over Mount Sharp?

                                                            Since this image shows a clear liquid flowing down a hill, (not brine or very salty water) the martian air pressure comes into question!

                                                            As well as the fact that if Mars has an Earth like sky, then the Mars being 1% air pressure of Earth, can't be true!!!!

                                                            If it was, then Mars sky would be black!!!





                                                            NASA and the media do hint at the blue sky one, but the liquid on Mars, nothing?

                                                            If there is no coverup, then why don't EITHER OF THEM, SAY ANYTHING????

                                                            I doubt that stupidity comes into it, NASA has the smartest people on the planet working for them.

                                                            So, coverup, is the only possible answer!!!

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                                                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                              Ok, this shows Curiosity in the bottom foreground, a typical blue sky with white clouds, then this...

                                                              I don't know what this is, either a very tall mountain, or structure. Or Martian Castle!



                                                              Pretty stocked by this one, not only have l possibly found another fluffy Martian rabbit, but more obvious traces of water.



                                                              There appears to be a pool of clear water sitting on this rock, probably another spring outlet!

                                                              And as said before, since this looks crystal clear, and it isn't vaporizing away as it should be, then the air pressure is closer to ours that most would like to admit.

                                                              But add that to the blue sky, then it can't be 1% of ours!

                                                              Virtually impossible.



                                                              I would rather find out the Real Truth than believe what the house-trained media tell me!

                                                              But each person their own?
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                                                              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                                Ok, some more proof that Mars has a blue sky!

                                                                And latest findings also show that Mars upper atmosphere is water vapour rich!

                                                                A massive contradiction for the Mars air pressure being 1% of ours!!!!

                                                                But anyway here are some real Hubble, etc images, not the BS media and recent publication ones!

                                                                Hubble images don't lie!

                                                                Go to any NASA site, and you will never see this; coverup or stupidity, you be the judge!









                                                                Mars is likely more Earth like than NASA would like to admit!

                                                                The two top images, are official images from Hubble archives, not something made up, so Mars having a blue sky is a fact!

                                                                Which means Mars air pressure being substantially lower than ours is wrong!

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                                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                                  Ok, pretty exciting find today!

                                                                  This thing that looks like an ancient cog, and the thing next to it that looks like an animal? But on closer inspection l am unfortunately pretty sure it is a reflective rock.



                                                                  Now we get to the exciting one!

                                                                  I have found this very reflective rectangular shape. It is almost like someone put a polished solid silver rectangle and stuck it in the ground.



                                                                  This could just be some natural mineral, but since there is geometric patterns on this thing, (left image) l am going with this being more artificial junk!

                                                                  At least the details are getting better!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay - finally got here. LOL. That is a quite interesting picture. That bottom arrow is just shadow, nothing I can see in that without a good dose of pipe juice.

    I'm not sure what size that stuff is and I guess even natural stuff might be different sizes than here on earth with different rock and soil compositions.

    Natural stuff that could look like that? Pyrite, magnitite, galena, several other metals, then there's minerals like Fluorite that also form perfect cubes. Most minerals are geometric, or have geometric forms anyhow. All those round rocks you see up there? There are some that look the same in many places in the US. In the Eastern states you can find balls of iron - that's what the rock balls all over that planet look like to me. I have one I'm having cut for me in a week or two that is mudstone that you can see through one little area that is filled with opalite It looks like a kids rubber ball that has cracked a little from weather or age, which is what I thought it was when I picked it up.

    I'm not one to say Mars has never had life. They had oceans. There's a lot of tube like stuff up there that look like fossils to me. I saw agate in the pics before NASA ever said there was a lot of silica there. I've always assumed that the tubular stuff was either tubular agate like we have here or fossil material.

    As far as I have seen in pics, though, it looks to me like there's junk up there. I don't know why anyone would think it was so wild that someone was there at one time. We're here and nobody seems to think that's so damned bizarre.

    As far as life now? I don't buy it. Not enough atmosphere. Unless there are aliens from elsewhere doing the same thing up there we are, I'm thinking any life we encounter will be in fossil form.

    Not everything geometric is an artifact, but there's enough geometric stuff I've seen in your pics to say we're definitely seeing SOME artifacts up there.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I'm not sure what size that stuff is and I guess even natural stuff might be different sizes than here on earth with different rock and soil compositions.
      Probably 15 - 30 cm, best guess.

      I'm not one to say Mars has never had life. They had oceans. There's a lot of tube like stuff up there that look like fossils to me. I saw agate in the pics before NASA ever said there was a lot of silica there. I've always assumed that the tubular stuff was either tubular agate like we have here or fossil material.

      As far as I have seen in pics, though, it looks to me like there's junk up there. I don't know why anyone would think it was so wild that someone was there at one time. We're here and nobody seems to think that's so damned bizarre.
      Thanks, Sal, it is good to know that some here, will acknowledge past life up there.

      I agree that some or most of what l have found may be just rocks, but with some, the odd's are so high of it not being just rocks, that it amazes me that some individuals here can dismiss the entire thread as just rocks!

      But l suppose, that unless l find an alien saying, "Hi, mom", some will be unconvinced.


      As far as life now? I don't buy it. Not enough atmosphere. Unless there are aliens from elsewhere doing the same thing up there we are, I'm thinking any life we encounter will be in fossil form.

      Not everything geometric is an artifact, but there's enough geometric stuff I've seen in your pics to say we're definitely seeing SOME artifacts up there.
      Atmosphere! Hmmm, all l will say is NASA has been lying through its teeth since Viking, so l wouldn't take most of what they say at face value!

      ESA, remains to be seen?


      This silver thing might be natural, but it seriously looks like a foundation post for a house? Futuristic one, but on first impressions that is what it looks like. The top of it seems to be beveled as well.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Looks like Galena or sphalerite to me and at that size - 15 to 30 cm, I would think it's a metal mineral. I don't know enough about the environment (mineral environment) to know for sure.

    As far as atmosphere. There's no plate techtonics. I believe NASA on this one. I think if they were to find life there, it would be someone/thing else scoping out the planet and not indigenous life.

    There's sand on top of sand there. The test of life is whether there was once soil, too. No soil, no life. Since there was water, and plenty of it - even they say out loud that they just went through an old lake. bed. Without techtonics, that could be how the planet died. It could also be a case of human type life forms that weren't able to get their excrement coagulated and destroyed themselves...about the same way we are.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Ok, Sal found some more, unfortunately you are probably right about the mineral idea. Sniff!

      But not sure about the atmosphere; l did find some more water on the surface, well it is either salty or liquid Fluorocarbons, to handle the air pressure, or water if NASA is fibbing?

      As you can see here it is clear! Whatever it is?



      Found some more reflective, jagged minerals, the one down the bottom is showing Mars landscape, there seems to be some mini dust devils here and there!

      Then this large reflective rock, showing white or silver geometric shapes in the distance. If these are minerals then they are 20 or more storeys high. City or Factory perhaps?



      Bottom image shows some more possible fluid runoff!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Mars real landscape!

        Blue distant hills, blue sky and pinkish clouds, (probably the dust).



        Found this thing, thought that it might be artificial, but after seeing a few rocks with this water flow pattern on it, it is unfortunately just a rock!

        The other one, l haven't a clue, since it has a lot of green on it, it could be fungus, or a natural mineral or Curiosity's reflection, or all three?



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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, more real views of Mars surface!

          Blue hill on left, the rover bottom right, distant clouds with obvious water buildup underneath, (not sure whether fluorocarbons could form clouds, but l believe in the water on Mars, air pressure is a lie theory).

          And the distant pink thing which is enormous. The clouds go behind it, so it is real whatever it is!



          More water, and possible sky reflecting rocks! I have seen a few traces of water here and there, but this is the most obvious. There is also a slight green tinge to this water as well, and the dirt has been moved about on the left.

          Fluffy bunny taking a drink. Who knows?




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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Normally l would dismiss this, but the ears, and side details, make me believe this is a amateurish drawing of something, possibly a bunny?

            If so then some of the locals must be having a bit of fun, with us, possibly even reading this thread?



            Next one looks like another statue!




            And the last one looks like an old monument up top, and artificial structures down the bottom.

            Unless the skeptics can tell us how a W shaped wire structure with spheres on top is a rock!



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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

              Next one looks like another statue!
              That statue looks remarkably like an enormous pe.....Oh never mind.
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              Wibble, bark, my old man's a mushroom etc...

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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                That statue looks remarkably like an enormous pe.....Oh never mind.
                Careful Richard, Claude will have a field day with that one!

                I would say Darth Vadar myself, if l had to guess?

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              • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                That statue looks remarkably like an enormous pe.....Oh never mind.
                I thought it was just me... I mean what the heck? Fluffy bunnies, dry creek beds, and now enormous pe.....?

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by Khemosabi View Post

                  Shane!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                  The bunnies are DOOMED, DOOMED I SAY!

                  Ok, maybe not doomed, but did you see today's "headline"?

                  A comet is about to fly by Mars: Here's everything you need to know

                  Read through the article, it has a website that you can see it fly past Mars.

                  ~ Theresa
                  BAAAAHAAAAAAA........., hmmm, thanks, but the link didn't work?


                  Originally Posted by Khemosabi View Post

                  I thought it was just me... I mean what the heck? Fluffy bunnies, dry creek beds, and now enormous pe.....?

                  ~ Theresa
                  Groan,......cut it out you two, isn't Claude bad enough!

                  Thank god l left out the city that looks like,...better stop there!

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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    Shane!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The bunnies are DOOMED, DOOMED I SAY!

    Ok, maybe not doomed, but did you see today's "headline"?

    A comet is about to fly by Mars: Here's everything you need to know

    Read through the article, it has a website that you can see it fly past Mars.

    ~ Theresa
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  • Profile picture of the author Khemosabi
    Shane,
    I just tried the link again, it worked fine for me.

    Try this one:
    Rare comet fly-by of Mars on Sunday

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Some more structures, this highly reflective rectangular thing, and a whitish one further up, (the whitish one could be the rovers reflection).

      In fact Curiosity's reflection is higher up, adding to the credibility of this being a building. It appears to be hollow, might be a hanger?



      More dirt roads and more cars, well the slight motion blur on this thing, makes it likely, and the dust behind it!



      The lower thing appears to be a statue, pointing towards something. I only say that because Curiosity's reflection cannot account for all the colors on this thing, especially the yellow, (non existent on the rover).

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shane.

    1. The existence of water on Mars has never been denied or hidden. Some of what the rover crosses is actually called "old lake bed" by NASA. In summer, it's also thought "officially" that when it gets warm enough, water actually still flows in small amounts.
    So if you're looking for justification for thinking you see old waterways, you probably do, dude. I don't understand your insistence that there's some plot to make us think otherwise.

    2. You need to get out more. Some of what you think couldn't be natural looks perfectly natural. We have a whole park in the US of rocks shaped like that one "statue" you have posted. (we call it mushroom, not penis). Some of those ledges are very straight, but very natural looking. Come out to the states sometimes and I'll show you some natural stuff that will wow you that it's not man-made.

    3. I've asked this before but you don't seem cooperative. I want to know what the size is of some of this stuff you think looks man-made. Not the junk, but some of the square stuff that looks like buildings, etc. Is it the size of one of our buildings or is it small stuff like a foot across. That makes a difference. People think that nature is not geometric and that is completely false. Minerals come in very solidly geometric patterns.

    I'm not saying you're idea that life on mars is wrong. I'm pretty sure they will find it was inhabited at some time or another. I'm just saying some of the stuff you point out as being unnatural just doesn't look it to someone who goes out into wild landscapes a lot. I also can't take any denial of geometry being natural when there's no size on what I'm seeing. Those round balls? They are all over the place in the US. Not a big deal of a feature at all. Please give us something to go on here.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Shane.

      1. The existence of water on Mars has never been denied or hidden. Some of what the rover crosses is actually called "old lake bed" by NASA. In summer, it's also thought "officially" that when it gets warm enough, water actually still flows in small amounts.
      So if you're looking for justification for thinking you see old waterways, you probably do, dude. I don't understand your insistence that there's some plot to make us think otherwise.
      ...

      Yes, l agree l am seeing clear evidence of water levels embedded in the rocks, but it is NASA's insistence of only disclosing ancient past water flows, that gets to me!

      Or me finding clear evidence of some liquid on the surface, and zero mention about it in the papers, etc!

      2. You need to get out more. Some of what you think couldn't be natural looks perfectly natural. We have a whole park in the US of rocks shaped like that one "statue" you have posted. (we call it mushroom, not penis). Some of those ledges are very straight, but very natural looking. Come out to the states sometimes and I'll show you some natural stuff that will wow you that it's not man-made.
      Ok, fair enough, don't shoot the messanger, even if he see's something that isn't there!

      3. I've asked this before but you don't seem cooperative. I want to know what the size is of some of this stuff you think looks man-made. Not the junk, but some of the square stuff that looks like buildings, etc. Is it the size of one of our buildings or is it small stuff like a foot across. That makes a difference. People think that nature is not geometric and that is completely false. Minerals come in very solidly geometric patterns.
      That is a tough one to answer, but generally if it is mid image then usually, a few metres or more.

      And the more distant stuff, 20 to 30 storeys high or more.

      I'm not saying you're idea that life on mars is wrong. I'm pretty sure they will find it was inhabited at some time or another. I'm just saying some of the stuff you point out as being unnatural just doesn't look it to someone who goes out into wild landscapes a lot. I also can't take any denial of geometry being natural when there's no size on what I'm seeing. Those round balls? They are all over the place in the US. Not a big deal of a feature at all. Please give us something to go on here.
      Ok, if l find something that is hard to judge from what it could be l will judge or give the possible scale....

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    RE: Water - Shane, there is no cover up. There used to be a LOT - now there is a little. It flows a bit in the summer. What's so "conspiracy" about that. Remember - that it used to be a lot warmer there than it is now. It had more atmosphere. What exactly do you think water does when it gets around 30f ? It freakin' freezes. Maybe it's still in water form under the surface, but water is going to freeze on the surface. That's why you only have water flow there during some summer month days. There's also another form of ice at the poles. I don't remember.....carbon?? Something anyhow. Not sure what the heck happens to that when it melts.

    NASA also says there's clouds - with H20 in them. I think I posted that page somewhere for you.

    They aren't hiding water or clouds or anything. The sky pics? It's red when the wind is blowing because of sand. Ever stood in a desert when the wind blows? I have. The sky turns kinda dark. Sand does that. When the wind isn't blowing the sky isn't red. But it's a windy planet so it blows a lot and there's not much there to stop it.

    Now as far as some things..........I also see junk. Not all of it - some looks like minerals to me. But, yeah - I've seen a few pics that would best be described as junk.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      RE: Water - Shane, there is no cover up. There used to be a LOT - now there is a little. It flows a bit in the summer. What's so "conspiracy" about that. Remember - that it used to be a lot warmer there than it is now. It had more atmosphere. What exactly do you think water does when it gets around 30f ? It freakin' freezes. Maybe it's still in water form under the surface, but water is going to freeze on the surface. That's why you only have water flow there during some summer month days. There's also another form of ice at the poles. I don't remember.....carbon?? Something anyhow. Not sure what the heck happens to that when it melts.

      NASA also says there's clouds - with H20 in them. I think I posted that page somewhere for you.
      Yes, they did mention snow near the polar caps, but all research or findings only hints to water on the surface in the ancient past! Although they have also said there is flozen water/ice here and there, but that is about it!

      This is there latest findings, the metourite hints to water in the distant past, and the other dark lines appearing on the side of a crater that might be salty water!

      JPL | News | NASA Scientists Find Evidence of Water in Meteorite, Reviving Debate Over Life on Mars

      Is water flowing on Mars? NASA presents new evidence ? RT News

      No big announcements that water or a clear liquid is flowing there now!

      NASA dances around the water on the surface, eventhough Curiosity has driven near some of it, and we hear bugger all!

      If you can find a clear statement that NASA has found a clear liquid on Mars surface, l would be very interested in hearing about it!

      They aren't hiding water or clouds or anything. The sky pics? It's red when the wind is blowing because of sand. Ever stood in a desert when the wind blows? I have. The sky turns kinda dark. Sand does that. When the wind isn't blowing the sky isn't red. But it's a windy planet so it blows a lot and there's not much there to stop it.
      True that dust could darken the sky, l will give you that, but l also tend to find the most interesting stuff in dark images?

      There is also evidence that high saturation is occurring in the upper atmosphere. Or rain is present, but l can virtually guarantee you that there statement will be something else,...anything short of clobbering the air pressure idea, and saying that Mars has rain!

      I hope that they do, but their track record says otherwise!

      Now as far as some things..........I also see junk. Not all of it - some looks like minerals to me. But, yeah - I've seen a few pics that would best be described as junk.
      Yes plenty of junk hinting to past life, and possibly present life there.

      But the thing is, if NASA says tomorrow that they got the air pressure data wrong, and Mars has storm clouds, (they did publicly admit to snow from clouds and high altitude Cirus clouds, only) then there would be a public outcry, and likely legal battles.

      Eventually that would or could uncover, the junk and possible life forms.

      Which would or could lead to UFO, back engineering, which would eventually lead to Free energy systems.

      Which would cause another stock market crash, and tens of thousands of jobs in jeopardy, as well as the 100 trillion in oil taking a big hit!


      Which means NASA will dance around this, for as long as they can until the ESA, or third party can clearly show that they are full of it!


      Their position is understandable, and long term the whole world would be better off, especially the poor. But in the short term not so good!


      Maybe that is why NASA is steathfully releasing what is really there, so in a court of law they can say, "we have been releasing everything for public view, it is not our fault no one noticed"?

      Well, almost no one!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Maybe l am missing something, but it looks like a rock to me?


      I applaud this guy for sticking it to NASA, but he needs to find something pretty good; l have found great images, or faces as well as other stuff, but know that NASA would ignore it!

      Because they make sure none of their images have concrete proof on them.

      Although with a reasonably open mind, it is pretty obvious that Mars had intelligent life on it in its past or more recently!

      Thanks for posting Dan!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, a few more rocks,...ahem other stuff!



        Some weird, non rock type stuff!



        And these, the first one throwing up some dust could be a boulder rolling down the hill, but the other one?

        Doubt there are many car shaped boulders on Mars that roll uphill!

        But l am only one of almost 50k on this forum that believes in this stuff!

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  • Profile picture of the author Raja Abdulla
    Is life really possible in Mars.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Raja Abdulla View Post

      Is life really possible in Mars.
      Yes, Mars does fall within the goldilocks zone, or within the habitable area of the suns rays!

      So, just as long as NASA has the air pressure wrong, (which a building pile of data is confirming) then it is more than likely!


      Even l have trouble believing that an advanced civilization is on Mars as we speak, but if hard to dismiss evidence is found then it becomes more and more likely!

      Pity a millionare couldn't try to get a rocket there, and parachute a small probe to the surface with a HD camera, l am sure that with all the satellites in orbit they could use one to beam back what it sees.

      And we could finally see what it lands near or on top of, in high res, not the blurry crap we get here, which is designed to not stand up in a court of law!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, here is the next lot, had to go through almost 25 images to find these, (not to mention the other 15 or so, that didn't have anything worth posting on other days) but it was worth it!



        First one could be one of those dark flows reported by scientists, but after finding pools of water on Mars surface, this isn't anything to jump up in the chair over!

        Next one is more interesting; looks like a structure is on top of this hill?

        Considering this thing is at least 7 km's away, it is pretty big, (probably a few storys high).

        UFO, rock formation or structure, too far away to tell, but part of it is glistening in the sun, so if it is a rock it must be exposing some mineral or crystal.

        Hard to believe that a 2 story crystal of mineral is on Mars!

        I will stay with UFO or building!



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  • Profile picture of the author hamellr
    The most amazing part is that while the entire project cost $820 million, the amount of information we've gotten out of this has been astronomical.

    Even more amazing, is that the original mission was 90 days long. Spirit lasted for over six years, and Opportunity is still going - eleven years later.

    To me that speaks of the skillful engineering at NASA.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Ok, another day more water!



      This was a tough one to spot, but there are some reflections further up, and further signs of water flow. The sunlight is glistening off this stuff, which has an obvious blue color, and since it is flowing over some rocks has a clear look, instead of muddy.



      Further down we have what looks like a pond! Well, the suttle reflections and water flows further up, add credibility to this!

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        More water, at least it is likely!



        This isn't caused by shadows, and by the looks of the edges, ripples, (left image) and pebbles, this is derived from a Martian spring!

        Sweet!

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Ok, in the first image we get a rare glimpse of what Mars really looks like, in this reflection!

          The ground, blue hills, and this white clump. Initially l thought that it was a large cloud, but since it has 4 oval type shapes and what could be scaffolding below it, this could be another structure. If so massive, is an understatement!



          I am sure that
          this isn't some ancient ruin, least l am pretty sure?



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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Ok, more blue sky and blue hills, and muddy martian puddles, etc.



            This weird rock, which l can't figure out, or artifact. And what looks like a carport?



            Then this, initially l thought that it was smoke, but on closer inspection l am pretty sure that it is a large dust devil.

            So, Earth like blue sky, blue martian hills in the distance and a huge but harmless dust devil in the immediate area.

            Pity we couldn't occasionally get a HD image of this stuff?



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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Another martian freeway, possibly; the road curving around and a truck certainly help with this hypothesis!



              More mountains and blue sky, and this large grey, yellow thing on the horizon, which is shown in all the reflective rocks in this area, so it isn't an illusion. And l believe it to be a giant dust storm!




              Ok, more water, (the reflection on the right, makes it unmistakable)! But there is something interesting on the left!

              This is either an alien holding a large pipe, with water pouring out, or a statue on an alien holding a large pipe with water pouring out?

              Considering how much they like statues, (or did like, l find it unlikely this statue could be in this good a shape after 10,000 or up to a million years of time) it is most likely a statue of one of the inhabitants, holding a large pipe that is fed from a natural spring!

              I don't believe that this is an illusion of perspective, (because of the shadows) although some of the details could be Curiosity's reflection.

              But at the very least this is a reflective statue of an alien, that used to exist there.

              Although all available evidence says that they are there now!




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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                More Martian paintings, and junk!

                Normally l would have dismissed this as random rock formations, but the little guy on the left, changed that!

                There seems to be a boat depiction in the middle, surrounded by animals. Martian depiction of a great flood?



                More Martian machines. This isn't the rovers reflection, and the top part is freestanding, or poking up from the landscape.

                The top part is probably a silver ball?



                Always cool to find something like this....

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Another look at the martian road. There seems to be pillars on either side and a structure at the end. My guess is that it is a fork road, and this thing is a sign!

                  Mars capital City, 257 km's?



                  In this one we have more water down the bottom, (with some weird white structures. A cube, that appears to be blowing out some dust, (but it is probably a structure).

                  What looks like a martian building or hotel, on the left of that!

                  Top left, looks like a hanger, and the rest look like melted silver!



                  The obvious question is, if these are all rocks, then what is the solid silver all about?

                  And these are a good 3 or more k's away, so solid silver which is as tall as a man being exposed on the surface, is the only explanation!

                  And the other obvious question is, why isn't Curiosity going to check it out?

                  And why hasn't the media said anything?

                  I thought that, "Mars is Rich in Precious Metals" would be newsworthy?


                  More likely they are artificial in nature, so the housetrained media and NASA want to keep away from it!


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                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                    The first image is more water, (the sun's gleam off the water flowing over the edge makes this highly likely). Curiositys tire tracks are on the left of this, so this is more of a puddle than a river!

                    I have seem more traces of puddles and rivers in these images, but posted the clearest one.

                    And if all of this water is on Mars then odd's on it must have rained recently.....



                    This reflective rock show Curiosity's mast on the left, (the twin cameras that took this shot). The bottom part is the top of Curiosity.

                    The thing on the right is the can thing on top of the rover, (the first image shows part of it).

                    And then we have the background, with the blue hills and sky and apparently a dark, rain cloud. This isn't part of the rover, and odd's on it isn't a dust devil.

                    I am finding all of this water here and there, so it add's up. Underground springs cannot account for all of it!



                    Yep, Curiosity drives over the damn stuff, and we get nothing!

                    A pity it couldn't drive into a river!

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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      The bottom image shows the raincloud again, and the top is a bit of a mystery.

                      The bottom one, shows another reflective rock, and what seems like an army of dust devils in the distance? I know that this isn't the rock, since they are in front of the hills, and behind Curiosity, (bottom bit).

                      It seems that Mars landscape is plagued by these things!

                      The top one is a concave mirror, since the rover is distorting around it. The brown thing in the middle, alien looking back at us?

                      Least he is smiling, better than the "kill you for laughs, BS alien reports", we get down here!






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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        More Martian roads? The sign over the road, and a possible car throwing dust up behind it certainly helps.

                        Some soil being dug up on the bottom image, perhaps?



                        This is pretty cool, three straight lines, probably etched into the rock. This is pushing the natural anomaly theory!



                        This is also pretty cool, someone or something is burning off!

                        The two top images show the smoke, and the lower one, shows it rising, instead of it being blown by the winds. This could be volcanic activity, but if it is then why doesn't the rover go and check it out????

                        The lower image also shows a rare glimse of what Mars really looks like, with blue skys, and distant blue hills with red details, you could almost pass this off as Australia's outback!



                        Top image - rover on the left, and hill with bright green!!!! Definitely not Curiosity. Mineral or living plants are the only explanations!



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