Mars Curiosity Stealth Mission

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Hmmmm, l was sniffing around for something else and found this gem!

I know it has a lot of ad's, (hopefully the WF version, won't?) but it also has some seriously cool images and info,.


This will most likely be what NASA will release to the world after December 21st 2012, or when the Mayan calender ends.


Images of an Earth like Pyramid on Mars, and a landscape of very advanced junk, or ruins, should hit the front pages of most papers, and media, ect.

I know that most of the images could be mineral deposits, or something else, but there are a handful of images that have to be artificial. The odds of them being natural are just too high, (the house ruins, being one).


Anyway well worth a look! I suspect that if this announcment occurs, then people that would rather keep their heads in the sand concerning this subject will be in for a massive shock!

As for myself, it won't be a shock, just confirmation of the truth that a very advanced civilization once existed on Mars, and we could probably jump-start our civilization a couple of hundred years in a short space of time, with this in our backy*rds!

Shane

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    Mars rover: No revelations in first soil test - CBS News

    Latest findings are that it has found carbon in the soil, and not surprisingly NASA scientists are saying it is anything else than proving that the building blocks of life are in the soil!!! :rolleyes:

    Not surprising, if the previous video is accurate, oh well, we will know in about 20 days time!!!


    Hmmm, decided to do a bit of digging, so to speak, and found these interesting things....

    I took one cropped shot of the original image, and a close up of some interesting stuff.





    Interesting thing about this one, is it seems to have a triangular window? And some sort of pipes sticking out of the sides? Maybe to get water from deep below the ground? Obviously not conclusive, but compelling. And if you take a closer look it seems that maybe someone with brown pants and blue shirts are walking around on both sides of the window? The one on the left is looking at the blue dome and the one on the right is looking directory at the rover. Hmmm, probably seeing it's glint in the sun, or thinking that l better not wave, or l might get thrown in prison?

    Let's hope NASA takes another shot of this at a higher res, should see some more details, and maybe catch someone waving?





    Notice anything! In the zoomed in image, it looks like the rover drove over a metallic button of some kind. I know it could be a polished rock or mineral rolled by the water in the past, but since it has a hole, dead centre, it is hard to dismiss as natural!





    Hmmmm, looks like a martain anchor? :rolleyes:


    So as you can see, from these and the other soil sample announcement, they seem to be avoiding proving that there is someone or something there!

    We should get the truth before Christmas!

    Shane
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      if you take a closer look it seems that maybe someone with brown pants and blue shirts are walking around on both sides of the window?
      Can't see this at all.

      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      looks like a martain anchor?
      I'm a notorious skepchick, but to me, it looks exactly like a natural undulation-shadow on the ground.

      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      We should get the truth before Christmas!
      So, I'm just wondering (and you know I ask good-humoredly, not argumentatively): if there's no conclusive proof of former life on Mars by Christmas, will you be saying "They just haven't found the evidence yet" or "Looks like there may not be, after all"? :p
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Can't see this at all.
        Hmmm, here you go!



        The first person, (on the left) is looking at the cone type structure, the second person seems to be talking to the third, who is holding one or both of his hands out.

        So it either means that leaked reports of there being up to 1 million human being sparsely spread out on Mars is true. Or it means this is something else, and the possibility of ancient, advanced long gone, life is likely!


        I'm a notorious skepchick, but to me, it looks exactly like a natural undulation-shadow on the ground.
        Yep, might be!!! :rolleyes:


        So, I'm just wondering (and you know I ask good-humoredly, not argumentatively): if there's no conclusive proof of former life on Mars by Christmas, will you be saying "They just haven't found the evidence yet" or "Looks like there may not be, after all"? :p
        Well, the video tends to show that some of the main players in what Curiosity does, and how long it takes to do it, indicates that after Dec, 21, will be the date the rover reaches the pyramid or obvious indications of ancient ruins.

        Obviously they have covered up stuff for the last 60 years, so there is no guarantees; but why would they land in an area with a pyramid in the distance and obvious signs of ancient ruins?

        It's a bit like landing a rover near Vegas, and trying to block or cover the city in the distance while it is driving towards it!

        Remember it is driving towards the interesting stuff, so if they drive towards something boring, and do d U turn, l will be disappointed!

        But l suspect that with the increase in UFO activity on Earth, etc, that if they change their minds, then someone or something else will make it up for them.

        A rover on mars taking close up pics, of ancient ruins, with very advanced materials, is less shocking than something landing in a park in the US and saying, hi!

        It should get interesting after the 21st!!!:p



        Here is another closer image of the martian cog. It has gaps, along the base or uniformly broken spokes. And it also has a rim since the shadow doesn't go all the way up!

        A uniform complex shape which is hollow and silver is so unlikely, that l tend to believe that this is a genuine, probably ancient martian artifact, that proves that there were an advanced race on Mars at some point in the distant past!

        If Curiosity was searching for any viable evidence it would have stopped over this, or gone back, and taken very close up shots of this, but as usual NASA dismisses, everything!

        This crap should end soon!

        Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Hmmm, found some more!



          Then after correcting the color, and zooming in on something interesting!





          Is it just me, or does that look like something metallic sticking out of the windswept dune???



          The NASA version!



          And the true color version. Hmmm, there seems to be green algie on some of the rocks!!! The martian algie, under the top right hand side rock is the most obvious!!!

          The older Mars rovers also picked up on green algie, after color correcting!

          And for the record the Curiosity path isn't headed straight for the Pyramid, but will more or less go past it to the windswept part of Mars.

          The part with the exposed ruins!!!

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            So, let me see if I have this right ... the photos that NASA releases are all incorrect and inaccurate (or perhaps just some of them?), but after other people who just happen to believe in (former) life on Mars have "corrected" them, they've then somehow become the "true" versions? Am I the only one who thinks some of the language used describing that situation is perhaps a little biased?

            It's just "We can't see any evidence of life on Mars from these photos released by NASA, but if we "correct" them digitally, and produce "true" versions of them, then people will see that they might suggest that interpretation"?

            Hmmmmm, they did go back for a closer look, or took a higher res, photo.

            The first image is mine, or what looks like a silver cog.



            The second image is a better res, image of the cog!

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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              So, let me see if I have this right ... the photos that NASA releases are all incorrect and inaccurate (or perhaps just some of them?), but after other people who just happen to believe in (former) life on Mars have "corrected" them, they've then somehow become the "true" versions? Am I the only one who thinks some of the language used describing that situation is perhaps a little biased?
              Yes, good point, but rather than dig up all available evidence as to if, and why they are purposefully putting a reddish gray filter over virtually all their images, l will just post a previous thread l did, in my defence...

              http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...-red-blue.html

              PS, NASA did release an image of one of the mars rovers, on a hill with a blue sky, the only one since viking! But it seems that when they drive down to lower altitudes everything goes red?

              The images showing the Curiosity decent, in the other room, with the earth type blue sky, prove my point.

              And interestingly enough that video now has that part removed, but thankfully l took some shots of it before NASA officials edited that part out!

              Oh, well, at least 2013 will be BS free!

              Shane
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    Scientists should not adjust the evidence to fit what they believe.

    They can only report on what the evidence is indicating.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    These pics are terrible. I can't tell much in them at all. I've seen much better pics from NASA that show things that are just too bizarre to pass off as natural phenomenon. These pics, not so much. They aren't focused enough.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    Life was found on Mars a while ago* Have you been living under a rock?

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hmmm, l was fascinated with the last video and decided to do some more digging!

        I enhanced the video images, and managed to find an extra image he missed, of our weird martian rabbit!



        Pretty hard to dismiss this as a rock! An ancient fossil, that is being blown across the martian landscape is the most plausible alternative!

        Either way it proves that there is life!

        But as you will see, the martian rabbit theory holds more ground...



        I doubt that a fossil, has colors all over it and seems to be sunning itself? As you will see in the last image, it could also be playing dead. Because of the mars rover slowly moving about?



        Same area, same rover, no rabbit??? And the image below, was taken from the same image above, which shows the rabbit has moved!



        He missed this one, it looks like the same rabbit, but with its ears down. Most likely its white coloration, is so it can hide from predators during the day. Which raises the exciting possibility that there are more animals on Mars!

        And the orange color is on the bottom of the creature, which is hidden in this photo!


        So when you add up all the available evidence, this is a seriously tough one to dismiss as a rock!

        Either way it proves that life exists on Mars!

        I just hope that we do get full disclosure, around Xmas day!

        From what l have heard, the US congress has had an emergency meeting, so when the martian ruins are shown to the world, and the US phone lines and online gov, dep, crash, with the millions of people wanting to see what they have been hiding all this time, others will be there to handle the load!

        Seems more and more likely that Mars is just another Earth like planet with a weaker gravity and less water!

        And is more like the Australian outback, but with very advanced junk the occasional pyramid and other animals! And possibly a million or so humans etc...

        Exciting times!!!! :p

        Shane

        PS all these closeup's were taken from the original images found below the YouTube video channel, (or click on "show more", and the image links will show).
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Hmmm, more digging....



          It seems that the rabbit may have a family!

          The rabbit image was on the right, but on the left are two similarly colored splotches that also disappear in other images or as you will see move positions?

          And before l get the ineviatable, white rock, l have magnified other white rocks and they don't have the color and shadows these have!



          The original image has the rabbit sunning itself on the right, and this spotch, that looks like something white with ears?

          And this isn't there in later images!


          Image A show a rock, and image B shows the rabbit probably trying to hide behind it, (l checked the positions) possibly with some baby rabbits against it. It would explain why the splotches have vanished from this image, and why the rabbit looks scared, (ears down). Apparently the rover moved and scared it!



          Ok, moving on, l did a bit of digging into older Mars Pathfinder missions, and found some other equally cool stuff!



          Apart from the obvious green algae, there is this in the distance....



          I have a tough time believing that this is natural!!!


          But at the very least we know Mars has green algae, growing on its surface, and ancient structures!

          And the occasional rabbit!!!:rolleyes:

          Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            But wait there's more....



            More building's, looks like an outpost!!!

            We should get the truth, soon enough!!!

            Shane
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          • Profile picture of the author Adam Hill
            The green algae could be oxidized copper like pennies get. They already proved that water was atone point abundant there with rivers and such so it could be the minerals that had a chemical reaction. That being said, I really want there to be life on mars and hopefully one day we can terraform it and enable it to sustain carbon based lifeforms. Another theory I have (although nothing to back it up) is who says that carbon based life forms are the only life forms in the universe? The universe is an incomprehensibly huge place and so for someone to say there isn't intelligent life somewhere out there is pompous and asinine in my opinion. Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by Adam Hill View Post

              . Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
              Machines don't do it, eh?

              There is still water on Mars....it's just seasonal in at least many areas.
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

                Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.
                Hmmm, l have also seem the blue colour on man or alien made objects. So some could be natural, and l believe that others are windows. :p

                No, not really, it seems likely that humans or a version of humans are on Mars, as we speak, as well as aliens!

                Looks like Total Recall was onto something.
                Hmmm, total Recall, is based on inaccurate information about Mars, but l have that one on tape, so l'd better not trash it too much, still a great movie! Just needed a blue sky and the occasional plant and animal life, water, etc to be accurate! :p

                The green algae could be oxidized copper like pennies get. They already proved that water was atone point abundant there with rivers and such so it could be the minerals that had a chemical reaction. That being said, I really want there to be life on mars and hopefully one day we can terraform it and enable it to sustain carbon based lifeforms. Another theory I have (although nothing to back it up) is who says that carbon based life forms are the only life forms in the universe? The universe is an incomprehensibly huge place and so for someone to say there isn't intelligent life somewhere out there is pompous and asinine in my opinion. Now lets find some more concrete evidence of past life on mars!!!
                Yes, that's true, but remember that a lot of methane has been detected, and since no volcanic activity has been found, plant and/or animals, are a necessity!

                Machines don't do it, eh?

                There is still water on Mars....it's just seasonal in at least many areas.
                To me, water, plant life and blue sky's on Mars, are a slam dunk!

                Advanced civilizations, animals and aliens, seems likely, but like most l am still getting my head around it all!

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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom


                  Hmmm, alien hard at work! I noticed these weird patterns elsewhere, then came across this; initially l thought that it was a trick of background and foreground rocks, etc, but the exposed first large image shows that this is a structure by itself, and the helmet of the alien has antennae up top!

                  Hard to say whether it has wheels or something else? He or she or it, could be digging up the ground for oxygen, rare elements or something else, but since, he is looking directly at Curiosity it is obvious they know about it, and are keeping clear!

                  Which means they and us, (NASA, gov,) most likely have an agreement!

                  Keep everyone in the dark!


                  Funny thing is very recently NASA said that after drilling into a rock they have conclusively proved that Mars could have had life in it's past!!! WTF!!!!

                  Better end this, l feel a rant coming on!!!:rolleyes:

                  Shane
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        • Profile picture of the author myob
          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

          I enhanced the video images, and managed to find an extra image he missed, of our weird martian rabbit!

          Pretty hard to dismiss this as a rock! An ancient fossil, that is being blown across the martian landscape is the most plausible alternative!

          Either way it proves that there is life!

          But as you will see, the martian rabbit theory holds more ground...
          Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

          "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
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          • Profile picture of the author Dave Patterson
            Originally Posted by myob View Post

            Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

            "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
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            It's a martian rabbit. BIG difference....duh.
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
              Um... there are a few problems here about your imaginary martian rabbit, particularly as "proof" of life. You do understand that current Martian conditions cannot support life as we know it? Prove that a rabbit can survive on a rare atmosphere of 95% CO2, then you may have some grounds that scientists completely missed it.

              "I can write, He floated up to the ceiling, and a baby rabbit came out of his pocket, grew wings, and flew away. And you will believe that it really happened. That's magic, isn't it?"
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              Hmmm, well as l have shown, with the Mars sky issue, don't believe everything NASA tells you, some of it is clearly BS!


              Ok, maybe l am jumping the gun a little bit, but when l see something or somethings that look like a common life form on Earth, and moves around, then it looks likely that it is alive!

              Obviously it isn't concrete proof, but it is likely!


              The Martian Earth like sky, and green algae on the rocks is in my opinion concrete proof, that there is life on Mars!


              A noted scientist also showed that Mars produces a lot of Methane during the summer months! The only things that could do that are green algae, moss, etc or volcanic activity!

              Viking spacecraft biological experiments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

              No volcanic activity has been found, but plenty of green stuff, as l have shown has been!

              The green algae also shows the pressure probably isn't at boiling water type pressures, at the surface but more water liquid levels!


              And as l suspected green algae also produces a lot of oxygen, so, 98 carbon dioxide, and .13% oxygen, is probably the other way around!

              We only need 20% to breathe, so it's odds on there is more than enough for life forms!

              Remember at least 1/3 or Mars has this green stuff growing on its surface, so there is a good chance the oxygen levels are much higher!

              Which opens up the likelihood of other life forms!

              Algae for Oxygen


              And since that is likely Mars carbon dioxide levels are probably much lower as well

              NASA needs to level with us sooner rather than later, as an independent investor is planning to launch a rover at Mars in the next couple of years, and will spill the beans, about what Mars is really like.

              So, boxing day or after, we should finally get the truth!

              Shane
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    I must admire your unabashed tenacity.
    That being said.... Dude, seriously? (spoiler alert)
    If youre keeping this going for comedys sake,bravo.
    Your Rabbit is more than likely trash from the rover.
    The "algae" shadows or discolored soil.
    Unless the Decepticons have a secret base there, What possible benefit would NASA have keeping to themselves the Holy Grail of exploration, otherwise known as life on other planets? Puh-lease!

    Still one of my favorite Aussies regardless,Shane

    Merry Christmas, Bro!
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I must admire your unabashed tenacity.
      That being said.... Dude, seriously? (spoiler alert)
      If youre keeping this going for comedys sake,bravo.
      Your Rabbit is more than likely trash from the rover.
      The "algae" shadows or discolored soil.
      Unless the Decepticons have a secret base there, What possible benefit would NASA have keeping to themselves the Holy Grail of exploration, otherwise known as life on other planets? Puh-lease!

      Still one of my favorite Aussies regardless,Shane

      Merry Christmas, Bro!
      Yep, it could be trash from the rover being blown about, the crater is probably creating a whirlwind of sorts. But 3 pictures of junk that looks like a rabbit, hmmmm, better odds it is a rabbit!

      I know it sounds like a joke, but saying that this hamster type pic, (other source) is silly as well, but it looks seriously like one!!! :rolleyes:



      As for the discolored soil, (don't understand the shadow part?) well methane has been detected, and it doesn't come from volcanoes! And there are plenty more images of green algae on rocks, etc around the planet!

      Where's Mars' Methane? Curiosity Draws a Blank : Discovery News

      First results from viking showed organic material in the soil, then it was dismissed, by NASA saying, it was contaminants from Earth! Then Curiosity does a similar experiment, same positive result, same, excuse!

      I doubt they would spend 2.5 billion and make a dumb mistake twice, especially if it is this important!


      So, l am still convinced in the algae idea!


      As for why, that is a big issue, all l can say is keep your eye on your tv, papers over the next week! There should be a big announcement concerning this subject!


      But if this info, is unsettling to you, then it is best just to ignore this thread.

      I won't hold back on this thread, if l find something, it will be popped on here.


      But Merry Xmas to you as well.

      Shane
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      • Profile picture of the author myob
        Here is a Christmas message from all of our Martian friends:

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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Here is a Christmas message from all of our Martian friends:
          Thank's, Myob, that was seriously terrible!

          Shane :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            The Martian Sky - YouTube

            Hmmm, just as l thought, regardless of what Mars sky colour is, since it has a sky colour is a good indication that Mars air pressure at ground level is comparable to levels that can allow liquid water!

            Seems more and more likely Mars is an M class planet!

            Shane
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            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
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              Hmmmmm, one step closer to the truth!!!! :rolleyes:

              At last!!!!

              Shane :p

              Another recent photo, more weird stuff!:rolleyes:



              Doesn't seem to be anything particularity interesting here, but look closer!



              A - The rock on the right is very polished or mirror-like! Could still be a trick of light or something else?

              B - Get to this one, last...

              C - Looks like another rover with a camera sticking up, maybe the martains are studying us? Or just another trick of light? :rolleyes:

              B - on the left of, What the H*** is that??? :confused: Looks like a machine of some kind!



              Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.

              I won't even mention the weird rock shapes on the right of this!

              Should get the big announcement soon that there are microbes in the dirt, and that should eventually lead to the seriously big announcement that Mars is a giant martian junk yard!

              Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                Hmmmmm, good to hear two NASA officials, saying liquid water is on Mars surface!!!

                And that the likelihood of life on Mars is 95%.

                Only a matter of time!!!


                Shane :p

                But l also find it ironic that they say they can't find out where the Methane is coming from, and they are driving past the green stuff that is producing it!!!

                Still plenty of BS, but at least some of the truth is emerging!
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Hmmmm, found another video of the Curiosity landing, this one has some footage l didn't see in the original one. Unfortunately the quality isn't HD, but it still shows some interesting things!!!


                  And l look the liberty of increasing the mag, of the video in the other room. The video shows this about 22.20 minutes in, or almost at the end!

                  This video shows something artificial? I originally thought it was showing something on the top of the mountain in the crater, Curiosity was aiming for.

                  But, because of the lack of interest of some of the members in the other room, and relative position above the ground and the fact that it seems to be closing, or the martian winds are blowing it around, it is more likely it is part of the Curiosity assembly! Or where ever the HD camera was stationed!



                  Most likely the HD camera popped up after reentry, and beamed back the real life video to the satellites above!

                  Shane
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              • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


                I won't even mention the weird rock shapes on the right of this!
                True to the law of infinity you could quite literally have rocks the shape of any object known to man and beyond...
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  True to the law of infinity you could quite literally have rocks the shape of any object known to man and beyond...
                  Damm, just found this one!!!! :rolleyes:



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                  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
                    Not only could you have the possibility of a rock in the shape of a can of Coke on Mars, you could also have an actual can of Coke complete with contents.

                    You could also have a washing machine and a trombone. All present at the same time on Mars together with that can of Coke.

                    In the infinite universe everything that can possibly happen will happen at some point without question.
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                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                      Latest pics, more weird stuff....



                      Nothing much, but when l zoom in....



                      Hopefully this is just a rock, or a statue of some kind?



                      Hmmmm, just a rock, or an animal of some kind? Normaly l would say a rock, but there is more evidence to support this being something out of the ordinary!



                      Similar design to the one above, whatever it is?



                      The contrast of colours make this a hard one to dismiss as being a rock. Looks more like a part off a larger machine.



                      More green algae, sigh, l wish NASA would get a move on with the big microbes in the soil announcement. l am getting inpatient!!!

                      Shane
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                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                        Latest photo, more interesting stuff! :rolleyes:



                        Had to crop this photo, too big, but l circled something interesting.



                        looks like a sculpture or a face, (l know a face is a face, etc,) but the left hand side stripes, similar to an Egyptian face make it more compelling!

                        From what l have heard Curiosity is digging a hole, NASA seems to be stalling with the life announcement???

                        So, what else is new, oh, well, they may see a UFO in their back yard if they keep stalling!

                        Shane
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                            Originally Posted by Thomas View Post

                            Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
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                            • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                              Thanks Thomas, seriously weird.

                              Martian bird bath sculpture perhaps?

                              Tough to dismiss as natural, but it's still possible? :confused:




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                              • Profile picture of the author Thomas
                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                Thanks Thomas, seriously weird.

                                Martian bird bath sculpture perhaps?

                                Tough to dismiss as natural, but it's still possible? :confused:
                                Could be a piece of the rover itself, or part of the skycrane that put it there, though you'd imagine that would be some distance away by now. After all, the stated destination of the rover is the mountain in the middle of the crater, and it has (presumably) been trundling it's way there since it landed nearly 6 months ago.

                                Personally, I think some Martian driver lost a piece of his gear box when driving by.
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                                • Profile picture of the author myob
                                  The bird bath may have actually been built by avid Martian bird watchers from back in the day.
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                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
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                                      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

                                      That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?

                                      I believe it was called the "Boston" update, but I may be wrong.


                                      Boston -- February 2003

                                      Announced at SES Boston, this was the first named Google update. Originally, Google aimed at a major monthly update, so the first few updates were a combination of algorithm changes and major index refreshes (the so-called "Google Dance"). As updates became more frequent, the monthly idea quickly died.
                                      Quoted from >>>http://moz.com/google-algorithm-change#2003<<<

                                      I only looked it up because a friend told me about it the other day.
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                            • Profile picture of the author Thomas
                              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                              Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
                              I wouldn't know, Sal - and Ireland isn't exactly known for its deserts, so the only place I ever see sand is the beach... and that ain't no beach.
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                              Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                              Looks like SW Wyoming to me.
                              More like Central Wyoming...which BTW is where Starship Troopers was filmed:

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                              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                More like Central Wyoming...which BTW is where Starship Troopers was filmed:

                                Starship Troopers,Battle at Whiskey Outpost - YouTube
                                Another interesting fact from Kurt o'pedia. I didn't know that one but now had to watch the video just to see it. LOL.

                                It could pass for parts of NV, too.

                                Edit -- holy crap - where in Cent WY is that? South central? That looks like a damned good place to go hunt some rock. I want to go!
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                                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                                  Another interesting fact from Kurt o'pedia. I didn't know that one but now had to watch the video just to see it. LOL.

                                  It could pass for parts of NV, too.

                                  Edit -- holy crap - where in Cent WY is that? South central? That looks like a damned good place to go hunt some rock. I want to go!
                                  The movie was filmed between Shoshoni and Casper on Highway 20, closer to Shoshoni, but the whole stretch looks just like that.

                                  I think it's about 90 miles, if I remember correctly, and there's no services between Shoshoni and Casper, so fill up the tank. Rocks are about the only thing you'll find there...except for some redneck relatives of mine.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
                                    A fox ate it!!! :rolleyes:

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                                  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                                    Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                                    The movie was filmed between Shoshoni and Casper on Highway 20, closer to Shoshoni, but the whole stretch looks just like that.

                                    I think it's about 90 miles, if I remember correctly, and there's no services between Shoshoni and Casper, so fill up the tank. Rocks are about the only thing you'll find there...except for some redneck relatives of mine.
                                    Okay - I hunted south of Shoshoni. That's why it looks familiar. Still could be parts of NV, too.

                                    Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.
                                    There's nothing even remotely natural looking about that thing. Some of even the shiny stuff just looks like big metal crystals to me. Out in the field I've seen all sorts of metals and they can get pretty wildly shaped and there's a lot of rock that will shine - but nothing natural ever even remotely even started to look like that thing.

                                    Some of those other pics look like they are definitely life forms. But what would they eat or drink? It would be one bizarre organism structure. Of course, I would think we'd expect that to be the case. Also - if there's still liquid water under the surface, they might just burrow. Burrowing life forms might explain some other features in these pics.
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                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                          Latest photo, more interesting stuff! :rolleyes:







                          looks like a sculpture or a face, (l know a face is a face, etc,) but the left hand side stripes, similar to an Egyptian face make it more compelling!

                          From what l have heard Curiosity is digging a hole, NASA seems to be stalling with the life announcement???

                          So, what else is new, oh, well, they may see a UFO in their back yard if they keep stalling!

                          Shane
                          Shane - that looks very natural. In fact it looks volcanic. What catches my attention is the little guy sitting at it's bottom right that looks like a little bat with its wings folded. Now that looks live to me.
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                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
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                            Obviously some of this is background stuff, although the pipe type structure is compelling, (sticking out the top). But the two perfect circles on the side are the toughest to dismiss as natural.
                            There's nothing even remotely natural looking about that thing. Some of even the shiny stuff just looks like big metal crystals to me. Out in the field I've seen all sorts of metals and they can get pretty wildly shaped and there's a lot of rock that will shine - but nothing natural ever even remotely even started to look like that thing.


                            Yep, l agree, it is pushing the natural part! I enhanced it as far as possible, (bubble image) and there is clearly structure there, and it also has legs supporting this thing, as is shown by the shadow on the left hand structure. The material covering it looks like wood, or a very strong thin fabric.

                            And the left hand opening is circular as well, hmmmm, l wish NASA would pull their finger out, and go check some of this stuff out!

                            But what is even more remarkable is the structure on the right! It looks remarkably like an entrance of some kind, or a transport pad?

                            Shane - that looks very natural. In fact it looks volcanic. What catches my attention is the little guy sitting at it's bottom right that looks like a little bat with its wings folded. Now that looks live to me.


                            Hmmmmm, could be? :confused:

                            NASA scientists have said that there is water on the surface, they are 95% sure that microbes are in the soil, what is the holdup???

                            They are also ignoring the green algae, occasional possible life forms, and the fact that they got the air pressure wrong, (see above). As well as possible structures.

                            It seems that they are on the verge, but are probably scared of widespread ligation, or court action, that might cause a major restructure of NASA, (weed out the rotten apples finally) since Viking did similar tests, with positive results, then was covered up or denied.


                            So, my guess is they will drill a deep hole or something like that and say they found it that way, or it was too deep for Viking, etc missions to pick it up, blah, blah!

                            Fair enough, they have dug themselves into such a deep hole they need to cover themselves legally!

                            As long as they and the media finally announce something!!!

                            Shane :rolleyes:
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                                Now, this is proof of life. Hood ornaments on Mars. Could be an old Mustang, but I'm not sure ...

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                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                  Now, this is proof of life. Hood ornaments on Mars. Could be an old Mustang, but I'm not sure ...

                                  NASA's Curiosity Rover Finds Weird 'Hood Ornament' on Mars - Yahoo! News
                                  Yep, thanks Jeff, details of that one are on the first thread, hood ornament or bird bath, doesn't seem like a slam dunk!

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                                  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                    That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
                                    Well, after stumbling across this one, Mars may have cats or foxes! Explains why l couldn't find any more rabbits?

                                    This is the best l could do, from the HD video below, and not surprisingly NASA has held back on releasing the original images. :rolleyes:





                                    These two images were taken from slightly different angles, and clearly show ears, eyes, nose and arms, etc.

                                    So Curiosity hasn't killed the cat, yet, (please don't post that one again, LOL) but with any luck it will run over something like this, then the cat really will be let out of the bag!

                                    Seems more and more likely that Mars is an arid planet, like AU, outback, but probably has more fertile areas as well!

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                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                      Also looks like Mars is getting crowded, and other countries are launching their own, secret missions!

                                      Makes sense, cover it up, and you don't have any coverup issues, and you are free to checkout anything interesting!!!

                                      A hacker, got into NASA's database, l get this one, and he claims he has more!

                                      Clearly from the dust, and tracks, this rover is moving, and looks Russian to me? Compact design, seems to have a dish on top, etc!



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                                      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                                        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                        Also looks like Mars is getting crowded, and other countries are launching their own, secret missions!

                                        Makes sense, cover it up, and you don't have any coverup issues, and you are free to checkout anything interesting!!!

                                        A hacker, got into NASA's database, l get this one, and he claims he has more!

                                        Clearly from the dust, and tracks, this rover is moving, and looks Russian to me? Compact design, seems to have a dish on top, etc!



                                        Shane
                                        That looks like a SUV on the Playa. If not - it's photoshop.
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                                          Clearly shows? That thing is too blurred to show anything clearly. This one is a toss out.
                                          Hmmmm, tough audience!

                                          Well, l wouldn't toss this out, since whatever this is, it looks remarkably like a fox, so l will put this in the compelling basket!


                                          That looks like a SUV on the Playa. If not - it's photoshop.
                                          Yep, since NASA won't re release the image, it could be fake, but again it might not be?

                                          Russia launched a mission to land on Phobos, one of Mars moons on 2011, and collect samples to return to Earth. Since landing on one of the moons requires little fuel, very weak gravity, it is possible that they piggybacked this rover as well. Explains why it is compact in design.

                                          If this is genuine, and it isn't someones washing machine/go-cart Photoshopped onto a C-rover image, then it means that there could be something seriously compelling about this area?

                                          The sooner NASA pulls their finger out the better!

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                                              The plot thickens....

                                              Curiosity rover finds organic compounds, but are they from Mars? - Cosmic Log

                                              Unfortunately l found this one as well!!!!

                                              Curiosity starts quarter-mile journey that could reveal secrets of Mars | Science | The Observer

                                              Crap! So much for the big announcement, now l am seriously P**** off!!!

                                              But this one may just dig down 2 metres and announce something!!!! So l won't give up hope!!!

                                              20 + years of NASA coverups and BS, let's hope a UFO lands in Washington somewhere!!!! :rolleyes:



                                              Their colour!



                                              True colour. Funny thing about both images is you can see the blue sky reflected in the wheels!



                                              Interesting images of the dry lake bed Curiosity was driving near or through. Spotted these images that look like a petrified fish of some kind!



                                              Martian rock or fossilized fish?



                                              Nothing much in this image, l just thought that it was cool! But it does show the bright blue sky reflecting off the rocks. Just another sunny day on Mars!

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                                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

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                                                Martian rock or fossilized fish?

                                                Shane
                                                DUDE! HOLY COW -- I just blew this one up a tad and that rock you thought could be a fossilized fish? It's freaking Agate! No lie - nothing else looks like agate (to my eye anyhow - which happens to be pretty well trained. I'm known for being able to spot an agate at 100 paces). Listen - those poorly formed circles are pure chalcedony. They're also hollow or clear centered. That means they could be fossilized type stuff - but most likely not since there was obviously some sort of percolating action since there's so many other orbicular rocks. It is definitely agate though and it looks like a bizzaro great specimen of tubular agate. Which means - silicon and water, for one thing.

                                                Man, I wonder if they have any seats open for the next trip - I want that rock! It would make some absolutely awesome slabs.
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                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                  Man, I wonder if they have any seats open for the next trip - I want that rock! It would make some absolutely awesome slabs.
                                                  Hmmm, in 2030 an entranapeur wants to send people there on a one way trip, if he gets enough funding? Might be one option!

                                                  What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
                                                  Yep, that's NASA for you, avoid anything controversial, and go for boring or mildly interesting!


                                                  When l scoured the raw images trying to find the image from different angles of the top image thing, l came across some more tubular structures, not as conclusive as the top image but certainly visible!

                                                  After the feedback l got l deleted those ones, but don't worry they weren't anything to get excited about, but l will dig up the top image and try to find some more fascinating stuff!

                                                  If this is space junk, then Russian parts is the only possible thing, apart from alien junk, past missions before earthlings had a nuclear war, etc... :rolleyes:

                                                  And someone at NASA said the blue colouring was caused by Aluminum oxides, or something like that?

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                                                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                    Hmmm, in 2030 an entranapeur wants to send people there on a one way trip, if he gets enough funding? Might be one option!
                                                    I'd prefer Sal to go on a return trip.

                                                    However, there are a couple of former members of this forum to whose one-way trip expenses I'll glady and generously contribute myself, if this plan comes to fruition.
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                                                    Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                                                    What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
                                                    I can answer that: it's almost entirely due to the fact that missions like Curiousity take a very long time from conception to launch (typically 10-15 years). In order to be able to advance things at a reasonable rate, the technology used is basically 'set in stone' at an early stage. The 2 megapixel cameras (and 8GB of flash memory) used on this rover were pretty good way back in 2003, but, now, in 2013, you'd get better (by far) on a cheap mobile phone. However, if they kept changing the specs to accomodate new technological advancements before launch, it would never be launched.

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                                                    If this is space junk, then Russian parts is the only possible thing, apart from alien junk, past missions before earthlings had a nuclear war, etc...
                                                    I always wondered about the last Russian mission to Mars, which they said was lost shortly after launch and crash-landed somewhere in the Pacific, though no remains were ever located (even though at least part of it should have survived).

                                                    How easy would it be (probably not very) to say, "Uh oh! Sorry everyone... we've had an accident... the mission is lost" even if it hasn't been? You'd then be free to continue on your way to explore whatever goodies you think are out there without having to face demands from those pesky taxpayers to at least show them some pictures in return for the hundreds of billions of roubles of their money you spent on it.

                                                    There's a new conspiracy theory for your consideration!

                                                    Incidentally, the Russians are VERY interested in Mars and, perhaps even more so, Phobos, the Martian moon. I don't know if anyone else remembers the infamous "Phobos 2 Incident" where a Russian probe of that name was cut off mid-transmission when it was approaching Phobos, and suddenly began wildly spinning out of control, as if hit by something. The last transmission (the part that was received) was classified, though the picture below (which looks like an infrared image) is (supposedly) at least a portion of it:



                                                    The irregular object is Phobos.

                                                    The (seemingly massive) cylindrical object is unexplained.
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                                                    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                      I always wondered about the last Russian mission to Mars, which they said was lost shortly after launch and crash-landed somewhere in the Pacific, though no remains were ever located (even though at least part of it should have survived).

                                                      How easy would it be (probably not very) to say, "Uh oh! Sorry everyone... we've had an accident... the mission is lost" even if it hasn't been? You'd then be free to continue on your way to explore whatever goodies you think are out there without having to face demands from those pesky taxpayers to at least show them some pictures in return for the hundreds of billions of roubles of their money you spent on it.

                                                      There's a new conspiracy theory for your consideration!
                                                      Well the Russians, might be playing hide and seek, but the UK might be in on the act as well! They said the Beagle probe crashed or landed in a crevice, but maybe not?

                                                      Maybe it landed near an alien statue, etc, and they had to say it crashed?

                                                      I know it could have also been squashed by a Transformer, (l have seen the last one, or second last)? LOL! :p

                                                      Shane

                                                      PS eventhough the tech, might be a bit old, as the rovers demonstrated, with the Mars statue, previous mission, instead of going to take a closer look, they, (NASA officials) instead said it was erosion of a rock, etc!

                                                      I know that if l spent $100,000 plus sending two rovers to Mars and one see's something that looks like a statue, of course l would take a closer look, etc.

                                                      But since the military owns or runs NASA, all the good stuff is kept at arms length!!!!

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                                                      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                        Ok, you are going to like this one! First shot shows what looks like a bomb, (probably a rock, but?) but while l was putting this together l saw something else, and l am still getting over the shock!!!!

                                                        These were taken from Curiosity raw images, front cam, (l can dig up the sol, if pushed into a corner). :rolleyes:

                                                        First image!



                                                        Notice anything else??? I was wondering why NASA took so many shots of this area, but as you will see, this is why.....



                                                        Still can't see it, here are some closer shots!



                                                        Yep, its a creek, with water!!! I thought that it was probably the shadows of the rocks, but there is too much evidence going against it...

                                                        Apart from white streaks here and there, showing that it is flowing fairly quickly, there is also a reflection on the above right hand rock! Its suttle, but there!







                                                        This shows the start of the creek, with reflections and whiter areas indicating water traveling down. And this shot also shows that it isn't the shadow of the rocks!



                                                        And if that wasn't enough this image also picked up plants, or what looks like reeds?



                                                        This image further down shows longer ones! I thought that these may be pixel errors, but there are plenty of areas that don't have these things.

                                                        But remember that NASA officials publicly said that water existed on Mars surface, so this is perfectly viable! Probably a spring, since as far as we know, Mars doesn't have rain?

                                                        And also demonstrates, that NASA is intentionally holding back the ground breaking stuff like this to the American Public and the world. And is studying stuff like this from a distance, so people don't catch on!

                                                        Shane

                                                        PS couldn't find anything else near the water, but if you spot a rabbit, etc let me know! LOL.
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                                                          Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                          Yep, its a creek, with water!!!
                                                          Bit of a long bow drawn there. It may indeed be a "creek", but there's no evidence at all that what flowed there was water. It could have been lava or any number of liquified substances.
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                                                          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                            Why does that lake look like it has a road leading to a parking lot on the one side of it. You could get the same shot from many of the reservoirs out here. Some are just as barren of vegetation as that one appears to be, too. Some of those shots of the stream seem to have a lot of green, but is too pixilated to see what it is.

                                                            The blue rock doesn't really intrigue me that much - there's plenty that look just like that on earth.
                                                            Hmmm, more likely a gulley, when it overflowed?

                                                            Bit of a long bow drawn there. It may indeed be a "creek", but there's no evidence at all that what flowed there was water. It could have been lava or any number of liquified substances.
                                                            True it may not be water, but whatever it is, it reflects like water, and has mud mixed in with it, like water, and is transparent like water, so l will stick with water!

                                                            Remember that NASA officials have publicly said, that they saw 2 to 3 swimming pools of water, flowing down the side of a crater! Which means water, is trapped below the surface, and occasionally or continually comes to the surface!

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                                                              Hmmm, odd's on its water! :p

                                                              The second red arrow shows some moss growing out of the rock, possibly indicating a wet or damp area!

                                                              The third arrow on the right is showing some weird rock; looks like a petrified piece of wood? Any ideas Sal? :rolleyes:

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                                                                Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post


                                                                Hmmm, odd's on its water! :p
                                                                ..................................
                                                                Any ideas Sal? :rolleyes:

                                                                Shane
                                                                Um...Dude. Right now I am so totally stoked you would not believe it.

                                                                You wouldn't believe the time I've spent looking at this picture. It's incredible.

                                                                As far as water - it looks like there was at one time. Those rocks are incredible. It looks like they contain a lot of calcite or chalcedony, and that means water at one time. The matrix appears to be a sedimentary - looks like mud stone on earth looks. Mud stone can get pretty hard. Put enough silicon in it and you can come up with jaspers, agate, opals. If there was life there that got buried in that silt when it died, there well could be fossil. You're not going to point to something up in new trerrain and say "petrified wood" - you have to be right on top of wood to see that it's petrified in the rough - other fossil types sometimes, too. I am going to say that there's a good possibility if there was water and life there once, that it's a very possible environment right there to find them in. But that's not what's cranking my sails at the moment..........

                                                                It's the transparent cylinder that wigged me. Okay - look in the black circle I drew left/center near the top. There are two rocks beside each other - the one on the right is bigger. Now look at where those rocks come together. If you look a little up, there's a shadow under an oval looking rock - and if you follow your eye down from there you can see two faint lines that descend from the sides of that oval. If you magnify that pic - you can see that the lines run right in front of those two rocks - and that the rocks are actually behind it. You can also see that the oval rock itself look like a lid that is sitting open just a bit. I'd swear that's a transparent tube - and not a natural one. Freaked me out something furious when I saw it. This is all the more I could blow it up without it pixilating, but hit your control plus a few times and you might be able to see the whole thing. It comes out of the ground just right of the little light colored rock under the rock on the left.
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                                                                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                                                                  Hmmmm, yep my carcass is here, LOL!



                                                                  I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.

                                                                  Pity about the other rock, could have opened up some exciting possibilities.

                                                                  The main thing that has my attention is the moss growing out of the white rock. If it is anything like earth moss, then it indicates moisture! And since it isn't dry or dead looking, it may indicate constant moisture or water!




                                                                  Only a matter of time before Curiosity makes a mistake and drives over or near, a stream, puddle, etc.

                                                                  I will post here when something crops up.

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                                                                    Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                                                    Hmmmm, yep my carcass is here, LOL!



                                                                    I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.

                                                                    Pity about the other rock, could have opened up some exciting possibilities.

                                                                    The main thing that has my attention is the moss growing out of the white rock. If it is anything like earth moss, then it indicates moisture! And since it isn't dry or dead looking, it may indicate constant moisture or water!




                                                                    Only a matter of time before Curiosity makes a mistake and drives over or near, a stream, puddle, etc.

                                                                    I will post here when something crops up.

                                                                    Shane
                                                                    Why isn't this BREAKING NEWS on every news channel in the world.
                                                                    I mean, this is amazing, isn't it?
                                                                    I knew there was supposed to be water under the surface, but this is (for me anyway) solid proof that there is water on the surface of Mars.

                                                                    Great work, tagiscom!
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                                      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

                                      Well, after stumbling across this one, Mars may have cats or foxes! Explains why l couldn't find any more rabbits?

                                      This is the best l could do, from the HD video below, and not surprisingly NASA has held back on releasing the original images. :rolleyes:

                                      UFO Breaking News!! Alien Life Discovered in Mars UFO 2013. by Ofuhunter - YouTube




                                      These two images were taken from slightly different angles, and clearly show ears, eyes, nose and arms, etc.

                                      So Curiosity hasn't killed the cat, yet, (please don't post that one again, LOL) but with any luck it will run over something like this, then the cat really will be let out of the bag!

                                      Seems more and more likely that Mars is an arid planet, like AU, outback, but probably has more fertile areas as well!

                                      Shane
                                      Clearly shows? That thing is too blurred to show anything clearly. This one is a toss out.
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    That looks like a petrified fish? Okay. The only thing I've seen petrified that bears even a remote resemblance to that is the Seazoria Dragon. I'm not sure what people see in a few of these pics. There are a few that have really been obvious - but sometimes I think people start pointing to anything and everything - just getting way too imaginative.
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      That looks like a petrified fish? Okay. The only thing I've seen petrified that bears even a remote resemblance to that is the Seazoria Dragon. I'm not sure what people see in a few of these pics. There are a few that have really been obvious - but sometimes I think people start pointing to anything and everything - just getting way too imaginative.
      Yep, that's true, l found a few more, that were too iffy to put here, l only try to post when l find something compelling!


      I have found others on YouTube, that put up anything and call it a life form! And it's pretty obvious it isn't or it is so dodgy it is more likely it's nothing out of the ordinary!


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        Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

        Nothing you've posted so far is even remotely compelling. They're all simply rock forms that happen to look something vaguely similar to stuff we have on Earth.

        Don't get me wrong, I want to believe (truly), but you're going to have to do a lot better than you have so far to convince me.

        Many years ago I worked in the Outback (near Meekatharra in case you're interested), and I found many rock formations that looked like other stuff.

        Same as your "compelling" "evidence". It's just rocks that look like stuff. Nothing more, nothing less.
        Okay - I'm out in all sorts of rocky terrain all the time. It's my forte. I agree that most of the pics take some imagination, and a few I can't even get enough imagination to call anything but a rock formation...........but..........
        Take another look at the photo in post #51 - it's on he first page a few times, too, if you want different views of it.

        I'm sorry - that's not natural. I've seen natural tubes in rock, I've seen perfect spheres of rock, rock that looks like holes were actually drilled in rock but were natural - and different formations of natural metals. You will never convince me that there is anything in nature whatsoever that even closely resembles that thing.
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          You will never convince me that there is anything in nature whatsoever that even closely resembles that thing.
          Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
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            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
            I admit I did wonder about this, too.

            I agree that as we're seeing the photo, that one doesn't look "natural", but (a) that's also been true, previously, of countless NASA photos of the moon which turned out to have entirely "innocent explanations", and (b) without knowing how much it's been "corrected" before we're seeing it, to try to illustrate what's being alleged here, it's pretty difficult even to discuss, isn't it? :confused:
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              I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C. Even in the depths of winter, there was never a minus day.

              Where exactly are these "typical" figures you quoted taken from, apart from the obvious?
              What is the Temperature of Mars? | Space.com


              Nothing you've posted so far is even remotely compelling. They're all simply rock forms that happen to look something vaguely similar to stuff we have on Earth.
              Well, you have a point, but, l thought that the image showing Mars blue sky, and green algae in the front was pretty compelling! :rolleyes:

              Obviously the rocks looking like this and that is more speculative, although some as Heysal has said, are worth further investigation!



              Interesting thing about this one, (we will ignore the fox part) is the same hollow tubes are present in the rock, (left hand image, front of rock) and seemed to be covered up by something in the other image.

              I agree that as we're seeing the photo, that one doesn't look "natural", but (a) that's also been true, previously, of countless NASA photos of the moon which turned out to have entirely "innocent explanations", and (b) without knowing how much it's been "corrected" before we're seeing it, to try to illustrate what's being alleged here, it's pretty difficult even to discuss, isn't it?
              Hmmm, l scoured Mars Curiosity raw photos for the handful above, but l will go back through the images around the tube structure, may find something else!


              And for the record l did find a parrot type rock, but dismissed it as being too dodgy to post!


              There's a fine line between dodgy rock and compelling something else, but l will do my best!!! :rolleyes:


              Shane ...

              PS where l got the outback av, temp,...

              http://www.outback-australia-travel-...peratures.html
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            Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

            Could it be space debris that landed on Mars? A wayward piece of an Earth satellite perhaps?
            There are only a few choices if it's not natural. Either someone THERE made it, something fell through the atomosphere (space trash) from somewhere, or someone from somewhere else beat us there. That brings us all the way back to the argument about other beings somewhere. As far as I'm gonna get into that one is that I really highly doubt with 99% certainty that thing is natural.
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    I scanned all the pictures, I'd like to keep track of this development too. Good thing I stumbled upon this forum thread, very interesting.
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    I wish all these photos are real, if not, I wish NASA could install some CCTVs on Mars when they will have an upcoming mission over there.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      I wish all these photos are real, if not, I wish NASA could install some CCTVs on Mars when they will have an upcoming mission over there.
      CCTVs on Mars??? :confused: If you mean more cameras on their space craft, then l couldn't agree more. Unfortunately as l have shown with the "Sky blue thread," (at the start of this post) we won't see it!!! :rolleyes:

      Only a handful of a**** in NASA, will see the truly exciting stuff! But a millionaire wants to go to Mars in the next 10 years, and is planning to launch a probe or rover to the red planet in a few years time, to find a likely landing site for a manned landing.

      He will beam back and run experiments, to show the world what is really there, and l am sure if his rover see's some weird stuff in the distance, he won't run and hide like NASA is currently doing, but will take a closer look!

      True most of these photos are up for debate, but a handful, like the blue sky and algae past rover mission photos, show at the very least, Mars has a blue sky, plant life, (albeit primitive) and can support water on its service. It also very likely has high oxygen levels, and can support animal life, but l can't conclusively prove that one at this time!

      Although it seems likely! :p

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    Shane - do you know anything about surface or air temps there?
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Shane - do you know anything about surface or air temps there?
      Yep, typical temp, at the equator, or where Curiosity almost is, is minus 100 C at night and plus 20 c during a sunny day!

      Although this is based on models that say Mars has a very thin atmosphere and can't retain any heat?


      Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!


      So Mars is freezing at night, but not to the point that nothing living couldn't survive.

      And l suspect that since Mars has a blue sky, and wispy high altitude clouds, some heat is probably retained!

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      • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!
        Having worked in the outback (see above), I'm not sure where you got those "typical" figures from.

        I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C. Even in the depths of winter, there was never a minus day.

        Where exactly are these "typical" figures you quoted taken from?
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          Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

          I experienced temperatures in Summer ranging from 58C to 25C. In winter they ranged from about 25C to 5C.
          I should add that on the one day that reached 58C, the thermometer was out in the direct sunlight, so it wasn't an "official" temperature. Official temperatures are always recorded with the thermometer in the shade.

          Nevertheless, there were quite a few days that were officially in the mid to high 40's.
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        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Australian outback temp, are typically 30 c during the day and -25 c at night!
        You must be thinking of Siberia, I think? Shane, this can't possibly be anywhere close to correct at all! Winter nights, when exceptionally cold there, can be just below zero: Australian Outback Temperatures - Monthly Temperature Averages

        This needs to be "corrected" (just like those photos!), if you want it to illustrate your purported point. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Shane - I did some messing with the pic in #76 - gamma correction, saturation, different color concentration, contrast, etc. It appears natural. There seems to be a lot of orbicular rock on the planet. That's not all that strange to me. There's a lot of it out here in the west, too.

    What is startling to me is the poor quality of the pictures. We could send a damned vehicle with a robot to another planet, but they can't get better pictures than this? What's up with that?
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    Why does that lake look like it has a road leading to a parking lot on the one side of it. You could get the same shot from many of the reservoirs out here. Some are just as barren of vegetation as that one appears to be, too. Some of those shots of the stream seem to have a lot of green, but is too pixilated to see what it is.

    The blue rock doesn't really intrigue me that much - there's plenty that look just like that on earth.
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    That's not moss - it's the color of the rock - it looks agatized or opalized. Nothing organic at all.

    You can't see the lines of the tube under that "lid" that I circled? The one under the ledge is just a rock in shadow - there is a tube under the other one. Look close - blow it up and you can see it more detailed. If I could post that blow up I've got you'd be able to see it, but I had to make the pic bigger then hit the magnify feature a couple of times to be sure what I was seeing.

    I just checked - hit "control +" twice and you will be able to see what I'm saying. It blows it up just enough to really see it.
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    It's NOT moss -- It's the color of the rock -- I could show you exxamples of what it looks like right from earth. This isn't an odd coloration or formation for this type of minerals/rock. It's bigger than I've seen here - but it's not different.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Phew, took a lot of effort to find it, hard to say whether it is the reflection off the water, or a tube?

      The rock near it, also add's to the mystery?



      You are right about the moss, it is a mineral of some kind, looks like jade or green opal!

      Congratulations, on finding the first valuable mineral on Mars! You will need to come up with a name?

      Maybe "Saljade"? :rolleyes:

      But l will name the creek, "Jade Gulley"! LOL

      Why isn't this BREAKING NEWS on every news channel in the world.
      I mean, this is amazing, isn't it?
      I knew there was supposed to be water under the surface, but this is (for me anyway) solid proof that there is water on the surface of Mars.

      Great work, tagiscom!
      Yep, you would think so, but Curiosity, just keeps moving forward, and avoids what Americans paid 2.5 billion to find???

      Congress needs to pressure NASA to turn the rover around and go check this out!!!


      Yep, it is amazing l got goosebumps when l first saw this! And still do; whats more amazing is that no one else spotted this, it has been in the raw data for weeks, possibly months, and l just stumbled across it! No YouTube videos???

      No, the media is under someone else s control, and NASA takes orders from the military. So because of litigation, and NASA getting overhauled and the loss of control crap, this exciting stuff is buried!

      It won't be buried forever, one day!

      This is one of the reasons why world gov, want to control the internet, stop people like me, finding the truth!

      Or especially stop the masses from finding this sort of stuff?

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    I would love to say it is, but when you compare it to the other distorted lines, it just looks like a rock that got lucky and was in the exact spot to make it look like it was the opening to an advanced alien transparent tube.
    I just looked at the pic I put on my own computer - played with the contrast a little more and I can still see the tube but I don't think it's transparent - it looks like it's wedged against the rock on the right, not in front of it. I can see it better though when I do things to the pic like change the contrast or coloring. I didn't see it at all until I was looking at that big ledge across the center of the pic. There's actually a rim around that "rock" I said looks like a lid.

    It's not jade (although there might be jade up there, who knows?). It very well could be opal. The white seams look like either agate or opal. Looks glassy enough to be opal, but I've seen more chalcedony (agate) in seams like that than opal. Agate and opal are very close in chemical composition - but agate isn't as brittle. The way there are cracks running here and there along it, makes it look brittle enough to be opal. Definitely would like to see clearer pictures. I'm only able to blow this up so far between OO draw and Irfanview to get a decent enough look at it to be able to SEE what I'm looking at. When the pics get as blurred as the one in your last post, it's kind of a waste of the eyes and time to bother looking at them. That's why I took it off here and played with it on my own machine. I had to cut the size back down on the pic I put in here and things don't show as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      No it is not moss, I have been examining the photo quite extensively and came to the conclusion that it is Micheal Jackson.
      Micheal Jackson being sick perhaps? :rolleyes:

      I just looked at the pic I put on my own computer - played with the contrast a little more and I can still see the tube but I don't think it's transparent - it looks like it's wedged against the rock on the right, not in front of it. I can see it better though when I do things to the pic like change the contrast or coloring. I didn't see it at all until I was looking at that big ledge across the center of the pic. There's actually a rim around that "rock" I said looks like a lid.
      Yep, took another good squeeze, it doesn't look anything like the surrounding water gulleys, and as you were saying is a tube shape, (from the highlight) and also has copper strips. Hinting that it is artificial.

      Nice catch on that one, totally missed it, probably because l was getting over the water shock!

      But l will still call it Jade Gulley, has a nice ring to it!!! :rolleyes:

      It's not jade (although there might be jade up there, who knows?). It very well could be opal. The white seams look like either agate or opal. Looks glassy enough to be opal, but I've seen more chalcedony (agate) in seams like that than opal. Agate and opal are very close in chemical composition - but agate isn't as brittle. The way there are cracks running here and there along it, makes it look brittle enough to be opal. Definitely would like to see clearer pictures. I'm only able to blow this up so far between OO draw and Irfanview to get a decent enough look at it to be able to SEE what I'm looking at. When the pics get as blurred as the one in your last post, it's kind of a waste of the eyes and time to bother looking at them. That's why I took it off here and played with it on my own machine. I had to cut the size back down on the pic I put in here and things don't show as well.
      There are also tubes across the top of this, Opal, which shows that there was a lot of water in this area in the past!

      Just went through the images again and found something else...



      Remember how l said that they should go and have a closer look, l think they have, but just blocked the images, etc from the general public.

      Take a look at the middle, left part of the picture, looks like a Curiosity wheel track to me!

      Makes sense, find something that looks like a flowing creek, encrypt the images and take a closer look. No doubt NASA has all the high res, close up pictures of this! Guaranteed that if they got bogged, they would make up some crap about the 10 cameras malfunctioning, until they got free.

      Arrrrrgggggg At least we have these!

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    That's one of my peeves with this also is that there is nothing that we can use for size references. As far as the wheel track - same thing I said about their little pond - reservoir or whatever - it looked like an old road running along the side of it.

    Also - that old creek bed in the other pic? How do we know its not seasonly full? There are a lot of creeks out here in the west that only exist as creeks during the rainy season. That might still have running water at different seasons of the year. When was the rover taking this pic and in what hemisphere? Was it winter or summer or what? I think these pictures are pretty indicative that someone was there before us - might even be there somewhere. All we've been shown is desert shots. That does NOT mean the whole planet is a desert. It means that what they show us are pics of the desert. I just wonder if who was there was indigenous or came in from elsewhere to do some exploring.

    Well, I've seen enough to know that there is rock there that really is a flip out for a rockhound. I imagine there are geologists who have the inside tract to the NASA photos that are just drooling over a chance to go pick some of those up in person. I presume they have better pics of the non-natural things laying around there, too. Kinda sucks to be an outsider when stuff like this is going on. As many contacts I have in the science fields - I'll never get into the inside track on this one. Damn it.

    By the way - where are you pulling these pics from? I'd like to browse through them myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      That's one of my peeves with this also is that there is nothing that we can use for size references. As far as the wheel track - same thing I said about their little pond - reservoir or whatever - it looked like an old road running along the side of it.
      They occasionally do 3D ones, or ones where you can use the old 3D glasses.

      Also - that old creek bed in the other pic? How do we know its not seasonly full? There are a lot of creeks out here in the west that only exist as creeks during the rainy season. That might still have running water at different seasons of the year. When was the rover taking this pic and in what hemisphere? Was it winter or summer or what? I think these pictures are pretty indicative that someone was there before us - might even be there somewhere. All we've been shown is desert shots. That does NOT mean the whole planet is a desert. It means that what they show us are pics of the desert. I just wonder if who was there was indigenous or came in from elsewhere to do some exploring.
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      It is winter on Mars, at present, and it landed up from the equator, somewhere? Google will give you the exact loc,.

      Yep, some areas on Mars could have a lot more than reeds and algae, if springs are possible, then lakes, etc could also exist! :p


      Well, I've seen enough to know that there is rock there that really is a flip out for a rockhound. I imagine there are geologists who have the inside tract to the NASA photos that are just drooling over a chance to go pick some of those up in person. I presume they have better pics of the non-natural things laying around there, too. Kinda sucks to be an outsider when stuff like this is going on. As many contacts I have in the science fields - I'll never get into the inside track on this one. Damn it.

      By the way - where are you pulling these pics from? I'd like to browse through them myself.
      Amm, go to this site..... Mars Science Laboratory: Raw Images

      And go to the camera...Mast Camera (Mastcam) this is the bottom, right hand side one.

      The Sol 194, are the ones where it was going up a hill and found Jade Creek!

      Or the date was roughly, 2013-02-25 09:36:36 UTC.

      And just click on the image a few times to get the wide screen version to scour for interesting stuff, or download!

      Didn't have time to get the exact images, but they are there somewhere! If you find something interesting, please post it here! And remember one of the other cameras takes close ups of rocks!



      Now, l am stoked as well, l saw the pipe, but interpreted the end of the pipe as a rock, now l get it!!!! :rolleyes:

      This thing has an end, and some kind of handles, so someone or something can or could position it!

      Best guess, it is used to drag water up from the natural spring below ground?

      Can't believe l missed that one???? :confused:

      Sweet!!! :p

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        That's where Google started off, y'know - with the "Parrot Update". But enough of this frivolity: I want to know what happened to the fluffy rabbit we were promised, who was also so "tough to dismiss"?
        Phew, took a lot of looking, but here is your rabbit again!



        The image on the left is probably 2 rabbits, by the two sets of ears, that l thought were reeds, (the image below shows this more clearly) and the one on the right, which is a lot more compelling, because the blurry image and cropped more detailed ones, have a time difference!



        So if anything moves, then it could be living. The image on the right moved, or its ears that look like reeds, moved from beside each other to apart, (top image). Hard to make out, whether we are seeing this thing from the front or back? But it's there!

        I was hoping to find something taking a drink, it looks like Mars has a good collection of small rodents, etc! Nothing big, but l have heard rumors!

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    Middle arrow looks like a coiled snake - and the one on the left looks like a turtle with eyes or ears on stalks or some such. Can't even let my imagination wander on the right arrow. It just looks blurry.
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      Yep the first on the left does look that way. Normally l would dismiss most of these, but the ears, tend to give them away! The earns are similar to the first rabbit images, (the ones around the rabbit video)!

      I would say that the second one, is looking at the rover, with it's tail curled around itself, like a cat!

      I also put both these images together and constantly pressed the display remove button, so l could spot any movement. The middle arrow, rabbit did move, in a substantial way or a way that was very unlikely caused by blurring.

      But since they all have earns, they are all open to being alive and kicking!

      At least when the millionaire sends people to Mars, they should carry a gun or rifle?

      Or a fishing line???? :confused:

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    I'm not sure what you mean that you see them moving. While I named animals they resemble, I don't find them much different to the other rocks around there. What do you mean "moving"?
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      I'm not sure what you mean that you see them moving. While I named animals they resemble, I don't find them much different to the other rocks around there. What do you mean "moving"?


      I mean that l put the more detailed image, (parts of it are above) over the blurry image above, and made one of the images transparent, so l could get both the pictures spot on. And then removed the image and bought it back, so l could spot anything moving. NASA may have used the same trick to see if anything was moving about, (take 2 images a few seconds, etc apart and compare the images to see if anything has moved).

      A bit like a PNG animation, but done manually! So when l did this with the right hand image above, there was too big a difference for it to be normal blur, and the ears being together for the blurry image, and apart for the more detailed one!

      The ears aren't easy to see, but they are there! The more distant image makes it easier to see, that the ear positions have changed, (end of thread 2)!

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        The ears aren't easy to see, but they are there!
        What do you think they're breathing, Shane? (The "animals", not their ears).

        How do you think they stay alive?
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          What do you think they're breathing, Shane? (The "animals", not their ears).

          How do you think they stay alive?
          Yeah, l know Mars atmosphere is supposed to be 98 C02, 2% Oxygen!

          This is according to NASA, who got the air pressure wrong, (at the air pressure they claim, there wouldn't be any sky colour, and water would boil away).

          They also said that Mars sky colour is red, grey, (clearly not true, thread one, sky colour thread link).

          And they said that they couldn't find out where the Methane is coming from, eventhough they are driving past plenty of green stuff that is producing it, (it can only come from animals, plants or volcanic activity, no volcanic activity has been found).


          And they drive past a creek with flowing water, and we don't hear a peep!!!! :confused:

          No, one third of Mars has some kind of plant matter, (l have only found algae, so far, but there could be more complex plants, etc) although, algae can produce oxygen!

          So, these animals, including us only need about 20% oxygen to breath, one third of Mars with oxygen producing algae, would be more than enough!


          NASA has B***S****, for so long, l tend to ignore their data, relating to life on Mars!

          Mars is only the tip of the iceberg, in regards to coverups, but l will stay with Mars for this post!

          Don't have time to do a Moon one!!! :rolleyes: And yeah, l agree that the Moon is lifeless, for the record!


          Just go through the entire thread again to see the reasons why l believe the oxygen levels are probably much higher than their data.

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    Man, that rock is just killin' me. Holy cow what I would give to stumble on something like that down here. I don't even need to see anything else - I just want to be there - even for just a day or two.

    Incidentally - the "rabbits"? Did you never read the nonsense thread in here? I don't think it's available in archives anymore but...........we were talking about fluffy internet bunnies on Mars years back so the site of anything resembling a rabbit is kinda freaky. This is a pic we did on my site years back - it was a real Mars pic from back then -- before all of these they have posted now.

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      Man, that rock is just killin' me. Holy cow what I would give to stumble on something like that down here. I don't even need to see anything else - I just want to be there - even for just a day or two.

      Incidentally - the "rabbits"? Did you never read the nonsense thread in here? I don't think it's available in archives anymore but...........we were talking about fluffy internet bunnies on Mars years back so the site of anything resembling a rabbit is kinda freaky. This is a pic we did on my site years back - it was a real Mars pic from back then -- before all of these they have posted now.
      LOL, yeah, l thought it might!!! No l didn't read the nonsense thread, on that one, don't think that l was a member back then?


      The top image with the thing near the rocky looking crab, is the thing that has got my attention! Because of the things coming out of it's top, and sides, with the two main ones going up on right angles, l am starting to think that this thing is living?

      Something the size of a cat, that is a cross between, a blob, and a snail, is seriously weird!

      Certainly gives the scientists that speculate about other life forms and how weird it could get, some credibility.


      There probably is other weird stuff, but this is all l could find at present, will have to go back to the Blob, Slug thing later. And post it here of course, if l find anything postworthy!

      It seems that truth is stranger than fiction in this case!

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    I've got no doubt there's still water around, but I seriously can't figure out the lack of vegetation. If there is life on the planet, what would it use for nutrition? Sand eaters? Maybe some small vegetation that doesn't show up in these pics. I haven't seen one pic from that planet that would give us one idea of what the lowest level of a food chain would consist of.
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      I've got no doubt there's still water around, but I seriously can't figure out the lack of vegetation. If there is life on the planet, what would it use for nutrition? Sand eaters? Maybe some small vegetation that doesn't show up in these pics. I haven't seen one pic from that planet that would give us one idea of what the lowest level of a food chain would consist of.
      LOL, funny you should mention that! I have gone through all the images l could find around Sol 194, (if l remember correctly) and have found tree like things, more bigger life forms, and other serious stuff, (l am still shaking, over this and the other stuff) l will post here asap!

      I will only say that if the popular media got hold of this stuff, it would scare a lot of people or even cause riots, etc.

      The only hint l will give is the blob type creature in previous shots, was eating the top of one of the tree like things, which are dotted across the landscape! Enough said!

      Shane

      And l will include this teaser image of Mars fossils!

      ------------VVV MAN VVV?


      I still can't figure out whether or not the top left hand thing is a man in a spacesuit?
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Ok, here we go! First off ignore the first blowup image, l thought it was something else?

        Second one shows a pool of water, with depth, and strange things growing around it. They look like a cross between a palm tree and a flamingo, or cotton wool? Must be edible by the blob creature, (previous image) and images below.

        The 3 lower images show a creature that looks like a nautalist, except it is on land, (and l have three of these image for the doubters).



        I thought that Sal would like this one, l know it is attached to a rock, but it looks like a metal can opener?



        Next we have more of this cotton wool, stuff, then we have two triangular things, might be living?

        The lower image might be a rock, but it seriously looks like a giant lizard leaning on a rock, watching some of this cotton wool stuff blowing in the wind.


        More cotton wool! This one is pretty obvious!



        Then we have more cotton wool and what looks like a bridge with a path! Mmmmmm?


        Then we catch up with some more of these blobby creatures, (you can tell by the eyes sticking out of it's head) scraping itself on the dirt, (might be feeding off something)? And more of the cotton wool.



        Now it starts to get serious! I heard leaked NASA personnel saying that up to one million earthlings were living on Mars? Initially l thought, yeah, what were they smoking at the time, but, check out the first blowup image; looks like a door of some kind, and if you doubt this l have another, same blue glass, similar design window coming up.

        Then we have some more cotton palms, and then we have this. Looks like someone is digging, etc!



        Next blownup image shows a silver thing, doesn't look like a rock to me!

        Second blownup image shows what looks like a clam!



        Then we have a crab, and the left hand image shows water over a rock outcrop!



        Then almost last we have top bu image, some more cotton palms blowing in the wind. Right hand image, a house of some kind, notice that the window color is the same as the previous door image.

        Then we have another rodent, and last of all is the icing on the cake. I have also heard reports that there were two capital cities on Mars, yeah, l know, but take a look at the bottom image.

        It shows one silver sphere, and another on top! considering the distance, this thing is big, it does have a base, and isn't a distortion. This structure is probably at least 10 or more storeys tall, certainly reminds me of a building or tower?

        There are other things in the distance that might be structures or might not? Too hard to tell, but at least it add's more credibility to this theory!



        Well, that is about it, hope that l didn't shock you too much. And spread the word about this, the more people that know the better!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Too many pics at once - I'm losing you. I can't find any of the stuff you are talking about. Is that sky or a frozen water body in that last pic? (it's in others, too but I'm just pointing to that one so not to confuse). Okay - the door and window thingy? Nadda. Just typical rock vug - agatized - same as the smaller ones in previous pictures that I howled about.

    I can't find any structure that would be the size of a 10 story building either. Just don't see it.

    Can opener is natural rock from what I can tell - but those angular indentations on the left don't look natural.

    Maybe it's my eyes, but to me once a pic is blurred - I can't tell what's going on. At all. You are talking about animals and all I see is pixilated stuff. I don't see even one of these trees your talking about. I'm not saying they aren't there - I just need a better picture to be able to see what I'm looking at.

    Now all those tubualr vugs in the agates that we've discussed before? Those could be fossil. If you are seeing tubular structures all over, then they could be some sort of coral or snail type thing. But once they are embedded in rock, they aren't live - they are either fossil or just mineral formation like right here on earth (of course, I can't say that 100 % because I am only comparing to Earth. I've never been to Mars and with pics like these will never be able to draw any positive conclusions - other than that agate. I know that type of rock and there is/was water, and silicon would not be an odd element. So....I can state that with a little bit of assurance.

    So is that sky or water? Looks like ice actually - is that at the icecap?
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    Okay - I just blew a few of these up. The stuff you have "cut out" from the pics is just too blurred to see a damned thing, as I said.

    It would help if I knew the dimensions of the pics - I see something that could be a city - but don't know if I'm looking at a very small clump of different rock or structures because of the size question. If it's a huge area, there could be a city with a pyramid in it -- if I'm looking at a fairly small area, I'm seeing just more rock formation.

    What I am looking for are road structures, and I've seen some things that have looked like roads in some pics - but can't be sure -- especially when I have no clue of the scale of size I'm looking at.

    Not sure where the idea of people up there is "leaked" from. Does that mean earthlings or does that mean martians or what and who said that?
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    In one of those pics, the blow up on the right side of the pic definitely looks like a road. I can't see where it goes to, but it's very clear for a ways. It bothers me that it looks so maintained, yet nothing around it looks like there is anything near a pathway for it to connect to - and if there is an old road that's covered, why would just that small section be maintained?

    As far as fossils - I see a LOT of things that could be fossil, but we'd have to know more about the terrain and fauna before we could actually tell that. There's a lot of rock that is just natural rock that looks like it could be fossil.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Too many pics at once - I'm losing you. I can't find any of the stuff you are talking about. Is that sky or a frozen water body in that last pic? (it's in others, too but I'm just pointing to that one so not to confuse). Okay - the door and window thingy? Nadda. Just typical rock vug - agatized - same as the smaller ones in previous pictures that I howled about.

      I can't find any structure that would be the size of a 10 story building either. Just don't see it.
      Yep, sorry about that, l took me hours to put this together! Arrr, no, nothing frozen, just the software pixalating.

      Hmmm, l will lean towards it being an entrance, only because of habitation evidence brought forward somewhere else.

      And the v shaped impressions are just the Curiosity rover wheel tracks!


      Ok, go to the site l mentioned before, then click on Sol 198 (281 img) l got the bulk of my images from there. And Sol 194 shows most of the Jade creek images.

      Maybe it's my eyes, but to me once a pic is blurred - I can't tell what's going on. At all. You are talking about animals and all I see is pixilated stuff. I don't see even one of these trees your talking about. I'm not saying they aren't there - I just need a better picture to be able to see what I'm looking at.


      Ok, this is the best l can do, first image show something growing out of the ground, with a white flower or more likely white frons, growing out of the top.

      Second image is a clam closed, third a hamster, forth is a crab and the fifth is the lizard or dinosaur. First arrow on the left shows its tail, then body then head. The shadows are showing that this is separate from the rock behind it.




      Bottom left shows it or the top of it being blown in the wind, and the right bottom shows it growing on a rock, and the top one, shows it growing down the side of a rockface. Whatever this stuff is, it is growing over the rock face?



      Ok, the stem and bottom sphere, is reasonably obvious, the top sphere and stem less obvious. Because of the mountain backdrop, l am assuming that the top sphere is part of the lower one. The first image l posted on this thread, with the mountains, etc was half a km to a k, away, so this structure should be roughly half a k, or more away. Which means it is big!

      This area is closer to the equator than anywhere else, but not on it.


      Not sure where the idea of people up there is "leaked" from. Does that mean earthlings or does that mean martians or what and who said that?
      I heard from text associated with a video, that there are up to 1 million people like us, on Mars!

      In one of those pics, the blow up on the right side of the pic definitely looks like a road. I can't see where it goes to, but it's very clear for a ways. It bothers me that it looks so maintained, yet nothing around it looks like there is anything near a pathway for it to connect to - and if there is an old road that's covered, why would just that small section be maintained?


      Actually l didn't see the other side either initially, but after a closer look it is there. And there is a small bridge over another part of the creek, after the rocky bridge!

      And if you look at the third arrow from the left, near the bright rock, the path branches off, and just above the second arrow from the left there is another path or road! :p

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    Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, but the head actually looks more like a rodent.
    I'm no expert, but I definitely don't see anything that resembles a rock in that image. How big do you reckon that thing is?
    I don't know what to make of all this, but great work, tagiscom.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Now, the lizard/reptile pic is weird. The body looks reptile like, but the head actually looks more like a rodent.
      I'm no expert, but I definitely don't see anything that resembles a rock in that image. How big do you reckon that thing is?
      I don't know what to make of all this, but great work, tagiscom.
      Thanks, Bravo, yeah, give yourself some time, it is quite a big bite to chew on!

      I am into this sort of thing, and l am still getting over it!


      Hmmm, might be right about the dinosaur, but l thought that with the dark colouration on the face it was more lizard like. But since it is standing up, it seems to be a cross between a lizard and a dinosaur.

      Always suspected that other planets may have dinosaurs on it, and we seem to have them in our back yard! :p



      Its also interesting to note that it is lying on another one of those things l found earlier, with the holes in it, but this one has legs, but as far as l can tell no holes!

      FileIA16068 - Mars Curiosity Rover - Aeolis Mons - 20120817.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      According to this site, probably half a km! So this thing could be as big as a man!

      And that means that based in this site, my sphere tower, is probably a good km or two, which means it is skyscraper height!

      Something to think about? :rolleyes:

      Shane

      PS at least they got the sky colour right, in the last link above, (about time)!
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Hamster. LOL - That's not a hamster. It's a brush mouse. Cute.

        Okay anyhow - now we're getting somewhere. I could actually see the stuff this time.

        Now - bottom pic left arrow of the road? That square rock behind it? I don't think that's a rock. It's extremely different from the other rock in the region and too geometric to be natural there. Also - up the pic from there a ways, there's some more rock that is too different, a little geometric - long and flat - but there's a road that leads to it as well. Those look "man" made - and with roads in the area I would say it's possible.
        Yep, my Martian fauna is a little rusty, LOL. Yep, possible, and l wasn't going to mention this, but since we are on the subject of roads, etc, l did find something that might be using those roads!

        I couldn't figure out whether it was a rock or truck, but if there are roads, then it's possible...



        So, the aqua arrow is going to the truck, and the red arrow shows it enlarged. I suspect that the front part is the cabin. Another interesting thing is if this is a truck, delivering supplies or exterminating brush possums, LOL, if you compare the size of the truck to the dinosaurs, (yellow arrow) the one shown before could be T-Rex size when standing up!

        Sounds like the Beagle probe may have landed on one of these things and it took off, or in a lake, or river.

        Yep, if Curiosity is in the wrong place, and one of these things comes over the hill, Curiosity could be totaled!

        2.5 billion down the drain!!! Sigh :rolleyes:

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          It doesn't look like a truck. It looks like a sports car - with a bald guy driving. Figures - the little dudes are into status quos. I wonder if he KNOWS there's dinosaurs waiting up ahead. Would like to get a time lapse on that story

          That valley in the background has got to be water.
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          Those rocks have a lot of cavaties in them. Something like that on earth likes living in rock cavities. I would imagine that when I go pick up those agates I should probably be real careful around those cavities. Doesn't look like there's a lot of vegies to eat so they're probably carnivorous. lol.
          Hmmm, yep, the blob creature, (Jade creek pic) was eating one of these white leaves, so l suspect there could be some kind of fruit on them. Or that is the main food source?

          Shane - it's a kewl interest, hobby. I'm glad you're throwing these pics up here for discussion. I'd think that it's not giong to be something that loses its excitement any time soon.
          Yep, if a UFO lands in Washington, then everyone will ignore this thread, apart from the Lawyers, LOL.

          And be making a bee-line to the nearest spaceship, to check it out!

          Probably be a 10 or 20 year waiting list, though! Imaging doing a documentary about all this, start off showing one of these weird palm trees, then make their way past the crabs, etc, to the dinosaurs!

          Probably get a good 3 to 4 billion viewers for that one! Mars Documentary - part one, plant life!

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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            It doesn't look like a truck. It looks like a sports car - with a bald guy driving. Figures - the little dudes are into status quos. I wonder if he KNOWS there's dinosaurs waiting up ahead. Would like to get a time lapse on that story

            That valley in the background has got to be water.


            Yep!!!! Looks like a river, and there seems to be a bridge going across it, (pink arrow). It's also interesting to note that the water levels have gotten much higher, at some point, l suspected that from the exposed clams, etc.

            Good catch Sal, l missed that one, no, doubt, there are plenty more gems?

            Clearly if there are rivers, then there would be dams! Hmmm, l wonder how much land is going for up there at the moment???? :rolleyes:



            Well, couldn't buy land without getting a house as well? Although this seems to be more of a restaurant, lookout tower? You can see a blue glass lookout in the bottom of the sculpture up top, and apparently steps going up to it!

            I suspect that the part on the left is more of a restaurant! Not bad, go for a bite and watch the dinosaurs outside, (the ones l found before a probably 10 metres away!

            And take a look at the top right hand structure, that looks like twisted silver pipes? And the rooftop viewing platform!

            Dinosaur burgers!

            Shane

            Thank goodness, there are no Maccers signs!!!! :rolleyes:
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              Hmmm, used spaceship, one owner!

              Right hand image seems to show a tower, Maybe Mars has it's own mobile network?



              This is seriously weird, but not unexpected, initially l thought that it was a waterfall, but not much water. So at this point it is either a volcano, or power generator.

              The large silver structure with a window and copper type design in the middle, probably supports power generation.

              But whatever it is it is pushing out what seems like white smoke, and this smoke is going a fair way up!

              The more l study these images the more windows l see on rocks!

              Could be a metropolitan area? It also seems likely that NASA knows about all this, and has carefully mapped out Curiosity's path, so it doesn't run into a house, or river, etc!

              Shane

              Odd's on it's humans, aliens wouldn't do something tacky like putting a silver dinosaur's head on a restaurant's roof, or make the whole building look like one, (previous set of images)?
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    Hamster. LOL - That's not a hamster. It's a brush mouse. Cute.

    Okay anyhow - now we're getting somewhere. I could actually see the stuff this time.

    Now - bottom pic left arrow of the road? That square rock behind it? I don't think that's a rock. It's extremely different from the other rock in the region and too geometric to be natural there. Also - up the pic from there a ways, there's some more rock that is too different, a little geometric - long and flat - but there's a road that leads to it as well. Those look "man" made - and with roads in the area I would say it's possible.
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    Those rocks have a lot of cavaties in them. Something like that on earth likes living in rock cavities. I would imagine that when I go pick up those agates I should probably be real careful around those cavities. Doesn't look like there's a lot of vegies to eat so they're probably carnivorous. lol.

    Shane - it's a kewl interest, hobby. I'm glad you're throwing these pics up here for discussion. I'd think that it's not giong to be something that loses its excitement any time soon.
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    Looks like all the water here is dried up - maybe just subverted to other places?

    Okay - on the first pic in post 128 - toward the top of the pic center - near the bottom of the Mt in the background there is a black dot. I blew that up a tad but can't get in close enough to see it. It's not natural. It's cylindrical. Can you get a shot from the rover that closes in on that a little bit?

    Bottom pic in post #127 -- I blew that up. That isn't looking natural at all. Look at the row of spheres in the "wall" right next to the "blue door" that runs all the way to over the door (which also contains a sphere). There's also a huge half sphere above it a ways, that has something that looks like a round flat object sitting on it. That might one just be an illusion, wish you could get a clearer pic. The first one I mentioned in the pic is no illusion though - that is NOT a natural formation.

    I don't see any smoke emitting from anywhere. Actually, to me it looks like we're looking at ruins. Can't tell that of course, without being there or without closer and clearer pics, but this looks like an area that used to have a LOT of water, but for some reason it's dried up. Not much different than ruins in some of our desert areas out here in the Western states. Might be someone here and there, but no dense population, and they would have to have structures that function as pumps for water since there isn't any there right now.........but then, too, that could be a seasonal thing. If there is a wet season and a dry season, this area might look very different 6 months down the road.

    There is a possibility that many of those formations that look like man made cylinders are actually a natural crystal formation. Crystals can get pretty huge on earth, too, and are geometrically perfect enough they'd look man-made in pics like this.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      bottom pic in post #127 -- I blew that up. That isn't looking natural at all. Look at the row of spheres in the "wall" right next to the "blue door" that runs all the way to over the door (which also contains a sphere). There's also a huge half sphere above it a ways, that has something that looks like a round flat object sitting on it. That might one just be an illusion, wish you could get a clearer pic. The first one I mentioned in the pic is no illusion though - that is NOT a natural formation.
      This is the best l can do!



      This building seems to curve around and link up with the larger structure that looks like a dinosaur!

      There is also this viewing place right near the action!



      Ok, the first image shows the viewing area or glass, the interesting thing about this is you can see lighter areas, like there are windows on both sides, and more interesting l have noticed some darker areas. The one standing in the middle of the window, (first arrow, left) is the most interesting!

      It seems more and more likely that there are humans on Mars, and this is some kind of nature theme park!

      Ok, l tried to find your dark dot, and found that the structure on the left is also emitting smoke, (you can see it more clearly in the enhances shot). But what is more interesting is the structure in the middle! The enhanced shot shows that it has structure and is a tower of some kind.

      Considering this structure is a good 1.5 to 2 kms away it is at least 20 to 30 storeys high, possibly more.

      Looks like a viewing tower, but it might be industrial?

      Might be someone here and there, but no dense population, and they would have to have structures that function as pumps for water since there isn't any there right now.........but then, too, that could be a seasonal thing. If there is a wet season and a dry season, this area might look very different 6 months down the road.

      There is a possibility that many of those formations that look like man made cylinders are actually a natural crystal formation. Crystals can get pretty huge on earth, too, and are geometrically perfect enough they'd look man-made in pics like this.
      Hmmm, there is still water in that river, but as you were saying and from what l have seen, it seems to be in a dry season! NASA wouldn't risk landing this when it was wetter?

      But either way you should name the river.

      Any ideas??? :rolleyes:

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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom


        Ok, first image shows what looks like a road in the distance! And this road is going to a structure of some kind?



        I have also found a road going to the main building! You can see the occasional car, (red arrow) and larger vehicle. The arrow on the left also shows a car that left some dust behind and is driving up to the carpark, (that explains what the large rectangular structure is. If you go back to previous larger images, you can also see the occasional car up there! Cool! There is also a road going to the restaurant as well!



        The main road continues, and also branches off to go to other structures!



        Ok, first large image shows an entrance and a cute little guy in a spacesuit!

        Second image shows this strange thing on a bridge? Whatever it is it is partially transparent. You can see the pattern going around the view screen.

        The first arrow shows, a robotic screen of some kind, the third arrow shows some robotic things, and the second one is the coolest.

        It seems to be showing an alien looking back at us, since the background isn't dark, it could be a two way giant view screen!

        May be some kind of communication area? But either way it shows that it is likely that aliens, are on Mars, probably along with Humans.

        They could have grabbed some of us over thousands of years! Along with the occasional brush possum, crabs and rabbits, (big mistake)! :rolleyes:



        It also seems like there is a sign, near this structure, l can only make out a number 4 or triangle?

        Could either be saying that the road goes up a steep hill, which is accurate, or there is roof top parking here as well, and it is saying "caution end of roof top parking"? Lettering is underneath as well, but unfortunately it is too hard to see!

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    Well it looks like they aren't telling us a LOT about that planet. Of course, they did put up enough shots of it that people like you who are curious enough to really go through the pics can at least get a drift of what's going on there. Too bad they won't post anything we can get clearer pics of.

    I didn't see there was still water in that river. Guess we can just call it the Lost river. I'll look at this stuff again tomorrow, I 'm beat and it's almost 4 am.
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      Well it looks like they aren't telling us a LOT about that planet. Of course, they did put up enough shots of it that people like you who are curious enough to really go through the pics can at least get a drift of what's going on there. Too bad they won't post anything we can get clearer pics of.

      I didn't see there was still water in that river. Guess we can just call it the Lost river. I'll look at this stuff again tomorrow, I 'm beat and it's almost 4 am.
      Yep, but l wouldn't thank NASA, just yet!

      When they put up the landing of Curiosity, initially they showed a live colour video of the descent, (which was in the other room) l put something up about that in the "Mars sky colour, etc" previous threads. And when l was watching the video in the other room l found that it seemed to stall at that part, like someone was blocking it out!

      Then thankfully after l got some shots, it was gone. So it seems that the military in NASA of some people in key positions are calling the shots, and odds on wouldn't allow anything to get through, but thankfully there are some scientists in NASA that can see what is being hidden from the general public, and are indirectly giving away info,. Well at least until, it is found out!

      Hopefully that won't happen anytime soon, and some more juicy pic, will show, but if not, l will never look at Mars the same way again!

      Yep, know what you mean by late, its 3am here, and l need to hit the sack soon, but before that, here are some more....:p



      First blownup image is some more water, l think that it is blatantly obvious that Mars has water on its, surface!

      Next image l don't have a clue, best guess it is a drawbridge?

      Ok, next image is this giant structure, which is over a road. Radar dish, solar collector, or just a building of some kind, (most of these image were on the horizon, or a good k or 2 away so they are pretty big!

      The last one seems to be a stadium of some kind, and yep there is a giant helmet, on top of another building, or buildings. These aliens certainly love dramatics. :rolleyes:

      Best guess the helmet is part of a sporting event, since the object on top seems to signify the main thing.

      Also interesting to note that all structures are inclosed! It seems that the domestic aliens can't breath the atmosphere, but the animal life there can! It could also be because Mars has dust storms that can be planet wide and last for months. So everything is enclosed.

      From the first images l put up possibly showing humans on Mars, there faces or body's weart white with a black visor, so it seems we could breath the atmosphere there, but the alien's need to suit up!

      Maybe we evolved there as well, or were brought over there so long ago, that we can breath the atmosphere and the alien part showed up later on?

      Certainly fascinating!

      Explains why the millionaire wants the first humans to stay there, he has probably unofficially spoken to someone at NASA, and knows the truth. Run out of food, go grab a burger!

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    I can't see much in your blow ups. They are too blurred. I have seen those "black dots" in a few of the pics - those are easy to point out as non-natural formations. I can't tell water from mineral in a blur. Green or blue, doesn't necessarily mean water. That one agate that I blew up had both blue and green mineral, but it was obviously mineral. As far as size scale, I still can't tell from these pics. Same with crevices in rock A lot of those appear natural, but there are a lot of things that have too much geometric going on to be anything but crafted. A lot of spheres everywhere. I wonder what those are for. I've seen a few spheres that could arguably be natural - but a few that there's just no element we know of that would form naturally like that. Same with a few of the more cubic formations. Minerals do cube - mostly metallic ones - they also form pyramids. Look at some photos of pyrite sometime. What got me was the first tube I saw with an obvious lid, wasn't even something that could be written off as a natural form - and the roads. I scan google satellite and earth all the time before I go on 4 wheel paths.

    I know a road when I see one. I can tell a lot about a road just from a bird's eye view - and I see a LOT of roads. I've only seen a few that were well developed (equivalent to our grated gravel roads) and the best one I have seen so far led down to what looked like a pool of water. You want to look at those real close on google earth or satellite before trying to drive down them so you don't hit any washouts or get somewhere that you can't go on, but can't turn around. Been there and done that several times. NOT even starting to be pleasant. What grabs me about some of the roads is that they branch off to areas that end in geometric shapes or huge caverns in the rock. I'm thinking about their weather up there and thinking that putting homes in caverns would probably be a really good idea. With lidded pipes leading up for air or smoke release, etc. That's where I've seen pipes is above caverns - and in the area of geometric shapes. Just too much of that going on near obvious roadways for it to be coincidental. I think I'll go browse your link at NASA again.
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    Here's one for ya, Shane. Ever seen a NATURAL beam like this? It's on the right hand side - no more description necessary, it's not hard to find. Also looks like one of those black dots is in the air (left). IT might be on land but it's just too hazy to see the land. There are two (above and left and right of the beam) that are definitely in the air.
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    Okay - this is a very close up pic.........and everything is clear except for one item....
    Is the left side shadow or stem?- that thing is hairy or spiky. Plant or animal - or just part of the rover? I don't see this in the other pics. It almost looks like it's moving. That would be the only reason I can think of that it would be the only blurry item in the pic.

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    I don't know what (on earth) this is? Doesn't look like a rock or pixelation to me.
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      I don't know what (on earth) this is? Doesn't look like a rock or pixelation to me.
      Doesn't look like any sort of mineral formation. I'm starting to wonder why some of these pics are so blurred. We've already seen some very clear shots and know they can take them.
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        Doesn't look like any sort of mineral formation. I'm starting to wonder why some of these pics are so blurred. We've already seen some very clear shots and know they can take them.
        Well, that certainly raises a question or two, doesn't it?

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          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          Well, that certainly raises a question or two, doesn't it?

          Let me qualify this first for people who might otherwise think I've gone a tad nuts.

          This is not what I think it IS -- It's just what it looks like.

          It looks like some dude with a long helmet or skull driving a motorcycle type vehicle.
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    2nd pic - I was thinking that was probably right. Freaky as heck if it weren't though. LOL.

    Top pic -- Love that architecture. I bet it looks like a hobbit house on the inside, but has some startling technology inside. It looks extremely comfortable.

    All that Centigrade, anyone know in Fahrenheit how hot and cold that planet gets?
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    Okay - those orbs in the wall I thought didn't look remotely natural? Seems to be a common formation on Mars (natural). Not sure if it's a percolated form of mudstone or if it's fossiliferous. There's seams of white rock of some sort running through some of this rock - in some places it takes a round formation as well. In the rock - not sure if it's a mineral inclusion of some sort that's been coated with the mudstone or what. I'm wondering if some of the pics aren't from closer up than we realize. This one is close and personal.
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      2nd pic - I was thinking that was probably right. Freaky as heck if it weren't though. LOL.

      Top pic -- Love that architecture. I bet it looks like a hobbit house on the inside, but has some startling technology inside. It looks extremely comfortable.

      All that Centigrade, anyone know in Fahrenheit how hot and cold that planet gets?
      Yep, using the blue window visible more or less below the helmet structure, the building on the left would be at least 10 storeys high.

      Which means the stadium is 15, 20 storeys high. Imagine, a stadium of noisy aliens, and family's, watching something with dinosaurs or hoverbikes, etc. Something straight out of Star Wars!


      Yep, go to the previous link showing Mars temp, it has Fahrenheit as well!

      The balls are a direct result of water interacting with mineral deposits, or something like that! NASA's other two previous rovers found them as well! Or one, did, l am too lazy to check that out! :rolleyes:

      I am having too much fun with these images, and here is another!



      Ok, first image shows a house with a antenna on top! It seems like these creatures also have television. Probably HD holographic, or some super advanced cool setup!

      Second image has steps, and what looks like an humanoid alien on top!

      The third is another spaceship, at least this one looks like it is in better condition. The last one l found looked like someone left it to rust away!



      Ok, humanoid female, since she is wearing a black dress with white. She seems by her hands, is praying or something else, but the long neck and bald head is the freaky part, (top arrow). I know it is blurry, but some detail can be made out. Considering she has a long neck and isn't wearing a spacesuit, the aliens may have created an alien, human hybrid, so as to, get around the wearing a spacesuit to step outside.

      Good idea, but it raises some ethical concerns! But, their planet, so their rules!

      Wrapped that l got a closeup of one, and half a dozen more pic to go!!! :rolleyes:

      At least if they land in Washington tomorrow, people reading this thread won't be shocked, or not as shocked as most!

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        Ok, first image shows another big structure, this one has a sphinx type head! And this also has a road and maybe a ship parked out front!

        The large structure on the left, looks like it was built from scratch or is silver all over! Reminds me of one of the Crab or spider type things in the "War of the Worlds" soundtrack cover! Considering this thing is above ground and is massive, (going by the dark blue windows in the other spinx structure) this thing is probably 30+ storeys high.

        Best guess this is a starship! Cool! :p

        Then we have this one???? :confused:

        Then last of all is, it seems that Curiosity may have driven over this wet creek, and either pushed the large bolder along, or just driven over it. Either way there seems to be track marks, in this area.

        Another interesting thing about the tv idea, is ground based dishes on Earth should be able to pick up on it!

        Unless it is being blocked?

        No doubt our oceans, probably fascinate them!

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    Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.

    Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
    That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.

    This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.

      Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
      That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.

      This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.
      Agreed. The ones that really made my jaw drop were these two:





      and of course the ones showing water. A lot of the others really are a stretch of the imagination.
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    I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
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      Okay - don't see any "sphinx" head. You wouldn't believe how many natural rock formations look like faces or animals. Try driving by Lizard Rock in ID and not seeing the lizard on top.
      Ok, second image large rock, spinx type head, (roughly speaking).

      Okay - last pic? Those aren't roads. The only sign of a road I see is to the left of the top arrow, there's a small pathway - but I can't see where it goes. That whole thing that looks like a road in the foreground (and a very clear one?). It's not. It's shelf- like rock that has concentrations of sand blow on it. Those things can fool you when you are looking on google earth or satelite trying to find a route through to a gem field, too. That one is completely natural.
      That second arrow on top points to a completely natural draw, too. The bottom arrows are pointing to a slide area that most likely has water flow during the wet season. I can't even tell what you're trying to point out with the other arrows.
      No, the arrows show that something drove through this area and pushed the rock along! So l am pointing out the suttle marks, left in the wet sand. Curiosity would have to drive over this sort of area sooner or later, but of course we don't see or hear anything!


      This pic to me is just wishful thinking after finding a lot of other stuff that really does seem to be unnatural. Calm down and try again. That top pic in the post before this one does appear humanoid. You'd have to know the size scale on that one though. Depending on size, it could be a LOT of things. What it looks like perched on that white thing? A martian on the potty. LOL - sorry, but that's what it looks like.


      True it could be a post with old rags on it? The steps do seem pretty high! So l will leave this up in the air, unless l find a better image of one?

      I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
      Unfortunately NASA has all the best stuff in their database, so.....l won't say anymore! :rolleyes:


      Best we can do is wait a year or two for the millionaire to send a rover there, if he gets the funding, and show us all this stuff in HD!

      But from what l have heard, Julia Estrange, has something along these lines, and is collating it all together into a Legally binding folder, so they can tell the world, and drag NASA through the courts.


      The other interesting thing is why did NASA send Curiosity to a hot spot like this, when it could have just as easily sent it to a particularly sparsely populated area, like the previous rovers went to???? :confused:

      It's like they want to announce that Mars has life, etc, but keep holding back?


      Maybe it is the usual keep power, crap, for as long as possible and keep it buried for as long as possible?

      But if that is true, why would they land it there???


      It's like landing a rover in the middle of Vegas, and try to keep it hidden, instead of landing it in the desert, and just blurr out or colour out Vegas lights at dust?


      I suspect that what l have uncovered, is setting the stage for something big!

      Should be interesting times for us, in the coming years!

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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've seen several pics in this thread that are astounding. Seen some that weren't anything, too. I just wish we could find a way to blow things up without the blur and scale them to size accuarately. If we could blow these up with no blur, we'd find a wealth of interesting things for conversation.
      I wonder how some op these photos would look as vectors. I'm going to play around with Illustrator and see what they look like. Probably look a little cartoonish, but shapes and outlines might be a bit sharper.
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      • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
        Um.......second image -- that rock on the left? It isn't a rock. Look at it again. I still don't see any sphinx type anything though. The rock on the right is just a rock -- and all that apartment complex looking stuff on the right is BEHIND it...including that thing that looks like a snake head on the right end of it.
        Yeah, l know the silver thing on the left looks more artificial than a rock! And the distance makes it a big silver thing.

        Hmmm, yep, you have a point, l didn't realize it was seperate, to the big rock on the right. Yep, snake head is probably a more accurate description! :rolleyes:

        Second - with all the arrows. Sorry, still looks like natural erosion that you would see in any desert rocky area. I could take you places out here that have the same roadish look. I just don't see it in that one -- I do however see between all those arrows patches of yellow that almost look like sunshine hitting the ground. There's also some places out here that have a goldish yellow brush that shines like that when the sun hits it. Something to think about is what season is this? Dry season. All those little blurry patches in that otherwise clear pic might be bright green 6 months down the line.
        Drat!!! Yep, Mars is going through it's winter at present, or the dry season for a good part of the planet, (a good part of it's water is frozen at the icecaps). So as you are saying it could green up when summer comes! But they only need to put the copper filter over their images and it tends to hide most of the green stuff!


        Nasa has given a few pics with enough evidence that those who are interested in the issue will know = at least will know that there's life there. Other people who aren't interested, don't really even need to know. Screw em. If they were to actually announce things with clear photos right now there'd be a war with religious leaders coming down on us. I don't think they are ready to let us out of the position as the one and only in the universe yet.
        LOL, don't hold back tell us what you really think!!!! :rolleyes:


        Yep, couldn't agree more, people tend to fall into "please everyone", "know it all", people that take action, and screw the outcome, and the ones that want to "feel safe"!

        I bought up this info, on another forum and the "l want to feel safe" camp, got angry at me for putting the "Mars has a blue sky, and NASA is b...." issue?

        It seems that some people don't want to know, or enjoy being lied to? I don't understand that crowd?

        Then you have the crowd that will refuse to see obvious evidence, and will dismiss it anyway they can! Can't figure that group out either, although l suspect that fear plays a large part?


        Fortunately or unfortunately, the day is coming when the HD photos will be shown, and NASA either through outside events, (UFO landing, other people, releasing hard evidence) or by themselves will spill the beans.


        When that day comes, probably soon, then the groups above who have turned avoiding the truth, into an art form, will be clobbered the most. Or will probably be the ones who will have mass heart attacks, or panic attacks, of be wracked with fear that a mass invasion is eminent, (too many sci-fi movies) or some equally unfounded theory!


        I would launch a probe to Mars in a second if l had the cash, but the Moon has it's own share of secrets, and is much easier to reach.

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    Um.......second image -- that rock on the left? It isn't a rock. Look at it again. I still don't see any sphinx type anything though. The rock on the right is just a rock -- and all that apartment complex looking stuff on the right is BEHIND it...including that thing that looks like a snake head on the right end of it.

    Second - with all the arrows. Sorry, still looks like natural erosion that you would see in any desert rocky area. I could take you places out here that have the same roadish look. I just don't see it in that one -- I do however see between all those arrows patches of yellow that almost look like sunshine hitting the ground. There's also some places out here that have a goldish yellow brush that shines like that when the sun hits it. Something to think about is what season is this? Dry season. All those little blurry patches in that otherwise clear pic might be bright green 6 months down the line.

    Yeah that bottom pic is just too far blurred out to see anything at all other than some color blobs. You can think color blobs into almost anything, it doesn't need to really be anything at all.

    Nasa has given a few pics with enough evidence that those who are interested in the issue will know = at least will know that there's life there. Other people who aren't interested, don't really even need to know. Screw em. If they were to actually announce things with clear photos right now there'd be a war with religious leaders coming down on us. I don't think they are ready to let us out of the position as the one and only in the universe yet.
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    Shane - there's enough UFO info that has been de-classified now to pretty much prove that UFOs not only exist, but are around sometimes. Yet there are still people who can't get their heads around that one. IF they knew that they were coming from so close by, they'd melt down for sure. If anyone were to ever prove that humans were brought from space, mass suicide would be the result right now.

    Most people are not set up or educated correctly to have everything they thought they knew destroyed and relearn a new reality.

    As far as the filter on the lense? Maybe but I doubt it. I was able to see the green and blue of that chalcedony just fine. During dry seasons grass is brownish to yellow, though - and that's what I think I am seeing in the photo. The sand is clear and the rocks are clear but the yellow areas are fairly fuzzy.

    I swear some of these photos could have been taken right in the Western US states. There's a few differences, but there's a hell of a lot of sameness, too. I'm not sure that I agree that the peoplish beings there can't breath that atmosphere, either. It looks like there might be more sameness there than we are supposed to realize - water means oxygen - water also means those clouds might not be any so much different than ours. I'm not a chemist so I couldn't tell you what all elements could result in a blue sky. With all that sand, if there's any wind, it's not hard to imagine why some pics would make the planet look like it's got a red sky.

    What bothers me is that if there are intelligent beings up there (which looks like is most likely the case), our gov and corporations are going to get to them before normal people and we might end up with inter-planetary enemies. Our leaders are trying to take war into space and that is just soooo not a smart move if there are intelligent beings that close that have the ability to get here. Makes me wonder that if they defund NASA at this point - if they weren't instructed to do so by a people they couldn't say no to.
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      Shane - there's enough UFO info that has been de-classified now to pretty much prove that UFOs not only exist, but are around sometimes. Yet there are still people who can't get their heads around that one. IF they knew that they were coming from so close by, they'd melt down for sure. If anyone were to ever prove that humans were brought from space, mass suicide would be the result right now.

      Most people are not set up or educated correctly to have everything they thought they knew destroyed and relearn a new reality.
      Yep, scary thought, but eventhough that seemed to be true in the 50's, now with crop circles, and increasing UFO sightings, people are sensitized into not going off the rails, when the announcement comes.

      But, regardless, mass suicides, and riots will probably be widespread! May even got a few hundred thousand tramping into the desert and demand that Area 51 be open to the public!

      As far as the filter on the lense? Maybe but I doubt it. I was able to see the green and blue of that chalcedony just fine. During dry seasons grass is brownish to yellow, though - and that's what I think I am seeing in the photo. The sand is clear and the rocks are clear but the yellow areas are fairly fuzzy.
      Well, l tend to colour correct most of my pictures before posting!

      The image l put up with the green algae in the foreground and blue sky in the background, (thread 1 or 2) clearly demonstrates this, before l corrected the colour, it was reddish, orange, and the green was barely visible, but after correcting, it stood out as clear as day!

      I swear some of these photos could have been taken right in the Western US states. There's a few differences, but there's a hell of a lot of sameness, too. I'm not sure that I agree that the peoplish beings there can't breath that atmosphere, either. It looks like there might be more sameness there than we are supposed to realize - water means oxygen - water also means those clouds might not be any so much different than ours. I'm not a chemist so I couldn't tell you what all elements could result in a blue sky. With all that sand, if there's any wind, it's not hard to imagine why some pics would make the planet look like it's got a red sky.
      Yep, some images do have a reddish sky. As for the clouds they seem to have high altitude wispy clouds! And possibly little to no rain, although snow has been detected at the ice caps!

      Since Mars has no oceans, (but if it has rivers, then lakes are probably present) no doubt, rain clouds would be less prevalent.


      What bothers me is that if there are intelligent beings up there (which looks like is most likely the case), our gov and corporations are going to get to them before normal people and we might end up with inter-planetary enemies. Our leaders are trying to take war into space and that is just soooo not a smart move if there are intelligent beings that close that have the ability to get here. Makes me wonder that if they defund NASA at this point - if they weren't instructed to do so by a people they couldn't say no to.
      World gov, probably have been talking to them since the 50's, well friendly nations at least!


      So us talking to them especially the military is a little like telling a 5 year old what to do. The 5 year old may demand this and that, mainly to gain power, and the enlightened elder who virtually knows how the universe ticks, tries to negotiate!

      But since the military can at least grasp, that we are a joke in regards to military might, they have to take a back seat!

      But as you were saying, long established institutions will get dragged through the mud, when the truth comes out!

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        Ok, another pic, and more interesting stuff! First off l found some more doors, the one on the left looks like, the one l found before with the pudgy guy in a spacesuit, although it is hard to make out whether this one is being used or not? The one on the right is more heavy duty, steel frame, and the occupants may have upgraded the door!

        Good idea if you can't breath the outside air!


        Then we have these massive structures, which are probably a good 5 or more k,s away.

        The first is silver and seems to be built into the hill or mountain!

        The second one is the most interesting. a massive silver structure, that has supports going up the hill to a larger structure on top!

        Hard to say what this is, but it has an antenna on top, and if this is a mountain, then power generation or water extraction and storage are two likely ones.

        If this is a mountain, which it could most likely be, then aliens are building things on a scale that would boggle our imaginations!


        It seems that a good billion or two of us would want to go there, when the announcement comes!

        Alien invasion, but in a good way! :rolleyes:

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    Some of the caverns under rocks are natural, Shane - when you get large outcrops or shelfy rock, it usually is cavernous. Those would be likely housing to wildlife. There are also a lot of round vugs in the rock that are actually natural - as are a lot of the round bubble looking stuff. It looks artificial, but is actually just natural phenomenon.

    That said - that middle pic - the arrow on the left - definitely metal and not natural (I hesitate to say man-made because it's hard to say what the local beings are called, lol. The middle arrow, I see nothing of unnatural interest -- the right arrow - that is too geometric to be natural - it looks just like an earth apartment building. Too square, too much difference from the local rock - the interior squares are too well aligned. Even a cubic mineral would be unlikely to be that perfect in the rough.

    Now that brings in a very big problem though in size -- it would make whatever that wheel is on the left (and that's what it looks like) absolutely gargantuan in size compared to the structure on the right. It doesn't make any sense to me unless three are either huge visitors that leave trash and very tiny people there. Either that or I have the sizes very messed up in my head and that right hand structure is actually just a cubic mineral on the side of a rock formation that is tens of times smaller than I thought it was.
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      That said - that middle pic - the arrow on the left - definitely metal and not natural (I hesitate to say man-made because it's hard to say what the local beings are called, lol. The middle arrow, I see nothing of unnatural interest -- the right arrow - that is too geometric to be natural - it looks just like an earth apartment building. Too square, too much difference from the local rock - the interior squares are too well aligned. Even a cubic mineral would be unlikely to be that perfect in the rough.
      Yep, when l first saw this it looks like a jet engine, but since it was beside the road, l went off track. Whatever this thing is it has supports.

      Now that brings in a very big problem though in size -- it would make whatever that wheel is on the left (and that's what it looks like) absolutely gargantuan in size compared to the structure on the right. It doesn't make any sense to me unless three are either huge visitors that leave trash and very tiny people there. Either that or I have the sizes very messed up in my head and that right hand structure is actually just a cubic mineral on the side of a rock formation that is tens of times smaller than I thought it was.
      Well, considering the underground dwellings around this thing, and the hotel, close by, l am seriously starting to think that this is an air intake devise, or a giant fan, filtering out the nasty stuff, so the martians can get some fresh air!

      It also explains why there seems to be some dust being brown out of the back of this thing, (not easy to see but there appears to be some disturbance out the back). Yep, when you live in a place where dust storms can last for up to a year, when it makes sense to have a high powered air filter!

      Other thing is there are no power lines anywhere, so aliens probably generate their own power on site. A free energy device, or advanced fission, with their tech, it could be a lot of things!

      We have one or two free energy systems that work, but we also have money and stupidity getting in the way!

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    I don't see any emissions, but then that pic is pixilated pretty bad. That doesn't look like just a support, it looks like a pipe - and that second little arrow to that little metal thing is pretty strange. I wonder if it's part of the same system. As far as the sandstorms - I imagine they are built to withstand them. Their air intake organs would be much different from ours - possibly even more like insects than human and their eyes probably reptilian with a fiber over them they can open and close. It doesn't appear they are underground all the time.
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      I don't see any emissions, but then that pic is pixilated pretty bad. That doesn't look like just a support, it looks like a pipe - and that second little arrow to that little metal thing is pretty strange. I wonder if it's part of the same system. As far as the sandstorms - I imagine they are built to withstand them. Their air intake organs would be much different from ours - possibly even more like insects than human and their eyes probably reptilian with a fiber over them they can open and close. It doesn't appear they are underground all the time.
      Arrr, no, just distortions, or sound waves, seem to be coming out the back?

      And the arrow on the right, is going to a window, the main thing l see when scouring these images is windows or blue colour.

      Yep, they do wear space suits, but l suspect that they get daily weather reports, (being caught in a dust storm that lasts for up to a year is pretty serious).

      Which of course raises the possibility that there are one or more weather satellites on Mars moons, or in orbit; something else we will never find out!

      Yeah, from the image l found they could be the aliens that were involved in Roswell, and other incidents!

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    Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

    Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Some blue squares you see are actually chalcedony with vugs - there's a lot of that going on up there from what I can see. I look for a lot of other things when determining if it's man made or natural - too many natural orbs and squares to use that as a sole determination.

      Of course, you seem to be making the assumption that there is only ONE species with both intelligence and natural ability to build, like humans can. That's not necessarily the case. I'm sure there are some indigenous species that can handle the dust. It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to feel there are some imported species there, too, looking at the multitudinous forms of unnatural items - and THEY would probably need the air filtering, etc. For instance - a martian might live above ground while humans would build in underground caverns where they could turn underground pools or streams into oxygen, yet have to "suit up" to go outside.

      Looks like Total Recall was onto something.

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    Okay that upper rock that looks kinda like something is just rock, but that stuff underneath isn't, as far as I can tell from this pic. Sure wish you could get a better resolution on that one. There look to be 2 heads there - with a dog shaped muzzle and two very bulbous eyes. I know there's a lot of natural globular shapes but those things just don't look like rock - they look like faces - helmeted heads, whatever. Kinda cute. I wonder if you owned one if you'd have to observe leash laws with it if you brought it back.
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    W T F is this? A plant? An old relic?

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      Okay that upper rock that looks kinda like something is just rock, but that stuff underneath isn't, as far as I can tell from this pic. Sure wish you could get a better resolution on that one. There look to be 2 heads there - with a dog shaped muzzle and two very bulbous eyes. I know there's a lot of natural globular shapes but those things just don't look like rock - they look like faces - helmeted heads, whatever. Kinda cute. I wonder if you owned one if you'd have to observe leash laws with it if you brought it back.


      Yep, didn't notice the dog, but since they are on both sides of what looks like a round table, and both have their mouths open, l am beginning to think that these things are statues, or sculptures. The table also has a copper strip around the top, and a raised part out front, might be a control panel.

      If it has statues on both sides and is outside in the dust, etc, then it must have some communical purpose. A screen showing Mars weather patterns in real time, is the only thing l can think of, but l doubt it is for playing cards! :rolleyes:


      W T F is this? A plant? An old relic?


      Arrr, plant! Although red weed was in the back of my mind!!! :rolleyes:

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        Ok, initially l thought that this was a house, it may still be, but the fence, (middle arrow) is more interesting. The last arrow on the right could be a human standing up, and eventhough enhancement showed two legs, etc, l will leave this one as compelling, but no slam dunk!



        Ok, it seems that the lost river has some other ones, the arrows show the one on the left. And what looks like a waterfall, (forth arrow from the left) and the second last arrow on the right, shows yet another lost river spinoff!

        Its also interesting to note that the left hand river is greener than the other ones!

        The top arrow shows some dust or smoke in the distance!



        Last one is the coolest, it shows an animal of some kind, missed it initially! There could be a second one above it, also?

        It's eye reflecting in the Curiosity's camera is the giveaway!

        Maybe Mars has Walruses as well?

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    I can't see much in that pic at all. It's just too pixilated so when you blow it up it's so pixed out and blurry you could imagine anything, but not see anything with enough clarity to really know the difference. That bottom pic? No clue where you think there's an animal. I don't see anything even remotely suggestive of one.

    The greens in that pic on the left - most of it is just rock. There is a lighter yellowish/green color that runs in blurred patches that might be vegetation, though. If vegetation is green, it most likely resembles earth's enough to turn brown during the dry season unless it sits where there is water fairly close to the surface like in some spring areas in our own NW high desert areas.
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    There's a lot going on in that picture. First off - I don't see any resemblance to an animal between those arrows. I do see stuff I want to know what it is, though - it doesn't look the least bit natural in several spots - like to the right of the top arrows and underneath the bottom arrows.

    It would help if I knew the size of what I'm looking at. I doubt very highly that we're going to be looking at any 4 and 5 meter long creatures in these pics.
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      Ok, more interesting stuff, first blownup image shows water coming out of some kind of pipes! Could just be some more white plants, but it looks like water!

      Second image shows what looks like a polar bear, if it is a rock, it has 4 legs, (shadow).

      Next image shows more water flowing down, or small waterfalls! Cool!!! :p

      Next one shows what looks like a martian airport, the silver one with two back thrusters, exhausts, etc, is green arrow marked.

      Then we have this weird structure?

      Another fine example of a martain house. The entrances of the left, and others, including a large oval window, and car, spaceship, etc on the far right, make this hard to dismiss as just being a rock!

      And the last one, no idea!

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    Is this lizard type creature the same as the guy in the pic you posted earlier, or is this another one?

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    Well that definitely looks like a little lizard. If it's the same shot as Shane has arrows up all over, it sure looks different without the blur, eh? It's cute. I'm sure that the animals, especially small ones would tend to be the same color as their environments, too - camouflage from predators. I'm kinda guessing if there is life, there has to be a predatory food chain, but maybe not. It's the only way stuff works here. Can't say if it's the same elsewhere.
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      Is this lizard type creature the same as the guy in the pic you posted earlier, or is this another one?
      Hmmm, hard to tell, the tail is the most interesting part! I am still trying to find the original image, for some reason l can't pin it down!


      I also saw another fascinating video briefly showing, what looked like rubber tank type tracks on Mars, (well the wind had wiped some of it off).

      This was taken from Curiosity, and definitely wasn't from Curiosity, (Curiosity has very distinctive v shaped marks).

      So it seems likely that the Russians have a rover on Mars in this area as well!

      Clearly this area has immense scientific or military importance!

      Shane
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