Very Beautiful Girl, Very Rough Attitude

Beauty fades, sometimes very fast. You'd better like what's hiding underneath the covering because that's the stuff that can make life a heaven or a hell.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It doesn't sound like a very good relationship to me.
I know a female and if her husband does not let her have her own way she will not talk to him till he gives in.
It is your life and you have to make that decision but you cannot change anyone. You can only change yourself.

Seems like you are paying way too much attention to her looks. The fact that you have issues with her personality and you seem to be doubting the relationship, seems to me that she isn't the one for you. If she was the one you could love forever, you wouldn't have any issues with her personality.

Don't be with someone just because they look good, there is so much more to a person than looks!

Been there, done that. Run.

A colleague of mine gave this advice to his son, "Only date beautiful women. Personality goes away but beauty remains." Wait, that doesn't seem to be what he said. Anyway, something like that. Ahem, carry on.


(I leave amidst the loud sound of crickets and a silent audience)

Here is the only thing good I can say about the kind of girl you describe.

Men are like dogs, in this way: "We like to chase". We like conquest.

If we come across a girl who is just out of our reach at all times... she inspires our passion, because you can never quite fully catch her , you are always chasing the carrot.

So if you like a little chase, as most men do, its good for awhile. Lol

Every now and then she will gives you a little pet on the head, and those pets you will live for, and exist as her emotional pet. Every now and then she lets you know shes pleased, and those moments become an addiction.

Not necessarily a healthy one.

Again, men are dogs, and she will keep us chasing...we like to chase. Rut Row!

But I think there is a higher love, although I have found that women who didnt make me chase a little bit I have gotten bored with pretty fast. We always want something that is just out of reach.

A woman like you describe will constantly be that way.

Thats the only good thing I can say, you might feel like a slave, but you will be passionate.

I don't know her or you, so refrain from having an actual opinion on the matter (while not refraining from posting a pointless response). For all I know, maybe her demands are reasonable, like she is demanding that you stop smoking your opium pipe long enough to eat some food.

Beauty doesn't last, and if that's the main reason you are hanging around, then RUN!!!

Hmmm, lucky you, Marian would be easier to get than Ginger, probably have to be a wealthy director for that one!

But l would personally go for the hot blonde in Friends, eventhough she is getting on, but l would still ask her out!


But there are plenty of fish in Australian waters, just have to avoid the sharks! :rolleyes:

Shane

Go with her anyway. She'll clean your clock in more ways than one and you'll know the right answer next time around.

I agree with Mark. (Whoah)

Hit it and quit it.

I know from first-hand experience that a woman like this is amazing in the short-term. Long-term? She'll wreck your life. Either you'll hate every minute of your life -- eventually even when you're having sex -- or you'll succumb and become some sackless cuckcold.

Oh, and another thing: I'll bet you dollars to donuts she's awful in the sack.

You know what they call that right...?

Really, it depends what your goal is. If you're looking to get married, have kids and settle down, I would run away. She'll be an awful mess of a nightmare to deal with after you get married.

She sounds like a fun one night stand though. Crazy girls are usually the best. Take caution though.. you might wake up in the morning in an ice filled bath tub with an organ missing. I'm telling ya.. girls like that are bat shit insane.

And you still have to ask whether you should pass?!

Beauty doesn't last forever, personality lasts longer?

"She's so fine, there's no tellin' where the money went." Robert Palmer "Simply Irresistible"


:-Don

There will ALWAYS be somebody prettier and better looking.

It sounds like you are looking for somebody to settle down with. If that's the case, you want somebody you can talk to. Communication is key to any lasting relationship. Sounds like you should look elsewhere.

Hump and dump. Get what you can and move on--no matter how good it is, it's not worth putting up with BS.

I believe in the saying, that you should never judge a book by its cover, however, it can be extremely difficult if they are high maintenance and won't listen.

I used to be engaged to a very pretty girl and she was terribly overweight, but I could see past that as beauty is only skin deep, she was very high maintenance and just weeks before we were due to get married, I ended the relationship, about 2 months later I was dating another girl who happened to be very slim, and the first thing that people said to me was, " Did you finish with your previous girlfriend, because she was fat"????

Takes all sorts to make a world!

I know

Just couldnt resist.

Physical attractiveness can often lead to this kind of behaviour.

Inexcusable and loathsome, yes, but it's easy to see how it happens when there are so many desperate, grovelling saps around only too eager to jump at a woman's every beck and call in the vain hope of getting something out of it. Usually a miserable lifetime of servitude.

Walk away if you want an easy time.

Myself, I do it more and more, but it's not always easy. Something inside tells me I have to cut them down a few notches. Maybe I'm equally childish, but I don't like the idea that conniving people can just move on to easier prey to get what they want.

And let's face it, their assets are in continual decline. Most of these types get what's coming to 'em later in life anyway.

@ Thunderbird

It was kind of an inside joke at "travelin guy", still true though , dont let her touch your moon pies (lol).

Im not sure why they call em that actually. Maybe because when you take a bite they look similar to a half moon?

Just give her the house now. You will eventually.

Well to update everyone. (Since I've been talking to her for a while.) What strikes be to be incredibly beautiful about her personality is her pleasant humble voice, along with her being very humble about her looks, her real talk (she is the opposite of a fake girl), and ya, that beautiful, spectacular face. Man, she looks like a hand made doll. With the luscious, long curly black hair and everything. This girl was blessed in every way when it comes to looks.

I also likes that she likes cooking and painting. She's a little bit sensitive too which is very feminine.

Looks - 10/10
Personality is split. On one hand, 10/10 on the other hand 1/10. Some parts of her personality are spectacular, while the other part completely sucks.

My 2 main issues are that she is extremely demanding because she is also extremely poor and I think her demanding side is her survival instinct. The other problem is that she is particularly low in IQ. Not very smart at all. Probably below standard. I'm not making fun of her but if she doesn't have smarts by now, I don't see a bright future.

She's the kind of girl who is prefers the traditional feminine role. Cook and clean while husband brings home the bacon. That part is ok but her lack of intelligence might be a problem in social settings. Ya. Gorgeous beyond belief (in my opinion) but wow .... really needs to go back to school.

She's basically a nice, pretty, dumb, demanding girl. Too be blunt. See the issue here?

Disclaimer: I would never go out with a girl simply for her looks. That is an amateur mistake. I've had my fair share of relationships with 2 being "in love" situations. Maybe when I was 18 I might do that, but I learned fast with how important personality is in relationships.

Well, now you've done it. You changed the parameters on us, thus striking our sage wisdom moot.

Marry this girl and use your keen intellect to confuse her whenever she starts getting uppity. Maybe shake your keys at her or show her something shiny.

To top things off, she has an husband she never got divorced with but has been separated from for over 6 years. This dude went to jail for selling drugs. He just broke up with some girlfriend and he's coming around telling her how much he loves her.

Its a mess. How can you trust an ex husband convict while in a relationship with his separated wife. All this baggage is what scares me.

May I ask what do you like about her?

albert12,

I would pass.....

Attitude, integrity and personality rarely change....

But, looks always will.....

Take Care,

Rich Beck

Definitely not trying to boast but I've delt with many different types of personalities when it comes to women. Mostly because I was in the seduction community my entire 4 years in college. And all we did was meet and date women. It was a great character building experience for me when it came to women.

This is what I can tell you for sure.

If this woman is demanding, I can guarantee you the she has LSE (low self esteem). Demanding people are controlling people, and controlling people act that way because they lack control over their own lives. Secure women do not feel that way, and do not feel an immense need to control other peoples lives.

Beauty is completely irrelevant when it comes to women.

It is perfectly fine to require that you date beautiful women, it is a horrible choice to allow beauty to blind you from reality.

IF YOU ACCEPT a beautiful women, with bad behavoirs, you are in effect REWARDING her BAD BEHAVOIRS.

Like if a cute dog craps on your rug, and you pet it and say "good dog".

Thats the same exact way you are conditioning this woman.

What this means for your future is:

1) A woman who doesn't respect you or your boundaries.
2) A woman who will persistently try overstepping your boundaries because you basically reward her based on her beauty, and nothing else.
3) An insecure woman who bitches, whines, complains, you become stressed out, you hate yourself, grow to hate her, but deep down inside still think its ok because your friends think shes hot. So you wind up living a fake miserable life just to gratify everyone but yourself.

Now lets think about this even more rationally.

You have 10 beautiful women lined up in front of you. They all have great personalities. Would you be wasting 1 minute of your time with the girl you're with now?

If the answer is yes, then you are merely sex obsessed and do not actually care about finding a good woman. You will contine to make terrible decisions and continue to hate yourself because of these decisions.

But we all know what the real answer would be, which is no. Of course you wouldn't tolerate her. So that leads us to conclude that the ONLY reason you are putting up with this girl is because you're desperate and don't have other options.

If you did, you would NOT be with her.

So if you want my real advice. You need to start being honest with yourself. You seem to suffer from a well known disease called "one-itis". You are about to subject yourself to a serious outbreak of that disease into all areas of your life. She will treat you like shit, you will become a doormat, you will buy her gifts, and she still won't respect you.

So you have 2 ultimate choices:

1) Lay down boundaries. If she doesn't respect them, ditch her immediately.
2) The smart decision. Realize that the problem began the minute you decided to interact with this girl. Not now, but the second you realized what she was and didn't walk away. That should have never happened. You shouldn't even be with her, so I wouldn't try laying down any boundaries. I would leave and do it fast.

What will really happen?

You will likely stay with her because thats what desperate guys do. They rarely change because like eating fast food, its too convenient not to change. Its too convenient to sweep the truth under the rug and ignore the future. Too convenient to satisfy yourself at the first opportunity you get, rather than wait for better opportunities.

Its nothing to get depressed about. But when things get worse, when she eventually loses all respect for you (if it hasn't already happened), just realize that you knew this would happen, there is only 1 person to blame for it, and its definitely not her.

Good luck - Red

I don't think its true, because all girls have not same behavior.

Find someone motivational, fun, and trustworthy. Remember: a beautiful woman is only a light switch away.

ALL dreams mean something. For some reason our culture completely overlooks them - some cultures live by them. Incidentally, there is little mental illness or violent crime in cultures that revere and study the meanings of their dreams. There is also almost total dream recall in those cultures. I will dream before I meet someone, but they aren't always the "Mr. Right" that I'd think from the dream. I am not what I would consider an expert at interpreting my dreams either, though. I do better at some than at others and I do work at it.

As far as soliciting.....yep - that's a bad way to go in building a relationship. People who are actually "searching" too actively will give false representation of who they are sometimes, whether subconsciously or consciously and it will backfire on them sooner or later. I fully agree with just being yourself and letting others be attracted or repelled by that. At least there is no mistake about what they are getting into.