Empower Network Parody Video

Pretty funny - especially to people making $90,000 a year from Empower Network (I know one personally). I bet they don't think it's a scam.

Now if you are a freebie seeking tire kicker than yeah, anything over $5 is always a scam.

It is very funny video though - and could be applied to so many programs.

However I regret that this 'perception' that you equate EN with Scam may harm people's ability to sell EmpowerNet.

(btw - I 'm not a member) - ... just sayin'

It's junk. Unethical blatant scam. And the creators (both Davids) are total dix.

I say that from first hand experience as one of the early members. Can't believe people are falling for the crap being promoted there. Idiots. (and yes I just called myself an idiot)

Edit: Funny vid tho, LOL

The video is funny.Someone else posted it here about a week or so ago but since he didn't name the program a lot of people missed viewing it.

Sounds like a spot-on description of MLM and the people who pitch them.

We just have to agree to disagree on this one Alexa.
Have you joined the company? I did.
And promptly quit.

Kay,
I don't know if it is illegal,but I am with you in that I feel it is a sheeple program. I know Facebook stopped taking ads from them,and considering how much FB loves money,that should tell you something.
As far as people making huge amounts of money? The founders and a few under them do make massive amounts of money,but by the time you get further down, the actual money made by the average person is very measly.

Me,I had a problem with their ethics,which is saying this is what you need to do,then when you join it is something completely different.

As a friend and well know warrior and marketer says when this is brought up, "Why would you sell someone else's product and not your own"?

You know I never thought EN would fly with our program because we have many 'newbies' and people just scoping out IM and 'gettting their feet wet' - and (even to an 'oldie' like me) $25 seems like about the limit I would've paid were I still doing affiliate marketing myself. But you know what? what can you really buy for $25? dinner? one shoe? What would you expect to get for that?

I can't believe how many people are joining AND upgrading - because I think, and not due to larceny or ethics or anything else but reality, companies are finding out when you have 'free' or 'cheap' your company is going to be full of 'dead wood' - you will pay a thousand times to support them and do everything you can to encourage them and they will just get deader and deader (and more 'entitled') - and your company will never go anywhere.

It is a mindset - now what is selling with EN are the products that cost over $1000 - and many are going 'All In' - which is several thousand dollars. (what breaks my heart is the people that think that paying is all they need to do and they will never get anywhere).

They will invest their last $1000 and then sit there and wonder why it doesn't come back to them - (it would never dawn on them they have to work HARD to promote their business - if it costs $5 or $5000 - don't sit and wait to see 'what happens' - because it will be exactly nothing unless they are consistent and aggressive in their advertising and marketing and don't believe in the tooth fairy.

I can't really say anything about EN first-hand because I never joined - but as I said I see a great deal of response among our members and they are traveling to go to events, always involved in all the excitement and only a few sales will get them their investment back - because we are talking BIG numbers (big to me).

Like Stone says - it is easier to get 4 sales than 200 sales - I guess it depends who you are trying to sell it to - and the 4 need to think big commissions not measly $5 or whatever... Somehow the people who are going 'All In' seem very sophisticated to me. (maybe because I would never in my wildest dreams be able to invest that kind of money in something that is not a 'sure thing').

Kay - Empower Network has nothing to do with Empowerism - Empowerism went out of business and Janet is missing in action from what I understand. There is no association at all - but maybe they would have chosen a different name either because it was being used by Janet or because Empowerism started to suck and then tanked.

It also had no similar claims or anything even remotely resembling EN as far as I know - They had "profit sharing" (which only worked the first year). They had a magazine and a few measly tools - that was it.

EN is very different from Empowerism, especially in the products it promotes. ... and by the way they are real products - better be for that price, yo?

Just the word 'empower' is a 'buzz word' - always has been in IM (in my 9 years) - I think I even just saw food or something with that name - I was just at the supermarket so it must be food - but I know I saw it somewhere and can't remember - I think some sports drink maybe.


Alexa - I could never live like that (chicken) but I guess people are willing to take risks and will 'ride the wave' - get the money while they can - if the company tanks I would rather have it happen to people that have recovered their investment (made money with the program) - and that they can be glad 'it was great while it lasted' -

... let's face it nothing lasts forever.

Yes - the mindset is one of entitlement.

I don't understand why people think that businesses are not supposed to make a profit. They give and give and people don't even think they deserve to recover THEIR investment in having a system, program, community etc. They are supposed to be charity organizations that just do it so everybody else can make money?

Believe me I see this from both sides and while as I said I do not do affiliate marketing, mlm, or even network marketing - I have tried and tried - i just have no passion for any of it. and I love the internet marketing industry - but my thing is services - technical etc - that's what i do.

So go to blogger and have a blog there (from what i hear that can be real good being it is Google - ugly or whatever - it is free - and may B good 4 SEO right now).

Even WP you have to have a host and a domain - so wow we better call out the mounties somebody is making $10 someplace. It's not me so it is not fair.

Seriously everything is optional - if you don't think it is fair, don't do it.

Simple.

anyway - i guess this is one place we will have to agree to disagree.

I don't see anyone saying any business shouldn't make a profit,as long as it is honest and legal.

And ,as I said earlier, a friend of mine made an excellent point when they said they didn't understand selling someone else's IM products when they have their own to sell.
Which is what EN is selling,

I think my friend makes a very good point.

Now getting back to the OP, whether you like EN or don't,they video is very funny.

yes but kim - that is a major selling point of WHY people are affiliates - because they do not have the knowledge/skills or maybe capital to create their own product - so the programs give them the right to make money from their intellectual property and other resources.

.. and it costs money to run a site/program - they have hosting, technical and admin support, they paid to develop the program (programmers, etc) - they need to cover their expenses - and i do think it is fair for them to make a profit.

Did you ever price a payment gateway? that is one of the first things i lost money on - monthly fees to every credit card - with or without sales - and then other fees if there are sales - i mean it is a list of things you have to pay to accept payments - (why people put up with paypal).

So I would be the first one to protest that 'e-wallet' charge - however i can see why it costs money (and $25 is cheap compared to what I paid in the above scenario).

None of this matters to me in the long run.
It is like what you said above Pat:
"Seriously everything is optional - if you don't think it is fair, don't do it.

Simple."

and I usually don't even discuss this unless I am asked directly,then I give my honest opinion.

"if you're actually "paying to play", on the quiet, then you have a big problem"

It's not on the quiet. The $25/mo blog does not enable you to become a reseller. You need to pay a separate fee of $19.95 if you choose to be a reseller.


Andrew

When you tell someone the truth numerous times and they reject it,it is time to stop wasting your breathe.

Hysterical video!!!

Curiosity killed this cat. I did join EN, then promptly quit. Call me a 'wussie' but I smelled a rat. Lots of rats. I'd be embarassed to promote such a gig. Found it sad.

Network marketing already has a lousy reputation, even though there are some reputable companies who make some of the highest quality products available. So maybe the saddest is what they are doing to further diminish an already suffering MLM reputation.

Here they are selling 'advanced training' and yet their reps spammed social media to the point of being banned from facebook??? Wow, nice training.

No physical product. Expensive 'training' that's mostly upsells.

No refunds. No integrity. No can do.

video was really excellent and explains how EN is now going

I needed to laugh today. This video hit the spot!

To funny! Thanks for sharing!!

LOVED IT! haha

-Omar

Lolololol. That is hilarious!

What is the Empower Network? Lol, I just posted the same question in another forum thread.

All I see on the site is hype & what looks like a pyramid scheme (no product).

Anyone? Bueller?

I joined something like that, or that, when I first got online. It ended up in me filing a complaint with my bank for a chargeback.

To make these things, and yes they are pyramid schemes, legal - there has to be an exchange of goods and/or services for the member's investment. The one I joined gave email addresses in exchange for the monthly fee, but it was still an obligation of mine to recruit if I was going to make any ROI that mattered. Very borderline legal. Had it not been for the email addresses, the borderline would have disappeared.

Anyway - long story short, when I quit they changed their mind about how much notice I had to give to get out, being unaware that I had screenshots. Hell - I was a newbie and basically stupid enough to drool a little now and then when determining what I was doing with anything technological. Who'd have thought that someone so close to being mentally flatlined enough to join their company would be sharp enough to take screenshots. Well the insuing brewhaha ended up with a pretty nice little investigation of the "service". It did not shut them down but it sure did get me a fast refund.

Haha this video is hilarious, loved it.

For the non members who where wondering about EN

Its def not a scam, I should know, I own all the products 1. en blog network 2. inner circle 3. costa rica intensive 4. 15k formula 5. mastermind course

& I will say I have def made money with EN & have build a residual income

You just have to invest alot in the beginning thats the only problem, but you will see results in the long run

The thing is en is really clever because they are actually making people pay for a product that true you could do for free or cheaper but the kicker is in the domain. What do I mean by this, basically, if you look at alexa rankings en is like 150 or something pretty high like that I can't remember. If you're trying to get your blog seen and viewed for exposure, sure you can apply seo strategies and what not, but if you don't know seo or other ways of getting your blog exposed easily enough being on that empower network domain makes things a whole lot easier. I was in empower network and while me personally I didn't mind the 25 dollars a month, it was once they start getting you to upgrade to all their products to earn so much money. Your initial investment if you want to go all in is like $5100 in investment, and I'm sorry, but most people don't really have that much to invest especially with no guarantees of getting it back. Then you have to keep paying 125 a month so you can continue to get all the commissions. It annoyed me that for the $25 you only got the blogging platform. I understand if you want to upsell and have people buy more training products but at least in my oppinion that $25 a month investment should have had some training on how to use your blog and get it exposed. Instead, you have to pay an extra $100 just to even get a tiny bit of there training, and that's what annoys me about en.

It is up to an individual to decide if it is a scam.

I personally feel it is and I joined just to see the inside. (No, I did not go "all in" as they try to convince you to do).

Even the $25 a month blog is really $45,\because they charge/require you to use their payment processor,which is an additional $20 a month.

I know quite a few people that have joined. I usually ask them 2 questions,have you made any money? They usually say yes.

Then I ask if they are making more than they are spending monthly. That answer is usually either a not yet or a flat out no.

I could go on and on but I won't.

The video is quite funny.

ewwww. I hate people that pretend to be so savvy and wise but their little version of their "truth" just doesn't quite ring true in fact.

In your article - you mention Plug-In Profit Site and the 'cookie cutter' sites. Our sites are fully customizable, built on the Wordpress platform, (blog themes are 'cookie cutter' too or is that reserved for your melodramatics?)

... and you can customize it to include any other program you have that is not related to the ones we 'force' on you -- BTW (they are all optional other than the host which also includes an autoresponder for the website we will build for free. (+ 1 affiliate program - all for about $10 a month)

It's a place to start - something to build on for newbies-- and oldies: we have many famous internet marketing success stories that started with PIPS - and some of the bigger ones are still partners with us. Including Ewen Chia, Russell Brunson, Joel Therien, even Allen Says, Willie Crawford and Mike Filsaime go way back. Lifetime membership is free and you can always get the latest version for free as many times as you come and go -

In your article - you mention how Empower Network is so egregious with their commission structure - you say nobody can earn commissions unless they go 'all in' - that's not true. (a lie)

The basic starter is $25 plus $20 for the e-wallet. You can earn $25 commissions.
If you go to $100 you can earn $100 commissions
If you go to $500 you can earn $500 commissions
and on up to what is called "All In" $997 and $3500.

Note: I am not a member of Empower Network and it doesn't affect me whether you like them or not. but if you are going to put yourself out there as some kind of an expert, then get your facts straight.

By the way Empower Network is RE-LAUNCHING - You can sign up to see 2 silly videos and get the eBook on THE BLOG BEAST -It is quite educational about blogging - and of course advertises their new BLOG PLATFORM. The eBook is about the biggest blogging blunders.

I thought I could share the link - (but) I have no idea how I got the email with the link to the videos - it doesn't work without the tail on it and i don't want to post an affiliate link. But all you haters will be hearing lots about the blog beast in the near future - the launch of Empower Network Version 2.0 is October 18.

I sure hope not Les.

I am glad you reminded me of another point in the article that bends the truth just in such a way to make her points. (In talking about how Facebook banned EN and how that is a sure sign EN is going to hell).

While I don't blame Facebook a bit, (at least for this) how can a company control what their members do as far as spamming their affiliate links all over the place? By the same token companies should take steps to warn their newbies that to do this will do nothing but bring disgrace and SURBL/URIBL blacklist for the domain and the business. It affects EVERYTHING including people's ability to sell the program.

... maybe they will be so busy blogging they won't have time to spam.

The blog beast kills wordpress

Yes Les - I see your point. I guess in just telling the members what to do to promote their link it was not sufficiently qualified - 'do not spam - but for your legitimate promotions, use this link'. And if they are specifically pointing them to the forum, then that is really bad on them and they deserve the blacklist.

Personally, I ban people on the first spam - no questions asked, no warnings. Just banned. Maybe I am a hard-nose - but I also don't think there is anybody who hates rampant emails more than I do - even something I sign up for and request information - if I start getting emails every day, I unsubscribe.

Further there is nothing that makes me think of a company as an obnoxious nuisance more than the concept of 'flooding' (drowning) people with affiliate links. Eau de kool aid.

I just wonder though what some companies have that makes them in the multi-million dollar category right off the bat, while so many other posers and losers sit around and try to harm the people that ARE making money. I don't mean the principals - I mean the affiliates that don't spam and who are seriously trying to earn a living.

I am shocked that the feds haven't stepped in yet. This business model is illegal. The only thing I can think of is they are doing a massive investigation that extends beyond the owners and into the downline.

The poo poo has to hit the fan eventually and it isn't going to be pretty. The forum meltdowns will be spectacular.

I got into that crap when I was first online - for a month or two while I was figuring out what being online was all about. I learned a lot from it. Lost the money, of course, but was worth the lesson.

I was actually smart enough to take a screen shot of the user agreement. Also a few other things. After a few months of getting "leads" with email addies such as Uwannafuk@ -- (which was the most memorable of the real addies they sent me), I figured out that the whole kit and kaboodle was a scam and a waste of money, so I canceled my membership --- and they charged me another month. That's when the fun started.

I went to the bank and claimed bank fraud - then had to show proofs of things like cancellation policy (which I was actually fortunate enough to have). When it all boiled down, though, what got my money back was the fact that they had closed my account and refused me the leads for a month that they charged me for. You cannot legallly charge someone for service, then deny the service to them.

I had received an email from one of the beotches in response to my email about them charging me and then not providing service --- in which she said to me "you aren't real bright, are you". Of course, as a techno-idiot newbie, it was more than my pleasure to be able to send an email back with her quote and ask her: "If I'm not too bright, you must be drooling, huh?" LMAO.

And that was the first and last time I've been scammed in a program online.