Seriously? 8 emails in 4 days from the same marketer?

I dont know Kay... I guess I just get it in my heart to like someone, and I just have to keep giving them the benefit of the doubt?

Dont have the heart to shut them off?

Maybe think someday I will need something they promote?

I dont really know.

Thats a good question.

Did I ever tell you I lost 12k on a sort of 419 once?

A guy bought a liquidation load from me, and sent a large check, I deposited it and told them we would have to wait till it cleared to ship his container... He had his own shipper that he wanted to use and asked me to take xxxx.xx amount out of the check he sent and forward it to the shipper via western union.

The check cleared my bank, so I had no reason to think anything was amiss... So I took it out and forwarded the money to his shipper (in short), and proceeded to get his load ready for shipment...

But, when the check went through the second bank a week or so later, it was identified as bogus... and right before I shipped a whole 40' container of product to him, I was contacted by the bank and told that I owed them $12,000.

They took no responsibility for the fact they THEY were the ones who cleared the check... wasnt their responsibility they said.

In any event I had no recourse. These guys are good. There arent any laws in their country against scamming Americans.

Okay, so I exaggerated with the half a dozen . But John only said 8 emails in 4 days, so I'm assuming 2 per day, which isn't unreasonable, depending. That marketer may have a follow-up series, plus sending broadcasts, which isn't abnormal.

He also said it was a fave marketer, so I would also assume that he normally wants to hear from the guy. Then again, now he's said that he rarely opens mails as they're all promos. If he meant that particular marketer, then I'd agree that perhaps it's time to unsubscribe.

I no longer keep marketers around for long if I don't get some kind of value from their correspondence. As to updates, that's mostly bullshit. I know that I can count on one hand the number of updates I've ever been sent for information products - less than all five fingers, too.

If I only get a new promo every time someone mails (and it's not their products), then I unsub now. Especially if this is daily, as that tells me they're not reviewing those products.

I send a promo almost every time I email, but most of these are my own products. The ones that are not are always products I either bought or was given a review copy so that I know I'm not promoting crap.

If you're going to send me anything and everything, you clearly aren't concerned with my welfare so I have no desire to contribute to your income.

From the same person or 5 different promoters?

Hey Kim,

First of all, its always good to see you post.

I wanted to address something about your article because I read it and it was great, but also wanted to shed some light on one point, about people asking you to join forums or membership sites...

I think, at least for me, one reason to put your product in a forum or membership site is because of "piracy". I have considered integrating all of my future products into the form of forums or membership sites, simply so they can be ripped off.

So I can kind of see the reason people do that, if they are thinking the same things. Just thought I would offer an explanation, at least from my own perspective, as to why a seller would do that.

If your product is in the form of a forum, then it cant be ripped off in one fail swooop... Only members can get in, and even if a person copies and pastes the content as a member, they would have to come back every day and do it in order to fully take advantage..., its not like a full product in a single pdf that they can just come swipe and give away to a million people in one shot.

It's something that requires a password for daily access to, as opposed to a pdf file that they can just buy once, under a random username, and then go list it for free on a million pirate sites.

Many blessing bro!

-John

There are two kinds of email marketers:

Machine guns and cannons.

The machine guns spray the emails in abundance. The cannons less often, but they create a greater impact.

I don't have much regard for the machine guns...

Lol I guess so! Thanks Jody.... Im going to leave it there , just because its funny now that you point it out.

Yeah it does make sense. There are all kinds of ways that could work, because with a forum you can block off certain areas and make them available only to members who have paid for access to that particular area.

There really isnt any need to have more than one if you are using it for this purpose, except maybe somehow for seo. But your membership site isnt a squeeze page anyway... In this case, it's just a private, exclusive place where you send your customers to from other marketing that you do, as a resource center.

Also it enables further discussion on the subject for your customers, who all have something in common having taken the course together or whatever... Which is important when people are trying to implement the teaching to have feed back and moral support from others.

Lastly, a broader knowledge base accumulates through the discussions, and it just makes your product that much more valuable.

Sorry cant resist sharing that, because I think its pretty cool.

-John