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Why Are Plastics Still Used For Take-Out?

by thunderbird
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BPA is just one of a number of hormone-like substances in plastic. Contact with hot food causes it to leach.

"Since at least 1936 it has been known that BPA mimics estrogens, binding to the same receptors throughout the human body as natural female hormones."
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    People are still ordering food that's wrapped in it. Even paper from a fast food joint isn't safe. That gets sprayed with something that stops leakage. I just don't eat fastfood and would just as soon leave it alone until they make it into food in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    And you know what I LOVE(SARC)!?!?!? They actually think they can measure it. They CAN'T! What they are measuring is digested and NONABSORBED chemicals! So if they find 80ng, ALL they know is that the person was exposed to MORE than that!

    But we are SURROUNDED by poisons that are naturally so INFINITESIMAL that it is as if they NEVER existed before.

    HEY, just look at how hard it is to find clean water or something to store water in! Nuclear weapons are about the most destructive. Nuclear power is about the only 100% self contained perpetual producer of power. Plastic is, as the name implies, the simplest formable and stable material. Aluminum is the most abundant metal on the planet. Gasoline is the most stable material to easily provide so much power.

    So it is obvious why people use them. Solar is better than nuclear, but needs more complexity to be perpetual. It is dependent on the sun. Some plastics are better, but harder to work with. Metal is better, but less workable. Stainless steel is better than aluminum, but weighs more, and is harder. Hybrids today try to leverage gas for emergencies.

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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I read an article where the writer was proclaming there was a potential (not proven - just his thought at the time) problem that fast food containers might impart some chemical in minute doses into the food. All the righteous outrage, etc.

      My thought was - if you are eating that crap...what's one more toxin?
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  • Profile picture of the author mojojuju
    So if I want to get a sex change, but I can't afford the necessary hormones, would eating hot food wrapped in packaging containing BPA be a good option?
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

      So if I want to get a sex change, but I can't afford the necessary hormones, would eating hot food wrapped in packaging containing BPA be a good option?
      Well, it DOES cause degradation of testosterone, and can cause atrophy. It is credited to be a reason for all the related male problems.

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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by mojojuju View Post

      So if I want to get a sex change, but I can't afford the necessary hormones, would eating hot food wrapped in packaging containing BPA be a good option?
      Combine that with Propecia (baldness 'cure') and that just might do it:

      Transgender Hormones : TransGenderCare Medical Feminizing Program

      "When anti-androgens are given, particularly finasteride (Proscar, Propecia) in combination with spironolactone (Aldactone), full feminization is obtained"

      (I'm becoming a font of nauseous knowledge)
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Plastic is cheap.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Plastic is cheap.
      It's one of those things that is cheap in the front end but extremely costly at the back-end, where it ends up.
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        It's one of those things that is cheap in the front end but extremely costly at the back-end, where it ends up.
        Western culture has a very "front end" mentality I guess.
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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          Western culture has a very "front end" mentality I guess.
          I came to understanding that concept when I was selling POS machines to businesses. They seemed to be convenient and open a new avenue for making money at the front, but then the businesses owners would be hit with an array of "service costs" from banks, paying a fee for every transaction, from credit card companies and paying a percentage for every transaction, paying for the receipt paper (not cheap), paying rent or lease. I made money a lot of money from it but felt like a schmuck. When a friend of mine with a fruit and vegetable store that only accepts hard cash asked me why I never tried selling the POS machine to him, I replied, "Because you're my friend."
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          • Profile picture of the author seasoned
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            I came to understanding that concept when I was selling POS machines to businesses. They seemed to be convenient and open a new avenue for making money at the front, but then the businesses owners would be hit with an array of "service costs" from banks, paying a fee for every transaction, from credit card companies and paying a percentage for every transaction, paying for the receipt paper (not cheap), paying rent or lease. I made money a lot of money from it but felt like a schmuck. When a friend of mine with a fruit and vegetable store that only accepts hard cash asked me why I never tried selling the POS machine to him, I replied, "Because you're my friend."
            Well, a number of old POS charges are now OBSOLETE! NOW, it is like:

            PROCESSOR BILLING CHARGE, MAYBE.... FIXED and maybe $10/month
            PROCESSOR/ACCOUNT CHARGE, MAYBE.... FIXED and maybe $20/month
            GATEWAY CHARGE, MAYBE.... FIXED and maybe $20/MONTH
            PROCESSOR TRX FEE, MAYBE.... FIXED $.30/TRX
            PROCESSOR TRX PCT, MAYBE.... 3%
            GATEWAY TRX FEE, MAYBE.... $.30/TRX
            GATEWAY TRX PCT, MAYBE.... $.30/TRX

            So if you make over about $1 profit on each sale, and maybe $60 a month, it is at least OK to allow credit cards. Of course my estimates over all might be a bit on the high side. Paypal puts almost all charges in their TRX fees, and is roughly equivalent to only having a processor TRX PCT, above. You only have to add the monthly processor fees if you get paypal PRO.

            At least you can use NORMAL PAPER, and everything else can be commodity so NO added monthly, or crazy, costs THERE!

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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Once again, overcome by the merely obvious.

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      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Plastic is cheap.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Unless your a farmer that never buys food from a store or restaurant, your eating things you would never dream of.

    I was a welder for a few years in the late 90's, did a welding job for a major frozen food business. Maggots anyone? Not joking.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Unless your a farmer that never buys food from a store or restaurant, your eating things you would never dream of.

      I was a welder for a few years in the late 90's, did a welding job for a major frozen food business. Maggots anyone? Not joking.
      WHY NOT? They have a LOT of salmonella problems. plants should NOT have salmonella!!!!!!

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Plastic lets off toxic gas even when nothing it touches gets near your mouth. When I lived in Germany (early 70s) they kept their plastic items on porches and in breezeways and out of the main house. Of course, that was before everything you owned was made from plastic. I still avoid the stuff whenever humanly possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Plastic lets off toxic gas even when nothing it touches gets near your mouth. When I lived in Germany (early 70s) they kept their plastic items on porches and in breezeways and out of the main house. Of course, that was before everything you owned was made from plastic. I still avoid the stuff whenever humanly possible.
      Ever cut a credit card, or even CREASE ONE? YIKES! IT STINKS!!!!!!!

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