English language is weird.

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In that context "recommendation" is much better. (A "tip" is more for advising someone what to do, or how to do something. You could perhaps say that it's a tip to "visit this website", but the website itself would be a recommendation, rather than a tip.)

"I recommend this website to you". (Perfectly good.)

"This website is my recommendation". (Also good.)

"I offer you a tip: visit this website". (Also ok.)

Originally Posted by HzCy

English language is weird.

Yes - it's true. Most English-speakers will agree with you, I think.

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Newbieee

11 years ago

I say YES IT IS. !

My english is not queens english.
But i know enough to know that its weird.

A E I O U
Normal case : This is an elephant.
Abnormal case : This is an honest boy.

Becos "honest" is pronounce as "Onest"

And another one which is best told in a story.

One day a passenger on a flight asked the stewardess for a warm drink.
She went to get him one and served him.
He then went on to drink it but it was hot.
So he burnt his tongue and he scolded the stewardess "WHY IS THIS HOT, I ASKED FOR WARM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH! NOW YOU BURNT MY TANGEEUUUWWW. "

And the stewardess said "sir its "tung", you burnt your "tung" "
And he said "I DONT WANT TO ARG WITH YOU ! "

for those who still didnt get it, it was suppose to be "argue"

There are many other examples but i cant think of it now.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Newbieee

I say YES IT IS. !

My english is not queens english.
But i know enough to know that its weird.

A E I O U
Normal case : This is an elephant.
Abnormal case : This is an honest boy.

Becos "honest" is pronounce as "Onest"

And another one which is best told in a story.

One day a passenger on a flight asked the stewardess for a warm drink.
She went to get him one and served him.
He then went on to drink it but it was hot.
So he burnt his tongue and he scolded the stewardess "WHY IS THIS HOT, I ASKED FOR WARM, DO YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH! NOW YOU BURNT MY TANGEEUUUWWW. "

And the stewardess said "sir its "tung", you burnt your "tung" "
And he said "I DONT WANT TO ARG WITH YOU ! "

for those who still didnt get it, it was suppose to be "argue"

There are many other examples but i cant think of it now.

On I love Lucy, they had a long skit about:

cough (off)
tough (uf)
through (ew)
enough (uf)

English IS old, etc... There are a lot of changes that happened for many reasons.

Steve

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HeySal

11 years ago

The language has a weird history.

Alexa's answer fits American English (yeah, UKer's, stop laughing, we DO speak English even if its not King's). In the UK they are often much more formal than in the US, if that helps you decide between other words in the future.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

The reason there are so many synonyms in English is because letters represent sounds. If English were written hieroglyphically, as Chinese is (sort of), there would be far fewer synonyms.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

The reason there are so many synonyms in English is because letters represent sounds. If English were written hieroglyphically, as Chinese is (sort of), there would be far fewer synonyms.

Not necessarily. Synonyms are EXACTLY alike in meaning. We have so many words that mean almost the same because in our society we have a need to discriminate in fine detail.

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hardraysnight

11 years ago

i guess i am a native speaker, but have never heard of normal case and abnormal case used like this

i think i have an abnormal case, it is yellow, light and strong

english is a vibrant living language, use it, dont talk about it

make a mistake, who cares, at least you are trying

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socialentry

11 years ago

the "th" in "the" is apparently very hard for foreign speakers to get

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seasoned

11 years ago

BTW regarding honest....

H may be pronounced (like HOT), or NOT (like honest).
HEY, try to figure out HOTEL! It could be EITHER way!

Even americans have, historically, varied various sounds. And there are lots of shortcuts. Such shortcuts exist in most other languages also.

Steve

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Frank Donovan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW regarding honest....
H may be pronounced (like HOT), or NOT (like honest).
HEY, try to figure out HOTEL! It could be EITHER way!

I've always found it weird that Americans don't pronounce the H in herb.

It must be confusing for fans of erb Alpert. :confused:

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Frank Donovan

I've always found it weird that Americans don't pronounce the H in herb.

It must be confusing for fans of erb Alpert. :confused:

Herb is a guy. An herb is something we eat. It's best not to confuse the two.

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Newbieee

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

BTW regarding honest....

H may be pronounced (like HOT), or NOT (like honest).
HEY, try to figure out HOTEL! It could be EITHER way!

Even americans have, historically, varied various sounds. And there are lots of shortcuts. Such shortcuts exist in most other languages also.

Steve

I got another one..

Pronounce flow in ur head.
Then add the "er".
It becomes flower. haha

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Frank Donovan

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Herb is a guy. An herb is something we eat. It's best not to confuse the two.

And yet "an herb" sounds like a girl's name.

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Dennis Gaskill

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

Every time I sow my seeds, the sow digs them up.

Wanna buy a fence?

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Wanna buy a fence?

If you're not a fence, how about I fence you for it?

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  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  If you're not a fence, how about I fence you for it?
  
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hardraysnight

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Wanna buy a fence?

I thought fences sold

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Joel Young

11 years ago

Yes, English is very strange. One of my favorite/favourite examples is ghoti. It is pronounced fish. Why?

Take the gh as we pronounce it in enough (f)...
Take the i as pronounced in women (short i)...
Take the ti as pronounced in nation (sh)...

gh+o+ti = fish

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PROmotions LLC

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Joel Young

Yes, English is very strange. One of my favorite/favourite examples is ghoti. It is pronounced fish. Why?

Take the gh as we pronounce it in enough (f)...
Take the i as pronounced in women (short i)...
Take the ti as pronounced in nation (sh)...

gh+o+ti = fish

Learned about that in english class in high school back in the day! Totally forgot about Ghoti until just now!! Thanks for bringing it back for me!

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Jacob Padget

11 years ago

Both are okay. You may want to go with "tip-off" rather than "tip" for that sentence.

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

There are also all of the heteronyms too.

Please excuse me as I have no excuse.

I moped until he let me drive the moped.

Today I was able to record my first record.

I aimed my bow, shot my arrow, hit the bulls eye and took a bow.

I wound the gauze around my wound.

Every time I sow my seeds, the sow digs them up.

Terra

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

There are also all of the heteronyms too.

Please excuse me as I have no excuse.

I moped until he let me drive the moped.

Today I was able to record my first record.

I aimed my bow, shot my arrow, hit the bulls eye and took a bow.

I wound the gauze around my wound.

Every time I sow my seeds, the sow digs them up.

Terra

And many Americans pronounce ALL of those words differently, like exkewz and exkews or rekkord and rekerd or sow sounding like sew and s followed by a sound like the ou in ouch.

Steve

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waterotter

11 years ago

There is a two-letter word in English that perhaps has more meanings than any other two-letter word, and that word is 'UP.' It is listed in the dictionary as being used as an [adv], [prep], [adj], [n] or [v].

It's easy to understand UP, meaning toward the sky or at the top of the list, but when we awaken in the morning, why do we wake UP?

At a meeting, why does a topic come UP ? Why do we speak UP, and why are the officers UP for election and why is it UP to the secretary to write UP a report? We call UP our friends and we use it to brighten UP a room, polish UP the silver, we warm UP the leftovers and clean UP the kitchen. We lock UP the house and some guys fix UP the old car.

At other times the little word has a real special meaning. People stir UP trouble, line UP for tickets, work UP an appetite, and think UP excuses.&bsp;

To be dressed is one thing but to be dressed UP is special.

And this UP is confusing:
A drain must be opened UP because it is stopped UP.

We open UP a store in the morning but we close it UP at night. We seem to be pretty mixed UP about UP!

To be knowledgeable about the proper uses of UP, look the word UP in the dictionary. In a desk-sized dictionary, it takes UP almost 1/4 of the page and can add UP to about thirty definitions

If you are UP to it, you might try building UP a list of the many ways UP is used. It will take UP a lot of your time, but if you don't give UP, you may wind UP with a hundred or more.

When it threatens to rain, we say it is clouding UP . When the sun comes out we say it is clearing UP. When it rains, it wets UP the earth. When it does not rain for awhile, things dry UP.

One could go on & on, but I'll wrap it UP, for now..........my time is UP, so time to shut UP!

Oh...one more thing:
What is the first thing you do in the morning & the last thing you do at night? U P

Don't screw UP. Send this on to everyone you look UP in your address book.

Now I'll shut UP.......

Oops, one last comment - English is a difficult language to learn but, that also depends on your native language....which leads to.....

WHICH SYNONYM TO USE???

Because of its diverse, promiscuous etymological origins, English has lots of synonyms which, just from a dictionary definition, seem very similar if not identical in meaning. Part of becoming a master English speaker, is knowing which words to use when. Although synonyms are grouped up in a thesaurus, that doesn’t mean the words are identical. Even if their official meanings are identical, different synonyms convey subtly different moods and ideas.

You can watch a movie or see a movie, but you can only watch TV, never see it. You can’t view either of them, even though when you watch either of them, you become a viewer (and never a watcher, much less a seer!) Try explaining that to someone who speaks Arabic!

Now I'll shut UP! :p

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seasoned

11 years ago

There is always the old confusing park on a driveway and drive on a parkway!

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abdobasha2004

11 years ago

tip and recommendation are different
if you use website tips this is like how to optimize website
if you use website recommendation this mean that this site is good and you invite others to see it

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John Durham

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Not necessarily. Synonyms are EXACTLY alike in meaning. We have so many words that mean almost the same because in our society we have a need to discriminate in fine detail.

Nice. We simply make more distinctions. I like that.