The Dream Experiment Thread

by HeySal
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Hey Warriors - anyone up for an adventure into the subconscious mind?

The experiment is: We think of images that we want to send to another Warrior in their sleep. We did this in the forum a few years ago and the results were sometimes extremely surprising.

Before we begin - I'd like anyone that is interested in participating to post here so we know who we're working with and what time zone they are in.

After you post your interest in participating - start making a point to tell yourself that you will remember your dreams. If you wake in the middle of the night - don't open your eyes, reach for the pen and paper you have put by the bed and write down everything you remember. If you wait until morning you will not remember it, or much of it even if one or two segments stick. The point is - start conditioning yourself to remember your dreams.

I'll post the next step after we get at least 5 sign-ups.

Who's in for a really psych round of the Dream Experiment?
  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    I'd be interested.

    I'm in Amsterdam. Whatever time that is.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Count me in!

      Oh, I'm in Eastern Standard Time also known as New York Time.

      Terra
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    What the heck, I'm interested. I am currently on EST, aka NEW YORK TIME, also.

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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I'll do it, but I've got to admit I'm very skeptical of shared dreams and won't be a believer until I've experienced it works for myself.

      GMT +7.
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    KEWL - - Okay people - I don't need your TIME ZONE - I need your LOCATION - going to sync us up with the pawprint world clock.

    Bravo - There's no marker on the clock for Holland - is your time the same as German, Belgium, or Denmark?

    I have no clue what GMT time is - the world clock uses UTC - that is 2 hours ahead of us on the US west coast and 1 hour behind Eastern Standard.

    Give me your country - or US state you are in so I can coordinate the times. I'll have to post that set up so everyone can understand what times everything is happening. Kewl?

    Fin - where the heck are you?

    Where TF is Jared?
    Terra - didn't you do this with us last time around?
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Terra - didn't you do this with us last time around?
      No! How in the heck did I miss it??

      Okay, Michigan, ha, but you knew that.

      I usually sleep between 11 p.m. until 5:30 a.m. on weeknights. Weekends differ.

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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Yeah... I'm down with this, interested to see what transpires.

    Put me down for EST (Florida, US)

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Okay people - I am going to put up links to my WP with info so you won't have to sort back through the thread every day - the thread will just be for general chatter. Anyone can come on board at any time they want to - you don't have to start with the group to get in the door.

    So this is the link location post. (links will go up as I get things done).

    Time calibration for experiment members (coming soon).
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    I am going out - I'll get us all calibrated after dark. There's a rock out there with my name on it.
    I'm waiting for an answer on room space so we can get directions and stuff posted off- thread so the continuum doesn't get lost in the thread.

    I forgot - when you give your location, let us know which hours of the night are your NORMAL sleeping hours. We realize that nobody sticks to that 100% but a good idea of when you are sleeping is important.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      I usually sleep 5pm PDT, so I guess that is about midnight in Europe.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I usually sleep 5pm PDT, so I guess that is about midnight in Europe.
        Is Finland your country? I'm going to correlate everyone from GMT so need to know what country you are in.

        Bravo = I'm not getting a time reading for Holland - are you on the same time as Belgium, Germany or Denmark?
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        Originally Posted by fin View Post

        I usually sleep 5pm PDT, so I guess that is about midnight in Europe.
        Fin - I have you at GMT + 7 - where the heck are you?

        Okay - putting us all on chart for our location and time relative to GMT (London). Most participants are at GMT - 4 (minus 4). Will post this tomorrow so we can all see who is actually sleeping at the same time we are. Watch out for Jerad - he likes to mess with ya while he's awake and you aren't
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    My current sleep pattern is try to be asleep by 2 am, up by 8am... it does vary some.

    Oh, and I'm in Florida for the time being
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Normal 12am-6am. NOW, more like 10pm-6am. I have a stomach flu or something, and am trying to conserve energy, etc...

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  • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
    Vermont, 4am-10am.

    Sal, refresh my memory, what was it that you and I connected with the last time you did this experiment?

    I just remember it freaking me out cause the experiment actually worked!
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

      Vermont, 4am-10am.

      Sal, refresh my memory, what was it that you and I connected with the last time you did this experiment?

      I just remember it freaking me out cause the experiment actually worked!
      It was a dig site with a stone at it. There was also part of that dream that I was in an office talking to some guy that didn't seem to connect to anything you specified but then I left the office and drove to a part of a hill I'd wanted to check out that had dig tailings, and I found a rock there. That was where we connected. Did you get your pm at TM?
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      • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        It was a dig site with a stone at it. There was also part of that dream that I was in an office talking to some guy that didn't seem to connect to anything you specified but then I left the office and drove to a part of a hill I'd wanted to check out that had dig tailings, and I found a rock there. That was where we connected. Did you get your pm at TM?

        Ahh yes, now I remember... & yes, just sent you back a PM @ TM
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Kewl - okay -

    Okay everyone - tomorrow some time I'll have a link for each of you to register free at Jared's house (TM.com) where I'll post stuff about the experiment - generally whats going on - a list of times where everyone is and what time they are sleeping - and directions for how we're going to proceed. That will keep this thread open for chatter without everyone having to hunt for relevant info every darned time they have a question or want to remember where someone is.

    For tonight - everyone just concentrate on this picture and see if anything about dogs comes up in your dreams - This is not how the experiments run, but it is a good way to condition yourself to gain a little bit of subconscious control. If you don't see dog or dream anything relevant to dogs, don't freak out or get depressed. It's just an exercise. You are on the honor system right now, and if you say you dreamed something relevant we'll take you at your word - later on there will be no way to "fake" it.

    Here's something to think about dreaming about tonight:
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Got it.

      Okay, I'm off to bed now.

      See ya tomorrow.

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    Usually sleep 330am - 1130am
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Gotcha LeeLee.

    Bravo - you're +1 hr GMT. Need your sleep times.
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Gotcha LeeLee.

      Bravo - you're +1 hr GMT. Need your sleep times.
      1AM - 6AM.

      On the weekends I usually am up until 4AM and get up around 9AM
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  • Profile picture of the author fin
    Thailand, but I always sleep later in the night.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by fin View Post

      Thailand, but I always sleep later in the night.
      From what you are saying, I am thinking you go to bed around 2am your time? That's what I have recorded just to get the info up onto the link I'm building the experiment on. I can change it.

      I can change anyone's that I have wrong. Will give you the link to sign up and the link to the group page tomorrow by PM to everyone involved.
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      • Profile picture of the author fin
        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        From what you are saying, I am thinking you go to bed around 2am your time? That's what I have recorded just to get the info up onto the link I'm building the experiment on. I can change it.

        I can change anyone's that I have wrong. Will give you the link to sign up and the link to the group page tomorrow by PM to everyone involved.
        I sleep 6am to 10am my time.

        I do have a nap in the afternoon, so I don't just sleep 4 hours per night lol
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Exactly why I didn't break down everyone's sleep time in -/+ GMT. LMAO. Sleep times will be put down in each participant's own time zone. Example Terra sleeps from 11:30pm to 6am, means in her own time. I will list the GMT of each person - in fact, already did that. I'll be handing out some links tomorrow - and if someone wants to work with another person directly without them knowing - they will have their GMT coordianants and their usual sleep time. You guys get to do the calculating. I hate math and the only time I'm gonna calculate when someone might be asleep relative to me - I'll do the math . I like to attempt intrusions, too.

    Jared isn't the only nutcase on this crew.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Jared isn't the only nutcase on this crew.
      My pet squirrel told me to tell you that we agree!


      IMG Deleted as to not disrupt the experiment... let's all PLEASE FOCUS ON MUNCHIE...


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        Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

        My pet squirrel told me to tell you that we agree!


        IMG Deleted as to not disrupt the experiment... let's all PLEASE FOCUS ON MUNCHIE...



        Oh you SOOO know I'm going to mess with your hard, doncha? Getting ready for bed in a few hours? LMAO.
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    Okay - I have just sent all of you the link to get into the group "room". If you did not get your pm, let me know.

    Once you have signed up, I have to activate you so for the next few days, just keep concentrating on the pic of Munchie (dog pic in post #21) before you go to bed (and maybe other times during the day).

    You must tell yourself during the day now and again that you will remember your dream that night. Remembering the dream is the first part of being able to work with your own subconscious mind - dream lucidly, evaluate your dreams, etc. You have to tell your brain that you expect to remember. It actually takes practice just to master this one. If you are drunk or high when you go to sleep, you are very unlikely to remember anything. If you drink a 6 pack or smoke a few fatties some night before bed, just figure that your report for the next day will probably be "no results - intoxicated." Serious.

    Once you are in the door to the group room - read the first page completely. When everyone is in and had a few days to warm up with the dog pic on here, we will start the experiment - I will add pages at that time with further info and instructions.

    Good luck to all of us and let's have a good time with this.
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    Hey everyone - if you are already signed up with TM send me a message and tell me if your user-name is different than in the WF because I have to send you an invite, the link I sent you all won't work. The public can view the group so that's different than actually being INSIDE where you can post comments.

    Art - Bravo, I just added you as friends and sent your invite. We still need a few more of you to get around to getting in the door.
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    Okay - we're waiting on just a few of ya now. Get signed up.

    Jared - at this point you can't "ruin" anything. If someone dreamed of your pet squirrel instead of the dog - that's still a hit at that point eh? I just hope they don't dream about you yet. It's too early for people to have the hang of stopping bogie men in their dreams. :rolleyes:
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    LMAO = unfair advantage. I already know what Jared's going to be dreaming tonight. I wonder if he can fit a dog into a programming nightmare?
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Sal,

      Sorry I missed your call. I don't get home til after 6pm, then it's cooking dinner, clean-up, you know, the drudgery part of life, haha! Do you have my cell number?

      Anyway, back on topic. Are we supposed to report to you regarding our dreams with the pic of Munchie here, at TM, in private or not at all, lol.

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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      OK this is weird! Although I didn't come on board for the experiment, I dreamt a Rottweiler and a very small rodent looking dog with rottweiler colors were chasing me.

      Could it be that the small URD (unidentified rodent dog) was really a squirrel camouflaged as a Rott.
      Did the squirrel/rotti impersonator look anything like this?



      Or was it more like this:



      Or was it this?



      LOL... (can just imagine what peoples dreams may be tonight)
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      • Profile picture of the author art72
        Originally Posted by Jared Alberghini View Post

        Did the squirrel/rotti impersonator look anything like this?



        LOL... (can just imagine what peoples dreams may be tonight)
        This brings upon new meaning to a squirrel storing his nuts!

        Heck... if these are the types of images we are looking for in our dreams, maybe we should call it "The Nightmare Experiment"
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        • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
          Originally Posted by art72 View Post

          This brings upon new meaning to a squirrel storing his nuts!

          Heck... if these are the types of images we are looking for in our dreams, maybe we should call it "The Nightmare Experiment"
          ROFLMAO... sorry, didn't mean to scare anyone with my pet squirrel... he just wanted to tell me how nuts he was about this dream thread...

          Just say "Fluffy Bunnies" three times before you go to sleep and you will have pleasant dreams.

          Fluffy Bunnies...

          Fluffy Bunnies..

          Fluffy Bunnies.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    Is it too late to get in????????

    I would love to participate in this.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith View Post

      Is it too late to get in????????

      I would love to participate in this.
      You're more than welcome in the group Jacqueline. I'll send you a link and instructions via PM.

      EDIT: - Got your invite coming in a minute or two - just got home so catching up here.

      I need your time zone and times you are usually sleeping.

      For all of you that wanted in - get in the door - we will hold up another 24 for ya.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Okay

        Night 1) Dreamt of me riding a horse through many different scenic settings, all with magnificent views. The dog didn't come into my dream until the alarm went off whereas a small dog kept jumping up and biting at my stirrup all the while yapping in rhytm to my alrm's blipping. Haha

        Night 2) I was sitting on the couch jotting down some ideas to write about when my son came home. He was calling, "Mom, Mom. you've got to see this puppy I got you. It's exactly the puppy for you." The puppy was a small breed, black and had a head a little too large for his body, but was adorable none-the-less with big eyes kind of like you'd see on a puppy in cartoons.

        I asked him what breed it was. He told me it was half dachshund and half Betty Boop. I told him he was crazy. Then he reprimanded me saying, Mom, don't you remember that Betty Boop's character started out as a dog?"

        Okay, that was weird, lol!

        Gotta run now, Be back later tonight with last night's results.

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    Okay....decided not to wait for an answer.

    I'm at Jared's house.....username - Jaqs.

    Thanks!
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    For right now, Terra, since the pic is visible for you to see before sleeping, yeah, just tell us what you were dreaming if you remember. This is just an exercise to get people to start remembering their dreams and to try to influence them. Dream recall develops from concentrating on dreaming and what to dream, and what you did dream, so this is important practice to start us up.

    As far as me - yes, I dreamed about a dog - Ricky. Ricky had a vet appointment today, though, so between thinking about Munchie's picture and Ricky's appointment and problem with his leg, it was a cinch that I was gonna dream about dogs one way or the other. It's just like when people think about work or work too many hours the work will end up in their dreams. You dream much about what you concentrate heavily on.

    How's everyone else doing?
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    Terra - that first night dream in really interesting. The dog appears just as you are starting to lose the dream and gain consciousness. It seems your conscious mind was nagging your subconscious mind about it, so you brought the dog in during a half and half state - nipping at your ankles, nagging you "hey, you forgot about me". I know you and I have discussed dreams before and I know you have pretty good recall, so you're a bit ahead of some others here. Let's see if you are as good at receiving signals from people you've never met. LMAO.

    Like I said - the experiment should generate more dream control - the sending messages part is what the actual "experiment" is in the mix of developing the recall. Will it work? How strong can we develop it if it does? The last time a group of us experimented we had a few hits. Interestingly, Jared hit me pretty strong once. What I would like to get enough results to know is if people who have actually talked to each other via phone etc - have actual personally communicated - will hit better than those who are in the group but having no personal connection to the others. Since you and I have actually sat in the same room yacking, maybe we'll connect better than say Art or Jaqs and I?

    Incidentally. I was busy up til the time I fell asleep - other than I've been playing Youtube stand up comedians to fall asleep to lately so I wasn't really concentrating. Last night I don't remember any dogs in my dreams. I do remember Sheldon from the big bang theory but I got sidetracked and lost the rest of the dream. I know Sheldon and I were doing something scientific. Not much, but any memory of a dream is a good start. Not nearly as good as the night before when I actually dreamed about my dog - but I had a LOT of conscious dog impact in real life to help me to that, so it could have been more coincidence than intention.

    People - another thing I need to add to this for you is that - if you hit your target -- try to remember the feeling you had while dreaming. The emotion is a very strong brain coding to bring into the mix.
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    Participants, please proceed to Dream Experiment Page 1 in the group room at TM.

    Those of you who aren't registered and entered into the room yet, please do so if you still are interested in participating. If anyone else wants in, you can join at any time. Just send me a pm.
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    Okay everyone - I'm going to try to get a pm to everyone at TM just in case you aren't reading.
    I'm going to hand off an image to Jared tomorrow to concentrate on. I'm not sure what time I'll be sending it to him, bur I will pm everyone in the group to tell them when the image has been submitted and instructions will be on Page 2 of the group room. Have fun everyone

    If anyone wants in at any time - just pm me here with your info - (sleep time (your time) and either location or your GMT time zone. If you come in late you'll want to read the group pages to update yourself on what it is you are doing and where we're at with it.
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    The first REAL target has been submitted. Go to page 2 in the group room for instructions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Jared Alberghini
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      The first REAL target has been submitted. Go to page 2 in the group room for instructions.
      Got it... thinking about the target image you sent...

      Just to clarify, HeySal & I both have now seen the image, so we both have a target thought in mind, so be thinking about what either of us could be sending out.
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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        Sorry Sal, been a bit busy. I have had some interesting dreams. Sent you a PM.
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        • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
          I sent you a PM of my last night's freaky dream, haha!

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  • Profile picture of the author Jacqueline Smith
    Are we posting our dreams/results in this thread or at Jared's house?
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Jacqueline Smith View Post

      Are we posting our dreams/results in this thread or at Jared's house?
      Send them straight to me via pm - here or there. When I get them all I will post them with the target. I'll have Jared send me the target tomorrow and then we'll start having someone else send the target to either him or I. This is just the way we are starting out - the methods will progress as people get used to the experiment. It might take people awhile to start remembering their dreams at all regularly.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Pm sent with last night's dreams, Sal.

        Hit or miss? We shall see.

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        • Profile picture of the author fin
          After having to add my details numerous times because my username and password were too short, I've been sent a confirmation email and when I click it I can't get in because it comes up with an error.

          I'm stuck lol
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    Seems like you got everything worked out okay Fin.

    Still waiting on Bravo's report then they are all in. I'm going to have to leave in about an hour and will be gone til later tonight so I might just post responses that are in already and just leave the target off until we get that last report in.
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    • Profile picture of the author fin
      How are people thinking of messages to be sent? I'm guessing it's not once they are inside the dream, so is it any time during the day?

      Will there be a group one every day, or is it going to start breaking down into individual ones?
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Just now checked out this thread.
    Years ago I experimented with my dreams.
    In particular, remembering them.
    I would repeat "I will remember my dreams" 3 times as I was falling asleep.
    It worked very well. In fact, it worked too well.
    I had too quit when I reached the point where I started having trouble discerning my dreams from reality.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Just now checked out this thread.
      Years ago I experimented with my dreams.
      In particular, remembering them.
      I would repeat "I will remember my dreams" 3 times as I was falling asleep.
      It worked very well. In fact, it worked too well.
      I had too quit when I reached the point where I started having trouble discerning my dreams from reality.
      Lcombs - not trying to be nosy ..........but would care to elaborate on that?
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  • Profile picture of the author art72
    Not to get off-topic here, as I too was curious to hear Lcombs response, if any.

    I stumbled upon this video, I actually saw this band live at age 14, I always loved this song... hadn't listened to it in ages, never really gave it much thought... yet felt the message coincides greatly with the journey this group is embarking upon.

    Also, I'd like to point out, the lyric is wrong in an important part of this song, and should be "We'll protect you in the night" - not singular as the only two videos I found with lyrics both seem to have missed...

    Anyway, enjoy...

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  • Profile picture of the author SShip
    I absolutely agree with you Art, I would also have to say it coincides. I really enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing it!!
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  • Profile picture of the author LeeLee
    I know the project is temporarily suspended but I had a funny dream last night I wanted to share.

    It seems the Pope had gone bowling and I called the Vatican to get his scores with the intention of writing an article.

    I got a really chatty nun on the phone once she overcame her reserve about giving out info about the Pope. Seems he bowled a 220 and a 250 and a good last game though I don't recall the score.

    They had to get medical clearance for one really old sister to bowl. And she did. Sounded like they had a really great time.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    LeeLee - the group room is still open so you can still post there and chat. There's just nothing "official" going on there. I get messages in my email when someone posts - thought you folks did, too.
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