The PC era is over. Thanks mostly to Windows 8.

11 years ago

Yes I am afraid this may be true, Joe.

I have been unhappy enough with Windows 7 - spare me 8 and so on.

It just seems like they keep coming up with more crap as if new excitement will stimulate sales - (worked the opposite)

... and they have ruined so many of the office programs which are integral - although the OS has even more chance to make your life miserable.

I just can't believe what they have done and Windows 8 sounds like the worst disaster yet.

It's really really a shame - maybe they will wake up and smell the coffee before it is too late. (I never ever believed I would consider MAC) - however, MAC people seem to be happy -

This 'fad' with tablets etc is cool for surfing and all the rage - but people that do real work will still be using desktops and laptops so I don't see why MS is so quick to sabotage us just to get on the latest bandwagon.

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KimW

11 years ago

I've seen people praise 8.

To me it is just junk.

Hard to work with,

Completely non intuitive.

Actually bought a laptop a few months back that had 8 on it. Within hours I was returning it and getting my money back.
Did'nt buy a different one brcause they all had that crappy 8 on them. :rolleyes:

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Bjarne Eldhuset

11 years ago

I've been using windows 7 home premium since it came out, and it has been incredibly stable, even though I've installed and uninstalled a huge amount of programs etc.

I bought a new laptop at the same time, though, so I guess it may also feel more stable than previously because the laptop itself is better.

Side note: I went to "Control Panel\System and Security\System" to check which version I was running, and there is a line there that says "Rating: 4,5 Windows Experience Index".

It seems Windows 7 measures how well suited the computer is set up for windows 7 features.

According to this - Windows Experience Index: An In-Depth Look
- my computer is at level 4 on the Windows Experience Index:

All Windows Vista features will run well with snappy performance. HD playback and recording of one HD stream will work well. 3D games and other high-end 3D applications will run acceptably on Level 4 machines. Multi-tasking will be quite good on these machines (when an application makes use of this capability). Many mid to high level 4 PCs will have dual core CPUs.

I guess the question is: What can you do if your computer shows a low number on this index?

Anyhow, that was a longer sidenote than the rest of my post :-)

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Bjarne Eldhuset

I've been using windows 7 home premium since it came out, and it has been incredibly stable, even though I've installed and uninstalled a huge amount of programs etc.

I bought a new laptop at the same time, though, so I guess it may also feel more stable than previously because the laptop itself is better.

Side note: I went to "Control PanelSystem and SecuritySystem" to check which version I was running, and there is a line there that says "Rating: 4,5 Windows Experience Index".

It seems Windows 7 measures how well suited the computer is set up for windows 7 features.

It DOESN'T!!!!!! LINUX has had the SAME thing for a LONG time!!!!! BogoMips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe M/S is doing it to simply "compete".

ALSO, M/S seems to NEVER update that except when asked or perhaps on boot. ALSO, LINUX tests the CPU! M/S takes the lowest score from like 4-5 categories. So a SLOW graphics card can make it low.

Steve

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Bjarne Eldhuset 11 years ago

I stand corrected
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SteveJohnson

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

It DOESN'T!!!!!! LINUX has had the SAME thing for a LONG time!!!!! BogoMips - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Maybe M/S is doing it to simply "compete".

ALSO, M/S seems to NEVER update that except when asked or perhaps on boot. ALSO, LINUX tests the CPU! M/S takes the lowest score from like 4-5 categories. So a SLOW graphics card can make it low.

Steve

WinSAT runs once a week. If there was a change in hardware from the previous assessment, it reassesses the system and updates the score, otherwise dies.

MS isn't doing it to 'compete'. It's to show you where a performance bottleneck may be occurring, hence the display of the lowest score of the 5 tests it runs. It test CPU, disk, memory, and graphics card performance, and something else that escapes me at the moment.

I'm running Win 7 64bit on this machine and I couldn't be happier. Have had exactly ZERO problems from it, the opposite really.

This last Sunday, I woke to a message on my screen that said my hard drive had crashed. An "OH S&^T" moment, at least from my last experience. Went to BestBuy, bought a new 1TB WesternDigital Black hard drive and a new DVD writer (for $125!!

). Got home, swapped out the drives, stuck in my (thankfully I followed directions when I got the machine) Win 7 Repair DVD, plugged in my backup drive, a 1TB Passport USB portable hard disk ($89!!!

can't believe these prices), and was back up and running 3 hours later.

The 3 hours was the time it took to transfer all the info from the backup drive to the new hard drive. Gave me a chance to read a book I've been meaning to read for a while.

No muss, no fuss, no hassles, no hair-pulling, no reinstalling of OS and applications. Could have been much worse. WAS much worse, in years gone by.

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Amanda786 11 years ago

For me its not easy to work on Windows 8 and after 2 weeks of trying to use I just came back to Windows 7. Its quite easy to work if you have windows 7 rather than 8.
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MikeAmbrosio

11 years ago

I am totally happy with my Win7 64 bit desktop as well. Over a year, zero issues.

I put Win8 on two of our laptops. My wife finally got annoyed trying to find things - specifically missed the Start/Programs menu. So I found a website with tips on how to make Win8 look and behave like Win7 (here's the site I used and there's many more). The OS as a whole I have no issue with. Those laptops actually boot faster than they used to, and there's no problems. The biggest issue I hear from people is the usability - which translates to "Not used to it yet" or "Can't stand change". And I am a bit of both of those

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tagiscom 11 years ago

I think that this critic, is going off the deep end a bit, Windows did Vista, and is still going strong!

I have 7, and overall couldn't be happier, l thankfully got it before the current crap came out!

As the article said, you walk into a computer shop. and start pressing the screen, but nothing happens!

The average person wants to walk in buy one, go home and start enjoying it!

Not, buy one, go home, and spent the next couple of hours in frustration, trying to figure it out, and hearing the wife saying, "see l told you to get an Apple", every time you say, "where is the &8%# programs button"?

Microsoft is so big, it seems they are developing a great OS, then a risky one! A bit like Coke, they can afford to stuff up big, and take bigger risks.

Odds, on the next WOS will be great and the one after that a dud!

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- Saintsfan40 11 years ago
  
  Thank God I made the right decision not upgrading to Windows 8. Never had problems with Windows 7, always been very good to me.
  
  I had Vista before I upgraded to Windows 7. Vista was the worst operating system I've ever used. Absolute nightmare! Always had crash and blue screen problems.
  
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Raydal

11 years ago

I don't think that Windows 8 is to be blamed but that
PCs are not making the kind of jump in hardware
performance that would push people to put aside
the old for the new. The PC I presently use I've
had for 5 years now and it serves my purposes
quite well. I bought a new Windows 8 PC for my
kids and was thinking about giving them my old
computer but changed my mind afterwards.

The difference isn't that big to pay for the hassle
of loading my files unto the new PC.

A couple years ago a new PC meant faster
processor speeds and performance but
now they are basically at their peak.

-Ray Edwards

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Ken Leatherman

11 years ago

I have been following all the "PC Is Dead". Since I hate change, my PC is now 6 or 7 years old and has XP OS.

So when the PC is buried I may have to be buried with it.

Ken

The Old Geezer and Old PC User

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Inglourious Basterd

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

The PC is an integral part of the workplace. It's not going anywhere.

Exactly. Think of all the high rises around the U.S. Imagine all the cubicles that are in a skyscraper. A tablet would be useless for the cubicle set. Ditto for all the banks and hospitals that dot the landscape. Recently I discovered a ridiculous flaw that Windows 8 has. I had an external hard drive hooked up to my laptop. I searched for a file that was on the external hard drive. I typed in the EXACT file name, I knew the exact name of the file because the file was right in front of me. I was simply running a test to see if Windows 8 would show the file while performing a search. Windows 8 did not locate the file!!! Ridiculous, WTF are the engineers at Microsoft thinking?

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williambrown

11 years ago

I also didn't like WIN 8,that's why I stick with WIN 7. I find it more user friendly and perfect for me.

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Patrician

11 years ago

i still have one dt and one lt pc with XP os - it's "friendly "

my main pc is win 7 and i am flying blind - (after over 2 decades of professional and home PC use) --- but the pc has terabytes memory otherwise i would still be using XP!

i just can't imagine if it was even more 'remote' as it sounds like 8 is - (o-well - i always wait at least one version before i switch - so i am always either a year behind in 'the latest, greatest' ver - (shop the sales! wheeee!) -

... and sometimes i got to miss ones like Vista - that's ok - anybody remember Windows ME? lolol. what a joke - it lasted what - a weekend? lol. There went $25 good dollars! lol

i admit i have to 'get with' the new revolution of i-pads and tablets and phones that take pictures and do email (yeh! i am ready to have one and even need one for contingency/disaster recovery. i was the last one on my block to get a microwave! too)

i need both - any desktop/laptop veterans agree? or did you all get an i-pad/tablet or etc years ago?

just for fun or do you do serious work from those little gadgets?

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Greg71 11 years ago

Until 2 weeks ago, I was using xp on an Asus Eepc netbook. As you can see, I only upgrade if I have to.

Apparently support for xp is about to stop, plus my pc was getting ssllloooowwwww....

So I got a desktop with Windows 7 and it seems good. The guy who sold it to me said W8 is too buggy (being new, I guess).

Also, for surfing the net and stuff I can't praise Apple enough for my ipad2. Simply a great device. As a driver, I need something with maps, so I don't have to carry a directory. And it's great for the net cause you don't have to boot it up. Just click the button and it's ready to go.

Hope that helps someone.
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Monika Verma

11 years ago

I like Both ,but I am agree that 7 is more user friendly than 8 .

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Charmia

11 years ago

My office PC runs Xp which I have no problems . Problem is my pc is dying and a new one needed . Confusing which operating system to go for with all the negative feedback on windows 8 .

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Maggie143

11 years ago

I use Windows 7 Home Premium and I actually like it better than I ever liked Vista. I do not have any problems at all with this OS compared to when I was using Vista.

I work on PC's all the time being a analyst. I think it also depends on the brand of PC you have to its stability. If you try to put Windows 7 on a 5 years old computer it is not going to work as well as on a brand new computer.

I do miss XP though I think that was the last actual good OS Microsoft has put out...the rest have not been that good some worse then others.

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garyv

11 years ago

I'd give iPad/iPod more credit for the end of the PC era. Windows 8 is just a failed attempt at What Apple has already done... kind of like the zune. - It's hard for straight up nerds to make something that's both artistic and functional.

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MikeAmbrosio

11 years ago

Originally Posted by garyv

I'd give iPad/iPod more credit for the end of the PC era. Windows 8 is just a failed attempt at What Apple has already done... kind of like the zune. - It's hard for straight up nerds to make something that's both artistic and functional.

Seems Windows followed Apple a lot. I remember when we first got Windows 95 - I read more than once:

"Windows 95 = Apple 85"

(or similar)

Windows always seems to survive and even thrive at times. If Windows ME or Vista didn't kill PCs, Windows 8 won't either.

But I agree - tablets in general (with Ipads leading the way) would be more the reason for the demise of the PC. My wife recently got a Kindle Fire and now barely goes on her laptop.

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ky999

11 years ago

I used xp for several years, then got a vista and flipped out. went back to xp for a couple more years until I was forced into using win7, and I wasn't too offended by win 7 after the vista experience. I havent used 8 yet, and frankly, after three years using windows 7, I'm almost afraid to switch to eight, but I know it will become a reality within the next twelve months. I need an upgraded machine, and that means new software...

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Dennis Gaskill

11 years ago

I took a look at 8 in the store. The salesman said it wouldn't be a very good OS without a touchscreen. I don't sit near close enough to my monitor to touch it, so I'll be sticking with 7.

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garyv

11 years ago

Microsoft should have put the crew that did their XBOX 360 layout in charge of the Windows 8 software. It would have been more intuitive and tablet friendly. And I still think that Microsoft could have something huge in the ipTV arena.

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twister85

11 years ago

Why people dont upgrade to win 8 is because they dont want to change. They dont want to experience new things and graphics.

Win 8 has changed the whole look of os. I agree that is tuff to get it in the starting, but later you'll find it full of surprises, interesting to work and even east than win 7.

When i purchased and installed it, it took me half hour to find out where the shutdown button is. Thanks to google, but now i just cant work without win 8 and win 7 looked strange to me.

Just give it a try for few days you'll be happy to have it.

As the slogan says "everything at once"

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infoway

11 years ago

I tried windows 8 and it was a worst experience for me. For me, windows 7 is far better than 8. I have my old PC which runs XP and it is still working fine.

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sivricmarijan

11 years ago

This is nothing new...it all ended with Office 2007 and Windows 7. Look at the good software programs: IrfanView is the same as always...Wordpress also...Winamp has the same classic skin...i think that's perfect. But what they did with Windows, Office...Oh my God. I am sick of tablets, "smart" phones, cloud computing and all the other "cool" IT stuff. We need normal (working) software products and computers!!!

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