Images of Boston Bombing Suspects

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Here Are the Boston Bombing 'Suspects' -- Photos and Video, but FBI Needs Help

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    • I'm not qualified to know. The FBI ascertained them to be suspects. "Suspect" is not synonymous to "guilty." If those guys are innocent, they better clear their names ASAP.
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    • I'm assuming you're American which means I could be wrong. But if you are, then you know LE fvcks up on occasion (i.e. Rampart Division in L.A./Mark Furhman in the OJ Simpson case/Ruby Ridge/1996 bombing at the summer Olympics in Atlanta, etc, etc.) . And with that I'll say LE would never would have released those pics if they weren't certain those two grenade chuckers were responsible for the Boston Marathon bombing. They had good reasons to release the pics, reasons they were not compelled to share with the public.
  • still investigate, but i hope the suspects immediately arrested
  • When will it end?
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    • There are reports these people had some type of explosives - but that's not been confirmed. They stole a car then shot a cop, then had a gun battle with cops - both are in custody now. Probably not the same guys but sure would be nice, wouldn't it?
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  • I need to move out of this ******* town.

    Haha.

    Kidding.

    PS: wanted to comment on what Mr Glorious Basterd said.

    White cap dude is gonna get caught first. Discussed this earlier with my friends.

    Prominent nose will get him caught. (especially if he's local).

    I wonder why he was so blatant about showing his face though? Seemed very confident about everything. Everyone knows cameras are everywhere now adays. The other guy seemed to cover his face better.
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    • If suspect #2 was trying to conceal himself then he would not have worn his cap backwards. He would have worn it with the bill pulled down low to hide his face. With the cap turned backwards the face is exposed, so it appears that he did not think, or plan, on covering his face as much as possible in an attempt to thwart electronic surveillance. As I type this post out LE is hot on the heals of suspect #2 and it appears that suspect #1 has been caught BUT law enforcement has not confirmed if either suspect is related to the Boston Marathon bombing. Watching it unfold in real time, as I type this out, is a nice little rush. Hope we find out what sort of ideological agenda they were trying to promote in the first place, if they turn out to be the Boston Marathon bombers.
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  • Where's my man Steven Seagal when you need him

    (shit's hitting the fan dude lol)
  • OH SNAP

    IT'S THE MARATHON BOMBERS

    GET EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    • When the pics were first released 5/6/7 hours ago I thought they looked like pussies. Turns out I was wrong. Big gun-battle tonight, then they lobbed grenades at the cops. Suspect #2, at one point, was a hundred yards from the cops sitting in an SUV. He then hit the gas pedal and accelerated in high gear straight towards the cops tearing off the side doors of two police cruisers all while taking gunfire - a resident in the hood reported seeing that happen. If they are the Boston Bombers, I look forward to finding out why they decided to set bombs off at the Boston Marathon.
  • ONE OF THE SUSPECTS IS DEAD! SUSPECT 1 IS DEAD!!
  • can't mess with Boston's finest baby

  • Just because they don't look physically tough, doesn't mean they aren't very determined mentally. So, can't really call them pussies. (hate to compliment them though).

    The white hat dude is on foot now, so he has limited resources.

    Unless he has a crime syndicate we don't know about, I don't think it will be long...

    (I'm also very interested to find out what their motive was.. I'm sure today will be laden with details).
  • I wonder how this all started?

    (it's been a wild night)

    My guess: bombers tried to boobytrap MIT with bombs, MIT officer caught them in the act, officer opened fire. Officer gets shot. Then bombers carjack a car. (crazy shit man)
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  • Here are better pictures and they do look Caucasian to me.

  • So who was the guy stripped naked and arrested an hour ago?
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  • Pundit Press: Naked Man Arrested By Police NOT a Suspect in Boston Bombings

    "A potential suspect taken into custody earlier this evening, who was commanded to strip naked by police, was not involved in the Boston Marathon bombings, according to multiple sources."
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    • This may be a premature statement on my part but I'll say it anyway: As a fugitive on the run suspect #2 is hella good at fleeing from the cops. Or put another way, it appears as if the cops screwed up big-time. LE had suspect #2 cornered. S2 was right under their thumb. Cops and S2 had a massive shootout. Then S2 got in an SUV, turned it around and then drove through two cop cars, tearing the doors off of each police car. At this point in time LE still can't find him, he should have been arrested four hours ago. In the last 3 or 4 hours suspect #2 has turned a part of Massachusetts upside down. And that's the second time he's done that this week.

      Watch it live on CNN/FOX News/MSNBC: http://www.baqiworld.com/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/
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  • Weird. It's the same guy they say 4chan users identified. Really weird!
  • Hope we can catch these guys sooner than later, what a tragedy...
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    • One was shot dead hours ago now. Looking at the news, I don't see how the other ones going to last too long either.
  • Here is a profile of the suspects

    A Look at the Brothers - WSJ.com
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    • Here is a poem written by, well anonymous.
      It speaks my sentiments exactly!

      I have a pen, it is in my hand
      With this pen I make my stand
      I write of a city tried and true
      Yes dear Boston, I write of you
      In the darkness a sparkling light
      Among the first to stand and fight
      A precious stone in Liberty's crown
      Freedom fighters still thrive in Boston town
      No stranger to innocent blood on cold hard stone
      It all started here, so let it be known
      We do not bow to terror, no not at all
      When freedom is at stake we neither stumble nor fall
      When tragedy occurs within our gate
      We are not consumed by anger or hate
      But be sure retribution is in our hand
      It spreads from here throughout our land
      "Boston Massacre" this headline is not our first
      It strengthens our resolve, fuels our thirst
      A long age ago it was written about by a man named Revere
      So remember terrorists, it is us that you must fear!

      Author "Anonymous Patriot"


      Terra
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  • If suspected catched by them , they should be punished seriously.
    So that others wont to these type of things again.
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  • They still haven't found suspect #2?

    I might call a few of my drinking buddies to have an oldschool roundup.
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    • Harry Houdini reincarnated: Tsarnaev is flat on his back lying dead in an abandoned warehouse with a bullet in his head or he's the Master of Escape. Cops might be looking in the wrong place. He might have stolen another car. He could be in New York by now.
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  • I just don't understand the attitude of assuming what the government and mass media report is the absolute truth.

    To me, the real point here is the headline, Boston on Lockdown, with pictures of tanks and armed soldiers occupying an American city --to supposedly find one man. This is something that we are supposed to get accustomed to. Maybe they'll have to declare martial law just to prevent future acts of terrorism.

    Boston Marathon bomber manhunt: City on lockdown as authorities hunt for bomb suspect
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    • For the same reason they robbed the guy whose car they stole - they didn't plan well for their attack. Had they had funds they could have been out of the country before they were found on the videos.

      Now they've got an Aunt on TV from Canada challenging the FBI to "give me evidence" - sorry, lady, too busy right now to bother with you. She's now claiming the "pictures were staged". Here we go on the "what they aren't telling you" crap.
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  • one down and one to go - a few more killed in the process

    1 Boston bombing suspect dead; massive manhunt for 2nd, the "white hat" suspect - CBS News
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    • So the news is lying to us again. One suspect turns out NOT even to be a suspect - they strip him naked and he is killed.........yet the media is claiming that these guys were throwing bombs at them?
      What kind of crapola are they feeding us? Non-suspects just run around with bombs, too?

      Okay - note - there was a Military DRILL on bomb response going on right there at the time and there are videos of the cops telling people to "stay calm, this is just a drill". There are people all over who were there that caught that on film and are saying so.

      This whole thing just stinks. Why is it that every time there is an "OFFICIAL drill" in an area, there's terrorism? Confirmed drills in town at: Colorado theater, 9/11, Sandy, Bostom Marathon.

      Yep - and people are swallowing it hook, line, an sinker. I guess nobody read the book about Operation Northwoods. Trying to find a few of those zoom pics of the crowd - those black hats are everywhere and if you zoom in some say Craft, and some have Blackwater logos on them. The guys are in black jackets and tan pants and are all over the place. If people don't know who Craft and Blackwater are, they really should catch up a little bit.
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  • On the news, they claim these guys "THREW" the devices. That is VERY unlikely! WHY?

    1. They would want to *********REALLY********* throw them! That means a CLEAR path, and not a simple toss. not only unlikely, but OBVIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!
    2. That means loss of control! Which means they would be more likely to hit people on the other side of the street rather than runners, etc.... ALSO, it could hit other areas. Such devices are made mostly to MAIM!

    Ever see someone throw a grenade? Incidentally, many grenades work similar to what they used. But when people throw them, it is OBVIOUS!

    In short, I side with the OLD idea of DELAYED explosion.

    Steve
  • Boston Bombing Victim — Man Who Lost Legs Saw Bomber’s Face - Hollywood Life

    They got the actual perpetrators of that brutal mass-murdering terrorism, this time. I only hope that the other suspect lives long enough to reveal information on whether others were involved, then suffer horribly before he is exterminated.
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  • Holy Hell -- we're supposed to get REAL news from a Hollywood rag now? Just because THEY reported it, it's good reason for me to look elsewhere for the real story underlying the news.
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  • Kay - if you look at the videos you will see blackwater all OVER the place and when the first reports came out - there were all sorts of eye witnesses, some with video where you could hear the "cops" saying it's just a drill. Can't find em now? I favorited a few and can't find them now.

    I'm tired of people knocking Jones -- he sensationalizes EVERYTHING -- but he has an amazing track record for being right in the long run.

    Now - whatever the situation was with two private military organizations being heavily dispersed in the crowd, if you watch the films of where the first bomb exploded, you will see there were guards all over that area the whole freaking time...............whoever planted that bomb planted it RIGHT UNDER their noses and I don't care if you are examining the issue from the official story or from a conspiracy view, that's a very interesting fact that someone can plant bombs right under securities noses and they see nothing -- especially with Blackwater and Craft agents all over the place.

    Make of that what you will. That's not theory. That is fact -- and all you have to do is look at the videos to see them in their usual "uniform" dispersed through the crowd. It may or may not be "conspiracy" that there was a drill going on, but they were sure out in force............and it didn't stop one damned thing. So when you are calling people "nutcases" for not accepting the "official story" -- consider that these nuts listened to the first witnesses before the "official story" drowned them out -- and consider that maybe most people don't recognize Blackwater and Craft field uniforms. Maybe what people are calling "conspiracy nut cases" is just the usual way things go with people swallowing everything they are told as it is told to them and not wondering about anything that a corporate media says. If there were no drills going on = why was security so high and why the hell were they able to plant bombs right under security personelle's noses? That is a problem that needs examining. Why have security en force if they aren't better at it then that? Looking for kids smoking pot or what? And now we have a town on military lockdown. Kewl. Just freaking kewl.
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  • Alex was right -- they ARE Blackwater uniforms. I've SEEN those uniforms before. SO what's your point? I didn't hear the FBI say ANYTHING -- I've heard MSM reporting who is saying what. When MSM tells me something - I go look for what they are distracting my attention from. Did ya know they voted on CISPA while everyone was watching MSM's incessant droll on this event? Guess whatever extra time MSM has on air they are reporting on Snooky or something instead.


    I'm still wondering how we can have a crowd filled with security - and many actually wearing vests standing right next to where the bomb was planted the whole damn time and not even noticing.
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  • Some good cartoons on the media coverage of the incident:

    Cartoons of the Day- Boston Marathon Bombing Media Fail - The Political Carnival
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  • What I don't understand is why people can throw up a huge fuss over being patted down at the airport, and then be ok with having the entire city on lock down to search for one person. I see a lot of illegal seizure and unwarranted searches going on.

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    • A very valid point.

      On the other side of the coin, a known terrorist is "at large" in a neighbourhood. By the time all the legal niceties are obtained, he could either A) have committed more atrocities, or B) be long gone.

      It's a fine line between respecting the rights you mentioned and preventing either of the events I mentioned.

      BTW, I don't have an answer to which is the best/correct path to take.
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  • Extremist Boston mass-murderer may be surrounded
    Suspect 'surrounded' in boat behind home near Boston, sources tell Fox News | Fox News
    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/20..._at_large.html

    (Blackwater/Xe/Academi obviously failed miserably to protect civilians during Boston Marathon. They've always been incompetent. Don't waste more tax-money on them)
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  • I saw people in the neighborhood interviewed and they said there was no forced entry. They asked if they could come in and nobody refused. Who would and why? I'd sure as hell want my house searched to see if some terrorist was hiding out.
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    • I would.
      My house would already be cleared and secured by me.
      I do not rely on anyone else for my familys safety.
      I would assure them no worries here.
      Let them talk to everyone in the house, on the front porch.
      Offer them a cold water, Thank them for their service,wish them luck and safety.
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    • WOW! I'm surprised a TEXAN would say that! If you invte them in, they are legally allowed to search EVERY BLASTED DRAWER if they see something THEY consider suspicious! Maybe people felt they COULDN'T refuse!

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  • According to reports, suspect has been captured.

    EDIT: CONFIRMED

    -Chris
  • Yes, they got him alive.

    :-Don
  • Confirmed ,suspect in custody
  • always looks like this.... hat, bag, jacket, walking lonely....
  • FBI interviewed dead Boston bombing suspect years ago - CBS News

    "The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev, the elder brother of at-large bombing suspect Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, at the request of a foreign government to see if he had any extremist ties, but failed to find any linkage."
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  • It was fun TV and all, but in Texas this would have been over several days ago. One Smith&Wesson could have saved Boston and the country millions of dollars.
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    • How's that? You think people don't have guns in Boston? Guns can stop bombs?
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  • I feel the same as Rob and Thom. Nobody is going to be hiding in my home, so nobody is going to waste my time and theirs searching it. Someone wants to worry about someone breaking into my house - they can just stand outside and wait til I throw the body out the front door.

    I have a problem with military on our streets. I have a problem with towns on lockdown. Are we at war?

    You and I have no way of knowing for sure which of the events going on are false flag - and don't say that I'm crazy to think that. We have plenty of people at the top willing to conduct false flag operations. Kennedy is the only Pres I know of that said flat out "NO" and actually let people know he had been approached (and he was killed).

    I'm more uncomfortable with the reactions to incidents that are taking place, all to frequently lately, than I am with the incidents themselves. They don't make me feel one damned bit safer. Not at all. Especially since you are around 8 times more likely to be killed by a cop than a terrorist.
  • I recorded the last hour of the police radios and its nothing like is reported on the news.
  • I don't get the exact correlation of the fact that Blackwater people were present at the Marathon -

    I get that they are doing a lousy job of security obviously (but I know it is like a needle in a haystack) - doing the best they can presumably.

    ... but what does not follow (to me) is why does their presence there indicate that the 'suspects' were 'framed' or that somehow we have a conspiracy behind the conspiracy (to bomb)?

    Are you saying Blackwater set off the bombs and then ala lee harvey oswald, those 'boys' (demons) are scapegoats?

    (I am more than open-minded when it comes to distrust of 'the man' - be it legislatively or media 'spin' -) I know we cannot be sure what we hear is true which ever side of the aisle we are on. Even what we (think) we 'see' is suspect in this day and age.

    So there is no reason to be snarky when someone happens to disagree with your point of view - 'they are right from their side, and you are right from yours'

    Somewhere in the middle might be something close to the truth.
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  • Yeah, I saw a supposed retired lieutenant colonel talk about like 9 aspects of this and why it was done as a false flag. Some related and direct are:
    GOLD FIXING.... FACT and ADMITTED if you understand te lingo, etc....
    SETUP.... FACT! ADMITTED TO!
    TRIAL OF SETUP.... The guy claimed this was changed at the last minute. I doubt he would make that up, since it could be easily disproved!
    DRILL..... AGAIN, easily disproved if a lie.
    MONEY FIXING.... FACT and ADMITTED if you understand te lingo, etc....
    INFIGHTING .... GIVEN! Technically, they are OPENLY doing this EVEN after it FAILED!
    DISTRACTION.... Interestingly, ALWAYS seems to be the case!

    Why don't we go after the PROVEN FACTS that have been well established for THOUSANDS of years that would have prevented THIS, 9/11/2001 and so many other problems, and would make the US a safer and more peaceful place? Why can I not even speak in less vague terms about that in a forum(pun not intended) such as this? Why must we be forced to try to divine secondary and tertiary measures to try to prevent problems forced by ignoring the PRIMARY cause?

    Ignoring the primary cause means you must always deal with the consequences. HERE, it is DEATH, INJURY, MAIMING, and *******WORSE********! We haven't seen the worst part yet. SO FAR it has only affected a couple hundred. The worst part will affect a couple hundred MILLION!

    And that family guy episode? Seth MacFarlane is talking like he had NO part of this. He had a show broadcast ALL OVER, and made fun of this BEFORE the fact! He ALSO poked fun at muslim terrorists, doing the same thing. GIVE ME A BREAK! IGNORE IT! Say you were sorry or that it was done as a joke. Do NOT try to seem totally blameless. They even pulled the episode, and try to claim it didn't exist, or was pieced together! The false flag people are saying this was an INTENTIONAL WARNING/MESSAGE.

    BTW PETER won the boston marathon by driving his car through the race, admitting that he just ran over people in his way, and the film shows severed limbs. LATER, he calls up his muslim friend on a phone the muslim gave him, and a bomb blast with screams follows each attempt to call.

    Steve
  • Well tim, It would help if the government didn't lie so much, etc...

    As for THIS example? The two pictures, as shown on the display in your message, are different profiles. The guy is similar, but *******MANY******* are so similar. Personally I would like to have a decent full view of like 2-3 parts, or a GREAT view of a major part, to identify these guys. ALL you can tell is these two guys are similar.

    Is the hairline right? CLOSE, but who knows? I suspect the guy on the right might have less recession.
    Is the NOSE the same? CLOSE, but who knows? I suspect the guy on the right has a broader and more downturned nose.
    BEARD? CLOSE. Who knows?
    EYES? WHO KNOWS?
    Ear? I THINK the top of the ear on the right turns outward more, but WHO KNOWS?
    I THINK the cheeks on the guy on the left are more prominent, but WHO KNOWS?

    I could see how someone says they MIGHT be the same guy.

    BTW, claiming this is ALSO a slight on the veteran!

    Steve
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    • Are you saying you think these could be crisis actors Steve?

  • Actually, *I* said I think they might be different. I wouldn't try to compare these two pictures.

    Steve
  • I suppose that a loose terrorist is justification for removing innocent people from their homes at gunpoint now? WAKE UP.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=2LrbsUVSVl8
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    • Okay, that right there is some scary looking crap!

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  • Here's one of those "willing" participants of this search and seizure... You be the judge if this was carried out legally or not. I'm betting not. But the fact that they caught the guy will justify it...

    LiveLeak.com - Family ripped from their home at gunpoint; Police storm the property looking for terrorists
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    • There is no way to justify this. None. Not without declaring that the US has been taken over by hostile forces. We should ALL renounce our citizenship connections to Corporate US and quit funding it and demand having our Constitution reinstated.

      This is fascism. Pure and simple. It makes "freedom" a complete lie and just another meaningless slogan.
  • You too Tim - I wish it were good weather here, and I wish I was eating sushi. But have an awesome day and enjoy the weather.
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    • Those are certainly legitimate concerns, having been to places under harsh martial rule, but the Boston police didn't bomb anybody and blast the limbs off innocent civilians, leaving many permanently disfigured, others suffering post traumatic disorder that isn't necessarily so visible.
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  • Gary - here's something you have to understand about California:

    Californians sign petition to inject children with mercury, implement Orwellian police state modeled after Nazi Germany

    This is one of the main reasons many people are high-tailing out of that state as fast as they can.
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    • Disturbing. What line did Mark Dice give people to get them to agree to sign a petition like that? I initially figured it was for vaccinations which do often contain thimerosal (mercury) that gets delivered straight to the blood stream in doses much higher than would be attained from even the most heavily mercury-laden food sources. Is there really such a difference in mentality between Californians and inhabitants of other states or is Mark Dice just masterful in conning people?

      one of my brothers is a big conspiracy theorist (vaguely famous/notorious) about the Illuminati, but I think it is a load of BS myself.

      EDIT: LOL, found this: http://markdice.com/index.php?option...d=129:benjamin
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    • Whatever it takes to get people to leave.
  • Dice is known for a lot of things -- but that doesn't make the general public any less drooling stupid.

    And some people are so slip programmed they will never get the drift that Alex Jones, throughout his career, has proved right more often than wrong. His worst fault is sensationalizing everything that comes over his desk. You want to crawl down someone's throat for sheer trash - go dis on WND.
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  • There's no denying that the guy pushes conspiracies and fear for money. It happens on both sides. I'm sure he'd be happy to make the same amount of money Al Gore or Michael Moore make pushing fear. But to be fair - 45 failed predictions from over 5,000 broadcasts can hardly be considered mostly wrong. I listened to the video and over a dozen of those repeated the same prediction. That percentage of failed predictions makes him less wrong than most politicians during an election cycle.

    And to be honest, all news outlets seem to be converting to a fear for money modus operandi. Every news outlet out there has the feel of a British tabloid. Alex Jones just happens to be one of the sleazier ones.
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    • The same predictions really. Over and over and they never happen. 5000 broadcasts and the same predictions every show. How is that a good percentage? How can that NOT be considered mostly wrong? When has he been right about any prediction?
    • Simple. Just post the predictions of Alex Jones that came true and we can judge by the facts how accurate he is. Gore and Moore have NOTHING to do with it, but nice red herring.

      Plus, I don't recall many politiians falsely accusing others of mass murder. Can you refresh my memory?
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  • I think the guys that are pointing at the failed predictions, and basing the entire value of Alex Jones upon that...are sorely missing the big picture.

    By and Large, what his researchers do a good job of is simply pointing out things that are going on, that no one is paying attention too, or isn't being presented in the media.

    Such and such just passed a new law that says this...or..
    such and such had a meeting with so and so, isn't that a pretty big conflict of interest.

    and a lot of these things that are pointed out really make me go...Hmmm.

    A. Jones just tends to head right for the worst scenario of a piece of information...assumes the worst from the get go.

    You have to look past his...excitement...Like...One TSA Agent fondles a little girl...and from that point on he refers to all TSA as Pedophiles.

    I get it...he's a sensationalist...to his detriment...which clearly he doesn't get...but I can see past that and still look at the presented information and say...hmm you know...why are they doing that, it doesn't seem right....or why is so and so trying to have secret meetings with so and so.

    In that light, when I have gone to check out things deeper, I have found very few instances where I don't find corroborating material that shows what his researchers are talking about really did, or is happening.

    The fact is....Most Americans aren't paying attention to anything government officials are doing on a daily basis....and the government knows it.

    There ARE Whistleblowers out there speaking up about a conversation they had with somebody...or research they were involved in, or threats they received...

    ...But none of it is getting seen by the populace...and why? ...because the mainstream media is controlled by the same powers that control the government.

    ...and what I find really funny...is there are people who still think those powers don't really exist. They still think that the people running the Government are benevolent.

    Let me point out something very simple and powerful that may not have occurred to many of you.. If from the time you were say 8 years old...someone came and said.."Ok you have the power to make as much money as you want out of thin air forever and ever"...what is the inevitable result of that? ....that you would one day, eventually own every thing right? or maybe your children or their children. I mean it simply cannot be avoided. Can you imagine the immense power that would give you? both directly and indirectly...if some varying measure of your influence was in nearly everything that touched human lives on a daily basis?

    Now you say, well ok but that's like a fairy tale situation...well surprise, guess what... it really happened to somebody.

    Thus enters an organization called the Federal Reserve, which is privately owned and operated by a dozen or so families, and has been for 100 years. The members of those families have for 100 years had the ability to buy up everything within their reach.

    So my challenge to the conspiracy naysayers is....before you form an opinion based on sound bites...spend some serious reading time on his site...see some of the things being brought to our attention....do your due diligence. Then form an opinion about his effort.

    Spend some time watching the congressional sessions on CNN

    Spend some time researching the personal/business histories of some of the men and women that are in power.

    Spend some time learning about the history of the Federal Reserve.

    Spend some time learning about how certain things came to be created or made legal...for starters....Aspartame, the history of cancer research, and the AMA, Gulf of Tonkin, what the recent, and only Fed Audit revealed, history of presidential executive orders

    ...and UNTIL you've done at least all of that and More....it's, to be fair, not possible for you to have an opinion worth considering in conversations about conspiracy theories, but that's just how I see it :/ I might be the guy in the wrong, but knowing what I know about different things in different industries...I'm always drawn to the same conclusion...things are being manipulated...and not to the peoples benefit.


    ...for me...the thing that initially set me down the road to government distrust, is in my teens my parents were grossly sabotaged in a national TV interview. Manipulative editing. ...in later years I started getting into learning theories. I discovered that there are some amazing techniques for absorbing information so much faster than we normally do. Techniques for calculating even massive math problems in split seconds. All of what I was seeing was duplicatable by anyone, any age, and consistently....but then I ran into the residue of concerted efforts to keep these things out of our school curriculums. There is simply no other explanation other than...somebody somewhere doesn't want us to have these abilities....because what we are left with today has us running at MAYBE 1/10th of what's possible, and why would our government, choose that route instead of the obviously superior methods...I can only conclude that its on purpose.

    I'll leave you with this.....Power corrupts...but absolute power, corrupts absolutely.
    and unfortunately The thirst for power is never quenched.

    It is because of those inherent human truths, that any conspiracy is plausible.
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    • Doran tomorrow marks the 43 anniversary of the Kent State shootings. I was 17 at the time and it was all over the news, as where the majority of the large war protests. You also saw the destruction and carnage of the Viet Nam war on the news.
      There was national outrage.
      Today we have unmanned drones killing people and children whos only crimes are being in the same area as a "suspected" terrorist.
      Never mentioned on the news and no public outcry.
      I'm not a fan of Jones, but he does report on things that main stream news either doesn't have the balls (anymore) to report or their told not to report it, which brings it back to my first suggestion.
      Sadly most Americans now a days live in a bubble and anything they hear that may burst that bubble scares them and therefore can't be true.
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    • Okie dokie. In other words you are a big time conspiracy theorist. Your take on the fed is a good example.

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  • Tim,

    I would rather look at history, experience, and historical news, then listen to some PUFF PIECE!

    The FACT is that "the FED" is EVERY BIT a private agency! It is NOT government! It merely acts like it. Part of that is letting "representatives" have inside information. That IS about all it is.

    They have a tightrope, and strive to increase profit while not going so far as to cause a total collapse. I WATCHED when greenspan testified about raising rates in 1999 to stop the markets. He claimed it was TOO exuberant, and should come down.

    And statements like:

    OK, WHAT are they drinking? Do they think the interest comes from NOWHERE!?!?!?!?

    Bonds are issued to make money. *****NOBODY***** will buy the bonds, so they PAY interest! In other words, if they need $5000, they issue a $5000 bond. WHO would buy it!?!?!?!? NOBODY! So they say OK, for 30 years, I will pay you $16.66/month! Would you buy? OK, after 30 years, you get the $5000 back! Would you buy NOW? I guess NOT! OK, 100% TAX FREE! And THAT is how a 10% tax free bond works. A ZERO COUPON bond works the SAME way, but you get NOTHING until it matures, and then get all the interest. A US savings bond is a zero coupon bond. You get NOTHING, and in 10 years it is worth twice what you paid.

    If the government buys a government bond for their benefit, they should get NOTHING! If they DID get ANYTHING, it comes from the treasury, which means INFLATION!

    BTW on my last job I actually helped banks with bonds and even worked for a time in a bond cage.

    BTW MCDONALDS issues bonds, like MANY corporations do! They once had bonds in australia that paid like 14%! *****WHY*****? WHY ISSUE bonds to people, MAKING THEM CREDITORS, if you can simply BUY them and get money? ****WHY****? And WHY even bother PRINTING bonds? And they have to be REGISTERED! In the US, they must have a cusip number:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUSIP And there are regulations! WHY do all that? Because it works as I said! They AREN'T magic! The SELLER PAYS money to get the buyer to buy. If the SELLER buys the bonds, it is a WASH!

    THAT makes it clear the FED and government are different.

    Steve
  • Bauman, lost both legs in the bombing but was instrumental in identifying the suspects, carried the Boston Strong flag out onto the ice at a recent Bruins playoff game to a roaring crowd.



    Daily Kos: Tea Party Legislator Suggests Man Who Lost Both Legs in Boston Bombings Wasn't Really Injured
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    • Well, that IS odd! GRANTED, I could stand pain people were astounded at. Once, I had about 24si of flesh burned severely on a forearm, and I didn't even notice it at first. It was from a freak accident with a soldering gun. The carpet was severely burned, the gun melted as was useless after that, and my forearm had a huge triangular welt for a while. So I certainly can't claim that his lack of apparent pain is proof that he wasn't injured. It IS odd though.

      And people HAVE done a GREAT job at hiding things, etc.... So WHO KNOWS?

      If I said these are HAPPILY used to spread an agenda that some have tried for thousands of years, and that it is a worldwide conspiracy, you might poke fun at me. Sorry, it is FACT! They have had international meetings about this and the US is supposedly one of the last major ones to start dropping.

      So with THAT conspiracy, that sounds ludicrous, who knows how far it goes. And REMEMBER OCCAM's RAZOR! MY conspiracy theory is easily proved with a simple look at the UN, NEWS, MEDIA, history, etc... To disprove it would be INCREDIBLY hard! ICSSMM!

      HECK, I heard one crazy theory a guy had. I got a kick out of it also. THEN I found he was right and many that spoke against him were in on it. Too bad that his worst fears seem to be happening.

      Steve

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