The 2013-2014 Official NFL Thread

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Who Do You Think Will Be On The Improve and on the downslide this year. My Patriots look to be in trouble-the Wes Welker trade made me sick. In your opinion who looks to be tough this season.
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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    I like the Wes Welker deal. I did not like the Peyton deal at first because of his neck injury, but the season changed my mind. I think the Broncos have a chance as long as the weather does not get to Peyton's grip - if that theory is true.

    I would never be one to underestimate Brady, or Belichick's ability to optimize his team.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    It's time to get this thread going...Tonight my Broncos play Tim's 9ers in what could possibly be a Super Bowl preview.

    My top 3 teams are:

    Denver
    SF
    Seattle

    Each of these 3 teams added a quality WR. Denver got Welker, 9ers got Boldin and Seattle got Percy Harvin. Percy Harvin going down is a huge loss for Seattle.

    The Broncos and 49ers have both been slammed with injuries. And our best D player, Von Miller, could be suspended for the first 4 games. Rumors are, it's related to missing a required drug test for MJ and Miller missed the test because he was in Afghanistan visiting with US military troops. We'll see in about a week if the 4 game suspension holds up.

    Atlanta is another team to look out for...but still not 100% convinced.

    For me, the two mystery teams are NE and Baltimore. NE right now is without their top 5 receivers from last year. But Danny Amendola is a quality WR and could actually be an improvement over Wes Welker, if Amandola can stay healthy. Despite all their losses in pass catchers, it's still hard to bet against Tom Brady and NE will probably look to run the ball more this year.

    Baltimore lost a bunch of players. But, they also added some really good players, so I'm not sure how to rank them. I do think missing Boldin and TE Pitta (out with an injury) will really hurt their O.

    Also, watch out for Cincinnati. They should be pretty good and no one is giving them the respect I think they deserve.

    As usual, the NFC East will be over-rated.

    The NFC West will be very competitive, with both Arizona and STL improving in the off-season.

    KC will take a step forward and win more than 2 games, like they did last year. But predictions for a major leap and contending with Denver is really reaching.

    The Texans will again be tough. Indy will be about the same as last year.

    The Steelers will take a step back, as will Jim's Chargers and the Giants.

    Thom and Rob's Bucs will need Freeman to step up. It's a career year for Freeman. If he doesn't step up, his time may be over.

    It will be interesting to see what the D's have come up with to counter the option QBs such as Kaepernick, Wilson and RG3.

    And...If we can get over the injury bug, I predict my Broncos to win it all.
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Thom and Rob's Bucs will need Freeman to step up. It's a career year for Freeman. If he doesn't step up, his time may be over.
      Freeman didn't play all that bad last year, but he does need to step it up if he wants to be a Buc next year. He's in the last year of his rookie contract and has been told the team won't negotiate a new one till after this season. I think drafting Mike Glennon sent Freeman a message he didn't want
      Our biggest problem last year was a secondary that always played more for the other team they they did ours Our rush defense was number 1, our pass defense was an embarrassment
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      It's time to get this thread going...Tonight my Broncos play Tim's 9ers in what could possibly be a Super Bowl preview.

      My top 3 teams are:

      Denver
      SF
      Seattle

      Each of these 3 teams added a quality WR. Denver got Welker, 9ers got Boldin and Seattle got Percy Harvin. Percy Harvin going down is a huge loss for Seattle.

      The Broncos and 49ers have both been slammed with injuries. And our best D player, Von Miller, could be suspended for the first 4 games. Rumors are, it's related to missing a required drug test for MJ and Miller missed the test because he was in Afghanistan visiting with US military troops. We'll see in about a week if the 4 game suspension holds up.

      Atlanta is another team to look out for...but still not 100% convinced.

      For me, the two mystery teams are NE and Baltimore. NE right now is without their top 5 receivers from last year. But Danny Amendola is a quality WR and could actually be an improvement over Wes Welker, if Amandola can stay healthy. Despite all their losses in pass catchers, it's still hard to bet against Tom Brady and NE will probably look to run the ball more this year.

      Baltimore lost a bunch of players. But, they also added some really good players, so I'm not sure how to rank them. I do think missing Boldin and TE Pitta (out with an injury) will really hurt their O.

      Also, watch out for Cincinnati. They should be pretty good and no one is giving them the respect I think they deserve.

      As usual, the NFC East will be over-rated.

      The NFC West will be very competitive, with both Arizona and STL improving in the off-season.

      KC will take a step forward and win more than 2 games, like they did last year. But predictions for a major leap and contending with Denver is really reaching.

      The Texans will again be tough. Indy will be about the same as last year.

      The Steelers will take a step back, as will Jim's Chargers and the Giants.

      Thom and Rob's Bucs will need Freeman to step up. It's a career year for Freeman. If he doesn't step up, his time may be over.

      It will be interesting to see what the D's have come up with to counter the option QBs such as Kaepernick, Wilson and RG3.

      And...If we can get over the injury bug, I predict my Broncos to win it all.
      Your peeps are looking good Kurt.

      Lucky for you the Orioles owner Peter Angelos didn't want to reschedule their game so that the Ravens could play at home.

      I'm not sure it would have made any difference last night as Mr. Manning was on fire.

      I don't see the Ravens repeating so I'll have to think about who the new champion will be.

      Flaco threw the ball 63 times last night.

      What about the Colts? That's it!

      I see the Colts taking care of the Broncos in a playoff game.

      How's that for a game of horse?

      Have fun football fans!

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  • Profile picture of the author Nate Simms
    The dark horse this season will be St. Louis.

    Tavon Austin and Stedman Bailey lining up as receivers? Austin is going to give defensive coordinators seizures. If Sam Bradford can build a healthy 'relationship' with his two rookie receivers, the Rams may win a lot of games by simply outscoring the opposing team (defense be damned!).
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Well, that could have been a preview of the Super Bowl, Kurt. I'm thinking if it is, the SB will be more exciting than this one. Kaepernick looked sharp and Tolzien looked pretty good.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Well, that could have been a preview of the Super Bowl, Kurt. I'm thinking if it is, the SB will be more exciting than this one. Kaepernick looked sharp and Tolzien looked pretty good for a rookie.
        I'm picking Denver over SF for the Super Bowl.

        The bad thing is, both teams are really hurting from injuries. We've lost 4 OL starters and can't afford to get any more OL hurt. It's really hurt our OL depth.

        But what an offensive shoot out, huh? LOL
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Well, that could have been a preview of the Super Bowl, Kurt. I'm thinking if it is, the SB will be more exciting than this one. Kaepernick looked sharp and Tolzien looked pretty good.
        Are you talking about QB Scott Tolzien? If so, he's on the Packers practice squad now.

        The Packers have some key injuries too. The one that has my most concerned is the left tackle is lost for the season and they are starting a rookie there. He has look pretty good in preseason, but of course everyone is playing vanilla defense in the preseason.

        Anxious to see how Eddie Lacy does.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    The Giants look BAD! Wow the injuries are mounting up already, who is Eli gonna throw to? The NFC east is tough to begin with. Not a Romo guy here-can't believe they gave him a raise and he's just so so. The preseason is now here and can't wait to see em play!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Here we are Rob.

    Last time we played Balt it was 13 degrees. It's over 90 this time. What a difference a few months make.
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    • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Here we are Rob.

      Last time we played Balt it was 13 degrees. It's over 90 this time. What a difference a few months make.
      ...yes the last time we played Baltimore..was the day I came to officially hate John Fox.

      30 seconds left in the game....you have two time outs...(that translates to 5 or 6 plays)...you have one of the best QB's in the history of humankind....you only need to go 60 yards...

      What do you do?

      ...well if your Mr. Fox you have your QB take a knee.

      ...and...to quote his postgame conference.. "I would do it 10 out of 10 times"

      Fox is lucky I'm not his boss because he would have been fired within an hour of that press conference.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        Holy sh&t! 7 TD passes! Amazing. Manning is just getting better.
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        • Profile picture of the author Kurt
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Holy sh&t! 7 TD passes! Amazing. Manning is just getting better.
          We have some serious offensive weapons.

          Julius Thomas is an interesting story and a player that people should watch out for...

          He was a 4 year lettterman in basketball and only played one year of football in college. The year we draft him was the strike/lockout, so he didn't have a training camp that year.

          Then, on his very first catch in his very first game, he badly hurts his ankle and misses the rest of his rookie season. Ankle doesn't heal correctly and needs another surgery, so he misses his second training camp, as well as all of last season (his second).

          If anyone needed training camp or two, it's a guy with only one season of college football. But, when he's had a chance, he's been spectacular and is a special athlete.

          And congrats to the Heckle and Jeckles to holding Payton to only 7 TDs.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


            Julius Thomas is an interesting story and a player that people should watch out for...
            After his 2nd touchdown catch I traded one of my other fantasy players out for him. Surprisingly no one had taken him yet. I have a feeling that he made a great impression on Peyton, and will be one of the go to guys.

            By the way, this is him playing basketball - nice fro...

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        • Profile picture of the author Brandon Tanner
          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          Holy sh&t! 7 TD passes! Amazing. Manning is just getting better.
          Not only that, but according to Bleacher Report, he is just the second NFL player EVER to throw for 7 TD's in a game without a single interception. That's just crazy.
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          • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
            Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

            Holy sh&t! 7 TD passes! Amazing. Manning is just getting better.
            Indeed. His command is awe inspiring.
            He dissected the weakest parts of the D, and used his weapons to the max

            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            We have some serious offensive weapons.

            Julius Thomas is an interesting story and a player that people should watch out for...
            That guy is a BEAST! It helps to have one of the best Coaches in football throwing the ball to you as well...

            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post


            Did you see who Ron Jaworski picked for the Superbowl? Packers over Denver.
            Jeez, Mr G. Using Jaws as a credible source? Pee-ewe.
            There is hope for the cheeseheads, and all the pontificators seem to forget about the Lil'Ol' NFC South
            Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

            Your peeps are looking good Kurt.

            Lucky for you the Orioles owner Peter Angelos didn't want to reschedule their game so that the Ravens could play at home.

            I'm not sure it would have made any difference last night as Mr. Manning was on fire.

            I don't see the Ravens repeating so I'll have to think about who the new champion will be.

            Flaco threw the ball 63 times last night.

            What about the Colts? That's it!

            I see the Colts taking care of the Broncos in a playoff game.

            How's that for a game of horse?

            Have fun football fans!

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            Taking nothing away from Peyton, The ravens were awful last night.
            I think many overlook losing Pitta to injury and Boldin to the niners as the more damaging blow than the defensive players attrition.

            Colts and Broncos AFC Championship would be AWESOME!

            Originally Posted by garyv View Post

            After his 2nd touchdown catch I traded one of my other fantasy players out for him. Surprisingly no one had taken him yet. I have a feeling that he made a great impression on Peyton, and will be one of the go to guys.

            By the way, this is him playing basketball - nice fro...

            Whoa.
            Originally Posted by Doran Peck View Post

            I'd like to see Peyton break 50 TD's this season. Hopefully everyone stays healthy.
            3 TDS a game? Thats pushing it.
            Although he did get a gift from Tom Brady( aka Welker), and continually improves whoever he throws to.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

              Jeez, Mr G. Using Jaws as a credible source? Pee-ewe.
              Did I? I thought my next sentence would have invalidated any source.

              Ah, if this was week 15 that pick might mean something, but we all know how futile it is trying make predictions this early in the year.
              I guess you don't like Jaworski. I don't mind him. I'd rather listen to him than a lot of the other talking heads.
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              • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                I guess you don't like Jaworski. I don't mind him. I'd rather listen to him than a lot of the other talking heads.
                He is a very likeable guy. Just not a good analyst.

                The back and forths he has with Gruden can be maddening.

                Those two cause me to hit the mute button more than any other commentators.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
                  Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

                  He is a very likeable guy. Just not a good analyst.

                  The back and forths he has with Gruden can be maddening.

                  Those two cause me to hit the mute button more than any other commentators.
                  Oh yeah, I'm not a fan of Gruden so I'm with you there.

                  I tried to find how the prognosticators made out in 2012. They must remove that content when the season is over, I couldn't find much. I did find one site that listed Jaws as having picked 65% of the games right through week 16. That put him at around 9th or 10th out of maybe 25-30 guys.

                  I think that was right around my percentage too, but the stats have been removed from my football pool so I'm only guessing. I probably averaged 10 or 11 right each week, so that would be 62.5% to 68.75%.
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            • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
              Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

              I think many overlook losing Pitta to injury and Boldin to the niners as the more damaging blow than the defensive players attrition.
              Boldin had a great game for the Niners and they needed it with Crabtree and Manningham injured. 13 recs 208 yards. I don't think they would have won the game without him. Plus an excellent game by Kaepernick: over 400 yards passing, 3 tds and no ints.

              By the way, the Raiders played pretty damn well today. Reggie McKenzie, who was my girlfriend's next door neighbor until a couple months ago, is probably feeling pretty good about the Raider's performance even if they did lose.
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
                Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                Boldin had a great game for the Niners and they needed it with Crabtree and Manningham injured. 13 recs 208 yards. I don't think they would have won the game without him. Plus an excellent game by Kaepernick: over 400 yards passing, 3 tds and no ints.

                By the way, the Raiders played pretty damn well today. Reggie McKenzie, who was my girlfriend's next door neighbor until a couple months ago, is probably feeling pretty good about the Raider's performance even if they did lose.
                Perhaps it's time to send Manning to SF for a refresher course on how to be an effective QB... :rolleyes:
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                • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
                  Eli? He had a good game didn't he? Well, except for the picks.

                  Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                  Perhaps it's time to send Manning to SF for a refresher course on how to be an effective QB... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Keep an eye on the Bengals.
    They've got, possibly, the best receiving corp in the league.
    And, finally, a quarterback who can get the ball to 'em.
    A couple of good RBs, and a good OL.

    And, Zimmer is the best Defensive Coordinator in the league
    and players who can execute.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Thanks for resurrecting the thread,Kurt.

    Surprising non-start to the game. Lightning? Huh? And the Fans just hung in the stands?

    Who cares, FRIGGIN FOOTBALL! AH-HAHAHAHAH! (i like it!)

    Now, How to get all the honey-dews done before Sunday, check-check,Saturday.

    Gators Vs. Canes, after all....
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    That's the way to start a season, eh Kurt?

    Did you see who Ron Jaworski picked for the Superbowl? Packers over Denver.

    Ah, if this was week 15 that pick might mean something, but we all know how futile it is trying make predictions this early in the year. I thought of you when I read it though.

    I'd enjoy that matchup.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    As much as I hate to admit it, I'd have to agree with Kurt and Tim... I see a Denver/9er Super Bowl this year. If the teams avoid major injuries (like any team has to).

    I don't think my Giants will even make the playoffs this year. Injuries are already making things tough, but I think too much will come down to how Eli plays week to week (which can be dicey...). I haven't been impressed with the offense in the preseason, but then I'm usually not.

    NFC East OVER rated? Who's rating them that high to begin with? That division has not been all that dominant in a few seasons now. I don't see them being dominant this year either. I think if RG3 stays healthy, the Skins will get in the playoffs. Dallas may too, but as usual Romo will choke. If the Giants get streaky at the right time they can get in. Maybe.

    Otherwise, I am looking forward to watching Peyton this season.
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  • Profile picture of the author Doran Peck
    I'd like to see Peyton break 50 TD's this season. Hopefully everyone stays healthy.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    OK....
    Neither Baltimore or Pittsburgh will make the playoffs.
    Without Ray Lewis they lose their identity.
    Roethlisberger could very well be seriously injured.
    The Steelers OL is weak and the Bengals have 2 of the best pass-rushers
    in the league.
    To say of the rest of league going after him hard.

    I usually don't like to make predictions because, as they say, "On any given Sunday..."
    But, all things considered, I believe it will be a Broncos, Bengals AFC Championship.
    I also believe it will be the Bengals D that will be the difference.
    So, (knock on wood), I'm picking a 9ers/Bengals SB. (Again :p ).
    But, 3rd time will be the charm.
    The Bengals will get the Lombardie Trophy.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    Wow did the jets and pats get lucky today or what! Both played sloppy but sneaked by in the last minute.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      Originally Posted by craigslist View Post

      Wow did the jets and pats get lucky today or what! Both played sloppy but sneaked by in the last minute.
      The Bucs continued the "Lets make this Rookie QB a Star" Trend.

      Bad decisions on both sides of the ball today.

      # Bucs mediocre ...again
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      • Profile picture of the author ThomM
        Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

        The Bucs continued the "Lets make this Rookie QB a Star" Trend.

        Bad decisions on both sides of the ball today.

        # Bucs mediocre ...again
        I thought we where back in 76 again
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Ok - I'm not going to complain too much, because SF played a great game, but how many games now have the refs taken away from Green-bay?
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Ok - I'm not going to complain too much, because SF played a great game, but how many games now have the refs taken away from Green-bay?
      It's hard to say what would have happened if they got the call right, but one things for sure, they totally blew it. I don't know what McCarthy was thinking though when he accepted the original penalty. He risked giving up a touchdown for what? To maybe make a chip shot field goal five yards longer? That didn't make any sense to me.

      I agree though, I'm tired of seeing Green Bay get shafted by bad officiating.
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      • Profile picture of the author garyv
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        It's hard to say what would have happened if they got the call right, but one things for sure, they totally blew it. I don't know what McCarthy was thinking though when he accepted the original penalty. He risked giving up a touchdown for what? To maybe make a chip shot field goal five yards longer? That didn't make any sense to me.

        I agree though, I'm tired of seeing Green Bay get shafted by bad officiating.
        Yeah, some of the plays called didn't make much sense to me either, but usually the team makes him look like a hero for making those calls. This was just the wrong team to be taking those risks on.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        I agree though, I'm tired of seeing Green Bay get shafted by bad officiating.
        Oh, cry me a river, Gaskill. :rolleyes:

        I'm tired of the Browns getting shafted by bad ownership, coaching, drafting, scheme, execution, staph infections, God, the CIA, invisible gremlins, etc.

        At least the Browns kept the streak live: nine consecutive open day losses. If you can't win, at least be consistent.

        Let the Clowney Sweepstakes commence!
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

          Oh, cry me a river, Gaskill. :rolleyes:

          I'm tired of the Browns getting shafted by bad ownership, coaching, drafting, scheme, execution, staph infections, God, the CIA, invisible gremlins, etc.

          At least the Browns kept the streak live: nine consecutive open day losses. If you can't win, at least be consistent.

          Let the Clowney Sweepstakes commence!

          But see, I've been spoiled with winning ways, while you haven't. :p
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          • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            But see, I've been spoiled with winning ways, while you haven't. :p
            Precisely my point. Whenever things get "rough" for the Pack, just think, "Hey, at least I'm not a Browns fan. God hates Cleveland."
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

              Precisely my point. Whenever things get "rough" for the Pack, just think, "Hey, at least I'm not a Browns fan. God hates Cleveland."
              ...and my point was, you're a Cleveland fan, you shouldn't have positive expectations and therefore shouldn't be disappointed when the team doesn't live up to your non-existent expectations. And my expectations have been conditioned to be high, and so when they are not met, disappointment is expected.


              Hey, I just noticed something. When you change the spacing in "so when" it becomes "sow hen." I'm easily amused.
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              • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                ...and my point was, you're a Cleveland fan, you shouldn't have positive expectations and therefore shouldn't be disappointed when the team doesn't live up to your non-existent expectations. And my expectations have been conditioned to be high, and so when they are not met, disappointment is expected.


                Hey, I just noticed something. When you change the spacing in "so when" it becomes "sow hen." I'm easily amused.
                See, there's where you go wrong. The Cleveland City Motto is, "There's always next year." Every time you say it, a small part of your soul turns black.

                There's always hope to be mercilessly crushed, stomped on and broken asunder. It's the Cleveland way.
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                  Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                  See, there's where you go wrong. The Cleveland City Motto is, "There's always next year." Every time you say it, a small part of your soul turns black.

                  There's always hope to be mercilessly crushed, stomped on and broken asunder. It's the Cleveland way.
                  Wasn't that the saying for the Cubs? Some plagiarism going on somewhere...
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                  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                    Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                    Wasn't that the saying for the Cubs? Some plagiarism going on somewhere...
                    All Cleveland teams share it with the Cubs and the Bills. It's a joint copyright.
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      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Ok - I'm not going to complain too much, because SF played a great game, but how many games now have the refs taken away from Green-bay?
      I understand making a bad call.
      The game is too fast, and plays can be confusing.
      But, how does a pro ref not know how to enforce the penalty?
      In my opinion, the ref who made that decision should be demoted
      if not fired all together.
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    My Colts took out the Raiders and are UN-defeated!
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    Thom, Rob...

    Losing to the Jets? What the Buc!

    I'd be surprised if Sexy Rexy doesn't get fired before the season is over. The Jets are bad.

    But (no pun intended) the Jets have some positive news. ESPN has a poll for worst play of the week and the play is against the running "champ". Mark Sanchez's "Butt Fumble" has been retired. It seems after 40 weeks no other blooper could "beat" it, so in the sake of competition, ESPN retired the Butt Fumble.

    It never gets old:

    And, watching Sanchez flinch is also worth another look:
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Thom, Rob...

      Losing to the Jets? What the Buc!

      I'd be surprised if Sexy Rexy doesn't get fired before the season is over. The Jets are bad.

      But (no pun intended) the Jets have some positive news. ESPN has a poll for worst play of the week and the play is against the running "champ". Mark Sanchez's "Butt Fumble" has been retired. It seems after 40 weeks no other blooper could "beat" it, so in the sake of competition, ESPN retired the Butt Fumble.

      It never gets old:
      Mark Sanchez Fumbles into his own player - YouTube

      And, watching Sanchez flinch is also worth another look:
      Mark Sanchez flinch lol - YouTube
      Like I said, it was like watching a game from 1976, our first year in the NFL The only good I could see is that it would be damn near impossible to play worse. To quote John McKay when he was asked about the execution of his team after a terrible game, "I'm all for it".
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      Yep. That is still funny. I saw that one live and just cracked up when it happened. What was he thinking?

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yep. That is still funny. I saw that one live and just cracked up when it happened. What was he thinking?
        Must be a Jets QB thing. Way back in the Ken O'Brien days, they were playing Miami and he scrambled. He met up with a Miami defender and he flinched so hard he basically tackled himself (I think they referred to it as the phantom tackle in the papers). This was before internet popularity, Youtube, etc. I tried to find a video... no joy. It was a treasure to watch back then
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Yep. That is still funny. I saw that one live and just cracked up when it happened. What was he thinking?
        Butt fumble. Cracked up. LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm glad the Pack lost the game because the refs gave them a field goal that was clearly a missed one verses my Colts in a 1965 playoff game.

    That is the reason the uprights are now elongated verses the way they were before the incident.

    To top it all off we beat the Pack last year on a Packer missed field goal late in the game.
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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      I'm glad the Pack lost the game because the refs gave them a field goal that was clearly a missed one verses my Colts in a 1965 playoff game
      It can't feel as bad as seeing Peyton break records on another team...
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    wow the eagles look very good! 1st game blues for the redskins but great new schemes from the eagles
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    Giants signed Back Brandon Jacobs!
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    Here's a tweet by someone called peytonshead (PeytonsHead ) on Twitter:

    Deion Sanders' wife is suing for $200M, claiming she's been portrayed as a gold digger. Deion's defense? "Your Honor, she's suing for $200M"
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
    Holy Crapola!!!!

    Bucs.....

    Mental mistakes (118 penalty yards) overrode an outstanding defensive effort.
    Poor coaching decisions did not help either.
    Mike Sullivan ( OC) has got to go.

    I have been a Freeman supporter.
    BUT..
    He seems lackadaisical. No fire.. No fury..
    As if he has resigned himself to losing the job..

    Another season of the Stressaneers
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    gmen look really bad
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Exciting game at halftime: 5-0!! I wonder what the score would have been if the one hour delay hadn't slowed the defense?
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Seattle is a better team than the 49ers.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Seattle is a better team than the 49ers.

          As of now, I'd rank the teams:

          1. Seattle
          2. Denver
          3. 49ers

          And Thom and/or Rob, one of you guys needs to buy Freeman an alarm clock. He was even late to his own youth camp.
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          • Profile picture of the author garyv
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            As of now, I'd rank the teams:

            1. Seattle
            2. Denver
            3. 49ers

            And Thom and/or Rob, one of you guys needs to buy Freeman an alarm clock. He was even late to his own youth camp.
            Do you think the game tonight - Seattle vs 49ers - would have gone differently in a quieter stadium? - And do you think that Manning would have the same problem in that stadium?
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            • Profile picture of the author Kurt
              Originally Posted by garyv View Post

              Do you think the game tonight - Seattle vs 49ers - would have gone differently in a quieter stadium? - And do you think that Manning would have the same problem in that stadium?
              Good point and good questions...Seattle is the most jeckyl/hyde team in the NFL, depending on playing at home or away.

              I know preseason doesn't count for much, but Seattle pushed the Broncos all over the field and really kicked our butts. But, it was in Seattle.

              I have Seattle #1 because they beat the 9ers, so I'm ranking them over the Broncos simply because of their quality win.

              But, I should add that my Broncos have won 13 straight regular season games, all by at least 7 points, and I don't have them too far behind Seattle.

              And, I believe Peyton can handle just about any situation.
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              • Profile picture of the author garyv
                Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

                Good point and good questions...Seattle is the most jeckyl/hyde team in the NFL, depending on playing at home or away.

                I know preseason doesn't count for much, but Seattle pushed the Broncos all over the field and really kicked our butts. But, it was in Seattle.

                I have Seattle #1 because they beat the 9ers, so I'm ranking them over the Broncos simply because of their quality win.

                But, I should add that my Broncos have won 13 straight regular season games, all by at least 7 points, and I don't have them too far behind Seattle.

                And, I believe Peyton can handle just about any situation.
                I agree Kurt - I think it will all come down to who has home advantage in the playoffs.
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            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

            As of now, I'd rank the teams:

            1. Seattle
            2. Denver
            3. 49ers

            And Thom and/or Rob, one of you guys needs to buy Freeman an alarm clock. He was even late to his own youth camp.
            I was just reading an article that said he's going to ask to be traded soon.
            One can only hope
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Dear Colts Fans,

    You're welcome.

    Sincerely,

    The Newest Group of Idiots Managing the Browns

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    So is Ben Rothlisberger finally too old? For the first time in my fantasy football career, no one in my league has Ben Rothlisberger. Is he washed up? Or is he just surrounded by talentless players?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
    Good lord. The Browns can't even tank a season correctly.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Did anybody see the Bengals - Packers game?

    INCREDIBLE!

    Bengals lead 14 - 0 before Rodgers even steps on the field.
    They then procede to turn the ball over on 4 consecutive possessions
    but allow only 3 field goals and a defensive TD.
    Down 30 - 14 the Bengals win it when Lewis challenges a 1st down.
    He wins.
    Packers; 3rd and inches.
    Franklin fumbles, Bengals return it for a TD.
    D holds. Bengals 34 - 30.
    Both teams had 4 turn overs.
    Bengals intercept Rodgers twice, breaking his 42 game record of not having thrown 2 ints
    in one game.
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    • Profile picture of the author garyv
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Did anybody see the Bengals - Packers game?

      INCREDIBLE!

      Bengals lead 14 - 0 before Rodgers even steps on the field.
      They then procede to turn the ball over on 4 consecutive possessions
      but allow only 3 field goals and a defensive TD.
      Down 30 - 14 the Bengals win it when Lewis challenges a 1st down.
      He wins.
      Packers; 3rd and inches.
      Franklin fumbles, Bengals return it for a TD.
      D holds. Bengals 34 - 30.
      Both teams had 4 turn overs.
      Bengals intercept Rodgers twice, breaking his 42 game record of not having thrown 2 ints
      in one game.
      I watched it - it was a great game, but painful for me to watch.
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      • Profile picture of the author lcombs
        Originally Posted by garyv View Post

        I watched it - it was a great game, but painful for me to watch.
        Well, it was bitter-sweet for me.
        I was a Packer fan years before the Bengals came along.

        I wanted the Bengals to win but hated it was at the expense of the Pack.

        Had I not moved to FLA. I'd have been there.
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        • Profile picture of the author craigslist
          Packers bengals game was pretty good
          BUT how bad are the teams we would'nt of expected like
          The Giants
          The Steelers
          The 49ers???? Even The Redskins???
          Why are they getting on the Jaguars so much?
          Those other teams stink just as bad
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            WTF 49ers? 10 points in the last two games and leading the league in penalties ( or close to it )? Meanwhile Alex Smith and the Chiefs start out 3-0.
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              Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

              WTF 49ers? 10 points in the last two games and leading the league in penalties ( or close to it )? Meanwhile Alex Smith and the Chiefs start out 3-0.
              I feel your pain - I'm a Giants fan. I only wish they showed up yesterday... WTF is right. :confused:
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                Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

                I feel your pain - I'm a Giants fan. I only wish they showed up yesterday... WTF is right. :confused:
                Speaking of the Giants, I think the 49ers caught whatever is ailing the SF Giants because they are both playing way below their level after playing in the Championship the year before ( with the SF Giants winning it ). I sure hope the Warriors don't catch whatever it is.

                By the way, Kurt sure is quiet the past few days about the NFL. i think he is just waiting until after the Raider game tonight so he can post the "we bad" video. The Raiders are improved but I don't expect them to offer much competition tonight.
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                  Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

                  Speaking of the Giants, I think the 49ers caught whatever is ailing the SF Giants because they are both playing way below their level after playing in the Championship the year before ( with the SF Giants winning it ). I sure hope the Warriors don't catch whatever it is.

                  By the way, Kurt sure is quiet the past few days about the NFL. i think he is just waiting until after the Raider game tonight so he can post the "we bad" video. The Raiders are improved but I don't expect them to offer much competition tonight.
                  I enjoyed the preliminarily games over the weekend before we play on MNF.
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          • Profile picture of the author lcombs
            Originally Posted by craigslist View Post

            Packers bengals game was pretty good
            BUT how bad are the teams we would'nt of expected like
            The Giants
            The Steelers
            The 49ers???? Even The Redskins???
            Why are they getting on the Jaguars so much?
            Those other teams stink just as bad
            I expected a down year for the Steelers.
            I agree about the 9ers and Giants. I expected the 9ers
            to be headed for the SB again.
            I think the Pack will bounce back and the Bears to fade.
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    Broncos win their 14th straight regular season game, all by 7 points or more.

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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Broncos win their 14th straight regular season game, all by 7 points or more.
      Another impressive win Kurt. It's funny how I was feeling the Raiders were playing well even when they were behind by 3 touchdowns. That's both a testament to how good Denver is and how improved Oakland is over the last few dreadful years. lol
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        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Another impressive win Kurt. It's funny how I was feeling the Raiders were playing well even when they were behind by 3 touchdowns. That's both a testament to how good Denver is and how improved Oakland is over the last few dreadful years. lol
        As well as the Broncos are playing, they still haven't really put a whole game together and I feel we could be even better.

        Having Peyton Manning on the Broncos is so much fun for me. It's amazing how accurate he really is. In this game, he was 32 for 37 and all 5 of his incompletions hit the receiver in the hands. A couple of them would have been tough catches, one was knocked out of the TE's hands, but they were all on target.
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          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

          As well as the Broncos are playing, they still haven't really put a whole game together and I feel we could be even better.

          Having Peyton Manning on the Broncos is so much fun for me. It's amazing how accurate he really is. In this game, he was 32 for 37 and all 5 of his incompletions hit the receiver in the hands. A couple of them would have been tough catches, one was knocked out of the TE's hands, but they were all on target.
          I always liked the Broncos. They are indeed turning out to be a fun team to watch, but I only get to see nationally televised games

          Now, the way I see it Kurt... Denver can slide a little of that WIN karma to the G-Men and have plenty to spare. Would you talk to them please???
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            Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

            I always liked the Broncos. They are indeed turning out to be a fun team to watch, but I only get to see nationally televised games

            Now, the way I see it Kurt... Denver can slide a little of that WIN karma to the G-Men and have plenty to spare. Would you talk to them please???
            Maybe Eli and Peyton can post in the JV section?

            Maybe trade some of Eli's Superbowl magic for some of Peyton's regular season success?
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
              Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

              Maybe Eli and Peyton can post in the JV section?

              Maybe trade some of Eli's Superbowl magic for some of Peyton's regular season success?
              Now THAT sounds like a good deal. I'll work a few of my contacts and see what I can do.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    did anyone see the cheap shot the bengals player gave to the packers player in the nads sunday?
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      • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
        Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

        Not so sure, Thom.

        Yeah,Freeman has been Awful this season.

        I think The OC Sullivan needs walking papers as well.

        The good thing is, If Glennon stays healthy, We will see what hes made of.

        2014s QB class is loaded with talent, so if it doesnt work out, Maybe, just maybe, We will get a franchise QB.

        In True Creamsicle fan fashion, I am hoping for the best, and expecting the mediocre :p
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        • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
          Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

          In True Creamsicle fan fashion, I am hoping for the best, and expecting the mediocre :p
          I go ya beat: I hope for mediocrity and expect the absolute worst possible. My expectations are always met in grand fashion.
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          • Profile picture of the author lcombs
            Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

            I go ya beat: I hope for mediocrity and expect the absolute worst possible. My expectations are always met in grand fashion.
            Uh... listen.... I'm a Bengals fan.

            Mikey Boy Brown aspires to mediocrity.

            Mediocrity gives fans hope and puts butts in the seats.

            He has no concern whatsoever about winning a SB.

            Lewis has more control over the team than any other head coach
            besides Paul Brown because Mikey Boy has is in the process of passing the torch.
            His daughter Katie, (Punkin), and her husband Troy talked Mikey out of hiring
            Tom Coughlin and, instead hired Marvin Lewis.
            Funny... Mikey finally makes the right decision but lets "Punkin" talk him out of it.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
              Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

              Uh... listen.... I'm a Bengals fan.

              Mikey Boy Brown aspires to mediocrity.

              Mediocrity gives fans hope and puts butts in the seats.

              He has no concern whatsoever about winning a SB.

              Lewis has more control over the team than any other head coach
              besides Paul Brown because Mikey Boy has is in the process of passing the torch.
              His daughter Katie, (Punkin), and her husband Troy talked Mikey out of hiring
              Tom Coughlin and, instead hired Marvin Lewis.
              Funny... Mikey finally makes the right decision but lets "Punkin" talk him out of it.
              You aren't actually trying to compare organizational suckitude with that of the Cleveland Browns are you?

              I get that the Bengals (Bungles) have had their moments, but you need either be criminally insane or to have had a TBI to accomplish the level of asshattery the Browns' management has accomplished since '99.
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              • Profile picture of the author lcombs
                Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

                You aren't actually trying to compare organizational suckitude with that of the Cleveland Browns are you?

                I get that the Bengals (Bungles) have had their moments, but you need either be criminally insane or to have had a TBI to accomplish the level of asshattery the Browns' management has accomplished since '99.
                Well, The Ravens are the Browns.
                Had Modell, (who thought it a good idea to fire Paul Brown), not moved the team
                you'd be sittin' pretty.

                As it stands, The Browns are an expansion team.

                And, I might add, they just beat the Bungles.
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                • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
                  Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

                  Well, The Ravens are the Browns.
                  Had Modell, (who thought it a good idea to fire Paul Brown), not moved the team
                  you'd be sittin' pretty.

                  As it stands, The Browns are an expansion team.

                  And, I might add, they just beat the Bungles.
                  Technically, the Ravens are the expansion team. Cleveland kept its history.

                  Realistically, the Browns were an expansion team. It's difficult to continue using that label as an excuse 14 years later.

                  Regarding beating the Bengals, the Browns can't even tank a season correctly. That's how badly this organization is run. They trade the face of the organization and start their THIRD string QB over their healthy #2 QB in an attempt to throw the season and, of course, reel off two, potentially three, straight wins. Ugh.
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    The Giants looked pretty good today! WTF??????
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    • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
      Another butt fumble play by a Jet QB.

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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

        Another butt fumble play by a Jet QB.

        Actually, out here we called it a muffed self-handoff.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    And, the Saints just took the Dolphins to school!

    I may become a Saints fan considering they're the closest team.
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    all the ny teams stink this year!
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      Originally Posted by craigslist View Post

      all the ny teams stink this year!
      Jay Leno joked:

      Because Eli has been struggling and Peyton playing so well, Eli called Peyton and asked if Eli should change anything.

      Peyton said, "Yeah, you should change your last name."
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        Jay Leno joked:

        Because Eli has been struggling and Peyton playing so well, Eli called Peyton and asked if Eli should change anything.

        Peyton said, "Yeah, you should change your last name."
        Considering the odds of someone playing NFL football, this an amazing
        family. The oldest brother, Cooper, might have played pro
        (probably as a wide receiver) except he was diagnosed with spinal
        stenosis in high school and so did not play college ball.

        There's a story that when Peyton and Cooper were, respectively,
        around 4 and 6 years old and watching their dad QB the Saints
        (then called the Aints) in a bad game, they put bags over their heads
        like many Saint fans did back then. Made Mom laugh.

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    Commence debating:

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    Bad news: Broncos play without their 5 best players on D and give up 48 points.

    Good news: Broncos score a Fiddy Burger for the second game in a row and win 51-48. Whew! What a game!

    For the 16th straight regular season win:
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Bad news: Broncos play without their 5 best players on D and give up 48 points.

      Good news: Broncos score a Fiddy Burger for the second game in a row and win 51-48. Whew! What a game!

      For the 16th straight regular season win:
      Thats right we bad - YouTube
      Tremendous game!

      Right before it was a 13 - 6 Bengals win over the Pats.

      The Bengals D ended Brady's 52 game passing TD streak.
      They swarmed all over him and the rest of Pats O.
      On the winning TD drive the Bengals had the ball 3rd and 17 from their own 1.
      Proceeded to shred the Pats D and score the games only TD.
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    Pardon me but, has anyone seen the NY Giants? They had a game today against Philly and they never showed up...
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

      Pardon me but, has anyone seen the NY Giants? They had a game today against Philly and they never showed up...
      Someone put up a sign over at U Albany saying, "Hay Giants, when you trained here you won".
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    Well, this is as good a place as any to post my first. Just gotta say, as much as I loved having P. Manning in Indy for all those years, it was best for all to see him go. He would've gotten absolutely killed behind the Colt's o-line last year. Good for him that he has a staunch offense. Playing the best of his career (but he'll still go into Canton as a Colt).

    That said, can anyone doubt now that Indianapolis made the right move by letting Payton go and signing Andrew Luck? That kid's a bulldog and Indy's back on stride after 1 hiccup of a year in 2011. He's nothing but a winner and the Colts get to go immediately from one stud QB to another; they're set for another 15-year run.

    You can keep your RGIII and Colin K. The way Luck takes command of games is outstanding. Can't wait until Payton's return to The Luke. That's going to be one 'elluva game!
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      You guys have an excellent qb there.
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      The way Luck takes command of games is outstanding.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    I've heard people say they believe the Chiefs are the biggest surprise so far. I think how bad the Falcons and Giants have been has been my biggest surprise.

    I think Tom Coughlin's face is about to turn from red to purple.
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      I've heard people say they believe the Chiefs are the biggest surprise so far. I think how bad the Falcons and Giants have been has been my biggest surprise.

      I think Tom Coughlin's face is about to turn from red to purple.
      Yeah, it's certainly starting.

      Yet oddly (for NY sports and media) I have not yet heard the throngs of "Tom Must Go!!!". Really, I think some front office changes are needed. Someone's not thinking. They need a runner - so they bring back Brandon. No help (which we knew). They need help on defense, they bring in a LB who's not played well in several years who lost HIS job to a LB the Giants lost to them.

      As a Mets fan, I am used to disappointment. As a Giants fan, this is beyond disappointing so far.
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    Coughlin has banked some benefit of the doubt. The season is still young... isn't this pretty standard for the Giants? Slow start, etc. then get hot late and sneak into the playoffs on a roll?
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      Originally Posted by lockdownd7 View Post

      Coughlin has banked some benefit of the doubt. The season is still young... isn't this pretty standard for the Giants? Slow start, etc. then get hot late and sneak into the playoffs on a roll?
      Depends really. On the last 2 super bowl wins, I recall they started well, hit mid-season slumps then went on a roll at just the right time. With an 0-5 start, unless the make some personnel moves (players) I don't expect a playoff run.

      Coughlin does have that benefit and the Mara's don't typically fire a coach mid-season. But I didn't think he had that much benefit from the sports media and NY fans. THAT is unusual. You should hear Yankee fans this season since they didn't make the playoffs
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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    RIP to Bum Phillips who passed away yesterday.

    Also, a belated RIP to Art Donovan, who left us about a month ago.

    They were two of the all time greatest sports characters (and people) ever.

    When asked about Don Shula as a coach, Bum said:
    "He'll take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n".
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Sorry to hear about Bum.
    He was definitely one of the best, and colorful.

    I remember that quote well.
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      FIRE MARC DOMINIK,TOO!

      And this Numbnuts...

      and Doug Martin got hurt today.

      Woe is to the Bucs Fan!
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    The Bengals pulled out a real nail-biter against Detroit.

    But, they lost Leon Hall for the season putting their already depleated D backs in an even deeper hole.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    What a game! I did more yelling for this game than I've done all season.

    At the end of the 3rd, with the score 33-17 I knew if we scored just 3 more points - the rest of the game, it would be dam near impossible for Peyton to pull off a miracle comeback - we scored 6 but I am without fingernails.

    As a longtime Colts fan, I can say that Lucas Field is no longer Peytons' Place.

    We'll probably have to deal with him again in this years' playoffs.
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    Are the Bengals for real?
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      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Are the Bengals for real?

      Sure they are.

      You Bengal fans should be very happy with what's going on these days.

      At least you guys make the playoffs like every other year or so. That's all the average NFL fans could hope for.

      I'm sure you remember how it was before Marvin don't you?

      Maybe this year you'll win a playoff game or two.

      And one of these years everything will come together and you may win it all.

      Don't get greedy and fire Marvin just because you're not progressing as fast as you'd like.

      I remember what happened to Detroit after they fired Wayne Fontes in the 1980s.

      Detroit was competitive every year but that wasn't good enough for the ownership and the fans.

      Fontes was fired and that lead to a non-competitive downhill slide for the Lions over the next 20 or so years - until recently.

      So be careful Bengal fan and enjoy what you have.
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    Rams played seahawks tough last nite
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    Quick NFL Pop Quiz.

    What does this number represent?

    8 (2 things)



    (not Steve Young)
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      8 stars on the logo
      8 divisions
      not Steve Young

      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Quick NFL Pop Quiz.

      What does this number represent?

      8 (2 things)



      (not Steve Young)
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        Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

        8 stars on the logo
        8 divisions
        not Steve Young

        I didn't even know about the stars in the logo and as Ed MCman used to say to Johnny, you are correct sir regarding the 8 divisions.

        I thought teams played 8 division games but it's only 6.

        Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I heard that there will be only one game between teams with a winning record this week.

    My Colts will deal with the Texans tonight and show them the division belongs to us not them.
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    • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
      ESPNS' Pat Yasinkas says it all for me:

      What it means: Did you really think the result was going to be any different? Even when the Bucs had leads of 21-0 and 24-7? Of course not. If you’ve followed Tampa Bay this season, you knew a second-half collapse was coming, and it did. The Bucs squandered a shot to beat one of the NFL’s best teams in one of the league’s loudest stadiums. Instead, they’re 0-8 and at a new low point.

      Schiano Watch: There already has been plenty of speculation about coach Greg Schiano’s future. That’s only going to intensify now. The Bucs got conservative once they got the lead. And, once again, Schiano and his staff failed to make the proper halftime adjustments. I’m sure ownership is hesitant to make a coaching change at midseason. But one might be seriously pondered after a loss like this.

      Historic moment: The come-from-behind victory was the largest in Seattle history. The previous largest comeback was from 20 points against Denver in 1995.

      Wasting a big day: Playing in place of the injured Doug Martin, rookie Mike James rushed for 158 yards and also threw a touchdown pass. But none of that really mattered because the Bucs lost.
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        Just gonna leave this here in honor of yet another win by the G.O.A.T.:

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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Colts comeback and take care of Houston.

    I'm ready to claim the division title now.

    Playoffs here we come!
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    Best wishes to John Fox and Gary Kubiak. Both have strong Denver ties and both remind us that football is just a game and there's more to life.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    IMHO...

    Perfect football weather is 60 degrees with no wind and no rain.



    Evolution of the passing game in pro football.


    http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com...ing-game/6778/
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    Peyton Manning 33 Touchdown Passes: Watch All Of Broncos QB's TDs Through Nine Games

    Video here...

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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Peyton Manning 33 Touchdown Passes: Watch All Of Broncos QB's TDs Through Nine Games

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      Yep Payton has been on fire.
      On the other hand the Bucs finally got their first win last night and looked good doing it for a change. I'm diggin the hell out of our new Quarterback and I was pretty impressed with our number 4 and 5 tailbacks. Not to mention our D holding the Fins to only two yards rushing for the entire game
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    Thursday Night Football:

    Colts dust off Titans in a tale of two halfs!

    We're now at 7-3 and have almost locked up the division and another playoff appearance!


    Game of the week?


    KC @ DEN

    Runner up = SF @ NO

    (NO had NFL record 40 1st downs in last week's route of Dallas)


    My picks = Den & NO


    Congrats TB (is it Tampa Bay or Tuberculosis?) on your first win of the season.

    Enjoy the games!

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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      Thursday Night Football:

      Colts dust off Titans in a tale of two halfs!

      We're now at 7-3 and have almost locked up the division and another playoff appearance!


      Game of the week?


      KC @ DEN

      Runner up = SF @ NO

      (NO had NFL record 40 1st downs in last week's route of Dallas)


      My picks = Den & NO


      Congrats TB (is it Tampa Bay or Tuberculosis?) on your first win of the season.

      Enjoy the games!

      TL
      I like the Broncos. First, because we're at home.

      But second, the pundits are only talking about the Chiefs defense. However, if you compare the two Ds for the past 3 games (since we got Von Miller back), our D has actually been statistically better than the Chiefs.

      And it's been against better QBs. The Chiefs have faced second and third string QBs each of the past 5 games. Peyton, even with a sprained ankle, isn't a backup QB.
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    Break up the Bucs!
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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Break up the Bucs!

      That is the type of performance I was expecting to see all season.

      I may have to reconsider my opinion of the coaching staff.

      Running the table would be impressive.

      Winning cures all ills.....
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    How 'bout dem Patriots, huh?
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  • Profile picture of the author craigslist
    Brady had a great game-Peyton had a crummy game-though he made some spectacular passes - ya never know this could be the afc championship game
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      Originally Posted by craigslist View Post

      Brady had a great game-Peyton had a crummy game-though he made some spectacular passes - ya never know this could be the afc championship game

      Another tale of two halfs.
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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Neither one of those teams are my favorite, but that was definitely my favorite game to watch so far this year. I love comebacks like that. Sorry to all Denver fans, weather definitely played a factor in the game.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I just got sick of all the drama queen sports writers riding the Pats all season going on about all the ball-dropping unknown rookies and questioning if Brady was losing it, etc.

    I don't think there's another team in the league that could have literally put a team together on the fly as they have and maintained one of the better records as they have and actually be morphing into a legitimate powerhouse at just the right time. Go Pats!
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  • Profile picture of the author Sophia41
    49ers was in top form yesterday when they thumped Redskins 27-6. Kaepernick was fantastic for 49ers.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    It's been a really tough year for RG3 and the Skins - whom I have to watch every Sunday.

    It's been this type of year for the H-trophy winner.






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  • Profile picture of the author Kurt
    What a comeback by Luck and the Colts!

    And I want to thank TL and his Colts once again for Peyton Manning.

    In other news, the What The Bucs sign Lovie as their new coach. What's the matter Thom and Rob, you guys can't afford either Skipper or the Professor?
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    • Profile picture of the author ThomM
      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      What a comeback by Luck and the Colts!

      And I want to thank TL and his Colts once again for Peyton Manning.

      In other news, the What The Bucs sign Lovie as their new coach. What's the matter Thom and Rob, you guys can't afford either Skipper or the Professor?
      One of the best moves we've made in a long time
      He got his start in the NFL as Dungy's Linebackers coach.
      He had a winning record with the Bears in addition to taking them to the super bowl once and the playoffs three times.
      If Dungy, Brooks, and Nickerson think he's the right man for the job that's good enough for me.
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    What a comeback by my Colts!

    I never lost faith and never do as long as there's enough time on the clock.

    On to New England!
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      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      What a comeback by my Colts!

      I never lost faith and never do as long as there's enough time on the clock.

      On to New England!
      So far one of the best games in the playoffs.
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    Unfortunately my Colts succumbed to the Pats from New England last night but if we continue to go to the playoffs one of these years, it'll be our year once again.

    It was fun while it lasted.

    Kurts' Broncos should blow the Chargers out or will familiarity kill the Bronco?

    Tim's gold seekers should be able to cage the cats from the Carolinas.

    But that's why they play the games.
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      That was a tough game to watch TL. But you all will be in the playoffs again next year and I also see a superbowl in your near future.
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      • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
        I was pulling for your Colts TL. I also wanted to see the Saints win but Seattle won easily. Hopefully my Niners and Kurt's Broncos can win today. I would love to see us meet in the Super Bowl.
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          Originally Posted by TimPhelan View Post

          I was pulling for your Colts TL. I also wanted to see the Saints win but Seattle won easily. Hopefully my Niners and Kurt's Broncos can win today. I would love to see us meet in the Super Bowl.

          49ers and Broncos was my preseason pick for the Superbowl, so I'm sticking with it, although Seattle has looked tough all year.

          We have Wes Welker, Dominique Rogers-Cromatie and Champ Bailey back this week and none played against the Chargers the last game. Hopefully they will make a difference.
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          • Profile picture of the author TimPhelan
            49ers ahead barely at halftime. Good game so far. These teams really don't like each other much. I agree about Seattle Kurt. It's going to be tough for either the Carolina or the Niners to beat them at home, although I saw Arizona win in Seattle a few weeks ago.
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    Hey Tim...We both made the Final Four!

    Kind of a scary finish for the Broncos, but what matters is we held on to win. Looks like the 4 best regular season teams are the 4 remaining teams with no major upsets this playoff year.

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    Conference Champion Predicitons

    Two upsets...

    49ers 27 Seahawks 23

    Patriots 43 Broncos 34
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    My prediction is that Kurt will meet Tim in the Super Bowl.
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    If kharma has anything to do with it, the Broncos should win simply because of how well Peyton Manning treats kids. See for yourself, NO NFL player has EVER treated kids like this:

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    Superbowl here we come!

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      Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

      Superbowl here we come!
      Congrats Kurt!

      I just got back from Vegas where I watched the game in a big playoff party in one of the casinos. Great atmosphere! I ended up betting a little bit on the Niners to beat the point spread which was Seattle by 3 1/2. I would have won the bet if Kaepernick hadn't thrown the interception which led to the last field goal. Damn!!!! It hurt more just to lose the game though. I can't stand the Seahawks. Did you hear about the Seattle fan who got a tattoo saying "Seattle Super Bowl XLVIII Champs" before the 49er game?

      I'm really, really pulling for the Broncos and am hoping they beat them by a good amount. Say 27 points. However, whatever you guys do, just make sure you win. I'll take a 1 point win. Then Seattle will be 0-2 in the Super Bowl.
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    Congrats, Kurt. I'm pulling for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Glad to see Peyton make it back to the Stupid Bowl.
    But, I hate Elway. Always have after he stiffed the (then Baltimore), Colts
    when they drafted him.
    Funny how things come around.
    Elway stiffed the Colts and refused to sign with them rather than man up and do what
    the draft was designed for: Help the lesser teams improve.
    And now, he's counting on Manning who did sign with a bad Colts team and took them to the Stupid Bowl.
    Wonder if that ever came up in Elway/Manning conversations.
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Sherman! What a classless asswipe!
    I was rooting for the Hawks.
    Now, I wish that pass would have been completed over him.

    GO BRONCS!
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      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Sherman! What a classless asswipe!
      I was rooting for the Hawks.
      Now, I wish that pass would have been completed over him.

      GO BRONCS!
      I thought it was entertaining. Here's what Forbes thought:

      22 Brief Thoughts About That Richard Sherman Interview - Forbes

      Either way, number 8 made sense:

      If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up.

      In any case, it was a good game. Congrats to both teams.
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        Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

        I thought it was entertaining. Here's what Forbes thought:

        22 Brief Thoughts About That Richard Sherman Interview - Forbes

        Either way, number 8 made sense:

        If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up.

        In any case, it was a good game. Congrats to both teams.

        The interview made me bust out laughing.
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    Kudos to The Broncos and Seahawks. They each had awesome seasons.

    Thumbs down to the officials for their many horrendous calls this year. I don't think there was a single team that didn't get screwed by one or more awful calls this season.
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      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      Kudos to The Broncos and Seahawks. They each had awesome seasons.

      Thumbs down to the officials for their many horrendous calls this year. I don't think there was a single team that didn't get screwed by one or more awful calls this season.
      I agree.
      Too many bad calls, missed calls, and wrong calls.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I'll be pulling for the Seahawks only because Russell Wilson was the Wisconsin Badgers QB for a year. I wouldn't bet against Denver though. My guess is Peyton's experience will make the difference.
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      I'll be pulling for the Seahawks only because Russell Wilson was the Wisconsin Badgers QB for a year. I wouldn't bet against Denver though. My guess is Peyton's experience will make the difference.

      What about Montee Ball?
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        Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

        What about Montee Ball?
        Is he playing? I haven't watched Denver much this year, but in what little I did see it was Knowshon (sp?) getting the carries. If Ball is getting carries I'll pull for him as an individual. The Seattle GM was in Green Bay for a long time too though, and did a lot for the Packers, so that's another "connection" with Seattle for me.

        Plus I'm an NFC guy since that's the conference the Packers play in, but the truth is, I'm not really pulling hard for any team since the Packers are watching from home.
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          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Is he playing? I haven't watched Denver much this year, but in what little I did see it was Knowshon (sp?) getting the carries. If Ball is getting carries I'll pull for him as an individual. The Seattle GM was in Green Bay for a long time too though, and did a lot for the Packers, so that's another "connection" with Seattle for me.

          Plus I'm an NFC guy since that's the conference the Packers play in, but the truth is, I'm not really pulling hard for any team since the Packers are watching from home.
          Montee "Meat" Ball is starting to come on. He struggled early, but that past 6-7 games he is averaging over 6 yards a carry. Knowshon does get most of the carries, mostly because he's a better pass blocker and receiver, but Ball gets some carries in relief.

          Plus, Ball is much more a Badger than Wilson is...
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Kurt View Post


            Plus, Ball is much more a Badger than Wilson is...
            That's true! I'm glad to hear Ball is coming on. He's a good kid. You never know if a kid will make the transition to the NFL. The Packers drafted two running backs in the last draft, and one is going to the Pro Bowl and the other barely sniffed the field.

            Anyway, like I said, I think Peyton's experience will be the difference maker in the game.
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    Congrats Kurt and sorry Tim.

    The refs blew a least a couple of calls yesterday that reminded me of a Don King production which I pray won't be repeated in New Jersey two weeks from now.

    The big game should be a classic with the leagues' all time greatest offense going up against a very, very stingy defense.

    Let's hope the weather won't be a major factor.
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    Superbowl 420! WA and CO in super-bowl.

    Daily Kos: Superbowl 420! WA and CO in super-bowl
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    -There has not been a back to back Super Bowl winner since the Pats did it in 2004 and 2005.

    -Baltimore wins the Super Bowl last year and failed to make the playoffs this year.

    As far as parity is concerned the NFL has what it wanted.
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