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So we were set to move to California, and we had put down a security deposit of $1100 on an apartment. A few days later we find out our cat has lung cancer, and we have no idea how long she has left, but we are told she can't travel cross country. We notify the apartments only a few days after they had received our deposit, letting them know we still want to move there but it may be a couple of months as a result of the situation with our cat. We are told the only way we won't lose our security deposit is if we immediately sign a lease, yet we don't know about our cat (and are still very upset and confused), so I tell them we can't commit to a lease yet. We are told that we lose our security deposit on the apartment, and there is nothing we can do about it. The apartment we so called "reserved" is not even available for move in yet, and we have not signed a lease yet, but there is some fine print on the application saying we would owe money as if we are on a lease. I tried to explain that we would move in later still if they would work with me now and return the deposit. The won't do it. How would you feel about that?
#angry #sad
  • Profile picture of the author Randy Bheites
    California has very strict renter's rights laws. Check the Tenant Rights Handbook online at Landlord/Tenant Book Index - California Department of Consumer Affairs
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    • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
      Let me start off by saying, my mother and I are HUGE animal lovers. She has
      practically given her life for cats and dogs.

      but....there is a solution to this problem that you are not thinking about
      which beats losing your $1100.

      Have the cat boarded. We've done it lots of times when we had no choice.

      It will cost you less than the $1100 you're going to lose on your security.

      Ultimately, it all comes down to how important the money is to you. The cat,
      sadly, is not going to be around much longer. You, on the other hand, need
      a place to live and I seriously doubt you can afford to throw away $1100
      like that.

      If it was my cat, and we've been in this situation when we lived in an
      apartment before I met my wife and got married, this is what I'd do.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mar
        Hi - I love cats - and know that they're great companions. I understand how attached you are to the cat.

        In your circumstances, I'd ask the vet how long your cat has got to live (I know they can't give a definitive answer but they should be able to give you an idea) - if it's only a few weeks, then you're going to face the decision to end the cat's suffering at some point. I'd probably take the decision to put the cat to sleep and move on with my life.

        When you get to your new apartment, assuming you're allowed pets at all, then you can find a lovely new bundle of fur and fun to brighten up your life.

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    • Profile picture of the author dvduval
      Originally Posted by Randy Bheites View Post

      California has very strict renter's rights laws. Check the Tenant Rights Handbook online at Landlord/Tenant Book Index - California Department of Consumer Affairs
      Thanks for this. I do believe I have a case here. I can afford to lose the money, but it is the principle that really bugs me. As far as I can see there are 4 reasons a security deposit can be kept:
      California Tenants - California Department of Consumer Affairs
      And reserving an apartment does not seem to be one of them, so I will press this point. I have a couple of other avenues I am working on too.

      Thanks so much for your help and responses.
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  • Profile picture of the author Star69
    Look at the horse from the right end...

    You say you want to move in but can't presently. So why not ask management if they can hold your deposit and delay signing the lease (or at least post-date it a few months down the road)?

    Asking management to return your deposit, promising you'll move in later is like telling them they are stupid. They give the money back and people never come back. They have your money right now and have something to lord over you. Think they'll return it? Ha!

    They just want you to sign the lease, so what does it matter if you sign now or when your apartment is actually ready to move into? If you signed now, would you be paying rent on an apartment that isn;t even habitable yet? Why?

    Ask them to hold onto your deposit and allow you to sign the lease at a time more to your liking.

    If they won't work with you in such a situation as this, I wouldn't want to sign a lease with them. And I'd sue them for everything I could get.

    Actually, I wouldn't ever rent or lease because it's a losing proposition for the rentor/leasor.
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  • Profile picture of the author artwebster
    The apartment we so called "reserved" is not even available for move in yet

    So, might the problem with your cat have been resolved by the time it is ready to move in to?

    It might be worth getting a second opinion on the 'can't move' prognosis because even for humans, a prognosis like that a few days after diagnosis seems a bit extreme.
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  • Profile picture of the author Patrician
    Look at this like a business decision they are making. There is never much sentiment involved in business. (having said that I don't know if I would want to live there after this) - but they removed the rental from the advertising more than likely when they got the deposit and have not accepted other applications/deposits as a result of having received yours.

    The fact that it is not habitable is another issue, from a few perspectives, and if you plan on moving there eventually anyway, and they are not asking for rent yet, just for you to sign the lease, wouldn't this be the path of least resistance?

    I know it seems cold blooded to put the cat out of its misery now - but kitty has a terminal prognosis anyway, what is the point of prolonging the agony? I'd feel the same way if it was a human. I have seen too many people suffer needlessly in their last days from chemo, etc., and die anyway. What is the point? A few more months to be miserable?

    I hope you don't think I am cold and uncaring - it is just the opposite. I guess I really believe there is something far better than this at "RIP"...

    Give the kitty a hug from me.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    So sorry to hear of your friend's illness. It just doesn't seem fair that when something like this happens there is always some dickhead around to compound the situation.

    I'd try to get my money back legally - sure wouldn't want to live with people with that sort of mentality lording over me. That might give you indications how they are going to be to deal with in other matters - such as owning a pet on their premises.

    Pat is right - it's business. But taking the human factor out of business is what is bringing our whole nation to its knees now. Insist on humanity.
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  • Profile picture of the author KAINSMONEY
    Good luck with this , I also had a cat with cancer and we had to sacrifice her .
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