Doctor changes position on mary jane

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Sanjay Gupta changes his mind, says weed had medicinal value:

Sanjay Gupta Apologizes For 'Misleading' Public About Weed (VIDEO)

"I mistakenly believed the Drug Enforcement Agency listed marijuana as a schedule 1 substance because of sound scientific proof. Surely, they must have quality reasoning as to why marijuana is in the category of the most dangerous drugs that have "no accepted medicinal use and a high potential for abuse."

They didn't have the science to support that claim, and I now know that when it comes to marijuana neither of those things are true. It doesn't have a high potential for abuse, and there are very legitimate medical applications. In fact, sometimes marijuana is the only thing that works."
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      That was in the news a couple months ago - at least it shows someone actually thinks about an issue instead of simply parroting the same view over and over.

      To me, the issue over legalizing weed is overplayed. Each state can decide what the state's policy/law is and that will happen as the medical uses become apparent.. It's one of those issues people love to debate and argue about and I don't think it deserves the amount of attention it's getting.

      Let's face it - most people arguing for legalization aren't looking at medical benefits but at freedom to use a drug they enjoy.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Let's face it - most people arguing for legalization aren't looking at medical benefits but at freedom to use a drug they enjoy.
        Why shouldn't they have that freedom?
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      • Profile picture of the author Kurt
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        That was in the news a couple months ago - at least it shows someone actually thinks about an issue instead of simply parroting the same view over and over.
        Which is funny, because if you watched the documentary you'd have seen that Gupta changed his mind after he admitted he pretty much "parroted" the DEA's info for many years, saying he took it at face value.

        To me, the issue over legalizing weed is overplayed. Each state can decide what the state's policy/law is and that will happen as the medical uses become apparent.. It's one of those issues people love to debate and argue about and I don't think it deserves the amount of attention it's getting.
        IMO, it deserves more attention than it's getting. First, for the first time in history a majority of people (58%) in the US believe it should be legalized.

        Second, states legalizing MJ isn't that simplistic. For example, while it's now legal in Colorado, it's still against federal law. And this means that banks won't take money that comes from legal pot sales due to "money laundering" laws.

        This is forcing MJ dispencaries, and soon retail shops, to be "cash only", unable to use the banking system. This not only puts the MJ shops in more danger of being robbed, it also makes it harder for the gov to collect taxes, track inventory, etc.

        And, the Fed's response to the states' with legal MJ to basically leave them alone could change when the Admin changes.

        Let's face it - most people arguing for legalization aren't looking at medical benefits but at freedom to use a drug they enjoy.
        Some of us argue for legalization because of both MJ's legal benefits and its "side effects", as well as the burdon it puts on our legal system and the number of lives of young people this has ruined.
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Darnit, l thought that this was going to be a Doctor Who, thread?

          Although Sara Jane was the Doctors companion, 100 years ago!


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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by Kurt View Post

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          Some of us argue for legalization because of both MJ's legal benefits and its "side effects", as well as the burdon it puts on our legal system and the number of lives of young people this has ruined.

          I am for legalization for similar reasons, I think. I don't believe that MJ is harmless (Smoking lowers IQ?), but it does offer medical benefits and an impressive range of other uses. It's legalization would help put an end to the ugly and gruesomely violent organized crime related to its trafficking. Also, it is totally ridiculous to destroy lives with harsh legal punishment merely for possessing the stuff or growing a few plants.
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            I am for legalization for similar reasons, I think. I don't believe that MJ is harmless (Smoking lowers IQ?), but it does offer medical benefits and an impressive range of other uses. It's legalization would help put an end to the ugly and gruesomely violent organized crime related to its trafficking. Also, it is totally ridiculous to destroy lives with harsh legal punishment merely for possessing the stuff or growing a few plants.
            Good post, T-bird.

            These are all among my reasons for being pro-legalization, too.

            I'm also too logical, evidence-influenced and scientific to imagine that it's "harmless", obviously (that's just "silly"), but I'm still in favor of legalization anyway.

            If either nicotine or alcohol were recent discoveries being researched now, it seems to me that there's almost no possibility at all that either would be given a product licence in any Western country.
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            • Profile picture of the author mrozlat
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Good post, T-bird.

              If either nicotine or alcohol were recent discoveries being researched now, it seems to me that there's almost no possibility at all that either would be given a product licence in any Western country.
              hahaha pure comedy genius
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          • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            It's legalization would help put an end to the ugly and gruesomely violent organized crime related to its trafficking..
            I'm not sure many serious organized crime rings are going to have all their stocks banked in cannabis. I'd assume it to be a sideline which they are more than prepared to ditch in their forecast of legalization.
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            • Profile picture of the author Steven Wagenheim
              Doctor changes position on Mary Jane. Hmmm.

              Does Peter Parker know that he's now doing her from the rear?

              Just curious. :confused:
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              • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
                Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

                Doctor changes position on Mary Jane. Hmmm.

                Does Peter Parker know that he's now doing her from the rear?

                Just curious. :confused:
                My first thought, reading the title to this thread was...

                "Who is this Mary Jane, and why is a doctor on her in the first place, and what does she find uncomfortable about the position they are in?"

                Giggety.

                And all this talk about "cannabis"? I think it's deplorable....and certainly should be illegal. Eating other people is disgusting, and should be outlawed. Cannabisism indeed!
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            • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
              Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

              I'm not sure many serious organized crime rings are going to have all their stocks banked in cannabis. I'd assume it to be a sideline which they are more than prepared to ditch in their forecast of legalization.
              Your assumption is incorrect. Mexican organized crime is associated with marijuana big time.
              How Legalizing Marijuana Would Weaken Mexican Drug Cartels
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          • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            I am for legalization for similar reasons, I think. I don't believe that MJ is harmless (Smoking lowers IQ?), but it does offer medical benefits and an impressive range of other uses. It's legalization would help put an end to the ugly and gruesomely violent organized crime related to its trafficking. Also, it is totally ridiculous to destroy lives with harsh legal punishment merely for possessing the stuff or growing a few plants.
            Funny how legal authorities and people who don't want to legalize will talk about these "dangers" when Tylenol has more dangerous side effects after long term usage. Not to mention the countless other prescribed drugs whose side effects include death

            This is a total money issue. I guess there's more money in incarceration, etc. than there is in taxes from legal MJ sales.
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            • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
              Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

              Funny how legal authorities and people who don't want to legalize will talk about these "dangers" when Tylenol has more dangerous side effects after long term usage. Not to mention the countless other prescribed drugs whose side effects include death

              This is a total money issue. I guess there's more money in incarceration, etc. than there is in taxes from legal MJ sales.
              When politicians take on irrational stances supposedly on ideological grounds (usually a bogus fabrication), following the money often explains the real reason.

              Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim View Post

              Doctor changes position on Mary Jane. Hmmm.

              Does Peter Parker know that he's now doing her from the rear?

              Just curious. :confused:
              I was thinking something like that myself, but didn't post it, lol. I love how English words can have so many alternate meanings.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Oh seriously - why does anyone think something like this is illegal? $$$$ talks louder than common sense or decency in this cesspool and it will until corporation ownership of our gov and visa versa becomes illegal.
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