Shall We Keep Killing Animals For The Sake Of Our Taste

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lcombs

11 years ago

Uh... it's in the Bible.

But, that not withstanding, Humans are by nature and physiology, omnivores.
Studies have shown that a vegan diet is not as healthy as a diet that includes meat. Red meat in particular.

To say nothing of the fact that animals are sooo damn tasty!:p

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by lcombs

Uh... it's in the Bible.

But, that not withstanding, Humans are by nature and physiology, omnivores.
Studies have shown that a vegan diet is not as healthy as a diet that includes meat. Red meat in particular.

To say nothing of the fact that animals are sooo damn tasty!:p

Actually - the first Christians were vegetarian. The religion was completely edited and changed since its inception. Books thrown out, passages edited.

Humans are meat eaters - we need some of the amino acids that we can only get from meat. Factory farms, on the other hand, are an abomination and should not be tolerated. Torture of animals, degradation of environment. Poison to the body.

While I will never be vegetarian, I refuse to buy factory farm meat. There is not one thing about those places that is right or good. If you think it's okay to torture just because it's not human, you are one mentally ill piece of crap and we should cage you, too.

When you have to have that amount of torture to feed people, it's time to realize that we are eating way too much of the protein in the first place. Meat should only be eaten every couple of days - not every damned meal. If we are so over-populated that it takes mass torture to keep fed, we need to discover birth control and sterilization. We're way over carrying capacity at the point of factory farms.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

As far as I'm concerned, if we can chew it and digest it, we have the "right" to eat it.

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ThomM

11 years ago

First let me say I'm against factory farms of any type. I am especially against the way the animals in those farms are treated.
But yes I have no problem eating animals.
Look at it like this. What would happen to the animals on farms if no one ate meat anymore. The farmers certainly aren't going to continue raising them. Maybe a few cows and chickens and maybe goats for eggs and milk, but that's about it.
The other animals would most likely be left on their own. It time disease and starvation would take their toll. So instead of leading a comfortable life up till their death they would lead a life of sickness and hardships causing their death.
Same pretty much goes for wildlife. Animals like deer, turkey, geese, etc. would out populate their habitat again causing disease and starvation. Also the predator population would increase. I think getting shot is a little less painful then getting ripped to shreds. The increased predator population would eventually run low on their natural foods and would turn to domestic animals (in some cases humans) for a new food source.

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Doran Peck

11 years ago

....So maybe we should tell the birds to stop eating the innocent helpless insects? or the whales to stop swallowing the innocent helpless shrimp?

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ThomM

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Doran Peck

....So maybe we should tell the birds to stop eating the innocent helpless insects? or the whales to stop swallowing the innocent helpless shrimp?

That would work for me, poor innocent little shrimpies

Besides more for me

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lcombs 11 years ago

Originally Posted by ThomM

That would work for me, poor innocent little shrimpies
Besides more for me

LOVE me some Shrimpies!

with plenty of cocktail sauce.

(But, I thought Whales ate mostly plankton.:confused
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  Originally Posted by lcombs
  
  LOVE me some Shrimpies!
  
  with plenty of cocktail sauce.
  
  (But, I thought Whales ate mostly plankton.:confused
  
  They do, I just get all excited when eating shrimp is mentioned
  
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- seasoned 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by lcombs
  
  LOVE me some Shrimpies!
  
  with plenty of cocktail sauce.
  
  (But, I thought Whales ate mostly plankton.:confused
  
  Whales may eat almost anything.
  
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Cruelty to animals is evil,, in my opinion.

Now that I have that off my chest, I love steak. I love chicken. I love fish.
The only reason salads were invented is that there wasn't enough meat to go around.

Every animal eats another living thing. Even plants are living. Our teeth and digestive system are adapted to eating and digesting meat. Don't blame me, it wasn't my design.

And lets be honest. These animals deserve to die. Sure, some are cute...but they are just waiting...waiting for their chance to subjugate the human race and become the dominate species. Except chickens. Chickens are too stupid. The other animals make fun of them and shun them in public.

So, I say lets get rid of this threat! Sure...sure...we'll put them on trial first..make it all nice and legal like...but then they get what's coming to them.

Starting with the fish. They have no defense. They have no arms or legs, and they can't testify against us. And then.....shrimp (they hate being called that!)

The only way we can kill cows is by lying to them and telling them they are on the way to the park....after all, they are bigger than we are.

OK, that was a joke, But the OP asked a stupid question. (In my opinion)

We are the only animal on the planet that isn't eaten by another animal.

And that's only because the Zombie Apocalypse hasn't happened yet (Next Thursday, the Prophesy)

Sorry, I just can't take this seriously at all.

Added later for Full Disclosure; This post is a joke. I do not think animals are planning against us. I do not think there is going to be a Zombie Apocalypse....unless....what have you heard?

Originally Posted by seasoned

OK, WHERE are you REALLY from? I believe spain is mostly CATHOLIC! The CIA says 94% are! MOST of the remaining 6% are likely protestant, and most of the others are probably JEWISH. The Catholic/protestant Bible is based on, and includes, the old testament which is basically the JEWISH Bible. And it talks a LOT about CLEAN(AKA KOSHER) animals. In the story of CAIN and ABLE, god was said to honor ABLE's ANIMAL sacrifice!

I can't speak to muslims, but THEY obviously eat meat ALSO! Even many HINDUs do though most of THEM are likely vegetarian to some degree and many are vegetarian in the way usually understood in the US.

BTW I forgot to mention. The idea of 2 animals per in noahs arc is a MYTH! The bible says that KOSHER animals were to go in in 7s! and noahs family ATE some of them. Jewish people generally see kosher as meaning (GOOD TO EAT).

BTW in the US, MANY vegetarians eat fish and eggs.

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Yeah! So There! Take THAT!

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Steven Wagenheim

11 years ago

The alternative is the end of our world. I won't go into all the details as to why
because as another poster said, I can't take this seriously.

Yes, it's not only right, it's necessary.

Sorry if you don't agree.

Tell me, what do YOU live on?

Or are you just planning to die soon out of guilt?

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Nate Simms

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

The alternative is the end of our world. I won't go into all the details as to why
because as another poster said, I can't take this seriously.

Yes, it's not only right, it's necessary.

Sorry if you don't agree.

Tell me, what do YOU live on?

Or are you just planning to die soon out of guilt?

I've been a vegan for over five years now ... and I am still alive.

It most certainly is not "necessary." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not sure what you think you are spouting on about here.

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Well, don't you think it is more humane to kill them first rather than eat them alive?

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

I've been a vegan for over five years now ... and I am still alive.

It most certainly is not "necessary." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not sure what you think you are spouting on about here.

Well, mat is one of the most nutrient dense things around. If all the meat eaters became vegitarian, we might need 3-4 times as many vegetables, AT LEAST! ALSO, ranches would have to convert to farms, and cattle would have to be reduced.

Don't go telling me about india and china. They use FAR more land for farms, and about 40% of the starving population is in INDIA! From what I understand, there are a lot of starving people in China also!

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Nate Simms

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

Well, mat is one of the most nutrient dense things around. If all the meat eaters became vegitarian, we might need 3-4 times as many vegetables, AT LEAST! ALSO, ranches would have to convert to farms, and cattle would have to be reduced.

Don't go telling me about india and china. They use FAR more land for farms, and about 40% of the starving population is in INDIA! From what I understand, there are a lot of starving people in China also!

Steve

Thanks for the random tirade, I think?

... but, to insinuate that vegetarians/vegans are going to "die out" from a lack of meat, as Mozart above said, is plain dumb.

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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

Thanks for the random tirade, I think?

... but, to insinuate that vegetarians/vegans are going to "die out" from a lack of meat, as Mozart above said, is plain dumb.

I did NOT say they would die out! I have known MANY that were healthy, etc... though I HAVE known some rich malnourished ones! My POINT was that animals would die ANYWAY, and we would need even MORE crops! You can't just ABANDON meat and do nothing else!

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

I did NOT say they would die out! I have known MANY that were healthy, etc... though I HAVE known some rich malnourished ones! My POINT was that animals would die ANYWAY,

That statement is absolutely true. I was explaining to my wife that she was going to eventually die anyway, so eating her was completely justified. She couldn't find a kink in my logic. Check and Mate

Originally Posted by seasoned

You can't just ABANDON meat and do nothing else!

Steve

I agree, if you are not going to eat meat, for Heaven sake! Eat Something!

I feel like I made a real contribution here.

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

That statement is absolutely true. I was explaining to my wife that she was going to eventually die anyway, so eating her was completely justified. She couldn't find a kink in my logic. Check and Mate

You forgot to sign your post with Claude "The Cannibal" Whitacre

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

You forgot to sign your post with Claude "The Cannibal" Whitacre

:p

You know what's funny (to me, anyway)? I had a dream last night that I went to an upscale restaruant and they were serving human flesh. It was the newest delicacy. Reluctantly, I tried it. Thankfully, I didn't like it. AND Claude may or may not have been my waiter. I'm not sure. It's a little fuzzy. The waiter was balding and laughed at all his own jokes.

I blame that dream solely on this thread as I was going to make a cannibalism joke but it just didn't have the zip I wanted.

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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

You know what's funny (to me, anyway)? I had a dream last night that I went to an upscale restaruant and they were serving human flesh. It was the newest delicacy. Reluctantly, I tried it. Thankfully, I didn't like it. AND Claude may or may not have been my waiter. I'm not sure. It's a little fuzzy. The waiter was balding and laughed at all his own jokes.

I blame that dream solely on this thread as I was going to make a cannibalism joke but it just didn't have the zip I wanted.

As in zip seasoning sauce?

Terra

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

As in zip seasoning sauce?

Terra

There are so many ways to respond to this, but this is a family show.

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Steven Wagenheim

11 years ago

Did somebody say something about eating wives? :confused:

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Did somebody say something about eating wives? :confused:

Easy, Steve. We're trying to keep this PG-13.

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Steven Wagenheim

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Easy, Steve. We're trying to keep this PG-13.

Hey, he started it.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

Hey, he started it.

That's the funniest thing you've said in a while. I'm glad to see you're coming out of your funk.

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Steven Wagenheim

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

That's the funniest thing you've said in a while. I'm glad to see you're coming out of your funk.

I'm getting my Cubase 7 in the mail today so I'll be starting my new Royalty
Free Music Business (shameless plug there) so that all my marketing friends can
get quality music for the videos (another shameless plug there) and make lots
of money because their videos are so great. (an over the top shameless
whatever you want to call it)

I haven't lost it yet.

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I'm getting my Cubase 7 in the mail today so I'll be starting my new Royalty
Free Music Business (shameless plug there) so that all my marketing friends can
get quality music for the videos (another shameless plug there) and make lots
of money because their videos are so great. (an over the top shameless
whatever you want to call it)

I haven't lost it yet.

Terrific. I hope the post office actually delivers this time.

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Steven Wagenheim 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Terrific. I hope the post office actually delivers this time.

Oh it's out for delivery from MY post office so it's definitely coming today. In
the meantime, the package I am waiting for from Kearny is still sitting there
since the 21st of this month. That one is in some corner somewhere.
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MissTerraK

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

I'm getting my Cubase 7 in the mail today so I'll be starting my new Royalty
Free Music Business (shameless plug there) so that all my marketing friends can
get quality music for the videos (another shameless plug there) and make lots
of money because their videos are so great. (an over the top shameless
whatever you want to call it)

I haven't lost it yet.

Hurray!

(shameless cheerleading for a friend here)

Terra

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

There are so many ways to respond to this, but this is a family show.

Ha!

I'm so proud of you for not going there.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

You know what's funny (to me, anyway)? I had a dream last night that I went to an upscale restaruant and they were serving human flesh. It was the newest delicacy. Reluctantly, I tried it. Thankfully, I didn't like it. AND Claude may or may not have been my waiter. I'm not sure. It's a little fuzzy. The waiter was balding and laughed at all his own jokes.

I blame that dream solely on this thread as I was going to make a cannibalism joke but it just didn't have the zip I wanted.

I remember that dream. I was your waiter. I remember you didn't leave a tip. Next time, leave a tip.

And all my jokes are incredibly funny. :rolleyes:

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Dan Riffle

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I remember that dream. I was your waiter. I remember you didn't leave a tip. Next time, leave a tip.

And all my jokes are incredibly funny. :rolleyes:

I slipped that part in there just to dig at ya.

As far as serving humans, I'm not leaving the tip or anything else.

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Kurt

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I slipped that part in there just to dig at ya.

As far as serving humans, I'm not leaving the tip or anything else.

It's a cookbook!

(OK, who gets that reference?)

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Steven Wagenheim 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

It's a cookbook!

(OK, who gets that reference?)

Twilight Zone with Orson Wells
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

It's a cookbook!

(OK, who gets that reference?)

Old Outer Limits episode? I watched it. It may also be a Twilight Zone Plot.

But it sticks in my mind as The Outer Limits (One of the greatest opening of any TV show). "We control the horizontal. We control the vertical". When I was a kid, I believed it.

I just looked it up. Steven is right. It's a Twilight Zone episode.

He was right...I was..less right. (anyone know that dialog?)

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Alexa Smith Banned 11 years ago

The thread has improved dramatically since its OP, it must be said (it actually started improving with post #2, which made me hungry).

All it needs now is a quick visit from John McCabe's signature-file and we'll be all set, here.
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Steven Wagenheim

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Old Outer Limits episode? I watched it. It may also be a Twilight Zone Plot.

But it sticks in my mind as The Outer Limits (One of the greatest opening of any TV show). "We control the horizontal. We control the vertical". When I was a kid, I believed it.

I just looked it up. Steven is right. It's a Twilight Zone episode.

He was right...I was..less right. (anyone know that dialog?)

When it comes to stupid TV or Music Trivia, I'm rarely wrong.

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

I slipped that part in there just to dig at ya.

As far as serving humans, I'm not leaving the tip or anything else.

I got that. Teee Heee!
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seasoned

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

That statement is absolutely true. I was explaining to my wife that she was going to eventually die anyway, so eating her was completely justified. She couldn't find a kink in my logic. Check and Mate

I agree, if you are not going to eat meat, for Heaven sake! Eat Something!

I feel like I made a real contribution here.

SHEESH! I MEANT that they can't be fed, and take up space, so they will likely just be sold as meat, EVEN if all became vegetarians!

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

SHEESH! I MEANT that they can't be fed, and take up space, so they will likely just be sold as meat, EVEN if all became vegetarians!

Steve

So, if everyone is a vegetarian...these animals will still be sold as meat? To who? Zombies?

the Zombie meat eater Apocalypse is upon us.

Steve; I'm just joking with you, but you leave yourself wide open, man.
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Brokep 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Doran Peck

....So maybe we should tell the birds to stop eating the innocent helpless insects? or the whales to stop swallowing the innocent helpless shrimp?

Loled at this.. Hahah

Man kind has to eat meat in order to stay healthy thats has been prooved several times so yeah we have to or at least some species..
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11 years ago

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by hbhanot

I don't know if in any religious book
it is said kill animals and then eat them.

Do you think we have right to kill those
innocent creatures, who also are like us.
They can't even say or stop you. They
can not express they are in pain when humans
slaughters them.

Do you think people who demand animal
for their food are right?

I don't know what name humans.

OK, WHERE are you REALLY from? I believe spain is mostly CATHOLIC! The CIA says 94% are! MOST of the remaining 6% are likely protestant, and most of the others are probably JEWISH. The Catholic/protestant Bible is based on, and includes, the old testament which is basically the JEWISH Bible. And it talks a LOT about CLEAN(AKA KOSHER) animals. In the story of CAIN and ABLE, god was said to honor ABLE's ANIMAL sacrifice!

I can't speak to muslims, but THEY obviously eat meat ALSO! Even many HINDUs do though most of THEM are likely vegetarian to some degree and many are vegetarian in the way usually understood in the US.

BTW I forgot to mention. The idea of 2 animals per in noahs arc is a MYTH! The bible says that KOSHER animals were to go in in 7s! and noahs family ATE some of them. Jewish people generally see kosher as meaning (GOOD TO EAT).

BTW in the US, MANY vegetarians eat fish and eggs.

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ronrule

11 years ago

Do you know how many innocent plants had to die to make your salad?!

Animals create CO2 which according to the "experts" is the cause of global warming, with cows being among the worst offenders. Meanwhile plants convert that CO2 into oxygen. And you want to destroy THEM?

Save the planet, eat a steak.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ronrule

Do you know how many innocent plants had to die to make your salad?!

Animals create CO2 which according to the "experts" is the cause of global warming, with cows being among the worst offenders. Meanwhile plants convert that CO2 into oxygen. And you want to destroy THEM?

Save the planet, eat a steak.

Damn you, Rule! This is funnier than what I said. Revenge will be mine!

Originally Posted by Nate Simms

I've been a vegan for over five years now ... and I am still alive.

It most certainly is not "necessary." :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Not sure what you think you are spouting on about here.

Of course, you can thrive as a vegan. I was under the impression that we were all joking around here. Don't anger Steve. He spent three years living under a bridge eating nothing but Three Billy Goats Gruff.

Disclosure; Norwegian fairy tale humor is tricky. I hope everyone gets it.

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Cool Hand Luke

11 years ago

Originally Posted by hbhanot

I don't know if in any religious book
it is said kill animals and then eat them.

Do you think we have right to kill those
innocent creatures, who also are like us.
They can't even say or stop you. They
can not express they are in pain when humans
slaughters them.

Do you think people who demand animal
for their food are right?

I don't know what name humans.

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Originally Posted by Cool Hand Luke

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alistair

11 years ago

I think yes we do have the right to eat them, but I don't think we have the right to mistreat and abuse them. Unfortunately animals don't talk but money does.

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ronrule

11 years ago

I bet there's a market for a restaurant that only served endangered species.

Of course, to do this someone would have to raise them like livestock - thus making them no longer endangered. Another win for mother earth!

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by ronrule

I bet there's a market for a restaurant that only served endangered species.

Of course, to do this someone would have to raise them like livestock - thus making them no longer endangered. Another win for mother earth!

Ron; Your post makes no sense. Why would an endangered species go into a restaurant and order food anyway? Aren't the going to avoid restaurants....and people...and guns...as much as possible?

And why is it any of your business how these poor animals are raised? Isn't that their parent's concern?

I'm worried about you.

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Kurt

11 years ago

I promise that I'll only eat animals that taste good with cheese, BBQ sauce and/or gravy.

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Sarevok

11 years ago

You know how I like my steak cooked?

With a flashlight.

And with some frank's red hot.

Oh yeah baby.

PS: It's unfortunate that we support wanton slaughter of animals.

We're only humans.. Living on a planet.

What goes around comes around.

Let's see how long we last?

But... In the meantime.. Pass me that porterhouse.

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