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Twerking to The Bank

by goindeep
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Haters gonna hate.

The reality is that Miley Cyrus is simply re-branding herself from a cute kid to a grown woman who does whatever she wants.

Miley is still trending everywhere and i am willing to bet her record will sell through the roof and that we will see all sorts of collaborations and appearances.
  • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
    So being raunchy is necessary to rebrand herself as grown up? Since when is that necessary? If that's true, I don't ever want to grow up.

    In any event, we seem to have a pretty much anything you choose is okay now kind of thinking already instilled in society, so where's the shock value? I doubt older people who could be shocked are bothering to watch her and she's definitely a bad example for the younger generation.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

      So being raunchy is necessary to rebrand herself as grown up? <snip>
      That's part of it. To generate even more publicity a sex-tape will need to be released. It'll have to appear like it was done without her knowledge, with behind-the-scenes profit-sharing deals obfuscated (see P.H. or K.K.).

      I'm not personally upset or shocked by Miley Cyrus's on-stage shenanigans. It's not like she was being violent or abusive, neglecting puppies, or something that is criminally insane. Yeah, she was getting publicity, probably positioning herself for her target markets (who apparently don't care so much about such minor factors as being off-pitch or whatever)
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by AprilCT View Post

      So being raunchy is necessary to rebrand herself as grown up? Since when is that necessary? If that's true, I don't ever want to grow up.

      In any event, we seem to have a pretty much anything you choose is okay now kind of thinking already instilled in society, so where's the shock value? I doubt older people who could be shocked are bothering to watch her and she's definitely a bad example for the younger generation.
      Like I said, haters gonna hate...

      She's an entertainer, a dancer and a singer.... she just shook her money maker and is now cashing cheques!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
        Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

        Like I said, haters gonna hate...
        No, it's not haters gonna hate. It's just that looking like a slut isn't something we generally like, although some people seem to have no problem with it.

        Nobody has a problem with Paul McCartney (or at least, few have), and he has more money than Cyrus will ever have. Is it just remotely possible that McCartney's success is because of his talent and hard work, and not because he shakes his ass in vulgar ways?
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

        ...

        She's an entertainer, a dancer and a singer....

        That's debatable!

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      • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
        Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

        Like I said, haters gonna hate...

        She's an entertainer, a dancer and a singer.... she just shook her money maker and is now cashing cheques!

        You made a big error by thinking I hate. I'm quite grown up enough to recognize her as stupid when I see it, even more stupid than those who have enabled her for going along with it.

        She's still a young kid and is acting like a total jerk. A real grown up knows that money is not the be all or end all in life. It's too bad she's so willing to disrespect not only her own self, but her equally mislead viewers and fans for the sake of a dollar or parting with money to watch.

        But again, where is the shock value in what she's doing? You ought to address the where's the shock value part of my other post.

        It's not like she's the first bimbo (either a gal or a guy) to pull these stunts.
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        • Profile picture of the author AeroBuilders
          Anthony Robbins once said that you will never lose in life when you RAISE YOUR STANDARDS. I have always seen that important reality to be exactly true in real life. Miley is dumpster diving with her new accepted standards....probably will not end well!
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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          That reminds me of our cat trying to clean the back of her shoulder. :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    I only rarely watch TV. I didn't even know what twerking was, so I had to Google it to find out. That turned up a video clip of her twerking I think at some MTV show or something. I must say, that's the most unimpressed I've been with an "entertainer" in a long time.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      I only rarely watch TV. I didn't even know what twerking was, so I had to Google it to find out. That turned up a video clip of her twerking I think at some MTV show or something. I must say, that's the most unimpressed I've been with an "entertainer" in a long time.
      I guess a singer can be forgiven for a lot. Gyrations and whatnot, please, that was already happening on stage in the last century. For me, the biggest sin is being chronically off-pitch. And I give a lot of slack before the line is crossed. I'm not perfect pitch so if I pick it up, there's a serious problem there. "in tune strippers," I can handle. "Pitchy strippers," no (unless the volume is off).
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        I guess a singer can be forgiven for a lot. Gyrations and whatnot, please, that was already happening on stage in the last century. For me, the biggest sin is being chronically off-pitch. And I give a lot of slack before the line is crossed. I'm not perfect pitch so if I pick it up, there's a serious problem there. "in tune strippers," I can handle. "Pitchy strippers," no (unless the volume is off).
        I wasn't specifically referring to the twerking when I said I was unimpressed. It was the whole act. And what's up with that mouth wide open and sticking her tongue out as far as she can? She looked like an idiot.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

          The reality is that Miley Cyrus is simply re-branding herself from a cute kid to a grown woman who does whatever she wants.
          It's the word "simply" that makes this statement not quite right, I think, isn't it?

          Clearly she's re-branding herself from a cute kid to a grown woman who does whatever she wants (and I can understand that principle and even identify with it, to some extent), but she's far from "simply" doing that: she's choosing to do it in a specific, extreme-minority way which many people find obnoxious and objectionable.

          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          what's up with that mouth wide open and sticking her tongue out as far as she can? She looked like an idiot.
          I agree. Maybe she even is one? I suspect she's either far less mature than she's pretending to be or she's been given some truly dreadful marketing advice which can only damage her career and embarrass her in the long run (oops, sorry, not supposed to mention the m-word in this part of the forum, are we?).
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          • Profile picture of the author goindeep
            Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

            she's choosing to do it in a specific, extreme-minority way which many people find obnoxious and objectionable.
            If you say that about this topic and your farely young I wonder what the older conservative types think of posing in a bikini on web forum? Same category?
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            • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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              Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

              If you say that about this topic and your farely young
              Fairly, yes: admittedly I'm 3 years older than Miley Cyrus, which was why I said I identify "to some extent" on that score. I can remember being 20.

              Originally Posted by goindeep View Post

              I wonder what the older conservative types think of posing in a bikini on web forum? Same category?
              No, not at all: I suspect that the few who might be interested enough to notice are all also perceptive enough (in contrast to yourself, evidently) to appreciate that a stylized, silhouette, artifcially-colored avatar design used on the internet, albeit based on an original photo of myself, is very far removed indeed from "posing/performing live" in the way that Miley Cyrus did. Indeed, what you've said here, for whatever reason best known to yourself, seems so bizarre that I'd like to think that if you re-assess it rationally for a moment, yourself, even you might actually manage to see that, too. But if not, I suggest that you keep it to yourself, anyway, because this is certainly no place for personal comments about your fellow-members.
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    Wow!In Hollywood in order to get attention and to reestablish your career...self distraction is permitted!
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Piss poor gal.

    If she manages to make even more money AFTER that crap, God help us all.

    Run to the hills!
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I don't know what happened to my account. Seems like someone got into it and made it look like I was replying to myself. Very odd. Anyway, that mascot comment was meant to be a joke. The whole performance was a joke. The public outrage was a bigger joke. Wish there was similar outrage over wrongs that directly impact folks lives.

    So, who hacked into my account? How was it done?
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      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      I don't know what happened to my account. Seems like someone got into it and made it look like I was replying to myself. Very odd. Anyway, that mascot comment was meant to be a joke. The whole performance was a joke. The public outrage was a bigger joke. Wish there was similar outrage over wrongs that directly impact folks lives.

      So, who hacked into my account? How was it done?
      Not me, I would have done a lot more damage.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    I thought only gay men and elementary school girls cared about what miley cyrus did.
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    • Profile picture of the author goindeep
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      I thought only gay men and elementary school girls cared about what miley cyrus did.
      Hahaha lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Forget Miley Cyrus!

        I want to know what the heck is wrong with Alan Thicke? He supports his son being a part of that soft porn crap!

        If Robin were my son, I'd march up on stage, grab him by his ear and pull him off!

        Okay, that would only happen in my mind's eye, but still... :p

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        • Profile picture of the author Kay King
          The real question is why Molly Cyrus would be a feature act to begin with. Thicke has talent but is very rough around the edges so his participation is not surprising.

          What's funny is showing this clip over and over as "news". Who cares? Cyrus is an ex-teen sensation without the talent to transition to diva.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Well it's no secret that lack of talent pays very well .... Paris Hilton, Kim Kardashian and the whole Kardashian crew, Justin Bieber (IMO), Miley Cyrus, and the list goes on and on. I saw some of the video and thought that she is neither a dancer, a singer or an entertainer. Just another untalented twit that sticks her butt out, and her gross looking tongue out, wiggles them and makes news and bank doing it. lol.

    I'd try it myself but doubt that the results would be the same.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Glad to see there is far less slut-shaming here on the WF than there
    is on the rest of the Internet. I knew there was a reason I love you
    people!

    As for the marketing/branding, it's an interesting idea. The simple
    fact is that I may be disgusted by her performance with Beetlejuice,
    but I'm certainly not her target market, either-- I was never going
    to buy anything from her anyway, whether she was a Disney Princess
    or the next Madonna. That's probably true for most people who
    are "disgusted" by her "performance" at the VMAs.

    Another interesting point is her lack of attractiveness in the public eye.
    So many people are slamming her because she was ugly, not all in the
    "right" proportions and sticking her tongue out like a giraffe. I can't help
    but wonder that if she had been dressed slightly differently and kept her
    tongue in her mouth, or used it in a more seductive manner, would people
    still be bitching about the re-branding? Or would most of them be
    talking about how "hot" she was?

    Marketing is a funny thing. I've seen so many fantastic products and
    services fail, and so many crappy ones succeed, even within my own
    businesses... I must be getting old, because it seems like the more that
    I learn, the less I know.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      I can't help
      but wonder that if she had been dressed slightly differently and kept her
      tongue in her mouth, or used it in a more seductive manner, would people
      still be bitching about the re-branding? Or would most of them be
      talking about how "hot" she was?
      Probably the second choice. But to dress slightly different, keep the tongue in her mouth or not to mention, use it in a more seductive way, would require some refinement (which is cultivated in time, not inherited) and respect for her image and her public. And not to mention patience to achieve financial success and not a willingness to resort to all kind of gimmicks.

      All of these are virtues miss Cyrus probably doesn't possess.

      However, there's also a slight chance that she does possess them, but her target audience doesn't. In this case, I don't know which is worse: catering to a bunch of people who find shaking an ass in uncontrollable ways irresistible, or agreeing with it and thinking it's actually "cool" do it.
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      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      and sticking her tongue out like a giraffe.
      LOL!

      What an apt comparison!




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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

        LOL!

        What an apt comparison!




        Terra
        lol ... seeing these pics of her I can't help but think how ugly she is. I guess vulgar antics are all she has to work with. I'm certain that she thinks she will be the next Madonna, Britney Spears or Lady GaGA.
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        • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          I'm certain that she thinks she will be the next Madonna, Britney Spears or Lady GaGA.
          I imagine she thinks so, yes. I rather doubt it myself, though. And if it doesn't work out for her, exactly as she wants it to, the first time, then she may actually have done her future prospects considerable damage, I suspect.
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          • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
            I can think of so many extremely successful female entertainers who never ever had to resort to such tasteless antics to get attention and fame -

            but whatever - to each their own, I suppose.

            just as an aside - we live in a society where mediocrity is embraced - look how we are constantly bombarded with the faces of many no-talent so-called celebrities.

            Meanwhile, the really talented geniuses fade into the background.
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          Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

          lol ... seeing these pics of her I can't help but think how ugly she is. I guess vulgar antics are all she has to work with. I'm certain that she thinks she will be the next Madonna, Britney Spears or Lady GaGA.
          YEAH, she USED to be cute! And NOW? YEECH! I mean LOOK at this:

          https://www.google.com/#psj=1&q=miley+cyrus+pictures

          Short hair done up in what have been described as "horns" is supposed to be an IMPROVEMENT? Sorry Miley, it ISN'T! some people would have KILLED to be where she was. RESPECTED, LOVED, RICH, FAMOUS.

          I'm shocked her father doesn't care. HER sales, and her FATHER'S sales may suffer.

          As for SHORT TERM? YEAH, disaster means sales. It happened at fukoshima ALSO!

          BTW it is ironic. She is ANOTHER star that became famous through Disney.

          Oh well, at least she didn't go there NAKED!

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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          [QUOTE=sbucciarel;8451823]lol ... seeing these pics of her I can't help but think how ugly she is. I guess vulgar antics are all she has to work with. <snip>/QUOTE]

          She's not ugly, whatever she is. Whatever she was thinking, she did a sort of reverse makeover on herself. Now, chatter has gone from calling her "pretty" to everything but.

          Before:


          After:

          (Gives a whole new meaning to "rolling in the hay".)

          UPDATE: My 3-year-old just saw the below pic and demanded, "Turn that off! I'm scared of witches. Yeah, I guess it's not family fare. I didn't intend for him to see it. Shouldn't "L" word tongue flicks be done behind closed doors in in cabarets? Yikes.
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            Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

            lol ... seeing these pics of her I can't help but think how ugly she is. I guess vulgar antics are all she has to work with. <snip>/QUOTE]

            She's not ugly, whatever she is. Whatever she was thinking, she did a sort of reverse makeover on herself. Now, chatter has gone from calling her "pretty" to everything but.

            Before:


            After:

            (Gives a whole new meaning to "rolling in the hay".)

            UPDATE: My 3-year-old just saw the below pic and demanded, "Turn that off! I'm scared of witches. Yeah, I guess it's not family fare. I didn't intend for him to see it. Shouldn't "L" word tongue flicks be done behind closed doors in in cabarets? Yikes.
            Yikes!

            Did she not even look in the mirror before she went onstage?

            The only way I would ever look like that was in my casket after my death with some mortician gone rogue as the one who prepped me.

            But the thing is, I wouldn't care then, because I'd be long gone.

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  • Profile picture of the author garyv
    Maybe I'm just getting too old, but it seemed to me like a promotion of pedophilia. I know she's an adult, but she looks about the same age as my 9 year old. And did anyone else notice all of the bears? They looked eerily like the pedo-bear.

    It just royally pissed me off to watch it. Just a few years ago she was being promoted as Hannah Montana to young kids on the Disney Channel, and now she's dancing around half naked on a stage full of pedo-bears singing lyrics like "We can screw who we want". This country has a bad enough problem with young girls being raped, and now we have to constantly wonder if the next Disney Princess is going to convince our young ones to behave like sluts. UGH it pisses me off just thinking about it.

    I've never laid a hand on my daughter, but if I ever saw her dancing like that, even at the age of 20 - I'd embarrass her in front of everyone with a good old-fashioned Politically incorrect buttwhoopn.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Maybe I'm just getting too old, but it seemed to me like a promotion of pedophilia. I know she's an adult, but she looks about the same age as my 9 year old. And did anyone else notice all of the bears? They looked eerily like the pedo-bear.

      It just royally pissed me off to watch it. Just a few years ago she was being promoted as Hannah Montana to young kids on the Disney Channel, and now she's dancing around half naked on a stage full of pedo-bears singing lyrics like "We can screw who we want". This country has a bad enough problem with young girls being raped, and now we have to constantly wonder if the next Disney Princess is going to convince our young ones to behave like sluts. UGH it pisses me off just thinking about it.

      I've never laid a hand on my daughter, but if I ever saw her dancing like that, even at the age of 20 - I'd embarrass her in front of everyone with a good old-fashioned Politically incorrect buttwhoopn.
      You sound just like my dad did.

      That's a compliment.

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    • Profile picture of the author Lucian Lada
      Originally Posted by garyv View Post

      Maybe I'm just getting too old, but it seemed to me like a promotion of pedophilia.
      And of zoophilia, too. At one point, a singing zebra was trying to do miss Cyrus from behind. Or was that Robin Thicke? I can't tell.

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        Originally Posted by Lucian Lada View Post

        When I first saw her performance on Youtube the next day, all I could think of was.....enthusiastic and willing sex toy at her first Eyes Wide Shut global elite party!



        LOL!
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  • Profile picture of the author natebunger
    Miley Cyrus is trying to tell the world she's a changed woman. I'm not a fan and surely, I was not impressed with what she did but it's the VMAs. They do everything they want on stage. Miley wants some attention and she's definitely getting it. She's even talked about in this forum.
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    Just so y'all know! 'Twerking' and 'selfie' added to Oxford dictionary
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    Love her or hate her..

    Miley is the most successful and prominent marketer on the planet.

    (This isn't about personal taste. This is about her causing 300,000 tweets per minute and breaking social media trending records). source

    Does it deserve to be on CNN and FOX when the world is on the brink of world war 3?

    No.

    But I recognize what she did.

    She got us talking. She got the world talking.

    She's the biggest troll on the planet. And controversy creates cash.

    #respect
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      Love her or hate her..

      Miley is the most successful and prominent marketer on the planet.

      (This isn't about personal taste. This is about her causing 300,000 tweets per minute and breaking social media trending records). source

      Does it deserve to be on CNN and FOX when the world is on the brink of world war 3?

      No.

      But I recognize what she did.

      She got us talking. She got the world talking.

      She's the biggest troll on the planet. And controversy creates cash.

      #respect
      The BEST marketer? what about the olsen twins?

      https://www.google.com/#psj=1&q=olsen+twins+2013

      27 years old, and they have STILL stayed within what families would be happy with! I don't think they have sung, but they have done a LOT of stuff.

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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      Love her or hate her..

      Miley is the most successful and prominent marketer on the planet.<snip>
      Most successful marketer on the planet? Get real. My mother would answer, "Who?" if I asked her what she thought of Miley Cyrus. Anyway, I don't hate her. I sort of like her. She actually strikes me as kind of nice. Silly but nice. Her singing skills are not the upper echelons of singers but she is probably on par with Britney Spears and Madonna as a singer. I'll reckon that Lady Gaga (one of KimW's favorites...NOT) is a better singer and performer overall. Miley Cyrus's performance was a bit of a train wreck --messy,sexually brazen, and off-pitch. Will this help her "branding" and marketablity? We'll see. Did Oprah's brand and marketablity take a nose-dive after she cut out the raunchy, shocking, and exploitative stuff?
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  • Profile picture of the author Sarevok
    I'm in the minority of this subject.. But what did she do that Britney, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Lady Gaga, or any other controversial performer hasn't done?

    Also.. This is the MTV music awards. Of course there's going to be egregious shenanigans.

    I'm not condoning Miley's performance.. But what do people expect from MTV? Are you really that shocked?

    This isn't the grammy's. This is MTV music awards; the central host of celebrity debauchery since Madonna did her "like a virgin" back in the day. And when Britney came out dancing on a pole.

    Am I saying that's a good thing? No. But it is what it is.

    I think the biggest outcry was from the parents who were expecting Miley to be a prominent role model for the youth of America.

    I get that. Totally understand it.

    But.. If I had kids.. I would be the one setting an example. I'd be the one emulating what an outstanding citizen should be.

    Not some fictitious character on TV.

    Know what I mean?

    I guess I'm the only one who's not shocked by MTV being MTV.

    And I don't believe for a minute Miley didn't know exactly what she was doing, and I believe she knew what the recourse would be.

    I think she's happy with the outcome.

    She wanted to troll. She wanted to make everyone say "what the heck". She wanted to break Twitter records. And she wanted to sell a million records.

    And I'm confident the result will equate to financial success for the performer.

    Maybe I'm wrong?

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    • Profile picture of the author Karen Blundell
      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post


      Maybe I'm wrong?
      no you are right - but that just reinforces what I said above - mediocrity is embraced - real talent isn't -

      I don't respect anyone who feels they have to debase themselves to garner attention. Rather, I feel sorry for them - because that kind of fame fizzles very quickly -
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      I'm in the minority of this subject.. But what did she do that Britney, Michael Jackson, Madonna, Lady Gaga, or any other controversial performer hasn't done?
      All of the above had/have talent that isn't evident in Miley Cyrus's performance. Lacking the talent to put on a great show, she resorted to "shock". Shock will only work for the short term. Talent endures.

      My comments are from an adult that didn't have any children sitting in front of the TV, so I don't care how vulgar her act was from my perspective. I saw the video of the performance and thought ...

      1. how lame
      2. man has she gotten ugly
      3. hmmm ... her singing and dancing are really mediocre

      Of course, a ridiculously ugly hair cut and hairstyle (along with the big ole ugly tongue sticking out of her mouth constantly) has a lot to do with the ugliness and that's fixable, but the talent still isn't there.

      Originally Posted by Sarevok View Post

      Also.. This is the MTV music awards. Of course there's going to be egregious shenanigans.

      I'm not condoning Miley's performance.. But what do people expect from MTV? Are you really that shocked?

      This isn't the grammy's. This is MTV music awards; the central host of celebrity debauchery since Madonna did her "like a virgin" back in the day. And when Britney came out dancing on a pole.
      I wasn't shocked. I'm an adult and have seen my share of raunch and truly shocking things. If for nothing else, to see Rush Limbaugh rant and rave, it was worth it. I just feel like she's a "waning star" that has little else going for her, so this is what she's coming up with to make news.

      News is fickle. She was in the news for 2 days for that performance. It's over now. She'll have to come up with yet another stunt to ride a Twitter wave or get in the news again. She's not a Michael Jackson, or Madonna, or Britney or Lady GaGa. Even if not my taste in music, I have to concede that all of the above have/had talent.
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  • Profile picture of the author DireStraits
    Just goes to show, eh? Until the Department of Health put out this poster, I was under the impression Miley cyrus was a good bacteria...


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  • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
    According to CelebrityNetWorth.com, Celine Dion is worth $400 million and Miley is worth $150 million. As far as I know (and I'm not a Celine expert), Celine has never done anything disgusting or distasteful and she demonstrates that you don't have to.

    At a more down to earth level, the dentist I was infatuated with in my twenties is the best example I personally have of what mature women should aspire to be. In a word, classy, strong, and possessing high integrity . (OK, four words.)

    In my opinion, Miley is not showing she is a grown up. She is showing the signs of being mishandled since childhood and mishandled now. I believe she is going to wreck - hope not - like Brittany Spears or Michael Jackson and should not be a role model for anybody.

    Howard Bloom was Michael Jackson's publicist up to the Monster album. He says that after that the unscrupulous manipulators got in the picture and then we saw the fiasco and tragedy of Michael's later years.

    If I were close to Miley, I would be gravely concerned and do all I could do to get her out of this unethical marketing circus.

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      According to CelebrityNetWorth.com, Celine Dion is worth $400 million and Miley is worth $150 million. As far as I know (and I'm not a Celine expert), Celine has never done anything disgusting or distasteful and she demonstrates that you don't have to.

      At a more down to earth level, the dentist I was infatuated with in my twenties is the best example I personally have of what mature women should aspire to be. In a word, classy, strong, and possessing high integrity . (OK, four words.)

      In my opinion, Miley is not showing she is a grown up. She is showing the signs of being mishandled since childhood and mishandled now. I believe she is going to wreck - hope not - like Brittany Spears or Michael Jackson and should not be a role model for anybody.

      Howard Bloom was Michael Jackson's publicist up to the Monster album. He says that after that the unscrupulous manipulators got in the picture and then we saw the fiasco and tragedy of Michael's later years.

      If I were close to Miley, I would be gravely concerned and do all I could do to get her out of this unethical marketing circus.

      Dan
      Check out FORBES: The 20 Richest Women In Entertainment - Forbes

      As much as I dislike some of them, I think about 18 of the top 20 did NOT go as far as miley did. Miley isn't even on the list, Madonna may be the FIRST to be OBSCENE, and she is only #4. britney may be the second, at number 12. The twins I mentioned are at #11.

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  • Profile picture of the author waterotter
    @Dan - Throw Justin Bieber into that mix too. He's on a one way track, headed the wrong way.
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    • Profile picture of the author bizgrower
      Originally Posted by waterotter View Post

      @Dan - Throw Justin Bieber into that mix too. He's on a one way track, headed the wrong way.
      Owwwww yeah.
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    Miley when shes feeling randy.







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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    ugh she looks like a female justin bieber. What a shame
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      OK - that's weird, Joseph. I had to look closely - the chain on the mid-section looked like she was stitched together
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  • Profile picture of the author Noctilus
    One thing though Miley and Justin ARE talented. Paris and Kardashians not so much.

    The way they allow themselves to be offered up to the "illuminati" or "elite" or whatever they are called is what is sickening. I agree with...

    Originally Posted by AeroBuilders View Post

    When I first saw her performance on Youtube the next day, all I could think of was.....enthusiastic and willing sex toy at her first Eyes Wide Shut global elite party!



    LOL!
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