If only I could work

Art, rather than rely upon someone trusting you, try providing actual proof that these methods do indeed work. Testimonials go a long way toward conversion!

Have you looked into getting affiliates to sell it for you?

Wishing you and your friends the best.

Art - all I can offer you is my prayers. I am sorry to hear about your tribulations and I hope that something will happen that turns this around. They say 'He works in mysterious ways' - so never give up.

Lots of people with only half of your challenges are also struggling right now with no jobs, no prospects, and no place to live. I know it doesn't help much to say 'you are not alone', but you are not alone.

I wonder that in Spain they don't at least have disability benefits for people that are disabled? Please check with some social service agencies - don't be proud.

Again, my prayers will be with you.

Pat

Ah, gee Art. So it's come to this? Been there and done that. I sure hope you can find a way out - I think you'll do it. You are a sharp guy despite your physical challenges and I think you'll make it back out. If one thing doesn't work - just try something else. Sooner or later the key will drop into your lap.

Godspeed and hope to hear the best of news from you soon.

Hi, Frank,

Thanks for these suggestions and, yes, I am doing a joint venture with the product with a marketer who knows his stuff but who also has other irons in the fire and has been very busy in the last week or two.

Hopefully a friend in Barcelona will act as a salesman for me. Two salesmen who did start working for me discovered how simple and effective this is and they are now working for themselves in their own towns. Surprisingly enough, they are also still selling other products using a technique I promote on direct approaches to maximise results.

It seems the only people who don't make money are those who don't try it and me.

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt and had somebody steal it from me ... but would like to help if I can.

My story is losing everything I owned twice in a third world country where I have no legal rights to work anywhere other than online. I am building up from nothing too and given your keen wit and your honesty, by grabbers, maybe I could work with someone I did not scare, intimidate or P off simply by being honest.

We have/had another Warrior who is legally blind and is a writer. If I can find out who it was, I can discover what software they are using to do their writing ... maybe it will work for you. Estimated time of accurately training most software of that nature is what? A couple of weeks?

Use that, write articles and I will post what I can manually but will also look for free versions of automated article submitters. I will also edit it for any errors the software may allow if you would like.

At the moment I am struggling on the lance sites to make a living, still coming up a couple of hundred short every month and I too, have had to rely entirely too much on the support of others. Like you I have a very comprehensive product (Though mine is in the writing niche ... mainly writing online content) and when I got back online I discovered that not only did I not get paid for what sold when I launched but that my "partner" is still selling them on Lulu so that kinda shot me down on making a fortune with my product too. Add in that like you, I am a homebody ... and really do tend to scare people when we meet face to face LOL ... and starting over with nothing. I have nothing to offer really but my services but for you, I admire your honesty and would be happy to do what I can.

I have no list, no sales on my products yet and am re-building my web site from scratch. I also have testicular fortitude and an inherent inability to give up. I work more looking for work than I do actually working and getting paid and have resolved myself to this situation until I can enough residual income coming in to pay my bills.

In the meantime, I am working with another Warrior ... with the idea being that I will create all of the manuals and do some promotional articles for their new software which they, in turn will add to my site ... hopefully allowing me to begin building a list. I have two products that can be used as giveaways at the moment and between us, we have two we could use as OTO sales. They were products that I actually began for paying clients who disappeared and one will take some cleaning up ... but apart from doing any editing and submittals, here is my other proposition ... I can give you a giveaway item to use, I can set up pages on my site or yours if you have one for the OTO with your product as the back end ... and then we both submit the free items to the giveaway and hope we make some sales.

Ain't much I know but iffin ya got nuthin, ya got nuthin ta lose too!

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt, had it stolen and still paying for it ... but I am back in the game and even if I do not have the ball yet, it does not mean I cannot play


It may be a couple of sales and it may be none ... I can not make guarantees ... but I can offer what little I have.

Just my two cents



I do not have a list, but if you want to

Hi, Anomaly,

Thanks very much for you kind offer to help, specially in your own circumstances.

My situation as far as the product is concerned is that I have a good freebie which is my own unique take on using the telephone to make sales or appointments that can improve the lead retention level by about 90% because of a simple attitude adjustment (ie. a simple method to call a lead and still have it as a lead if they say 'No') and there is a whole raft of information articles in support of my simple methodology.

To be blunt, what I teach is so bloody obvious that it will not be long after my report does hit the market that it will be being mutilated, re-written and sold for $7 by any marketer who is that way inclined. The fact that I and most marketers accept this level of plagiarism is an indication of the levels to which online marketing of digital products has fallen.

That said, if I could find someone willing to present my product to a list of 500,000 at $7 and only 3% took it up, I and my partner would be very pleased, even after 50% to the list owner - BUT - not as pleased as we would be if 1% took it up at $197 (which is still cheap for a fool proof, hardly ever fails, strategy).

THAT is the real tragedy.

My good Sir, if I had a list at all I would gladly promote it but unfortunately, I have nothing. Thus, I have nothing to lose. As for Copyright Theft, my Mother actually does a great deal of work in that field but will never offer legal advice ... and to get any lawyer to take you seriously, you would have to be (in my humble opinion and very personal experience) very wealthy and with good connections to be able to successfully prosecute any type of Copyright violation when it comes to the "Make money online niche". That is one of the reasons 1)My site is so diverse (or eclectic) in nature 2)Most of my ventures have never been in the Make Money online niche (though as a writer, I do have enough experience to write about it and mostly write basic and introductory information that is free to the readers on my site.

If I am not mistaken, you do seem to have some "hillbilly" tenacity coursing through your veins so I doubt you will be stopped for long by such an obstacle even if you are temporarily prevented from making forward progress. However, if I may be of service in any way, I will certainly do what I can.

Your honesty and blunt approach are very refreshing and very reminiscent of the lessons taught in my own home ... and also appreciated for that.

With thanks,

Ward Tipton

Art my prayers go out to you. Stay hopeful and focused. I first started my blog before I had a decent computer of my own using the ones that were available at the public library.
Sometimes I'd go to a friends and throw up a post, So I understand your frustration. I think DMony has a valid point too.

One of John Carlton's favorite sayings is "you have to sell what people are buying!" Until you start moving your product try to get your hands on something that will help you bill a list and start the cash flowing. A JV partner with a list is worth considering.

Stay focused

Re: If only I could work
Uhhh...maybe this is going to sound harsh, but if you aren't making money doing what you sell, and if you don't believe yourself about your own program, then you're flogging a crappy program.

I mean, I'm not saying you're a bad person or anything. But, find a program that works and then after you figure that out, sell it.




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Originally Posted by artwebster
It doesn't work for me because I can't get out to meet people and when I do, they don't believe me because of my eyes (when I look in the mirror, I don't trust ME!)


Damn it! Dmony,
This is just the sort of crappy assinine post that makes people despair at the quality of new members in this forum.
You haven't bothered to try to understand anything that I have said and have probably not even bothered to read much of what is posted here in an effort to reach the minimum number of posts so that you can try to spam the boards (sorry - that was harsh - so that you can post a link and send PMs)

in order to cater for your obvious lack of knowledge, here is a translation:-

You have not read what has been said - your post is not worth the time it will take to read - your brain was not in gear to give real thought to the posts so you have shown that you do not have two brain cells on the job - just a need to post more crap.

I didn't realise how difficult it is to bring myself down to the monosylabic levels of some people!

Art,
I feel bad for you and I have read the posts and your explainations.
Have you ever heard of the phrase working in the "grey Zone" well being in this forum, having as many posts as you have since sept 2008 is "grey zone". You have to be working where you bring home the bacon. You must concentrate on two tasks daily for a total of four hours a day. Break it up into one hour blocks. One hour on sales and marketing and one hour on content. Do this for thirty days and you will reverse your situation. You mention you could have a twenty thousand word report, well you could break it up and a small report worth $17,$27 or $47. give the commission to the affiliate using $7 script or RPA software makes it easy and your oto can be a split . Your backend would be all yours. You jumped on DMONY'S post and I think their is truth there and also with WRITEONBRO'S post
Sometimes the truth SUCKS.
Good luck and move forward--Dont look back.