What Should I Believe And Why?

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Starting on a clean slate. Thank you.

You should believe that you are starting on a clean slate.

Why?

Because it would crush you to learn that you're really not! HAHHAHAHaaaaaa!

Oh, sorry.

It's the meds. I swear. It is the meds.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

You should believe that you are starting on a clean slate.

Why?

Because it would crush you to learn that you're really not! HAHHAHAHaaaaaa!

Oh, sorry.

It's the meds. I swear. It is the meds.

Terra

Come to think of it -- what is a "slate"? I figure it's something like blackboard, presumably made of slate rock, but it's not actually a word I regularly use in my daily life. Checking search engine results. Whoah, more complicated than I imagined...
SLATE: System Level Automation Tool for Engineers

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LynnM

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Come to think of it -- what is a "slate"? I figure it's something like blackboard, presumably made of slate rock, but it's not actually a word I regularly use in my daily life. Checking search engine results. Whoah, more complicated than I imagined...
SLATE: System Level Automation Tool for Engineers

I always thought it had something to do with school slates, which is what schoolkids wrote on in times past:
Slate (writing) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Joe Mobley

11 years ago

Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit - YouTube

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ConfusedJ 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Joe Mobley

Michael Shermer's Baloney Detection Kit - YouTube

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Ironically, Michael Shermer, himself, and most of Shermer's beliefs fail his own baloney detection kit. Heh.
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- Claude Whitacre 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ConfusedJ
  
  Ironically, Michael Shermer, himself, and most of Shermer's beliefs fail his own baloney detection kit. Heh.
  
  I get you now. It took three posts.
  
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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

I have no idea what you are talking about....

But I actually have an answer, I believe.
Never accept what you want to believe. Question why you believe something. Cross examine the reasons you think one way or another.

If you like one idea, but the evidence shows something else...you have to let your idea go.

Never defend a belief. If someone attacks it, try to examine if their attack makes sense. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.

Never hold a belief to be absolute. Never invest in a belief, until evidence makes is a fact. And then if new evidence appears, test that. Your opinions will evolve.

Other people agreeing with you is not evidence. Don't be swayed by peer pressure.

Positions are not thoughts. Positions almost always do not reflect the truth.

And if someone disagrees with you, don't be alarmed if you discover that you are wrong.

But the biggest thing I can tell you...is that there are not two sides to any issue. Arguments are always fought by two people with incomplete information. Nearly always, both are completely wrong.

And never fall in love with your point of view. They change as you learn more.

If you're starting with a clean slate, examine everything you think, dissect it and reassemble it. Eventually the reality will reveal itself. And more often than not, you won't like it.

And I bet this isn't what you wanted to hear. And you're not starting with a clear slate. Only newborns are.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I have no idea what you are talking about....

But I actually have an answer, I believe.
Never accept what you want to believe. Question why you believe something. Cross examine the reasons you think one way or another.

If you like one idea, but the evidence shows something else...you have to let your idea go.

Never defend a belief. If someone attacks it, try to examine if their attack makes sense. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.

Never hold a belief to be absolute. Never invest in a belief, until evidence makes is a fact. And then if new evidence appears, test that. Your opinions will evolve.

Other people agreeing with you is not evidence. Don't be swayed by peer pressure.

Positions are not thoughts. Positions are almost always do not reflect the truth.

And if someone disagrees with you, don't be alarmed if you discover that you are wrong.

But the biggest thing I can tell you...is that there are not two sides to any issue. Arguments are always fought by two people with incomplete information. Nearly always, both are completely wrong.

And never fall in love with your point of view. They change as you learn more.

If you're starting with a clean slate, examine everything you think, dissect it and reassemble it. Eventually the reality will reveal itself. And more often than not, you won't like it.

And I bet this isn't what you wanted to hear. And you're not starting with a clear slate. Only newborns are.

I think I'll have to keep this for my son to read when he would be old enough to understand it.

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Claude Whitacre

11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

I think I'll have to keep this for my son to read when he would be old enough to understand it.

That may be the most appreciated compliment I've ever received. Thank you.

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tagiscom

11 years ago

Yep, have an assumption of something, then regardless of what popular media says, go out and see if it is true or not!

Then after years of research and making sure you are sane, show your evidence to the world.

Then have people who couldn't be bothered, going down the track of self research, tell you that you are crazy, since your concrete evidence, (in your self research) doesn't fit popular media or their beliefs, based on what mass media says!

Then go away at least thinking you tried to push society up another small notch or two, but some want to stay where they are, which of course is ok, as long as any conversations are open!

Although other lines of research with overwhelming evidence can still get blackballed if it goes against popular media.

Or if you show them pictures of ducks, they will dismiss it to the point of insanity, that it is a pink elephant!

Long held beliefs, and insanity seem to go hand in hand!

Or as Edison said, stupidity is infinite!

Unfortunately still true to this day! Sniff!

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tagiscom

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

You should believe that you are starting on a clean slate.

Why?

Because it would crush you to learn that you're really not! HAHHAHAHaaaaaa!

Oh, sorry.

It's the meds. I swear. It is the meds.

Terra

Hmmmm, must be your past catching up with you? LOL! :rolleyes:

You never told us!!!!!

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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Hmmmm, must be your past catching up with you? LOL! :rolleyes:

You never told us!!!!!

Shane

SPLORF!

What the heck did you do to my neck, lol!

Thanks Shane!

I haven't been well over the weekend and this, this just made me laugh and feel much better.

Hahaha!

Terra
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- HeySal 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MissTerraK
  
  SPLORF!
  
  What the heck did you do to my neck, lol!
  
  <snip>
  
  He turned you into FrankenTerra.
  
  You thought your last name, Kern, would cause confusion about whether you were related to Frank or not (she's not, for those now wondering)...................
  
  Just wait until they hear you are now FrankenTerra Kern. LMAO.
  
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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I have no idea what you are talking about....

But I actually have an answer, I believe.
Never accept what you want to believe. Question why you believe something. Cross examine the reasons you think one way or another.

If you like one idea, but the evidence shows something else...you have to let your idea go.

Never defend a belief. If someone attacks it, try to examine if their attack makes sense. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.

Never hold a belief to be absolute. Never invest in a belief, until evidence makes is a fact. And then if new evidence appears, test that. Your opinions will evolve.

Other people agreeing with you is not evidence. Don't be swayed by peer pressure.

Positions are not thoughts. Positions are almost always do not reflect the truth.

And if someone disagrees with you, don't be alarmed if you discover that you are wrong.

But the biggest thing I can tell you...is that there are not two sides to any issue. Arguments are always fought by two people with incomplete information. Nearly always, both are completely wrong.

And never fall in love with your point of view. They change as you learn more.

If you're starting with a clean slate, examine everything you think, dissect it and reassemble it. Eventually the reality will reveal itself. And more often than not, you won't like it.

And I bet this isn't what you wanted to hear. And you're not starting with a clear slate. Only newborns are.

Oh I highly disagree. Never believe anything. Always just KNOW something. People might consider you shamelessly pedantic and offensive - but it's so much less work than researching and analyzing your thoughts and positions.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Oh I highly disagree. Never believe anything. Always just KNOW something. People might consider you shamelessly pedantic and offensive - but it's so much less work than researching and analyzing your thoughts and positions.

Sister, I had no idea HeySal was you.

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bizgrower

11 years ago

This makes it obvious you really did not miss a thing by not going to college.

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I have no idea what you are talking about....

But I actually have an answer, I believe.
Never accept what you want to believe. Question why you believe something. Cross examine the reasons you think one way or another.

If you like one idea, but the evidence shows something else...you have to let your idea go.

Never defend a belief. If someone attacks it, try to examine if their attack makes sense. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.

Never hold a belief to be absolute. Never invest in a belief, until evidence makes is a fact. And then if new evidence appears, test that. Your opinions will evolve.

Other people agreeing with you is not evidence. Don't be swayed by peer pressure.

Positions are not thoughts. Positions almost always do not reflect the truth.

And if someone disagrees with you, don't be alarmed if you discover that you are wrong.

But the biggest thing I can tell you...is that there are not two sides to any issue. Arguments are always fought by two people with incomplete information. Nearly always, both are completely wrong.

And never fall in love with your point of view. They change as you learn more.

If you're starting with a clean slate, examine everything you think, dissect it and reassemble it. Eventually the reality will reveal itself. And more often than not, you won't like it.

And I bet this isn't what you wanted to hear. And you're not starting with a clear slate. Only newborns are.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

I have no idea what you are talking about....

But I actually have an answer, I believe.
Never accept what you want to believe. Question why you believe something. Cross examine the reasons you think one way or another.

If you like one idea, but the evidence shows something else...you have to let your idea go.

Never defend a belief. If someone attacks it, try to examine if their attack makes sense. Sometimes it does. Sometimes it doesn't.

Never hold a belief to be absolute. Never invest in a belief, until evidence makes is a fact. And then if new evidence appears, test that. Your opinions will evolve.

Other people agreeing with you is not evidence. Don't be swayed by peer pressure.

Positions are not thoughts. Positions almost always do not reflect the truth.

And if someone disagrees with you, don't be alarmed if you discover that you are wrong.

But the biggest thing I can tell you...is that there are not two sides to any issue. Arguments are always fought by two people with incomplete information. Nearly always, both are completely wrong.

And never fall in love with your point of view. They change as you learn more.

If you're starting with a clean slate, examine everything you think, dissect it and reassemble it. Eventually the reality will reveal itself. And more often than not, you won't like it.

And I bet this isn't what you wanted to hear. And you're not starting with a clear slate. Only newborns are.

There's irony in the above post because, over time, I've learned never to believe anything Claude says.

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FinestCigars

11 years ago

You must believe and trust in your self, Because your the only one who knows what you doing or what you've done by your self.

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thunderbird

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill

You should believe everything I say because I tell you to.

This is starting to sound like a family get-together.

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HeySal

11 years ago

And to me slate is a sedimentary rock that often is associated with fossils. I have a couple of pieces of slate with trilobites in them.

So there ya go. Lots of ways to look at slate, each being correct in the context the thinker is putting it into.

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

And to me slate is a sedimentary rock that often is associated with fossils. I have a couple of pieces of slate with trilobites in them.

So there ya go. Lots of ways to look at slate, each being correct in the context the thinker is putting it into.

Of course, we can all just look up the origin of the phrase "Clean Slate". But this is more fun.

I'm assuming that "Slate" started off as you say. And then slate was used in chalkboards. And "Clean slate" just means that the chalkboard is either clean or has had everything erased.

So a clean slate means no agenda, or starting over.
Now that I feel sufficiently pompous, I can take the rest of the day off.

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Of course, we can all just look up the origin of the phrase "Clean Slate". But this is more fun.

I'm assuming that "Slate" started off as you say. And then slate was used in chalkboards. And "Clean slate" just means that the chalkboard is either clean or has had everything erased.

So a clean slate means no agenda, or starting over.
Now that I feel sufficiently pompous, I can take the rest of the day off.

Exactly - "clean slate" is an allusion to a freshly washed chalkboard - it's got no predetermination, no rules - you can do about anything with it your heart desires. Of course, there's always some busybody who has to try to tell you to write something 500 times on it. They are harder to erase, but dumping water on them is certainly a good means of entertainment.

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misslenali

11 years ago

ok... for the question about what you should believe,,,
first of all... investigate
the company should have a frontfigure with name, adress and other contactinfo.
if the company don´t provide a person to contact.... do not believe it

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by misslenali

ok... for the question about what you should believe,,,
first of all... investigate
the company should have a frontfigure with name, adress and other contactinfo.
if the company don´t provide a person to contact.... do not believe it

"middle of nowhere" must mean your capacity to follow the flow of the thread? :rolleyes:

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bizgrower

11 years ago

My brain is moving like slate today and I foresee a Moron Moment coming soon.

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HeySal 11 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

My brain is moving like slate today and I foresee a Moron Moment coming soon.

Dan

Willing to share if you find yourself short of one.
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- bizgrower 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by HeySal
  
  Willing to share if you find yourself short of one.
  
  I'll certainly let you know if I need more. But, I do pretty well at having more than enough of those moments.
  
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misslenali

11 years ago

I would love to answer if I knew the question ?

do not write anything under the state of heavy meds

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bizgrower

11 years ago

Brain not working, so I'll just take the easy, boring way:
(Call me thread killer - in a bad way.)

"Wax Tablet" actually.
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Micah Medina

11 years ago

Much of your success will come from the ability to believe two opposing things equally.

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by Micah Medina

Much of your success will come from the ability to believe two opposing things equally.

Could you explain that? I can understand two opposing viewpoints at the same time....

But believe both of them? I'm missing something here.
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- HeySal 11 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
  
  Could you explain that? I can understand two opposing viewpoints at the same time....
  
  But believe both of them? I'm missing something here.
  
  I can help with that one
  
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  Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre
  
  Could you explain that? I can understand two opposing viewpoints at the same time....
  
  But believe both of them? I'm missing something here.
  
  Be upset at failure and ignore it. Focus on the process. Focus on the results. Trust everyone and trust no-one. Think like a businessperson. Think like a customer. Most cliches in business have an opposite cliche, when you get emotional or you have a limited level of confidence you commit to one way of thinking, which has detrimental consequences.
  
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Kurt

11 years ago

There's only one REAL slate, and that's Mr. Slate, Fred Flintstone's boss:

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HeySal

11 years ago

LOL - forgot about him. You are such a walkin' way-back machine sometimes, Kurt.

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bizgrower

11 years ago

I just stayed up way too late watching Flintstone stuff on YouTube. Yabba dabba doo.

Happy Elk Fest, Kurt.

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You can believe what you want to believe.
No reason, just be yourself.
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Originally Posted by bizgrower

I just stayed up way too late watching Flintstone stuff on YouTube. Yabba dabba doo.

Happy Elk Fest, Kurt.

Haven't introduced the Flintstones to my son yet, but he did see that image of Mr. Slate and asked me about it.
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11 years ago

You get to choose your own mentors. Pick someone successful that is at a place you want to be at in 5-10 years. Offer value until they have no choice but to take you under their wing.

Belief systems are a crutch so choose them very carefully. Beyond your one or two mentors, socially experiment in your own world and create your own belief systems.

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bizgrower

11 years ago

It's Terra-nator neck.

Hope you feel better soon.
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11 years ago

I believe that some people have lots of time to waste....

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HeySal

11 years ago

Originally Posted by Beverley Boorer

I believe that some people have lots of time to waste....

And if you knew the populace and dynamics of the OT, you'd realize that time here is not wasted.

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tagiscom

11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

SPLORF!

What the heck did you do to my neck, lol!

Thanks Shane!

I haven't been well over the weekend and this, this just made me laugh and feel much better.

Hahaha!

Terra

Glad l gave you a much needed laugh. Sorry about the neck thing, not easy decapitating a head from a photo and pasting onto another! :rolleyes:

But everyone here seems to be going along with the gag, so l need to post these ones! He, he!

Go ahead punks, pretty please, :rolleyes:. We need a female Robocop!

She's alive, he, he! :p

I hate to say it, but green looks good on you!

I kept the bolts off, since l thought that earrings looked better, and l was too lazy, mmm!

Thank's for being such a good sport about all this, l had better stop or Claude might get gelious?

This should keep Claude happy, or Super Claude, he, he!

PS didn't get the Frank one, but l do now, ha, ha! :rolleyes:

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Claude Whitacre 11 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

"Implants...She definitely needs implants!" :rolleyes:

This should keep Claude happy, or Super Claude, he, he!

Thanks Shane. I'll post it on our headboard. It might spruce things up a bit.
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MissTerraK 11 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

I like the RoboCop one but would you please tell this sick-o to kindly get his hands off of my chest!! Look at the expression on his face! Creepy!! :p

Originally Posted by tagiscom

I hate to say it, but green looks good on you!

Shane

Nooo! I look like a lizard lady that would be a television broadcaster on the old sitcom The Dinosaurs!

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11 years ago

Originally Posted by thunderbird

Starting on a clean slate. Thank you.

Everything, at first. The contradictions and lies will stand out more.

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SteveJohnson

11 years ago

Silly wabbits. Slates are for billiards tables. People realized they could be laid against a wall and written on after the first uncivilized person ripped the felt with a chalked cue on a break.

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tagiscom 11 years ago

Originally Posted by MissTerraK

I like the RoboCop one but would you please tell this sick-o to kindly get his hands off of my chest!! Look at the expression on his face! Creepy!! :p

Ha, ha, ha, hee, didn't realize it would end up like that, he was originally looking at his male creation, but he looks a bit on the slimy side in this one!

Oh, well, you still have a smile on your face, so....:rolleyes:

Nooo! I look like a lizard lady that would be a television broadcaster on the old sitcom The Dinosaurs!

Terra

Yep, originally the Frankenstein pic, but it could be used for live dinosaur broadcasts!

You would need to steam clean the suit a 100 times though! LOL!

Shane :p
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bizgrower

11 years ago

Originally Posted by SteveJohnson

Silly wabbits. Slates are for billiards tables. People realized they could be laid against a wall and written on after the first uncivilized person ripped the felt with a chalked cue on a break.

It honestly was not me. Really.

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11 years ago

80% bull!,and 20% facts!

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