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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    That was seriously funny. lol.
    I'm glad he let it go outside after entertaining us though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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      Out of interest (although I doubt Terra will be in a hurry to visit) . . . Maman
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Horny Devil View Post

        Out of interest (although I doubt Terra will be in a hurry to visit) . . . Maman
        You pegged me, lol!

        Seriously? Of all the things to sculpt she picks a giant spider? I don't get it? :confused::p

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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          You pegged me, lol!

          Seriously? Of all the things to sculpt she picks a giant spider? I don't get it? :confused::p

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          We used to get those big Michigan bush spiders in the house. I was terrified crazy of spiders as a kid ----
          Taking care of them is pretty simple. Put a glass over them.....then slide a piece of cardboard under the glass - they are trapped. Keeping the cardboard over the glass, turn the glass right side up with the spider trapped inside. Keep the carboard over the glass so you feel safe from it jumping on you. Take it outside, tip the glass back over near the ground, slide the cardboard out of the way and shake. The spider will fall down and you can step back fast (or run, probably, in your case)

          The spider will be back in its own environment where it can protect against over population of bugs, and you will feel better about the whole situation.
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    LOL nice one.
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  • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    Ha!

    That is so feakin' creepy and well, Okay, funny!

    But you did make me literally scream twice!

    When the spider jumped and when it fell. Ewwwww!!

    But, I will have you know that I did my first tissue spider rescue over the weekend. The little spider did not meet the flusher, but went out into the pines in the back property.

    It was little. I don't think I could do that with one that big...yet...

    I need more time, lol!


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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

      Ha!

      That is so feakin' creepy and well, Okay, funny!

      But you did make me literally scream twice!

      When the spider jumped and when it fell. Ewwwww!!

      But, I will have you know that I did my first tissue spider rescue over the weekend. The little spider did not meet the flusher, but went out into the pines in the back property.

      It was little. I don't think I could do that with one that big...yet...

      I need more time, lol!


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      Seriously ... I'm proud of you Terra.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
      Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post


      But, I will have you know that I did my first tissue spider rescue over the weekend. The little spider did not meet the flusher, but went out into the pines in the back property.
      That's nice for the spider, he can come right back inside when the weather gets cold and his food sources are low.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        That's nice for the spider, he can come right back inside when the weather gets cold and his food sources are low.
        No, don't say that!

        That's what I thought at first, but Sal said if you take them far enough away, they won't come back in. I think half an acre away is pretty far, don't you?

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        • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          No, don't say that!

          That's what I thought at first, but Sal said if you take them far enough away, they won't come back in. I think half an acre away is pretty far, don't you?

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          Probably a day's crawl.

          You must be like my wife ... everything gets caught and taken outside if she sees it. For me, Mr. Spider, meet Mr. Shoe.
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          • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            Probably a day's crawl.

            You must be like my wife ... everything gets caught and taken outside if she sees it. For me, Mr. Spider, meet Mr. Shoe.
            Mr. Shoe makes spider Mr. Goo...Ewww,Yuck!

            I have been gently picking them up with tissue and then tossing them into the toilet and flushing. No bug guts that way.

            However, I'm trying to be a good girl and on the advice of everyone else, I finally saved a spider's life and set him free outside rather than giving him death by toilet. To help the environment, you see, they say.

            Don't give me any reasons to go back to being a flushing murderess. I'll feel guilty now. :p

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          • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            Probably a day's crawl.

            You must be like my wife ... everything gets caught and taken outside if she sees it. For me, Mr. Spider, meet Mr. Shoe.
            Dennis ... it took a whole two page spider thread to convince Terra that spiders were beneficial ... way more beneficial than not.

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            • Profile picture of the author HeySal
              Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

              Dennis ... it took a whole two page spider thread to convince Terra that spiders were beneficial ... way more beneficial than not.

              http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...y-but-now.html
              I'm the same way about mice. They are extraordinarily beneficial for the environment, yet people kill them. I live-trap them, put them in an aquarium with a wheel, bedding and food and just take them out to a very healthy location for them far enough away from homes to avoid a later kill when I either get time or enough mice that they start to fight.

              No matter what people think of them, they are very intelligent gentle creatures. They help with seed dispersion and soil aeration, among other things, and are an important in the food chain as well. I couldn't bring myself to kill one of them if I tried. After raising a few and teaching them tricks -- including to give "kisses" - it would be like killing a dog for me. .
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              • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                I'm the same way about mice. They are extraordinarily beneficial for the environment, yet people kill them. I live-trap them, put them in an aquarium with a wheel, bedding and food and just take them out to a very healthy location for them far enough away from homes to avoid a later kill when I either get time or enough mice that they start to fight.

                No matter what people think of them, they are very intelligent gentle creatures. They help with seed dispersion and soil aeration, among other things, and are an important in the food chain as well. I couldn't bring myself to kill one of them if I tried. After raising a few and teaching them tricks -- including to give "kisses" - it would be like killing a dog for me. .
                We don't get many brave enough to come into our house. There's more than enough food for them in the shed with all my animal feed out there and we have 3 vigilant cats in the house. I actually did have a couple of pet white mice as a kid. They were friendly and interesting.
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              • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


                I'm the same way about mice. They are extraordinarily beneficial for the environment, yet people kill them.
                Purely for the calorific content Sal (30 calories per mouse).


                Originally Posted by HeySal View Post


                After raising a few and teaching them tricks -- including to give "kisses . . .
                Can you do that for my wife. I'm willing to negotiate on the fee.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jason Kanigan
    That spider is well over the size that I can handle. I will put smaller ones outside but not this big. That size will meet its maker. Fortunately I've never encountered one that large.

    I loved how the cat was ready to hunt and without any concern for its own safety.

    And the use of various stainless steel kitchen tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by Jason Kanigan View Post

      That spider is well over the size that I can handle. I will put smaller ones outside but not this big. That size will meet its maker. Fortunately I've never encountered one that large.

      I loved how the cat was ready to hunt and without any concern for its own safety.

      And the use of various stainless steel kitchen tools.
      Spiders don't really scare me. Most spider species, even venomous ones, are not aggressive. The bug that scares me is the vinchuca assassin bug. They are aggressive bugs with a head like a syringe needle, attack at night, a sting that is said to feel like an electrical shock, and they spread a horrible disease:
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      • Profile picture of the author Horny Devil
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        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post


        The bug that scares me is the vinchuca assassin bug. They are aggressive bugs with a head like a syringe needle, attack at night, a sting that is said to feel like an electrical shock, and they spread a horrible disease
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Don't worry Suzanne, my wife gets rid of them because she doesn't want me to kill them. Are you starting to see an underlying method to my madness.
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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Don't worry Suzanne, my wife gets rid of them because she doesn't want me to kill them. Are you starting to see an underlying method to my madness.
      lol ... so there's an agenda. I can relate to that. Whenever I wanted my ex to do something I hated to do, I did it very poorly.

      Right now I feel there's not enough spiders around our house. It's stink bug time of the year in VA and our house is covered with them ... they have only one goal right now and that is to get in before winter. I just vacuumed around 50 of them that found a way into my bedroom.

      On my way to the backdoor, I saw two of them dead and trapped in spiders webs. It made me feel warm all over ... lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        Right now I feel there's not enough spiders around our house. It's stink bug time of the year in VA and our house is covered with them ... they have only one goal right now and that is to get in before winter. I just vacuumed around 50 of them that found a way into my bedroom.
        Yuck. I don't remember a stink bug problem when I lived in Virginia. Maybe because I lived on the beach ... you live out in the sticks, don't you? Of course, that was over about 30 years ago too, a lot can change in that amount of time.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Yuck. I don't remember a stink bug problem when I lived in Virginia. Maybe because I lived on the beach ... you live out in the sticks, don't you? Of course, that was over about 30 years ago too, a lot can change in that amount of time.
          Yeah, I do, but the stink bug invasion has only been happening for a few years here. It's quite something. We sweep them with long brooms off the brick walls on the outside, the chickens run around scooping them up as they fall, but in minutes the house is covered again. I had to put tape all around my windows today to keep them out. They can squeeze through the smallest cracks, and they really do stink. As it gets colder, they became more desperate to get in.
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          • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
            Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

            Mr. Shoe makes spider Mr. Goo...Ewww,Yuck!

            I have been gently picking them up with tissue and then tossing them into the toilet and flushing. No bug guts that way.

            However, I'm trying to be a good girl and on the advice of everyone else, I finally saved a spider's life and set him free outside rather than giving him death by toilet. To help the environment, you see, they say.

            Don't give me any reasons to go back to being a flushing murderess. I'll feel guilty now. :p

            Terra
            You can also do what l do, and next time you manage to get a plastic cylinder, (like the ones used for flowers, with a lid) keep it for spider catching!

            I have an old one that looks a bit yellow, but it is great for spiders, also good for cockroaches, if you are fast enough!

            You just put it over them, and wait til they crawl up the tube, then quickly put the end on, and throw the whole thing outside, minus the lid!

            The clear plastic tube is long, so you will have a safety margin to put on the lid and take it off just before throwing!


            It can be used for flys, etc as well, especially useful when the pesky critters are on your roof.

            Certainly better than fly spray, and the stink, etc! :rolleyes:


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        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        lol ... so there's an agenda. I can relate to that. Whenever I wanted my ex to do something I hated to do, I did it very poorly.

        Right now I feel there's not enough spiders around our house. It's stink bug time of the year in VA and our house is covered with them ... they have only one goal right now and that is to get in before winter. I just vacuumed around 50 of them that found a way into my bedroom.

        On my way to the backdoor, I saw two of them dead and trapped in spiders webs. It made me feel warm all over ... lol.
        Just courious, are they Stnk Bugs or Boxelder bugs?
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxelder_bug
        From what you are describing they sound more like the Boxelder bugs as they will cover the side of a house this time of year.
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        • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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          Originally Posted by ThomM View Post

          Just courious, are they Stnk Bugs or Boxelder bugs?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxelder_bug
          From what you are describing they sound more like the Boxelder bugs as they will cover the side of a house this time of year.
          The Asian Stink Bug. They don't bite. They just stink and invade in such huge numbers that they are a real nuisance. Like I said, there number one goal this time of year is to get inside the house.

          Once inside, they seem to like to cozy up with people. They'll drop in on the table where you're sitting and stare at you. They land in your coffee or dinner plate and when that happens, I can tell you that it's very unpleasant. The smell permeates your brain for hours. lol.




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    I love the cat in this video....he just didn't give a sh**....so typical....mine would have done the same thing.
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  • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
    I'm afraid I can't be so benevolent toward spiders, after having been bitten by one. To me, eight legs = death by lethal compression.

    This is the hobo spider that bit me (verified as such by the Idaho State University Extension Service):



    and this is the damage he did. Took six months to heal all the way closed:

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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

      I'm afraid I can't be so benevolent toward spiders, after having been bitten by one. To me, eight legs = death by lethal compression.

      This is the hobo spider that bit me (verified as such by the Idaho State University Extension Service):



      and this is the damage he did. Took six months to heal all the way closed:

      Owie!!

      Well, I can't say that I blame you there, Steve. Honestly.

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    • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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      Originally Posted by SteveJohnson View Post

      I'm afraid I can't be so benevolent toward spiders, after having been bitten by one. To me, eight legs = death by lethal compression.

      This is the hobo spider that bit me (verified as such by the Idaho State University Extension Service):



      and this is the damage he did. Took six months to heal all the way closed:

      I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't give a recluse or a hobo spider a pass, as I have grandchildren who visit and they're fairly dangerous spiders.

      I do give the Black Widow a big pass. We literally have hundreds in our shed and probably have a lot in the attic. If rummaging through the attic, I would wear leather gloves and jeans and long sleeved shirt. In the shed, they just hide and don't bother us at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Come to think of it, what would Halloween be without spiders?


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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

        I'm fairly certain that I wouldn't give a recluse or a hobo spider a pass, as I have grandchildren who visit and they're fairly dangerous spiders.

        I do give the Black Widow a big pass. We literally have hundreds in our shed and probably have a lot in the attic. If rummaging through the attic, I would wear leather gloves and jeans and long sleeved shirt. In the shed, they just hide and don't bother us at all.
        Yeah, I go that way with those things, too. Black widows are shy and don't bother me. They don't attack unless they are cornered. But those hobo/recluses just bite. Period.

        If one of those bit me I would probably be on a spider rampage, too, Steve. Looks like you actually got off easy on that one. People lose limbs, and I believe I've heard of people dying from a recluse bite, but I might be wrong about that. Not nice at the best though.

        I'm wondering -- how big was the spider that did that to you?
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        • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Yeah, I go that way with those things, too. Black widows are shy and don't bother me. They don't attack unless they are cornered. But those hobo/recluses just bite. Period.

          If one of those bit me I would probably be on a spider rampage, too, Steve. Looks like you actually got off easy on that one. People lose limbs, and I believe I've heard of people dying from a recluse bite, but I might be wrong about that. Not nice at the best though.

          I'm wondering -- how big was the spider that did that to you?
          Yeah, the effects of the hobo spider bite are definitely nasty. I wouldn't be charitable to such creatures in my home either. There is even discussion in medical circles if the bites cause a condition called "necrosis" in humans. Yikes.
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          • Profile picture of the author SteveJohnson
            Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

            Yeah, the effects of the hobo spider bite are definitely nasty. I wouldn't be charitable to such creatures in my home either. There is even discussion in medical circles if the bites cause a condition called "necrosis" in humans. Yikes.
            Tissue necrosis is exactly what happens with hobo and brown recluse bites. Basically, the venom liquifies tissue so that the spider can drink them. It does it by breaking down cellular proteins.

            Black widows, on the other hand, have a venom that attacks the nervous system, that's why their bite is so much more painful and noticeable.
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          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Yeah, I go that way with those things, too. Black widows are shy and don't bother me. They don't attack unless they are cornered. But those hobo/recluses just bite. Period.

          If one of those bit me I would probably be on a spider rampage, too, Steve. Looks like you actually got off easy on that one. People lose limbs, and I believe I've heard of people dying from a recluse bite, but I might be wrong about that. Not nice at the best though.

          I'm wondering -- how big was the spider that did that to you?
          With all his legs spread out, almost 3/4 of an inch. But they have LONG legs. Body was maybe the size of an extra-long grain white rice kernel.

          I had felt it bite my calf - just a little pinprick - and saw it fall out of the coverall pants I'd just put on, so I trapped it mainly out of curiosity. When it started feeling weird I thought I probably ought to pay attention so I took it to the extension svc office (was just down the street from where I was working) and a knowledgeable spider person happened to be there and ID'd it, told me I should go to a doctor.

          I'm not a doctor-oriented person, but went anyway. Dr. said there was no established treatment but said they had a chance of stopping the necrosis through surgical debriding. HUH? The turd wanted to cut out half my calf muscle!!!

          What I ended up doing was keeping it packed with a charcoal and ground flax seed poultice, changed 3x a day. After one day I saw that it wasn't advancing any, but didn't look like it was healing, either. Kept it packed for like a month till it started to close up. Took almost 6 months to heal over completely.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Hobo spiders are one of the small number of spider species with bites that are considered "medically significant". They favor human habitats, likely because they're not native to the Americas, but to Europe -- taken to the Americas on boats through no choice of their own, poor things -- so they're lonely and need a home. It's them Europeans who are to blame for the hobo spider in your shoe. Play lots of European songs to help keep the hobo spiders lurking in your belongings happy.

    How can anyone not love spiders?! They're small (most of them), they're fuzzy, they sing songs:
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