You can't cure stupid - RV drags Pickup 6 miles

by whland
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A guy in an rv drags a pickup 6 miles with his RV with the truck in park.


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    Well, at least it was his truck. If I were the police, I would give him a nice ticket for destruction of public property, littering, unlawful towing of a vehicle, and various deficiencies on the truck and I would impound the truck, demanding that all be paid first.

    EVEN if the wheels were still good, and it didn't leave a mark on the road, towing against locked wheels could hurt the axle, braking mechanism, shocks, etc... If the wheels are bad, it could be a firehazard, because of the metal hitting the road. If he had a slow leak in his gas, it could blow up his RV. Unlikely, but it COULD happen!

    Gee, if I were him, I would try to get my truck towed someplace(with a flatbed truck that could merely carry the pickup), and get the tires replaced and the back suspension and all checked out. So it may cost 200-300 USD, it would be WORTH it!

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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Lmao, he's only 2 miles from the house.



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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    Yeah, ONLY about 10560 feet. The wheels SHOULD rotate only about 168 times.

    I wonder how many sparks, or what kind of road damage could result.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Pretty nice RV the guy was driving. Apparently the guy is not dumb about everything. Those things aren't exactly cheap.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      That's one of those stupid mistakes that you never, ever live down....
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Pretty nice RV the guy was driving. Apparently the guy is not dumb about everything. Those things aren't exactly cheap.
      You know NOTHING about it! He could have stolen it, inherited it, or found a dumber person to sell it to him. He sounds pretty stupid to me! He would risk his TRUCK, RV, DRIVNG RECORD, INSURANCE, POSSIBLE MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES, ETC.... JUST to "save" a couple hundred(or maybe far less) in charges, and maybe an hour or less? DUMB! BTW if the truck starts breaking, or throwing parts, and causes a crash, and a person dies, he COULD be charged with negligent MANSLAUGHTER! He was notified, etc....

      Criminally negligent manslaughter[edit]
      Criminally negligent manslaughter is variously referred to as criminally negligent homicide in the United States, gross negligence manslaughter in England and Wales. In Scotland and some Commonwealth of Nations jurisdictions the offence of culpable homicide might apply.
      It occurs where death results from serious negligence, or, in some jurisdictions, serious recklessness. A high degree of negligence is required to warrant criminal liability. A related concept is that of willful blindness, which is where a defendant intentionally puts himself in a position where he will be unaware of facts which would render him liable.
      BTW one person, IN the US CONGRESS, today said we should care about some government workers not being there to encourage poor people to buy cheap mortgages for homes! I'm thinking... 6 years after the fiasco, they are STILL trying! Like JF straws burning match theory, or the "SBEM" attribution to PT Barnum! You can bet the backend stuff is still there, since all the loans have to be serviced. For the FRONT end, they can go to a bank, like everyone else. But HEY, stupidity abounds! BTW many of those people were STUPID and POOR, and STILL had legal control over homes in the hundreds of thousands of dollars!

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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        You know NOTHING about it! He could have stolen it, inherited it, or found a dumber person to sell it to him. He sounds pretty stupid to me! He would risk his TRUCK, RV, DRIVNG RECORD, INSURANCE, POSSIBLE MANSLAUGHTER CHARGES, ETC.... JUST to "save" a couple hundred(or maybe far less) in charges, and maybe an hour or less? DUMB! BTW if the truck starts breaking, or throwing parts, and causes a crash, and a person dies, he COULD be charged with negligent MANSLAUGHTER! He was notified, etc....
        Either does anyone else, Steve. He could have had a kidnapper inside holding a gun to his wife's head, he could be suffering from dementia, or took an overdose of his prescriptions, or . . . as long as we're just making up scenarios to justify what we CHOOSE to believe, I can do that too.

        I've never met a person who was dumb at everything. Ever.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Either does anyone else, Steve. He could have had a kidnapper inside holding a gun to his wife's head
          Yhen why was he allowed to stop, or have the vehicle behind him like that?

          he could be suffering from dementia, or took an overdose of his prescriptions
          Explains how he could slip up, but not the rest. Still dementia at that level, where you are told and can't make a rational decision ,is stupidity.

          or . . . as long as we're just making up scenarios to justify what we CHOOSE to believe, I can do that too.
          I was imagining what COULD happen, not what had. He was likely lucky. I wonder what he would have said to a cop!

          I've never met a person who was dumb at everything. Ever.
          OK! And YEAH, nobody is even really average for the related groups in everything. STILL, you don't see too many amateurs working on jet engines. If a person can't determine how to tow, etc... they SHOULDN'T! HECK, I had my car TOWED over 2000 miles. OK, maybe not really "towed". They hoisted it on a flat bed and drove it over. There wasn't a SCRATCH on it, and the milage was the same. Would I tow it that far with a standard tow truck? NO WAY!

          Take the indiana driving test, for example! They expect EVERYONE to know how tall trucks can be, how to secure things that are towed, How many passengers you can have, how to indicate you have a wide load, etc.... I don' think they even allow very many wrong answers. It is clear they want you to be careful, and not do something you can't do. What about all those trucks that try to bypass truck routes and end up ripping up drivethroughs, or getting stuck under overpasses? At least THEY can claim forgetfulness or mistakes.

          IMAGINE all the bad that could happen dragging a truck effectively on its wheels, with the brakes on, for 2 miles. Sparks will likely fly, literally, the wheels would be damaged. The suspension, axle, braking mechanism, and rear could likely be damaged. The FRAME could be damaged. The road will likely be damaged. And that isn't considering how it could hurt others.

          Steve
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian John
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Pretty nice RV the guy was driving. Apparently the guy is not dumb about everything. Those things aren't exactly cheap.
      that's what i was thinking. perhaps he's not quite as dumb as everyone is making him out to be...he may be, but i'm not convinced just from the vid.

      for all we know the truck is one of his extra vehicles he loaned to someone who maybe agreed to make payments and after the other party didn't fulfill their obligations and wouldn't pay or return the truck he got pissed and decided he'd get it himself and make a statement while doing it. maybe he didn't take the car out of park because he didn't have the key.

      i don't know what exactly happened, im just giving a scenario that wouldn't surprise me if true. but judging by his "i don't give a ___ what anyone thinks" attitude maybe he's just fed up w getting taken advantage of by someone else and is taking matters into his own hands and solving a problem in a way he wants to solve it, the way he told that person he would if they didn't meet their obligations. i wouldn't be surprised to learn he knew exactly what he was doing but played stupid so as to not have the cops called on him immediately, or if the cops did show up he'd be better off playing stupid than openly demonstrating carelessness and recklessness.

      and regarding the rv, he may be well off which would further explain why he doesn't care about a few thousand $ worth of damage to a vehicle he likely wouldn't drive much anyway. keep in mind, people w money sometimes do things the way they want and not necessarily the right way and often don't care what anyone thinks, especially if they're making a point.

      just trying to present a different viewpoint of what might possibly have occurred other than "you can't fix stupid"
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Brian John View Post

        that's what i was thinking. perhaps he's not quite as dumb as everyone is making him out to be...he may be, but i'm not convinced just from the vid.

        for all we know the truck is one of his extra vehicles he loaned to someone who maybe agreed to make payments and after the other party didn't fulfill their obligations and wouldn't pay or return the truck he got pissed and decided he'd get it himself and make a statement while doing it. maybe he didn't take the car out of park because he didn't have the key.
        LOANED a truck and didn't keep a key? What IS the word!? It doesn't make him look ANY better!



        i don't know what exactly happened, im just giving a scenario that wouldn't surprise me if true. but judging by his "i don't give a ___ what anyone thinks" attitude maybe he's just fed up w getting taken advantage of by someone else and is taking matters into his own hands and solving a problem in a way he wants to solve it, the way he told that person he would if they didn't meet their obligations. i wouldn't be surprised to learn he knew exactly what he was doing but played stupid so as to not have the cops called on him immediately, or if the cops did show up he'd be better off playing stupid than openly demonstrating carelessness and recklessness.

        and regarding the rv, he may be well off which would further explain why he doesn't care about a few thousand $ worth of damage to a vehicle he likely wouldn't drive much anyway. keep in mind, people w money sometimes do things the way they want and not necessarily the right way and often don't care what anyone thinks, especially if they're making a point.

        just trying to present a different viewpoint of what might possibly have occurred other than "you can't fix stupid"
        OK, so burning a house down to repossess it, if you don't have the key is smart!?!?!? WOW! I guess I will just NEVER understand some people!

        The ******EPITOME****** of "carelessness and recklessness" is when, after being TOLD of the situation, indicating that you could NOT care less and continuing your reckless behavior! SORRY, he MADE that part of the case OPEN AND SHUT! A police officer could pull him in for being careless, reckless, AND drunk!

        BTW a police officer DOES have some discretion as to what to consider reckless, and how to handle it. They COULD call this reckless, impound the vehicle, throw the driver in jail, and he could even get some time in jail and have his license suspended. After the suspension, he could get points driving the insurance rates up. HEY, one definition of reckless, that could trigger all of the above, is going 20 miles or more over the speedlimit! ANOTHER is swerving between lanes, etc... I'm sure towing sparking garbage behind you ALSO qualifies!

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        • Profile picture of the author Brian John
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          LOANED a truck and didn't keep a key? What IS the word!? It doesn't make him look ANY better!
          agree. just trying to propose another way things might have happened, that's all.
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          The ******EPITOME****** of "carelessness and recklessness" is when, after being TOLD of the situation, indicating that you could NOT care less and continuing your reckless behavior! SORRY, he MADE that part of the case OPEN AND SHUT! A police officer could pull him in for being careless, reckless, AND drunk!
          also agree. my point however was that he may have been thinking he could get it all the way to where he was going w/o being stopped, and once he was stopped and told he figured he only has a few miles left. perhaps he stopped because by driving blindly and intentionally not listening to other drivers he knew he would have almost certainly had the cops immediately called on him. at least if he pulls over, people can see him stop and act like he gives a ___, then he can get on his way. not saying it's the right way to handle things, but it's a distinct possibility that he knew exactly what he was doing...something i hadn't heard anyone else suggest.
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          BTW a police officer DOES have some discretion as to what to consider reckless, and how to handle it. They COULD call this reckless, impound the vehicle, throw the driver in jail, and he could even get some time in jail and have his license suspended. After the suspension, he could get points driving the insurance rates up. HEY, one definition of reckless, that could trigger all of the above, is going 20 miles or more over the speedlimit! ANOTHER is swerving between lanes, etc... I'm sure towing sparking garbage behind you ALSO qualifies!
          and i agree w this as well. again, point is that there's a difference between being a nice guy that's a little stupid and made an honest mistake versus being a pissed off wealthy (or maybe just well-off) guy (who may or may not be stupid) that doesn't have any concern about being reckless and careless, at least in the way an officer might react to the situation and handle it.

          again, steve, just trying to present a different viewpoint of what might possibly have occurred other than "you can't fix stupid." please see post #15
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    That's right Brian, there are a lot of scenarios that could explain why he did what he did.

    I'd like to add that there's a big difference between doing something stupid and being all stupid all the time. I may not be the brightest guy in the room, but I don't think I'm stupid either. Yet, I've done stupid things.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brian John
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      That's right Brian, there are a lot of scenarios that could explain why he did what he did.
      "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle
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    Now this sounds bit complicated and confusing as well I'm impartial though!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Steve, I don't think anyone has said what he did wasn't stupid. But because he did something stupid doesn't mean he's stupid at everything, which was my original point.
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  • Profile picture of the author whland
    We all do something stupid now and again.

    I'll admit a stupid thing I did one day while trailering a car.

    A few years ago I was helping a friend move a car. I got the ramps out for my dads trailer, loaded the car up and then after tying the car down got in the pickup and went on down the road with the ramps dragging on the road.

    I got to the friends house with his car on the trailer and as I pulled into his yard he said, your ramps are still dragging behind the trailer. "Facepalm" Lol.

    They had dragged down the road the whole time and no one was around to notice. (This was in a small town with half the houses empty.) So there's not much traffic around.

    And the friend had already left to go to his house.

    That was a dumb moment for me. Luckily I wasn't flying down the highway with that trailer and those ramps dragging behind. It was just 5 blocks or so to his house.

    I always double check to see if the ramps have been put away now.

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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by whland View Post

      We all do something stupid now and again.

      I'll admit a stupid thing I did one day while trailering a car.

      A few years ago I was helping a friend move a car. I got the ramps out for my dads trailer, loaded the car up and then after tying the car down got in the pickup and went on down the road with the ramps dragging on the road.

      I got to the friends house with his car on the trailer and as I pulled into his yard he said, your ramps are still dragging behind the trailer. "Facepalm" Lol.

      They had dragged down the road the whole time and no one was around to notice. (This was in a small town with half the houses empty.) So there's not much traffic around.

      And the friend had already left to go to his house.

      That was a dumb moment for me. Luckily I wasn't flying down the highway with that trailer and those ramps dragging behind. It was just 5 blocks or so to his house.

      I always double check to see if the ramps have been put away now.

      Chad
      YEP, I'll admit to such things ALSO! If your friend HAD been there, and told you the ramps were dragging, would you have just let them continue to drag? I bet you WOULDN'T!

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      • Profile picture of the author whland
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        If your friend HAD been there, and told you the ramps were dragging, would you have just let them continue to drag? I bet you WOULDN'T!

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        Nope. I would've got out and would've slid the ramps back in the ramp storage under the trailer.

        If I would've been going down the highway they would've probably bounced out of the slot they were in and flew off into the path of another vehicle.

        I don't know how they even stayed in the slot while I was going through those dips in the road.

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