10 Humans With Real Superpowers

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  • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
    All are real, I think...except for the last one. John Chang (not his real name) used phosphorus in the newspaper to ignite it. It's a common enough Chi Kung trick.

    But the "charge" he generates from his stomach and hands? No idea. I think it may be real, but can't explain it. (Only because I don't know how to do it with tricks) I know the theory behind how it would work, and have spent considerable time studying Chi Kung. I've never experienced it myself, or seen it live. But who knows. I've studied this one guy (John Chang) and his demonstrations. Some are tricks, but a few seem very real. And I have an experienced eye.

    He's been tested several times with real lab equipment. The charges don't register as electricity. But the researchers feel something very real when he takes their hand. He had a lab assistant try to lay her palm on his stomach, and she couldn't touch him. Something repelled her hand so it was an inch (maybe) away from the skin. It's the only "Kung Fu" "Superpower" thing I've ever seen that I can't explain. And although none of his students have this ability, they have abilities that only very advanced Tai Chi practitioners exhibit. Interesting.

    The Human Calculator is the most impressive to me.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      The Human Calculator is the most impressive to me.
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      In addition to training yourself to become a human calculator,
      you can learn to count to over a million on your fingertips, and
      several dozen non-math related tricks.

      Most of the tricks are very simple and requires nothing more than practice... I'm working on the Hotel Dominic right now.
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        Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

        I'm working on the Hotel Dominic right now.
        You mean LOCI?

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          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          You mean LOCI?

          Steve
          It is an expansion on an expansion on LOCI.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    OK, I am calling FRAUD on the guy that CLAIMS he is IMMUNE to electricity! Even recently DEAD muscles have flinched, WILDLY with electricity. It is what basically runs nerves! So if he has a nervous system.... As for a live wire? NO wire is LIVE! There is a difference of potential! If you have two wires that are both +1000v, they are "live" and high voltage, but the potential difference is ZERO! So was he GROUNDED, or touching the other side of the potential? If not, BIG DEAL! BESIDES, WHO tries to fix such a wire anyway, without proper precautions? As for withstanding 200v, I have also. Of course, you lose control of certain muscles, because it DOES affect the nerves!

    As for lighting a bulb up in his hands? The conductivity of skin is too low, and BOTH contacts on an incandescent would have to be touched to make it light. The only other way would be intense heat but heat hot enough to light the filament would first shatter or melt the glass. Maybe he used a FLUORESCENT, near an old microwave or similar! THAT is an OLD TRICK, and has little to do with electricity in the body. They used to use that in the 1970s to check for shield leaks.

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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I believe that people are capable of amazing things.
    I also believe there are others who are capable of amazing acts of fraud just to reap the rewards.
    I believe some of these to be true and others to be well thought out scams.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      I believe that people are capable of amazing things.
      This belief is a great gift to give yourself.

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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Don Schenk View Post

      Here's a video at Youtube about Dynamo Jack. Facinating. He is even studied by a small group of scientist.

      :-Don
      He has been studied. And he gave himself willingly to any experiment. For about a year, I read books by his students, tried to find in depth information on Nei Kung ( Slightly different from Chi Kung). There have been multiple websites by his students, books written about him The Magus Of Java being the first I've read, and the best.

      No idea if everything he does is a fraud. But there is some I can't explain. Or rather, I can explain, assuming it's true. I just don't know if I believe it.

      The power he (maybe) generates is explained in full in old Chi Kung texts that I've bought. (Translation quality varies). They explain all the exercises, the methods, everything. But I've never actually seen anyone live, show the abilities these methods supposedly generate. It is interesting.


      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      I believe that people are capable of amazing things.
      I also believe there are others who are capable of amazing acts of fraud just to reap the rewards.
      I believe some of these to be true and others to be well thought out scams.
      Laurence: Most are just expansions of what we can do now, Explained with diligent training and practice. The guy that can withstand huge amounts of electricity? My Dad was an electrician, and used to twist live wires together. It didn't bother him. You get used to it.

      if you practice running in the freezing cold, your body adapts, if you practice holding your breath while diving, you can hold it longer, Mas Oyama could kill a bull because he practiced hitting steel and stone every day for years. The Swordsman practiced his strike every day for decades.

      If you practice a skill for ten years, you become amazing. The Human calculator maybe was just born that way, I don't know. Incredibly impressive though. I watched as he extrapolated out Pi to something like 20,000 places. It took hours. Never missed a neat.

      All these examples are shown on Superhumans, a TV show where people with unusual abilities are showcased. Some are frauds. But the ones here are all real, I think. Except maybe the Dynamo Jack section. That one still mystifies me. Except for starting the newspaper on fire. ( I should say that it's a common Chi Kung trick. I have no evidence that he used trickery.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    Wow! Add me to the list!

    I'm able to drink 6 beers and pee 12 without even blinking an eye. As I age I find that drinking 6 beers has given me the ability to pee/produce 18 and am now working toward outputting 24 with the same input while maintaining my present weight.

    I'm thinking about creating an e-book for males on the subject and Titling it "The Mad Bladder Ti Pee Method" Subtitle: "The Ying-Yang How To Guide"

    Lol, What do you think? j/k

    Have a Great Day!
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    I don't mean to be overly skeptical. After all, there are some fairly
    strange diseases and conditions in the world...

    Progeria
    Chromosome22q13.1 Duplication Syndrome
    Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva
    Aquagenic Urticaria
    Hypertrichosis
    Epidermodysplasia Verruciformis
    Trimethylaminuria
    Synesthesia


    ...And as terrible as those things are, why wouldn't evolution also
    produce a few rare, wonderful gifts in the opposite direction?

    But some of these, the "evidence" and the "experts" just seem
    a little questionable to me. And as pointed out, some of it
    is just trickery. Excellent tricks, to be sure! But not some
    strange genetic "superpower" a la Stan Lee's X-Men.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      I don't mean to be overly skeptical. After all, there are some fairly
      strange diseases and conditions in the world...

      Progeria
      Chromosome22q13.1 Duplication Syndrome
      Fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva
      Aquagenic Urticaria
      Hypertrichosis
      Epidermodysplasia Verruciformis
      Trimethylaminuria
      Synesthesia


      ...And as terrible as those things are, why wouldn't evolution also
      produce a few rare, wonderful gifts in the opposite direction?


      But some of these, the "evidence" and the "experts" just seem
      a little questionable to me. And as pointed out, some of it
      is just trickery. Excellent tricks, to be sure! But not some
      strange genetic "superpower" a la Stan Lee's X-Men.
      Mike; I saw Unbreakable too.

      Genetic mutations are almost nearly always harmful. But there are a few (I mean very few) males that are born without the gene to limit muscle growth. So they are hyper muscular and strong their entire life. It's actually a defect, but it means they are far stronger than normal. It's more common in cattle and Whippets.

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      But the people in the Stan Lee show almost always either have a great skill they have developed, or they train constantly to have a special physical adaptation that they developed.

      Power lifters develop incredibly strong tendons and joints. I know of a few grip strength devotees that have the bones in their hand far thicker and denser than normal, from hand conditioning and extreme grip training. Some strength athletes can use nearly all the muscle fibers in their forearms at once, giving them incredible grip strength.

      But very few have a genetic advantage. "Human calculator"? I don't know if it's genetic, or the result of extreme mental stimulation when very young.

      Some human calculators have a form of synesthesia, where they see shapes that represent numbers (I mean actually see them then doing math).

      And Mike, I've asked the same question myself. I wonder if there are "advantaged" people out there who don't know it. Sturdier bones, denser muscles, better vision than normal....it's a neat thought.

      Anyway, interesting stuff.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
        Interestingly, a genetic mutation that all humans have probably allowed for our large brain development.

        A mutation 2.4 million years ago could have left us unable to produce one of the main proteins in primate jaw muscles
        Powerful jaws may be incompatible with powerful brains, he suggests.
        Jaw-dropping theory of human evolution : Nature News

        As you said, interesting stuff.

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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Genetic mutations are almost nearly always harmful.
        Anyway, interesting stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    haha, yeah Unbreakable too, forgot about that one... Was only thinking of X-men.

    The thing is that anyone of average intelligence can develop the "human calculator"
    and quite a few other mental tricks, so I'm not sure if I buy that one as the result
    of either genetics or early stimulation?

    Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

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    That being said, you're exactly right, it's a neat thought... After all, evolution doesn't
    usually happen all of the sudden, X-Men style (or blue eyes style? haha)

    And yeah, I would think that almost all genetic mutations are actually
    defects, and only a very few are actually beneficial, and get passed on
    through natural selection?

    It's often easy to think of evolution as something that happened in the
    distant past, or to imagine it as something in the distant future. But the
    truth is probably more along the lines that it is always happening,
    slowly and in small numbers, and most of it is painful and miserable?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      haha, yeah Unbreakable too, forgot about that one... Was only thinking of X-men.

      The thing is that anyone of average intelligence can develop the "human calculator"
      and quite a few other mental tricks, so I'm not sure if I buy that one as the result
      of either genetics or early stimulation?



      That being said, you're exactly right, it's a neat thought... After all, evolution doesn't
      usually happen all of the sudden, X-Men style (or blue eyes style? haha)

      And yeah, I would think that almost all genetic mutations are actually
      defects, and only a very few are actually beneficial, and get passed on
      through natural selection?

      It's often easy to think of evolution as something that happened in the
      distant past, or to imagine it as something in the distant future. But the
      truth is probably more along the lines that it is always happening,
      slowly and in small numbers, and most of it is painful and miserable?
      Mike; Mutations are nearly always bad, but evolution is always beneficial, because it's the mechanism where we adapt to our environment. Mutations happen in one generation, evolution takes far longer.

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      All I know is Claude isn't on the list, so the list isn't true.

      Wake up and smell the coffee Warrior forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Mike; Mutations are nearly always bad, but evolution is always beneficial, because it's the mechanism where we adapt to our environment. Mutations happen in one generation, evolution takes far longer.
        Perhaps I'm missing or misunderstanding something here, but doesn't evolution
        happen in part because of mutation?
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

          Perhaps I'm missing or misunderstanding something here, but doesn't evolution
          happen in part because of mutation?
          Mike; I'm treading on thin ice here. This isn't a thread about evolution...

          But;

          If a mutation is beneficial, it gets passed on to future generation, because the carrier survived, and probably had several offspring. And bad mutations are harmful, and the carrier doesn't have offspring (or dies too young).

          Beneficial mutations are exceedingly rare, (many are lethal, just like today)..but they do happen. So yes, beneficial mutation is a trigger for evolutionary change. But far more often, it's a very slow process...mostly because the variations from generation to generation are very small, and take thousands of generations to become significant. I'm talking about larger complex animals, like mammals.

          Evolution is a process of adapting to an environment. Mutation is random, and isn't a result of adaptation. So the mechanisms are different. But a helpful mutation can be absorbed by the species, to speed up the evolutionary process.

          On the Galapagos islands, the same species of birds and reptiles show visible modifications after only a few hundred generations.(because each island has a different ecosystem) But these animals are still the same species, just variations. Major changes take far longer.
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    I would say this man trumps them all by a unreachable margin if true.

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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      All I know is Claude isn't on the list, so the list isn't true.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    No no, I asked a specific question because I honestly didn't know
    the answer... I don't think anyone is about to start a silly debate about
    the concept in general.

    Thanks for explaining!
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

      No no, I asked a specific question because I honestly didn't know
      the answer... I don't think anyone is about to start a silly debate about
      the concept in general.

      Thanks for explaining!
      Mike; You're certainly welcome. The subject has come up before and raises the hair on the back of some necks.
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  • Profile picture of the author ConfusedJ
    Mike, it was once thought, and is still accepted by many, sadly for unscientific reasons, that development happens via random mutations creating new or improved traits, which create survival advantages, and then become fixed in populations. These mutations produce minor differences, and then accumulate over eons producing major differences. This was Darwin's explanation for the engineering of life, and the view that many people have adhered to over the 154 years since the publication of On the Origin of Species.

    There's just one problem with such a view: It's ignorance-fueled nonsense which has failed the test of time.

    Unfortunately, due to decades of indoctrination, starting from grade school, on up, as well as enormous financial and emotional commitment from many in academia, it remains.

    If you want a more intelligent, more evidence-based view of evolution, ignore everything Claude is telling you and read only literature, peer reviewed or otherwise, from the past decade or so. James Shapiro's Natural Genetic Engineering is especially fascinating.

    In short, modern biology boils down to software (the genetic code) and hardware (the cell, and the machinery within), which both processes and is produced by the software.

    The most crucial implication of this revelation is that biology is far less chance-driven than was once thought*. Chance plays very little role in any aspect of development, which is very deterministic.

    The best example I can give you of the determinism of development is in a single organism, where lives develops (evolves) almost exclusively via internal processes. The information required to build and develop a human being is created during fertilization, and from then on, from fetus, to infant, to child, to adult, is simply a result of that information being processed. My belief, and it's a belief which blows Darwin's B.S. out of the water, is that the whole of biology follows the same pattern. When you look at the evidence from this perspective, namely the fossil record, which shows stasis followed by emergence, the whole of biology begins to make flawless sense.


    *This is why I called Darwin's views, and the views of Darwin's followers, ignorance-fueled. Neither Darwin nor his followers throughout the 19th and 20th centuries knew of the inner workings of the cell. They had no idea the engineering and design mechanisms within. What they did was, in that absence of knowledge, the filled in the gap with random mutations and natural selection. Darwin's "theory" is, at its heart, little more than an argument from the gaps. It's the closing of these gaps which has led me, and honest, educated biologists to abandon it.

    Sorry, this went on a bit longer than I expected. It's something of a passion of mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post

      Mike, it was once thought, and is still accepted by many, sadly for unscientific reasons, that development happens via random mutations creating new or improved traits, which create survival advantages, and then become fixed in populations. These mutations produce minor differences, and then accumulate over eons producing major differences. This was Darwin's explanation for the engineering of life, and the view that many people have adhered to over the 154 years since the publication of On the Origin of Species.

      There's just one problem with such a view: It's ignorance-fueled nonsense which has failed the test of time.

      Unfortunately, due to decades of indoctrination, starting from grade school, on up, as well as enormous financial and emotional commitment from many in academia, it remains.

      If you want a more intelligent, more evidence-based view of evolution, ignore everything Claude is telling you and read only literature, peer reviewed or otherwise, from the past decade or so. James Shapiro's Natural Genetic Engineering is especially fascinating.

      In short, modern biology boils down to software (the genetic code) and hardware (the cell, and the machinery within), which both processes and is produced by the software.

      The most crucial implication of this revelation is that biology is far less chance-driven than was once thought*. Chance plays very little role in any aspect of development, which is very deterministic.

      The best example I can give you of the determinism of development is in a single organism, where lives develops (evolves) almost exclusively via internal processes. The information required to build and develop a human being is created during fertilization, and from then on, from fetus, to infant, to child, to adult, is simply a result of that information being processed. My belief, and it's a belief which blows Darwin's B.S. out of the water, is that the whole of biology follows the same pattern. When you look at the evidence from this perspective, namely the fossil record, which shows stasis followed by emergence, the whole of biology begins to make flawless sense.


      *This is why I called Darwin's views, and the views of Darwin's followers, ignorance-fueled. Neither Darwin nor his followers throughout the 19th and 20th centuries knew of the inner workings of the cell. They had no idea the engineering and design mechanisms within. What they did was, in that absence of knowledge, the filled in the gap with random mutations and natural selection. Darwin's "theory" is, at its heart, little more than an argument from the gaps. It's the closing of these gaps which has led me, and honest, educated biologists to abandon it.

      Sorry, this went on a bit longer than I expected. It's something of a passion of mine.
      Step One; Ignore Claude
      Step Two; Believe the person behind the name ConfusedJ.

      Mike; He may well be right. He sounds intelligent, at least.

      But remember....Ignore me. That's the key to any intelligent argument
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      • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
        Excuse me while I ignore you...

        Step One: Reach into your bag of people-skills and call a large group of people ignorant.

        Step Two: Slip in a false statement in an attempt to bolster credibility for your own story.

        ...which has failed the test of time.
        Then, Step Three: Ignore Claude.
        But, is that really possible?

        Or... maybe he's just living up to his user name. Which he picked for himself.

        Joe Mobley


        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Step One; Ignore Claude
        Step Two; Believe the person behind the name ConfusedJ.

        Mike; He may well be right. He sounds intelligent, at least.

        But remember....Ignore me. That's the key to any intelligent argument
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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Guys; I'm going to look up James Shapiro's Natural Genetic Engineering. If there's a book, I'll read it. Who knows.

          Maybe he knows something I don't.

          Here's a link to a Wikipedia article about the subject of Natural Genetic Engineering.

          Natural genetic engineering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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        • Profile picture of the author ConfusedJ
          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          Step One: Reach into your bag of people-skills and call a large group of people ignorant.
          Biologists throughout the 19th and 20th centuries were very ignorant, not due to a lack of intelligence, but by being a product of the time. They thought they were enlightened at the time, but in hindsight, they were ignorant, and not just moderately so. Nearly everything they thought about life was wrong. Perhaps one day people will be saying the same thing about today's scientists.

          Bottomline: Darwin's theory (which isn't actually a theory, but a failed hypothesis) was borne out of ignorance. For Christ's sake, it was formulated 80 years before the invention of the electron microscope. Think about that for a moment. Darwin's theory was formulated when no one had any real clue what was going on inside the cell. It's no wonder that it's been such an enormous failure.

          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          Step Two: Slip in a false statement in an attempt to bolster credibility for your own story.
          My statement was entirely accurate. Nearly every line of evidence has contradicted the Darwinian model of evolution. This is why neo-Darwinism was formulated in the 1920's, and it's why biology is currently going through yet another revolution, although it's a revolution many are in denial over.


          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          Then, Step Three: Ignore Claude.
          But, is that really possible?
          Ah, but I didn't ignore Claude. In fact, I addressed his archaic, simplistic view of evolution in my very first paragraph. I simply suggested that his views be ignored, the same way you'd ignore someone who was preaching pre-Copernican geocentricism, or belief in a flat Earth. It appears your reading comprehension is as underdeveloped (unevolved? :p) as your knowledge of biology. Please work on that before you address me again.

          For the record, I mean no disrespect to Claude. I'm sure he's a nice guy, as am I. I don't wish there to be any ill will between he and I.

          Originally Posted by Joe Mobley View Post

          Or... maybe he's just living up to his user name. Which he picked for himself.

          Joe Mobley
          The only thing I'm confused over is why you felt that statement required two sentences, rather than a basic comma. :p
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        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        Step One; Ignore Claude
        People are just figuring this out??? :confused::confused::confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
    Dang-it Claude you led me astray yet again! :rolleyes:
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    This won't end well.
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  • Profile picture of the author ConfusedJ
    Look, I'm new here, and I'm here to continue to learn how to make money online. I don't want to do or say anything to get off on the wrong foot with the people here, and I certainly don't want to be banned, so I think I'll exit this thread now.

    Have a fine day, gentlemen.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post

      Look, I'm new here, and I'm here to continue to learn how to make money online. I don't want to do or say anything to get off on the wrong foot with the people here, and I certainly don't want to be banned, so I think I'll exit this thread now.

      Have a fine day, gentlemen.
      ConfusedJ:

      There is no reason to exit, unless you're simply no longer interested. You certainly won't be banned for disagreeing with anyone here.

      A lively debate is always welcome.
      A good joke, friendly jabs...even a pompous attitude (I submit myself as evidence) is welcome.

      Just keep it civil. Although you haven't sold me yet, you're obviously intelligent. We can always use more of that.


      Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

      This won't end well.
      Oh Rifflecent One...

      Sure it will. Unless you start showing us pictures of your tail again. :rolleyes:


      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post


      Ah, but I didn't ignore Claude. In fact, I addressed his archaic, simplistic view of evolution in my very first paragraph. I simply suggested that his views be ignored, the same way you'd ignore someone who was preaching pre-Copernican geocentricism, or belief in a flat Earth. It appears your reading comprehension is as underdeveloped (unevolved? :p) as your knowledge of biology. Please work on that before you address me again.
      Ok, being nicer might help. On the other hand, you make me laugh.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        ConfusedJ:

        Oh Rifflecent One...

        Sure it will. Unless you start showing us pictures of your tail again. :rolleyes:

        Hey, leave my wife outta this.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post

      Look, I'm new here, and I'm here to continue to learn how to make money online. I don't want to do or say anything to get off on the wrong foot with the people here, and I certainly don't want to be banned, so I think I'll exit this thread now.

      Have a fine day, gentlemen.
      You're being (constructively) teased. Don't worry about it, these are
      good guys. I would wager my last waffle that Claude was half-serious
      when he said you might be smart. :p

      In all seriousness though, I for one can appreciate when someone
      is passionate about something, and I appreciate the information as
      well.
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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

        You're being (constructively) teased. Don't worry about it, these are
        good guys. I would wager my last waffle that Claude was half-serious
        when he said you might be smart
        . :p

        In all seriousness though, I for one can appreciate when someone
        is passionate about something, and I appreciate the information as
        well.
        I was serious (about that point). I've already done a little research into Natural Genetic Engineering. It's interesting, but it delves into the cellular processes that I'm not very familiar with. This will make me learn more, so I can understand, and then decide if it makes perfect sense.

        Making me learn? Not a bad thing at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joe Mobley
      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post

      Look, I'm new here, and I'm here to continue to learn how to make money online.
      Simple, just use that wonderful personality that you have displayed in this thread. Your ignorant customers and business partners will be fine.

      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post

      I don't want to do or say anything to get off on the wrong foot with the people here,
      Somehow I'm visualizing Church Lady saying "Awkward."

      Originally Posted by ConfusedJ View Post


      Have a fine day, gentlemen.
      And you too.

      Joe Mobley

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