40 Armed Gun Advocates Intimidate Mothers Against Gun Violence In A Restaurant Parking Lot

If we use many of the anti-gun proponent's logic, we take away all the cars.

It's not an important issue, but I disagree that his opinion doesn't matter. It's just a matter of respect and I respect others points of views and their right to voice them whether I agree with them or not.

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... and therein lies the problem ... this fear mongering propaganda shoved down the throats of Americans by the NRA to protect their all important gun manufacturer's lobby.

THERE IS NOT a single piece of legislation that I have ever heard of that attempted to abolish or do away with the second amendment or take away people's guns. Frankly, that's a bunch of garbage. Proposed legislation has been in the realm of background checks and closing the gun show loophole to background check requirements (to try to keep criminals and nuts from legally buying guns), magazine size (and who really needs 20 bullets ready to go without reloading, except of course for mass murderers - Adam Lanza was using 30-round magazines), and a couple of other measures that attempt to reduce the number of innocent victims when crazies decide to go on a rampage.

Attempted bans on "assault weapons" go nowhere, and they probably should continue to go nowhere, as even the lowly little 22 caliber handgun is deadly. The main problem with them is that you can only kill a few people with them usually. There are guns that are manufactured that serve no real useful purpose to most (other than gun nuts). They aren't used for hunting (at least not fuzzy animal hunting) or competitions. They do bolster the egos of those card carrying gun nuts who want the biggest gun on the block (perhaps due to their smaller brain or penis size). A ban on assault weapons would punish the people (gun owners) with a love for competitive shooting and hunting and would do nothing to keep them out of the hands of criminals.

Attempts at some reasonable controls that the majority of the country already are in favor of have failed due to the NRA lobby. Gun manufacturers win and innocent victims/citizens lose.

State by state, as states get tired of their citizens getting mowed down by gun violence, controls will be voted in. Anyone who can forget about Sandy Hook in this discussion and all of the other recent rampages by maniacs with guns is someone I don't even care to have a conversation with. These people have political agendas that put guns above everything else.

Trust me. Wayne LaPierre's vision for this country of having "everyone armed" including school teachers will not come to pass. There are people who don't really give too much of a sh&t about guns and ammo and just want to go about their daily lives peacefully and survive it.

What makes sense to me is reasonable controls on guns and magazines with background checks, magazines that hold no more than 10 rounds and other common sense measures. I don't consider dead children to be irrational reasons, excuses or fears. I don't like it when I hear that 20 little children just died and all had numerous bullet holes in their tiny bodies. Adults victims bother me also and lack of empathy for innocent victims is unfathomable to me.

Hogre, I realize it can be difficult, especially on topics like this. Some of our regulars are... passionate... about some subjects, and can phrase things in ways that inspire similarly passionate responses.

We aren't taking sides on the issues discussed. All we ask is that things be kept reasonably civil. If you make that effort, it doesn't go unnoticed. Well, not when language and cultural differences can be taken into account...


Paul

TL,

I haven't read the whole thread, which is why I started with [sigh]. I warned everyone, though.

You got the "honorable mention" because you continued after that warning, in your usual style. If you haven't yet figured out what's wrong with that approach as it relates to posting here, no amount of explaining will work. And I don't care to waste the time arguing semantics with you all week.

Been there, done that, took the emetic.


Paul

LOL - I'm Sorry TL - that was meant as a joke. Please don't really do it.

Most of our military personnel here are avid gun owners when they are at home. They would be the first to recognize a govt. takeover here. I think most people mistakenly think that the military would automatically all be on the side of the Government. Not so.

Again - regulations are not effective for those who will not or can not obey the laws.

No need to arm them, just ease up the restrictions so that those who choose to exercise their right can have a chance to save others.

By the way - ease up on trying to predict what I wish. You have no idea what I wish - so let's stick with telling us your own wishes and let me tell mine. Thanks.