Just Like to Thank "OPEC" for This Christmas Present

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Woke up this morning, really did not want to go to work, month end as well as Year End. Since l own part of the company, l decided l would get a head start on the paper work, spend most of the day at the office.

Stopped for a cup of coffee and some gas. Wow, what in the hell is with the increase in gas prices today?

Gas prices had an increase of 8 cents per liter or 35 cents a gallon, huge increase concerning that the barrel only went up a dollar. Still under $98 US dollars, so why the huge increase.

Then l said to myself, some greedy prick over seas who could careless, but how much he makes, the only thing he cares about. Making 70 plus million a year, this is crazy, when so many regular everyday people can not even afford to drive their kids to sporting events.

I think it is time, Governments crack down on this type of manipulation, if gas prices where under 80 cents a liter or $2.00 a gallon, could you imagine the shape the economy would be in.

Hyperinflation would only be a rumor... But the greed factor has be put to an end...

How do we prevent this from happening, or we at their mercy?

Just messed my whole day. Then l get home, l said to myself did l turn off my heater in my office..... So yes l drove all the way back to my office...

Merry Christmas........ and "OPEC" thank you.... for taking the pleasure away from so many needy families.... enjoy your life style, well others barely afford to make ends meet...
#christmas #crude oil #gas prices #holidays #opec
  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Need to get rid of reps that are making personal kickback money from subsidy of these corporations. That simple.
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    • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
      Makes good sense to me, we need to start some where, l am sure there is a lot of kick backs, more then we can imagine..

      Some come right back to our back yard, l same that some one has this type of control...


      Hyperinflation, is caused by this greed factor.... everything goes up, due too transportation fee's, caused by fuel hikes.... simple and totally selfish....
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Need to get rid of reps that are making personal kickback money from subsidy of these corporations. That simple.
      Don't forget the TAXES those "reps" get! In the US, a 4 cent price increase means about 8 cents at the pump!

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      • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
        There is so much manipulation, that only has one goal, and nothing can stopped them, and that is the word "GREED!!"

        How much is enough?

        How long will it take someone to stand up to this issue?

        Why are we always getting screwed over, by the greed factor!!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Sorry it's hard to read - no time to redo the graph.

    Top 25 Congressmen with Holdings in Leading Oil Companies


    Congressman Low Estimate Average/Actual High Estimate
    Hayes, Robin (R-NC) $3,645,012 $8,572,506 $13,500,000
    Carter, John (R-TX) $1,000,001 $3,000,001 $5,000,000
    Freylinghuysen, Rodney (R-NJ) $950,008 $1,500,004 $2,050,000
    Sensenbrenner, James (R-WI) $1,133,985 $1,458,984 $1,783,983
    Marchant, Kenny (R-TX) NA 429,148 NA
    Sessions, Pete (R-TX) $215,003 $382,502 $550,000
    Whitfield, Ed (R-KY) $200,002 $350,001 $500,000
    Upton, Fred (R-MI) $195,005 $347,503 $500,000
    Maloney, Carolyn (D-NY) $151,003 $258,002 $365,000
    Price, David (D-NC) $130,003 $240,002 $350,000
    Doggett, Lloyd (D-TX) $116,003 $215,502 $315,000
    Berkley, Shelley (D-NV) NA $165,751 NA
    Goode, Virgil (R-VA) $100,002 $150,001 $200,000
    Buchanan, Vern (R-FL) $81,014 $148,007 $215,000
    Capito, Shelley Moore (R-WV) $66,003 $115,502 $165,000
    Cohen, Steve (D-TN) $65,002 $107,501 $150,000
    McCaul, Michael (R-TX) $46,004 $105,502 $165,000
    Knollenberg, Joe (R-MI) NA $92,500 NA
    Bono Mack, Mary (R-CA) $22,008 $88,504 $155,000
    Moran, Jerry (R-KS) $51,002 $83,001 $115,000
    Camp, Dave (R-MI) $32,004 $81,002 $130,000
    Oberstar, James (D-MN) $50,001 $75,001 $100,000
    Duncan, Jimmy (R-TN) $30,002 $65,001 $100,000
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  • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
    Once again thank you, some really interesting facts you have posted here!!!
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Report spam - but don't COPY it!!

        Please remove the quote in your post - the spammer is gone but you've given him links.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    One thing people RARELY realize is that regulations and taxes affect prices worse than anything else. Because of the lack of the keystone pipeline deal, a lot of gas is forced to go by TRAIN! That AUTOMATICALLY increases costs and puts money in Warren Buffets wallet! It ALSO means more gas must be used so any refining costs and taxes there are increased! That 8cents I spoke of earlier could become 10 cents! Have you looked at pumps lately? They charge a LOT more for diesel! If not for the fact that shipments were shipped in BULK, things would skyrocket just because of the GAS!

    Yeah, if you quote spam try to deface key terms, remove links, and remove other identifying language. They spam to things like this for two main reasons. ONE is to get another link to their site. If you leave a viable link, they get that. The other is to link it to key words. They like publicity though.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Sure - a pipeline would give us money - but it will destroy the environment. It's half past time that we get our excrement coagulated and start getting away from oil as much as we can.

    The first hemp fields are going into planting now. Do you know how many things we can make from hemp that we now make from plastic? Plastic takes oil. We do hella stuff more with oil than just drive and heat homes. The plastic bags we use at the stores take millions of gallons of oil a year to produce. We could have workers making bags out of paper from hemp - no loss in jobs or industry, but a lot less oil needed. That's just one example. Plus we get away from so many vile plastic toxins doing so.

    Also -- why does our gov take our tax money and subsidize companies that make multi-billion dollar profits every year? We need to do some hardcore firing - and if people won't recall/impeach -- they need to get their heads screwed on tight again and stop re-electing incumbents with conflicts of interests and selfish voting records.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Sure - a pipeline would give us money - but it will destroy the environment. It's half past time that we get our excrement coagulated and start getting away from oil as much as we can.

      The first hemp fields are going into planting now. Do you know how many things we can make from hemp that we now make from plastic? Plastic takes oil. We do hella stuff more with oil than just drive and heat homes. The plastic bags we use at the stores take millions of gallons of oil a year to produce. We could have workers making bags out of paper from hemp - no loss in jobs or industry, but a lot less oil needed. That's just one example. Plus we get away from so many vile plastic toxins doing so.

      Also -- why does our gov take our tax money and subsidize companies that make multi-billion dollar profits every year? We need to do some hardcore firing - and if people won't recall/impeach -- they need to get their heads screwed on tight again and stop re-electing incumbents with conflicts of interests and selfish voting records.
      Apparently a lot of the pipelines are ALREADY there, etc... And NOBODY cares who the dereks, etc..., belong to! If the US says we can't build, and gives them, AND MONEY, to mexico to build them, ALL it does is reduce US jobs and income! The pollution will STILL affect us, etc...

      I agree with the other stuff you talk about though.

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    • Profile picture of the author Hogre
      Can't you just use smaller block engines?I mean, a V8 or a V6 guzzles a lotta gas.

      What's the price of oil there? $4 per gallon?That's cheap.Here it's almost double that.
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by Hogre View Post

        Can't you just use smaller block engines?I mean, a V8 or a V6 guzzles a lotta gas.

        What's the price of oil there? $4 per gallon?That's cheap.Here it's almost double that.
        NOPE! Refined OIL costs about $21.2 give or take. Do you mean gasoline(aka, ironically, PETROL) In the US, it is about $3.40 in indiana for what they CALL gas.

        Few engines simply allow you to dial back, and so most would generally buy a whole new car to get a smaller block. STILL, that doesn't guarantee better usable mileage.

        BTW last I knew, most cars sold in the US WERE 4 cylinder! The following site says it is 55.8 for all vehicles. Since Boats generally use different engines, and large and medium trucks use different engines, and motorcycles use different engines, this would be for cars and light trucks. 6+ cylinder engines WILL appear in medium and larger trucks, so this implies that more than 55.8 of the car market is 4Cylinder. That is ESPECIALLY true if you realize that most of the larger and luxury cars have larger engines.

        Four Bangers Gaining In Popularity - HybridCars.com

        And look at the bullet points they have:

        * In 2008, there were five nameplates with more than 90 percent small-engine penetration in the U.S. market. Today, there are 11.
        * Five years ago, 10 nameplates did not even have engine options smaller than 6-cylinders. Today, only three brands in the U.S. market do not offer small engine choices in their lineups.
        * Four brands have 100 percent small-engine penetration in the U.S. market: Mini, Smart, Fiat, and Scion.
        * Volkswagen, Subaru, Hyundai, and Kia have well above 90 percent small-engine penetration.
        * GM’s Buick brand did not even offer a 4-cylinder engine in 2008, but now the brand has more than 50 percent in its sales mix.
        * Among the Premium brands, Audi has the highest 4-cylinder penetration, followed by BMW, which did not offer a single 4-cylinder engine in 2008.

        BTW that list is kind of stupid. Mini, Smart, Fiat, and Scion are SMALL cars. OF COURSE they have 100%! BMW, BUICK, and Audi tried to have more performance, so offered larger engines.

        Still, what is your point? Look at the mileage. It isn't THAT much better even in the HYBRIDS. if a person is concerned about the money, it will still have an impact. It is ironic that we call the stuff they pull out of the ground CRUDE OIL, and act like gas is the only thing they get from it.

        A LOT of the worlds problems, etc.... can be solved by doing just ONE thing! GET RID OF INFLATION! People could SAVE for school! SAVE for health care! SAVE for a house! SAVE for retirement! SAVE on all shipping! Buy more food! Not worry about the Minimum wage, CPI, or COLA! Be less concerned about when to buy! ETC...! Think of it! We are concerning ourselves about a symptom of a symptom of a symptom of a fatal disease!

        It is like we have lung cancer that is about to spread, and it has affected our lungs, which affected our oxygen intake, which made us look pale, and we decide to try to consult a cosmotologist to get some blush or whatever to make us look more normal. HEY, the skin problem will ONLY get worse! The oxygen problem will ONLY get worse! The LUNGS will ONLY get WORSE! And that cancer is just waiting to metastasize!

        People like Buffet will get LESS money! Payday loan companies will go BROKE! Most of wall street could VANISH! But retirees and seniors could finally RELAX!

        Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
    Thanks for a lot solid feedback, read them, overly impressed with some of the comments.. Interesting facts have also been shared...

    This is a topic that can be debated, without any real conclusions for the "Simple Reason" too much money rides on the above issues...

    Greed will always take over emotions....
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      The statement below was published on a blog in 2005 (when gas hit $3/gal) - eight years later not much has changed.

      With gas and oil prices at an all-time high, the alternative solution for residents throughout Amherst and the country for energy is hemp.
      It's good to be working on alternate energy sources but the truth is if you shut off the flow of oil completely tomorrow - people would be freezing, starving and dying before long. Food deliveries would stop, traffic would come to a halt...and we'd realize just how much we still depend on oil.

      I'm neither for nor against another pipeline but continuing to argue that any pipeline is environmental destruction ignores the facts. Of course there are negatives - but moving oil through a pipeline is safer than over road or by rail.

      Whatever alternative fuels end up emerging as best for energy production - they have to be not only available but affordable and reliable. My guess is we won't abandon big oil until global oil fields start running dry in 60-70 years or so. At that point the price of oil will be so high even the most expensive alternative fuels will look like a bargain.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hogre
    Seasoned,

    So it's $3,40 for a gallon?

    Well,I own a four cylinder Opel Astra Turbo Diesel that's comfortable,reliable and will take you from A to B without hassle.125 HP and 1.7 liter engine.Top Speed? Around 110.Do you need more?

    Last time I checked,the average consumption was 5.9 liters (a gallon and a half) per 60 miles.So the car spends under two and a half gallons per 100 miles.That's around $8.4.

    That's one heck of a mileage,wouldn't you agree?

    Hell, if we were suddenly in a position to pay the prices you guys pay over there,we'd have celebrations here for days!
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Hogre View Post

      Seasoned,

      So it's $3,40 for a gallon?

      Well,I own a four cylinder Opel Astra Turbo Diesel that's comfortable,reliable and will take you from A to B without hassle.125 HP and 1.7 liter engine.Top Speed? Around 110.Do you need more?

      Last time I checked,the average consumption was 5.9 liters (a gallon and a half) per 60 miles.So the car spends under two and a half gallons per 100 miles.That's around $8.4.

      That's one heck of a mileage,wouldn't you agree?

      Hell, if we were suddenly in a position to pay the prices you guys pay over there,we'd have celebrations here for days!
      Yeah, I forget what would happen, but putting normal "gas" into a diesel isn't a good idea. Diesel currently costs like .50 MORE/gallon, or a bit over 15% more A gallon and a half for 60 miles is about 40Mpg. For a diesel, I think that is decent. NOW, you obviously used a comma for a period. Either that was a mistake, or you are NOT American! Since you are talking liters, opel, etc... I'll say you clearly aren't American. That means you CAR likely isn't EITHER!

      Cars, in the US, are STATE dependent. GAS is TOO! so we can't say what your MPG is!

      Diesel Fuel vs. Unleaded Gasoline - CarsDirect

      My mileage has consistently been over 26MPG. But I DO have a Gas V6 3.4L 170hp Yeah, on an open road I could easily do over 110. About $13.8 versus your >$9.66.

      SERIOUSLY! SOME in california spent over $2500 in fines for removing the catalytic converter, which is REQUIRED in california. After removing it, the gas mileage shoots UP because the engine is better aspirated, etc...! If you remove the catalytic converter will you get better mpg? - Yahoo Answers

      Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author jfbmarketing
    So what did they do today, up the price as a New Year's thank you.... they are just too much... never ends...
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