We are slowly killing our wildlife

For what purpose, what have they done to you.

BTW, Africa is spelled with a Capital A.

Sorry my dear communist fellow, you will join the masses and worship the dear leader. He gets rich, you love him endearingly. There is no need for wealth or bagging lions on Safari, that's what your dear leader does.

You can't have your cake and eat it.

The only way killing a lion for no reason might be impressive, is if you take the lion on empty handed.

This statement shows your ignorance.

The let's hope you remain poor, or better yet, become a pauper. :rolleyes:

One can only hope and pray that you are correct. I'm not into "prayer," but I would take it up if it would assure the outcome that you envision and help speed things along.

Cheers. - Frank

Nature has NO such rule! We are taught the hard truth, or at least MY generation was, that things must ******NOT****** be the way they are, and then go on to do the opposite. So the fittest may be killed off, while the frail may flourish. Evolution in REVERSE!

At least ***I*** have this habit of resealing the bottles, so most of my caps WON'T do this. I ALSO don't throw them about. As for the STUPID idea of having runoff just go into the ocean? WHAT idiot thought THAT up? There is a LOT of garbage thrown in the streets, and there is salt and oil, as well as MANY toxins! Did YOU know that some streets are now FAR more dangerous in winter because they do NOT allow using salt? Salt can hurt plants, and they want to protect them.

It is surprising that things have worked as well as they have. Of course, MOST of this stuff will only last a few days or decades, and being about 3/4 water, it IS heavily diluted. That means that the logical outcome might not have been possible until about the mid 1980s, and it may STILL not become apparent for DECADES. Of course, as the population explodes, and they come out with more and more toxic things, it will become more likely that the effects will become obvious.

OH YEAH you say. This will NEVER happen! The idea of a quick accumulation that nobody notices until it is too late, and a slow breakdown will NEVER happen! RIGHT!?!?!? I mean that IS crazy, RIGHT? OK, OK, OK, I can think of only ONE close example that came really close to what I am talking about. It started in 1874. I don't know how many here have even heard of the guy. In 1939, someone found that it could be useful for some problems. In 1948, the guy in 1874 was given a NOBEL PRIZE! Sounds GREAT so far, HUH? Well, sometime after 1945, they let everyone use it. It was used world wide! People LOVED IT! Apparently around 1962(almost TWO DECADES) they started publicizing the disasters! MANY creatures started having still born young, and non viable eggs, etc... Clearly SOMETHING was wrong. VERY WRONG! Whole SPECIES were dying out! Some of this became apparent on virtually UNINHABITED ISLANDS! Eventually, they placed a WORLDWIDE BAN on the miracle chemical.

Maybe many of you have realized I am talking about DDT. DDT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia And PART of THAT problem may have been ocean runoff! Of all the toxins it would have introduced to the ocean, DDT is but ONE! They think ROUNDUP causes alzheimers! That is ANOTHER highly dangerous product, IN WIDESPREAD USE TODAY, that would be in that runoff. BTW I loved the stuff as an herbicide, but I don't buy or use it anymore.

Steve

That may very well be the worst piece of drivvel I've heard in years.

It did come across as rather mean-spirited but thats not what I meant

It's just the tone of the message is hard to convey on keyboards.

Now I look like a mean person thanks to you.

I didn't even see it. I just logged in and saw your post.

I'm sure it was nasty though. No problem though Social, it's all a bit of friendly banter.

What do you mean our wildlife?

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I'm not sure you meant for this to happen, but that's an interesting question.

No. I was talking about natural occurrences; volcanic eruptions, drought, viruses, plague, an ice age, a shift in the magnetic field, solar flares, meteors, pollution caused by changes in the water's PH level...anything not caused by us.

Of course, some of the things listed could be caused by us. I just meant the things that could happen without our directly causing them. For example, mass extinctions can be caused by lots of factors and lots of root causes. And, of curse...we can cause them too.

That may all be true. But given the sun has billions of years yet before swelling up and becoming a temporary red giant there is a lot of time for us to die out and for the Earth to recover, Co2 stays up for so many years and then will dissipate, methane gas will fall back down to earth. Cooler temps will return, life will start again. Plants will take hold. The Earth will actually be a dead ball of rock long before the sun engulfs it due to its atmosphere venting into space, the magnetic field failing and for many other reasons.

So, if we kill ourselves by overpopulation, pollution, poisoning, nuclear wars, whatever, it is heartening to know that life will start again and more than enough time for it to happen. We are a drop in the bucket time-wise, a blip in its history.

However, if we want to survive we change our ways, period, no argument. Less of us would be great. The Earth is estimated to be able to support 1 billion of us comfortably. Not 8-9. In 1955 there was only 1.5 bullion. Almost tolerable. If we had only that many people now, even using the same ways to get electricity and all the rest of our bad habits would allow the planet to recover somewhat. Pollution would go down a lot, consumption would also.

8-9 bullion people is not sustainable unless we start spreading out and making habitats across the solar system, like Mars. a radical curb in births (amounts of children allowed per couple) should be imposed. Even just that will help, aside from all the legit green energy ways and developments we may achieve in the future.

I hope it doesn't happen.

Ah ok. Thanks for clarifying Claude.

Still, aren't you answering my question with a tautology?

E.g. Alien invasions are not part of nature's doing because they are not natural.

An alien invasion by definition would not be caused by man (unless we send John kerry or Hillary Clinton to negotiate with them)

But let's say that if for example the the zergs (an alien race that does not use any technology) or the xenomorphs would invade earth... would it then be nature's doing

I wouldn't really hold my breath for the (even partial) extermination of humanity.