We are slowly killing our wildlife

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We are slowly killing our wildlife every single day.

People Should Know About This Awful Thing We Do, And Most Of Us Are Simply Unaware
  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    When i grow rich,

    I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
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    • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      When i grow rich,

      I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
      For what purpose, what have they done to you.

      BTW, Africa is spelled with a Capital A.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      When i grow rich,

      I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
      Sorry my dear communist fellow, you will join the masses and worship the dear leader. He gets rich, you love him endearingly. There is no need for wealth or bagging lions on Safari, that's what your dear leader does.

      You can't have your cake and eat it.
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    • Profile picture of the author peterj
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      When i grow rich,

      I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
      The only way killing a lion for no reason might be impressive, is if you take the lion on empty handed.
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      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
        Originally Posted by peterj View Post

        The only way killing a lion for no reason might be impressive, is if you take the lion on empty handed.
        Yeah but assault rifles are more fun (not to mention safer)

        The only person I think that could knock out a lion cold would be Mike Tyson.
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        • Profile picture of the author peterj
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          ......
          The only person I think that could knock out a lion cold would be Mike Tyson.
          Nope, your wrong there. Tyson lost his mojo sometime back.

          The only one able to knock out a lion is Tarzan!
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          The only person I think that could knock out a lion cold would be Mike Tyson.
          After reading all of your inane posts I have only one question. Where the hell is Mike Tyson when you really need him?

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    • Profile picture of the author teleam
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      When i grow rich,

      I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
      This statement shows your ignorance.
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    • Profile picture of the author AnniePot
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      When i grow rich,

      I'm going to buy an assault rifle and go to africa to hunt lions.
      The let's hope you remain poor, or better yet, become a pauper. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
        Originally Posted by AnniePot View Post

        The let's hope you remain poor, or better yet, become a pauper. :rolleyes:
        Hate much?
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        • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          Hate much?
          Some people just have a natural affinity for bringing out the worst in others. Troll, much?

          Cheers. - Frank
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          • Profile picture of the author socialentry
            Originally Posted by BigFrank View Post

            Some people just have a natural affinity for bringing out the worst in misanthropes. Humanist, much?

            Cheers. - Frank
            Fixed for you. Cheers to you as well buddy
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            • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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              Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

              Fixed for you.
              Your arrogance is apparently limitless. No surprise.
              Cheers to you as well buddy
              I pick my own buddies. Sorry, but you don't make the cut.

              Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author aceshigh888
    well humanity is kinda become a world virus. Eventually the planet might not be able to sustain all of us. But what can anyone do about it. There's not a thing you can do about it. Because you can't stop progress. The only thing that might stop all of this is if we had some meteorite hit the world and wipe out most people and whip out our modern consumer economy.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Nah, we're already tipping the scales. I'm pretty sure that we'll be all but wiped out in time to save many other life forms.
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    • Profile picture of the author BigFrank
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Nah, we're already tipping the scales. I'm pretty sure that we'll be all but wiped out in time to save many other life forms.
      One can only hope and pray that you are correct. I'm not into "prayer," but I would take it up if it would assure the outcome that you envision and help speed things along.

      Cheers. - Frank
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  • Profile picture of the author azzedinejamal
    But buddy when we are killing our wildlife's then we also pay tax to our government for new plants and also for country development and its nature's rule you have to do this for your existence.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by azzedinejamal View Post

      But buddy when we are killing our wildlife's then we also pay tax to our government for new plants and also for country development and its nature's rule you have to do this for your existence.
      Nature has NO such rule! We are taught the hard truth, or at least MY generation was, that things must ******NOT****** be the way they are, and then go on to do the opposite. So the fittest may be killed off, while the frail may flourish. Evolution in REVERSE!

      At least ***I*** have this habit of resealing the bottles, so most of my caps WON'T do this. I ALSO don't throw them about. As for the STUPID idea of having runoff just go into the ocean? WHAT idiot thought THAT up? There is a LOT of garbage thrown in the streets, and there is salt and oil, as well as MANY toxins! Did YOU know that some streets are now FAR more dangerous in winter because they do NOT allow using salt? Salt can hurt plants, and they want to protect them.

      It is surprising that things have worked as well as they have. Of course, MOST of this stuff will only last a few days or decades, and being about 3/4 water, it IS heavily diluted. That means that the logical outcome might not have been possible until about the mid 1980s, and it may STILL not become apparent for DECADES. Of course, as the population explodes, and they come out with more and more toxic things, it will become more likely that the effects will become obvious.

      OH YEAH you say. This will NEVER happen! The idea of a quick accumulation that nobody notices until it is too late, and a slow breakdown will NEVER happen! RIGHT!?!?!? I mean that IS crazy, RIGHT? OK, OK, OK, I can think of only ONE close example that came really close to what I am talking about. It started in 1874. I don't know how many here have even heard of the guy. In 1939, someone found that it could be useful for some problems. In 1948, the guy in 1874 was given a NOBEL PRIZE! Sounds GREAT so far, HUH? Well, sometime after 1945, they let everyone use it. It was used world wide! People LOVED IT! Apparently around 1962(almost TWO DECADES) they started publicizing the disasters! MANY creatures started having still born young, and non viable eggs, etc... Clearly SOMETHING was wrong. VERY WRONG! Whole SPECIES were dying out! Some of this became apparent on virtually UNINHABITED ISLANDS! Eventually, they placed a WORLDWIDE BAN on the miracle chemical.

      Maybe many of you have realized I am talking about DDT. DDT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia And PART of THAT problem may have been ocean runoff! Of all the toxins it would have introduced to the ocean, DDT is but ONE! They think ROUNDUP causes alzheimers! That is ANOTHER highly dangerous product, IN WIDESPREAD USE TODAY, that would be in that runoff. BTW I loved the stuff as an herbicide, but I don't buy or use it anymore.

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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by azzedinejamal View Post

      But buddy when we are killing our wildlife's then we also pay tax to our government for new plants and also for country development and its nature's rule you have to do this for your existence.
      That may very well be the worst piece of drivvel I've heard in years.
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  • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
    @socialentry

    I see that your reply to Richard has been deleted and rightfully so, that wasn't a very nice thing to say.
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      @socialentry

      I see that your reply to Richard has been deleted and rightfully so, that wasn't a very nice thing to say.
      It did come across as rather mean-spirited but thats not what I meant

      It's just the tone of the message is hard to convey on keyboards.

      Now I look like a mean person thanks to you.
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      • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
        Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

        It did come across as rather mean-spirited but thats not what I meant

        It's just the tone of the message is hard to convey on keyboards.

        Now I look like a mean person thanks to you.

        Nah, nobody seen the reply so what isn't there does not exist.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      @socialentry

      I see that your reply to Richard has been deleted and rightfully so, that wasn't a very nice thing to say.
      I didn't even see it. I just logged in and saw your post.

      I'm sure it was nasty though. No problem though Social, it's all a bit of friendly banter.
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      • Profile picture of the author socialentry
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        I didn't even see it. I just logged in and saw your post.

        I'm sure it was nasty though. No problem though Social, it's all a bit of friendly banter.
        It wasn't, it was in the spirit of "High ranking party officials also have privileges! Not only Kim Jung Un"

        But joseph takes offense for some reason? :confused:

        All I did was to express my wishes for hunting lions in africa with an assault rifle.
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        • Profile picture of the author joseph7384
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          It wasn't, it was in the spirit of "High ranking party officials also have privileges! Not only Kim Jung Un"

          But joseph takes offense to whatever I do for some reason? :confused:

          All I did was to express my wishes for hunting lions in africa with an assault rifle.

          No, I said it jokingly! Were cool.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

          It wasn't, it was in the spirit of "High ranking party officials also have privileges! Not only Kim Jung Un"

          But joseph takes offense for some reason? :confused:

          All I did was to express my wishes for hunting lions in africa with an assault rifle.
          No worries. I'm really not fussed.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            But buddy when we are killing our wildlife's then we also pay tax to our government for new plants and also for country development and its nature's rule you have to do this for your existence.
            Nature didn't invent the guns used to slaughter wildlife - man did. Nature didn't invent governments and taxes and killing for profit....man did.

            Under nature's rule - you live with other species and kill only when necessary for food or to protect yourself.

            Under nature's rule - every species has it's own place or layer in the hierarchy of living things. Man's intelligence put him at the top of the pyramid where he can choose to protect and maintain all the species or destroy species at will.
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            • Profile picture of the author socialentry
              Guys did anyone try this company,

              Is there anyone that can vouch whether or not there are companies that do the same with lions in Africa

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              • Profile picture of the author HeySal
                Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

                Guys did anyone try this company,

                Is there anyone that can vouch whether or not there are companies that do the same with lions in Africa

                Helicopter Hog Hunting with Machine Guns & Silver Star Helicopters!! - YouTube
                While lions, etc, are being poached - these companies don't last very long when hunting endangered species. They have to have permits to fly........and can't poach as easily as someone going in under the cover of forestry.

                I think we should up the game stakes on them and give them permits to shoot poachers instead.
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                • Profile picture of the author socialentry
                  Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

                  While lions, etc, are being poached - these companies don't last very long when hunting endangered species. They have to have permits to fly........and can't poach as easily as someone going in under the cover of forestry.

                  I think we should up the game stakes on them and give them permits to shoot poachers instead.
                  hmm....

                  I doubt that many would take up the offer. They'd shoot back, and they'd be well armed.They are genuine gangsters and in countries where there are lions, they would most likely find the company heads, and then they would shoot them when they sleep.

                  It would be like if you were selling a permit to kill the henchmen of Pablo Escobar...

                  Sorry Sal, I understand the point that rule of law needs to be established in countries where there are lions but vigilantism out of an American Arnold Schwarzenegger movie is not a realistic solution.

                  A more realistic solution would be to legalize all hunting activities so it can be properly regulated and that respect for the law is re-established.

                  They would also give a lot of income to African orphans that really need it.

                  "One lion dead save one orphan"
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    Those birds are stupid, they'll also try & eat rocks.
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  • Profile picture of the author bertyounger
    Not slowly but quickly killing our wildlife.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    We are slowly killing our wildlife
    What do you mean slowly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      We are slowly killing our wildlife...
      Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

      What do you mean slowly?
      What do you mean our wildlife?

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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

        What do you mean our wildlife?

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        Damn, that was clever. And meaningful.

        Our species takes more than it gives, and spreads to every environment.

        I first heard the "Virus" analogy in one of the Matrix movies. But I see the parallel.

        Although the short film was sad, it's really just one small problem, that is part of a much bigger problem. I think the solution is simply less people. But that is a very hard sell.
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        • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Although the short film was sad, it's really just one small problem, that is part of a much bigger problem. I think the solution is simply less people. But that is a very hard sell.
          Almost impossible to convince a species to limit itself voluntarily. Eventually, the planet is likely to shake off its excess harmful elements, like a dog shaking off water.

          After all, we're just visiting - the Earth is in it for the long haul.

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        • Profile picture of the author socialentry
          Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

          Although the short film was sad, it's really just one small problem, that is part of a much bigger problem. I think the solution is simply less people. But that is a very hard sell.
          We put Slobodan Milosevich and Heinrich Himmler to death.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Funny how people fixate on negative things when it comes to farm animals or wildlife.

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    Explosive growth nationwide
    New York's Department of Environmental Conservation estimates there are now 1 million deer living in the state. Nationally, the white-tailed deer population has increased from about 500,000 in the early 1900s to 25 million to 30 million today, according to various researchers.



    With voracious deer gobbling red oak, sugar maple and white ash seedlings, species like black birch and beech are gaining an edge. The loss of ground-level trees also removes habitat for several species of songbirds that need them for nesting.
    Should we eliminate the deer so songbirds can thrive?
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    i am always angry about chinese people killing dogs
    you can see youtube video
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    I wonder if extraterrestrials invade the earth and kill all lifeform include trees

    is it still nature's doing?
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      I wonder if extraterrestrials invade the earth and kill all lifeform include trees

      is it still nature's doing?
      I'm not sure you meant for this to happen, but that's an interesting question.

      No. I was talking about natural occurrences; volcanic eruptions, drought, viruses, plague, an ice age, a shift in the magnetic field, solar flares, meteors, pollution caused by changes in the water's PH level...anything not caused by us.

      Of course, some of the things listed could be caused by us. I just meant the things that could happen without our directly causing them. For example, mass extinctions can be caused by lots of factors and lots of root causes. And, of curse...we can cause them too.
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      • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I'm not sure you meant for this to happen, but that's an interesting question.

        No. I was talking about natural occurrences; volcanic eruptions, drought, viruses, plague, an ice age, a shift in the magnetic field, solar flares, meteors, pollution caused by changes in the water's PH level...anything not caused by us.

        Of course, some of the things listed could be caused by us. I just meant the things that could happen without our directly causing them. For example, mass extinctions can be caused by lots of factors and lots of root causes. And, of curse...we can cause them too.
        I just watched the Carlin clip. Plastics not bio-degradable, that's alarming. Millions of vacuum cleaners will survive, but none of them will work. Your legacy will be bitter sweet oh master.
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  • Profile picture of the author SamOne
    Interesting thread.. I know some people like to argue that climate is cyclical and that what we experience is normal... All I can say is that the northeast has had an unusually severe winter, while the west coast has been abnormally warm for this time of year.. In fact, there's a wiki article on the 2014 North American Cold Snap.. it's been that bad.. It's definitely obvious that the planet is changing and I think we all need to be aware of that.. It's not just North American's that are to blame either, so much pollution comes from China where the manufacturing industry is booming... I don't know what their regulations are on pollution but they're probably not good.. We all need to try and do something about it before it's irreversible, that's all I know.
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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    In the grand scheme of things, I would say we are doing it extremely fast.

    We have done more damage to this planet in the last Hundred years than all people before us since time began. Lol:confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    Coyotes are inhabiting urban areas because their natural habitat is being wiped out.
    Deer have become a traffic hazard for the same reason.

    Canadian Geese: the same.
    Bears, and Wolves: Ditto.
    How do you shoot a 30-06 big game rifle in a heavily populated suburb?

    At least 1/3 of Ohio's wetlands have wiped out because of urban sprawl.

    Dissertations have been written, entire seminars addressing the environmental and eco-system fall-out presented.
    But, as long there're $$$ to be made it won't stop.

    And don't get me started on the Global warming issue.
    "Smog Days" are taken for granted!
    "Don't go outside today because the air is unfit to breathe!"
    SERIOUSLY!
    Does anybody want to defend "Smog Days"?
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

      Coyotes are inhabiting urban areas because their natural habitat is being wiped out.
      Deer have become a traffic hazard for the same reason.

      Canadian Geese: the same.
      Bears, and Wolves: Ditto.
      How do you shoot a 30-06 big game rifle in a heavily populated suburb?

      At least 1/3 of Ohio's wetlands have wiped out because of urban sprawl.

      Dissertations have been written, entire seminars addressing the environmental and eco-system fall-out presented.
      But, as long there're $$$ to be made it won't stop.

      And don't get me started on the Global warming issue.
      "Smog Days" are taken for granted!
      "Don't go outside today because the air is unfit to breathe!"
      SERIOUSLY!
      Does anybody want to defend "Smog Days"?
      That may all be true. But given the sun has billions of years yet before swelling up and becoming a temporary red giant there is a lot of time for us to die out and for the Earth to recover, Co2 stays up for so many years and then will dissipate, methane gas will fall back down to earth. Cooler temps will return, life will start again. Plants will take hold. The Earth will actually be a dead ball of rock long before the sun engulfs it due to its atmosphere venting into space, the magnetic field failing and for many other reasons.

      So, if we kill ourselves by overpopulation, pollution, poisoning, nuclear wars, whatever, it is heartening to know that life will start again and more than enough time for it to happen. We are a drop in the bucket time-wise, a blip in its history.

      However, if we want to survive we change our ways, period, no argument. Less of us would be great. The Earth is estimated to be able to support 1 billion of us comfortably. Not 8-9. In 1955 there was only 1.5 bullion. Almost tolerable. If we had only that many people now, even using the same ways to get electricity and all the rest of our bad habits would allow the planet to recover somewhat. Pollution would go down a lot, consumption would also.

      8-9 bullion people is not sustainable unless we start spreading out and making habitats across the solar system, like Mars. a radical curb in births (amounts of children allowed per couple) should be imposed. Even just that will help, aside from all the legit green energy ways and developments we may achieve in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWaters
    I find the flow of this thread rather interesting. It starts off with an excellent video about human's interaction with our environment and very quickly went off on a tangent. Most of the comments here are unrelated to the points made in the video / documentary.
    Perhaps this indicates people's natural tendency to deny their negative effects on the planet. Sort of the head in the sand mentality, a coping mechanism.
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    • Profile picture of the author socialentry
      Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

      I'm not sure you meant for this to happen, but that's an interesting question.
      I hope it doesn't happen.

      No. I was talking about natural occurrences; volcanic eruptions, drought, viruses, plague, an ice age, a shift in the magnetic field, solar flares, meteors, pollution caused by changes in the water's PH level...anything not caused by us.

      Of course, some of the things listed could be caused by us. I just meant the things that could happen without our directly causing them. For example, mass extinctions can be caused by lots of factors and lots of root causes. And, of curse...we can cause them too.
      Ah ok. Thanks for clarifying Claude.

      Still, aren't you answering my question with a tautology?

      E.g. Alien invasions are not part of nature's doing because they are not natural.

      An alien invasion by definition would not be caused by man (unless we send John kerry or Hillary Clinton to negotiate with them)

      But let's say that if for example the the zergs (an alien race that does not use any technology) or the xenomorphs would invade earth... would it then be nature's doing

      I wouldn't really hold my breath for the (even partial) extermination of humanity.
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