Ancient City Found in India, Irradiated from Atomic Blast

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Radiation still so intense, the area is highly dangerous. A heavy layer of radioactive ash in Rajasthan, India, covers a three-square mile area, ten miles west of Jodhpur. Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.

For some time it has been established that there is a very high rate of birth defects and cancer in the area under construction. The levels of radiation there have registered so high on investigators' gauges that the Indian government has now cordoned off the region.

Scientists have unearthed an ancient city where evidence shows an atomic blast dating back thousands of years, from 8,000 to 12,000 years, destroyed most of the buildings and probably a half-million people.

One researcher estimates that the nuclear bomb used was about the size of the ones dropped on Japan in 1945.

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Consider these verses from the ancient (6500 BC at the latest) Mahabharata:

…a single projectile
Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as the thousand suns
Rose in all its splendour…
a perpendicular explosion
with its billowing smoke clouds…
…the cloud of smoke
rising after its first explosion
formed into expanding round circles
like the opening of giant parasols…

..it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.
…The corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognisable.
The hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected…
…to escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment.


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  • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
    Very interesting, gives a lot of credibility to the idea that 12,000 years ago Atlantis and India were the dominant, very advanced countries that had an atomic war!

    Also explains the very advanced leftovers found on the Earth and moon!


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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Very interesting, gives a lot of credibility to the idea that 12,000 years ago Atlantis and India were the dominant, very advanced countries that had an atomic war!

      Also explains the very advanced leftovers found on the Earth and moon!


      Shane
      Last I heard, (over 20 years ago) there has not been one shred of real physical evidence supporting the existence of the place called Atlantis.

      Please correct me if new info has been made available.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Last I heard, (over 20 years ago) there has not been one shred of real physical evidence supporting the existence of the place called Atlantis.

        Please correct me if new info has been made available.
        I know a guy whose cousin knows someone who wrote a story about remote viewing. This blogger who wrote the story said he knew someone whose neighbor has an aunt who is a remote viewer, and this guy said his aunt "definitely saw Atlantis and Lemuria" during a remote viewing session. So this guy drew an actual map showing where it used to be!!!

        You have been corrected. :rolleyes:
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      • Profile picture of the author seasoned
        Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

        Last I heard, (over 20 years ago) there has not been one shred of real physical evidence supporting the existence of the place called Atlantis.

        Please correct me if new info has been made available.
        There is LOTS of evidence of one or more advanced civilizations being around that were VERY advanced for what people believed, given the period. There is ALSO evidence of disasters like that said to have happened to atlantis happening to several. In short, there is MORE evidence than existed for POMPEII, which WAS found.

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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

          There is LOTS of evidence of one or more advanced civilizations being around that were VERY advanced for what people believed, given the period. There is ALSO evidence of disasters like that said to have happened to atlantis happening to several.

          In short, there is MORE evidence than existed for POMPEII, which WAS found.

          Steve
          Pompeii wasn't really all that ancient. The disaster happened in 79AD.

          I visited in (I think it was) 2012.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

      Very interesting, gives a lot of credibility to the idea that 12,000 years ago Atlantis and India were the dominant, very advanced countries that had an atomic war!

      Also explains the very advanced leftovers found on the Earth and moon!


      Shane
      Interesting, I never heard any of that, except about atlantis. Still, Any ancient text is SUSPECT!

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    Sun turn black, fall from sky, uh..., big rock go bang, make big hole, ugh...




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  • Profile picture of the author bravo75
    I fail to see how this thread correlates with the myth of Atlantis. :confused:
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    I asked my son, 3 going on 4, what he thought of it and he pointed out, "'The Lego Movie' is playing in the movie theater now." So, there you go, Dennis Gaskill.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I don't see why this is so shocking. Archaeologists already know there were advanced civilizations before. The Smithsonian itself has enough crap hidden in their wearhouses to completely change our view of history. Modern items have been found - more than rarely - embedded in coal in mines. I know several explorers - scientists that have found what they were not able to get to the public. Not sure why it's so disastrous for us to know, but for some reason it's forbidden. All we know for sure is that there were societies that were extremely old, and nobody wants us to know that for whatever reason. From my years in the field, the only thing I know for sure is that we are fed a nice cozy load of crap when it comes to ancient history.

    Consider this. We think we're the most advanced, intelligent humans to ever hit the face of the planet. Look what we are doing to it. GMO everything - extreme poisoning of air, water, soil with all sorts of chemicals, there's warfare, genocide, there's nukes, there's leaders who starve their people to line their own pockets. Yet we feel we are advanced? How much longer will it take us to destroy most of earth as we know it. Yet we laugh at the possibility that it happened before?

    I'm not saying this article is likely true, or likely false. It's likely I'll never meet these archaeologists or have time to study up on it. I'm just saying that we should not be so smug about what we think we know. A lot of it is so bizarrely incorrect that it's just silly -- and the reasons for it always end at the same place. Money. Greed.
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    • Profile picture of the author lanfear63
      Look Guys.

      Everybody knows that the Annunaki came to the Earth thousands of years ago and genetically modified the hairy hominids they found to become humans. The remains of their human manufacturing plant is in Africa. I know because this came from a coast to coast 4 hour radio broadcast on you-tube. (seemed like it) and they are always true!

      There was actually no genetic material around to make humans at all and we would nave not ever have come into being without the intervention, so it had to be modified. What they created was a semi-intelligent species who would see them as gods and could be ordered about to mine gold for them. The Annunaki were really lazy and did not want to do it themselves. In return, they gave us some technology and I pads.

      When they had enough gold they decided to hi-tail it out of here back to Niburu. Some however stayed and interbred and setup Atlantis and a few other hi-tech cities. Unfortunately the weather and volcanoes destroyed most of it and the rest was destroyed by some H-Bombs they had lying around. Was just supposed to be a spectacular firework display but they misread the instructions.

      And that is the true history of the world. You may now delete this thread.

      Disclaimer: Names and places have been changed to protect the deceased.

      Another Disclaimer: Actually although a parody their is the possibility of some grains of truth in some of the above.

      Ultra reliable source material here!

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by lanfear63 View Post

        Look Guys.

        Everybody knows that the Annunaki came to the Earth thousands of years ago and genetically modified the hairy hominids they found to become humans. The remains of their human manufacturing plant is in Africa. I know because this came from a coast to coast 4 hour radio broadcast on you-tube. (seemed like it) and they are always true!

        There was actually no genetic material around to make humans at all and we would nave not ever have come into being without the intervention, so it had to be modified. What they created was a semi-intelligent species who would see them as gods and could be ordered about to mine gold for them. The Annunaki were really lazy and did not want to do it themselves. In return, they gave us some technology and I pads.

        When they had enough gold they decided to hi-tail it out of here back to Niburu. Some however stayed and interbred and setup Atlantis and a few other hi-tech cities. Unfortunately the weather and volcanoes destroyed most of it and the rest was destroyed by some H-Bombs they had lying around. Was just supposed to be a spectacular firework display but they misread the instructions.

        And that is the true history of the world. You may now delete this thread.

        Disclaimer: Names and places have been changed to protect the deceased.

        Another Disclaimer: Actually although a parody their is the possibility of some grains of truth in some of the above.

        Ultra reliable source material here!

        WOW - 200,000 Year Old Annunaki Cities Discovered in Africa!!! - YouTube
        Hey - that's a pretty accurate interpretation of the Enuma Elish (Sumerian Creation legend). I imagine if you laughed at that view back in Ancient Sumeria they would not have taken it well.

        Actually - there is a ruin that old in Africa, but I'm not sure how exactly "advanced" it could be considered. It's at least up there with the 130,000 year old beads that come from S.W. Africa. Yep, we might or might not have had technology back then, but we did have bling.
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  • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
    Here's a question for you.

    India has been testing atomic weapons since the 1970's.

    How do we know for sure this did not come from any of that?
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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      Here's a question for you.

      India has been testing atomic weapons since the 1970's.

      How do we know for sure this did not come from any of that?
      Dunno, I thought it was a pretty interesting article and worth sharing. It also amuses me to read the comments of some of the more smug and ignorant members of this community.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeTucker
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        Dunno, I thought it was a pretty interesting article and worth sharing. It also amuses me to read the comments of some of the more smug and ignorant members of this community.
        Yeah, I've often marveled at your ability to throw up
        one controversial thread after another.

        As for this one, the credibility dies for me when Answers.com
        and Wikipedia.org are the first two sources cited in the
        bibliography. :p
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        • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
          Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

          Last I heard, (over 20 years ago) there has not been one shred of real physical evidence supporting the existence of the place called Atlantis.

          Please correct me if new info has been made available.
          No, probably not directly, but if you find very advanced stuff here and on the moon, that dates to that time, then it is likely!

          Examples of things that have been verified, but still buried are...

          • A spacecraft found in fast polar orbit, (NASA has taken enough shots of this, so it is real. And asteroids in my book don't have windows and rusted plating on them!

          • A 2 or 3 km high tower found on the moon, also verified by moon orbit images. Assumed to be very old!

          • Then the usual spacewarp plane episodes found near Bermuda, and UFO,s found here and there, but this is getting into less verified territory!

          • And then we have the shuttle type UFO following the Apollo astranauts to the moon, probaby the best UFO video footage ever taken, and hinting someone or something is on Earth!

          You can Google the last one! :rolleyes:


          No, plenty of evidence pointing to this, but as far as l know not directly.


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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by MikeTucker View Post

          Yeah, I've often marveled at your ability to throw up
          one controversial thread after another.

          As for this one, the credibility dies for me when Answers.com
          and Wikipedia.org are the first two sources cited in the
          bibliography. :p
          I like controversy - it makes people think.

          Actually, I didn't watch the video here or click the links. I learned about the extreme ancient settlement ruins in Africa years back. What is a shame is that when the "officials" are too jealous of their positions and money to allow publication about the truth about some finds, the information gets distorted when people dig it up from other sources.

          One thing about the so called "conspiracy theorists" is that they don't just blindly accept the word of authority -so they look further than publicly published info for reality. All the papers on this type of finding exist somewhere as research teams keep very extensive records - the info just has never been PUBLISHED by the authorities. Some of it is buried by the head haunchos because it refutes work of their own and would jeopardize their own wallets and standing.

          Anyway - so you get the average joe blow with his own quirks or agendas digging up the info and adding their own slant to it and everyone else thinks the whole kit and kaboodle is nonsense. There are 200,000 year old settlement ruins. I have never once heard that it was a radioactive area. Never once. You'd think the archaeologists involved there would have known that fact from the get. Not saying it can't happen, though - and not saying that an atomic bomb would have to be the source. Uranium is radioactive and it's natural. It could be from fallout drift from somewhere else, too. I will say, though - that legends are often used to corroborate histories of ancient ruined civilizations and people. Need more info on this one to make a strong judgement either way. Not sure I'll ever take the time required for this one, though. If it's been found radioactive, sooner or later that will be public knowledge because they'll have to keep people out of there.
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          • Profile picture of the author Big Rob
            Quite possible it could have been an extraterrestrial event, (as in meteoric, sorry Shane), or, the last time we humans extinguished ourselves and the planet healed itself. There has been an estimated five such occurrences in the past 540 million years....

            Has the Earth's sixth mass extinction
            already arrived?

            Okay, I made the Human part up

            It was a sensemilla-fueled vision I experienced 30 or so years ago.

            So in my mind it is true.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle

              Rob, I tried reading that pdf and my eyes glazed over and drool started pouring from my mouth. I haven't had a full-on Homer Simpson moment in years. Thanks for making me feel stupid.
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      • Profile picture of the author Floyd Fisher
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        Dunno, I thought it was a pretty interesting article and worth sharing. It also amuses me to read the comments of some of the more smug and ignorant members of this community.
        Look deeper.....IIRC, that was one of the nuke testing grounds.
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        • Profile picture of the author bravo75
          Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

          Look deeper.....IIRC, that was one of the nuke testing grounds.
          In Pokhran, 1974. The radiation detected here is 8,000 to 12,000 years old.
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          • Profile picture of the author Kay King
            It also amuses me to read the comments of some of the more smug and ignorant members of this community.
            I'm amused at what people are willing to believe....

            I noticed the lack of a date on the wikidot article - so I did some digging. This theory has been put forward for over a dozen years now...

            ... how "alternative history" authors use misleading quotations and sloppy scholarship to essentially invent atomic wars that never happened
            -- "Ancient Atom Bombs: Fact, Fraud, and the Myth of Prehistoric Nuclear Warfare" - Jason Colavito

            Ancient Atom Bombs - JasonColavito.com


            More opinion and insight such as the quotes below are on
            Ancient Nuclear Warfare | Ancient Aliens Debunked


            These exact claims about the hair and nails falling off and an explosion brighter than a thousand suns have been repeated by Ancient Astronaut theorists so many times that they think it's true, but the origin of this line was from a French book called "Morning of the Magicians"
            The actual reference used says hair and nails were eaten by rats but that part is omitted as it doesn't fit the story line.

            "This passage, which mentions the ten thousand suns, refers to an appearance of Vishnu. It is representative of many, many passages in which the standard poetic line "ten thousand suns" is used to describe a deity. It does not refer to the specific flash of a nuclear blast unless one imagines the gods to be exploding."
            The link in the OP claims "The Mahabharata clearly describes a catastrophic blast that rocked the continent" - while the "debunk" site says....

            No one that makes this claim will actually name the page where in the Mahabharata this claim appears. Which makes it very difficult for people to call them out on this, because the Mahabharata contains over 1.8 million words, so if you just say, "it's in there somewhere, just trust me," you can pretty much get away with anything.
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            • Profile picture of the author bravo75
              I'll have to try that sometime. Someone starts a controversial thread. Do a quick Google search and post some crap from the first debunk site I find and act like it's gospel.

              It will make me look like I know what I am talking about and the case is closed. LMAO.

              Shills and debunkers are just as bad as the idiots spreading false crap on the internet.

              Btw, Jason Colavito's debunk theory was debunked a long time ago. Wait a mintute.. Debunkers being debunked by debunk debunkers...? Debunk Busters!

              Sorry, it's the conspiracy theorists being debunked and then hitting back at the debunkers. I get confused sometimes.
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              • Profile picture of the author Kay King
                I'm not a conspiracy theorist - here or anywhere else.

                What is odd is to post an old and controversial theory as if it is "newly discovered" while ignoring other views on the subject.

                This isn't a new theory - it's been around for a while and I've read stuff about it before.

                Scientists are investigating the site, where a housing development was being built.
                I began looking because I wanted to know more about this "news" - and what I found is it isn't news at all. There are no current stories about it - there are no press releases or government agency documents or stories of people in the area.

                What I found is you are telling one side of an old, controversial theory without giving any information about the lack of scientific evidence, or links to factual information about the event or the area.

                Damn, what was I thinking....oh, wait, guess I should say "sorry for thinking"....

                Putting this in the Sasquatch pile and leaving now....
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                • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
                  Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

                  I'll have to try that sometime. Someone starts a controversial thread. Do a quick Google search and post some crap from the first debunk site I find and act like it's gospel.

                  It will make me look like I know what I am talking about and the case is closed. LMAO.

                  Shills and debunkers are just as bad as the idiots spreading false crap on the internet.

                  Btw, Jason Colavito's debunk theory was debunked a long time ago. Wait a mintute.. Debunkers being debunked by debunk debunkers...? Debunk Busters!

                  Sorry, it's the conspiracy theorists being debunked and then hitting back at the debunkers. I get confused sometimes.
                  Well some want their radial tyres and color tv, and to live comfortably in their houses!

                  And will fight to the death anything that disrupts that!


                  Even if it is a lie!

                  After all, all aliens are evil, controlling socialpaths, that want to do experiments at a drop of a hat, or scare the crap out of us, whenever they can?

                  Or at least that is what gov, want us to believe!

                  Other civilizations aren't as f***** as we are! Thankfully!


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      • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
        Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

        Dunno, I thought it was a pretty interesting article and worth sharing. It also amuses me to read the comments of some of the more smug and ignorant members of this community.
        I claim "Smug". Smug is mine! All included, no reverses!

        The rest of you can fight over "Ignorant".


        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Blah, blah... my eyes glazed over and drool started pouring from my mouth. Blah, blah

        Anyone want to buy that picture? I sure do.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Floyd Fisher View Post

      Here's a question for you.

      India has been testing atomic weapons since the 1970's.

      How do we know for sure this did not come from any of that?

      SO YOU think they have known about this for THOUSANDS of years, but started working with it like 25 years after WWII? WHY didn't the BRITISH find out? Had they found out through normal channels, as the world suspects, you figure they may have had no real idea until maybe 1950 or so. Getting the plans and financing could have gone to 1965 or so, and maybe 5+ years of development, and the timing seems about right. Look at IRAN! They started in the 1950s, and STILL may not have enough core material! of course it IS a dictatorship and a mess now.

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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Scientists have been pretty much an agreement that we are in the middle of the 6th great extinction right now. It's not "theory". At the rate of species extinction, it's an undeniable fact. What the issue is now is how do we stop it - or can we.

    This is actually the situation that started the UN Milleneum doctrine talks in 1990.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Big Rob View Post

      Quite possible it could have been an extraterrestrial event, (as in meteoric, sorry Shane), or, the last time we humans extinguished ourselves and the planet healed itself. There has been an estimated five such occurrences in the past 540 million years....

      Has the Earth's sixth mass extinction
      already arrived?

      Okay, I made the Human part up

      It was a sensemilla-fueled vision I experienced 30 or so years ago.

      So in my mind it is true.
      Yep, possible, but l am not sure that a meter could create radiation that lasts for more than 12,000 years?


      Yep, we are in a mass extinction, hysteria about global warming, and associated deaths from believing in it, will probably kill most off in the next 90 years! :rolleyes:

      Then more will keel over, if it doesn't happen and their Global Warming stock plummets! He, he!

      But before then we should be able to resurrect the saber tooth tiger and Wooly Mammoth. They got clobbered last time, so they deserve a second change!


      Although they will probably end up on an island near Hawaii, (Durassik park II) spare no expense!!!


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    • Profile picture of the author bravo75
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Scientists have been pretty much an agreement that we are in the middle of the 6th great extinction right now. It's not "theory". At the rate of species extinction, it's an undeniable fact. What the issue is now is how do we stop it - or can we.

      This is actually the situation that started the UN Milleneum doctrine talks in 1990.
      When you look at the bible and interpret it's content properly, particularly Genesis, you realize that it talks of nothing less than a mass extinction somewhere in the farthest reaches of deep antiquity.

      It's clear that Genesis is borrowed from the Sumarian texts. Jehova didn't build the world in seven days but the Elohim god(s) known as Nephilim resurrected Earth and created man through genetic engineering.

      The more ancient manuscripts of Genesis take for granted the planet earth had been in existence but had become a wasteland eons before the Genesis story begins.

      “In the beginning - the earth was a wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss”. (Genesis 1:1&2 New
      American Bible)

      This story goes on and describes how the gods oversaw the evolutionary process by which the planet earth begins to recover from its darkness and abyss and became an inhabitable planet.

      The evolutionary process, plant life was first to develop, then all living creatures after
      his kind and how mankind came into existence.

      It is true that (god) created man in his own image. Not so much in appearance but in mankind's character traits. We have the same flaws as our gods. A chip of the old block if you like.

      Greed, selfishness, power hunger, egotism etc. are all traits we inherited from our creators.

      Therefore, if one can take this theory into consideration, one realizes that it is not unlikely that our gods fought wars against each other as well.

      One of these wars is clearly described in the Mahabharata.

      Furthermore, if one can wrap their head around this and get away from stubborn blind faith, then stuff like giants, Annunaki, Reptilians and aliens don't seem so far fetched after all.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by Midnight Oil View Post

      What appears to be the actual translated text can be found here:
      The Mahabharata, Book 16: Mausala Parva: Section 1
      The Mahabharata, Book 16: Mausala Parva: Section 2

      Translated by Kisari Mohan Ganguli [1883-1896]
      Kisari Mohan Ganguli - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      It lost a LOT in the translation!

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      • Profile picture of the author bravo75
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        It lost a LOT in the translation!

        Steve
        It's true that a lot gets lost in translation, it always does. However, the fact remains that the Mahabharata tells of warring "gods" who used (at the time) unexplainable weapons of mass destruction.
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        • Profile picture of the author HeySal
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          It's true that a lot gets lost in translation, it always does. However, the fact remains that the Mahabharata tells of warring "gods" who used (at the time) unexplainable weapons of mass destruction.
          Even that could be taken many ways depending on the culture's level of technology. If they were severely primitive, that could mean lightning and tornadoes. If their level of science recognized "weather" as a natural event - then it could mean a host of things, from advanced technology to aliens.

          One thing we know for sure is that there were civilizations far older than believed just a decade ago -- and there was technology we didn't know about a decade ago -- and that many civilizations were lost and unknown to us at all until relatively recently. Who knows what is being discovered now and not talked about yet -- or what there is yet to find. We know humans existed long before we used to think they did. In light of what we're doing to our ecosystems now and in light of the atomic bombs we dropped ourselves, I don't find the idea that we almost wiped ourselves out completely before a very strange idea at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

          It's true that a lot gets lost in translation, it always does. However, the fact remains that the Mahabharata tells of warring "gods" who used (at the time) unexplainable weapons of mass destruction.
          YEAH, but the version HERE showed something that would CLEARLY be an atomic explosion! The translation, from what I read, seems to only explain a powerful weapon, and NOT speak of it being atomic. It is VERY different!

          It is like the quatrain scam in 2001! The email made it CLEAR it referred to something like 9/11, right down to the towers and city! The actual quatrain did NOT look that way.

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          • Profile picture of the author bravo75
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            YEAH, but the version HERE showed something that would CLEARLY be an atomic explosion! The translation, from what I read, seems to only explain a powerful weapon, and NOT speak of it being atomic. It is VERY different!

            It is like the quatrain scam in 2001! The email made it CLEAR it referred to something like 9/11, right down to the towers and city! The actual quatrain did NOT look that way.

            Steve
            The morons that came up with 9/11 Nostradamus quatrain were dumb enough to date it several years after Nostras death. It was a complete hoax. It didn't even read like Nostradamus.

            The outtake from the Mahabharata is somewhat misinterpreted but as far as I'm concerned, some kind of weapon was used that was not supposed to be around at that time.

            They had a name for this weapon of mass destruction as well: Brahma Astra or Brahmastra.

            There was another, more powerful weapon called the Brahmashira, which was never used.

            The weapon was also believed to cause devastating environmental damage. The land where the weapon was used became barren and all life in and around that area ceased to exist, as both men and women became infertile.

            Now, this may not be a nuke, but there was obviously some sort of technology in place which shouldn't have been there at the time.

            There is some truth to this, despite the apparent mistranslation. If one believes in ancient sanskrit writings, of course. I for one, do.
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            • Profile picture of the author seasoned
              Originally Posted by bravo75 View Post

              The weapon was also believed to cause devastating environmental damage. The land where the weapon was used became barren and all life in and around that area ceased to exist, as both men and women became infertile.
              THIS was SPECIFICALLY supposed to be the WORST curse, etc... It has been so throughout time in MANY cultures! ALSO, it has been a goal of some weapons, and claims.
              So to attribute such claims to nuclear origins is just silly.

              BTW Environmental disasters, disintegration, quickly with NO warning or slowly with LOTS of pain and maiming have the SAME sort of history.

              So SORRY, it doesn't mean much to me.

              Steve
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    There are a LOT of disinformation sites out there - almost as many as "conspiracy theory" sites. You almost have to get an education in each field just to be able to untwist which is which.

    Bravo - I did a comparative reading on the Enuma Elish and Genesis. Theologians do not dispute that Genesis originates from that text, but has been de-personafied a bit. My uncle was a theology PHD and we discussed it. He was always my bible info go-to guy. Miss him.

    As far as literature as history - there are some things that continue to show up throughout writings of different eras. When an event or such shows up across the spectrum of literature in a specific period, it can be presumed that there is/was at least a basis for in the real world. I don't know an archaeologist that doesn't think that we haven't uncovered all the past civilizations yet - or that we understand all the capabilities and technology used in the past. With the technology they have today to find lost ruins and civilizations, new info is being found so fast it's almost impossible to keep up with it all -- and there is no telling what we're going to finally uncover. It would seem from literature that there were civilizations with advanced technology before, though. It's mentioned across all forms of literature, so there's got to be a source of such widespread depictions. How accurately the source is portrayed isn't known at this time - or at least the info hasn't been released to the public yet, at any rate. I know some explorers, and they testify that there's a LOT of stuff that is just plain under cover.

    Then you get people who go out looking for a specific answer and will bend everything to fit their objective, whether they are pounding round pegs into square holes or what. Look at the flood from the bible - there's not an Archaeologist or a geologist who doesn't think there was a major flood at one time. There isn't one that believes that there will ever be a genuine stitch of any Ark found anywhere -- whether there ever was one or not. The boat would have most likely have been used for fuel in any realistic view of that event, so looking for the remnants is kinda just plain not realistic. Scientists have formed a group to debunk crap like "we think we found the ark". They get sick of disinformation, too. For every bit of info we get now, there's disinfo to counter it.

    I have a very good documentary here on age of some finds. This is a problem that all Archaeologists get ticked off about - if they don't age artifacts to agree with current "authority" representations of history, they are discredited and their work is never published by the status quos. Fitz's team a few years back were actually run off when they started getting strange results from finding in one of the SW states. Run off, not just debunked. Told to get the hell out. Why? That's the best question we can ask.

    This is a great video - both for understanding the science of archaeology and the suppression of information.
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  • Profile picture of the author seasoned
    It is a FACT that there have been cultures that BURIED or built ontop of, or hidden, older cultures! ALSO, it is FACT that there are cultures that are now under the see or covered in ancient disasters! It is ALSO a fact that much has been dismantled! It is ALSO fact that they used to be far smaller.

    Given all of that, you would have to be an IDIOT to believe all has been found. People in the US are STILL finding out things about THEIR past, and the US is a VERY young country!

    HECK, people went to CHINA to dispel some "myths" and were SHOCKED to find such animals DID exist.

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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    Whatever happened could still be natural. This is the "Tunguska event" that occurred as recently as 1908. The "meteorite" was estimated to have a yield of up a 30 megatons.

    Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      Whatever happened could still be natural. This is the "Tunguska event" that occurred as recently as 1908. The "meteorite" was estimated to have a yield of up a 30 megatons.

      Tunguska event - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
      YEAH, and a number of meteors ARE radioactive.

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  • Profile picture of the author Canadian 51
    Come on, people, isn't this supposed to be a marketing forum of rational people? I can't believe nobody questioned the original source that Bravo quoted. If you have even basic understanding of physics, you'll figure out it's impossible to have life-threatening radiation in a place where a Hiroshima-sized bomb exploded 8 to 12 thousand years ago.

    My wife is Japanese, we go to Japan every year and we have been in Hiroshima several times. It has been several decades from the bombing and at this point of time there is no radiation in the city.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by Canadian 51 View Post

      Come on, people, isn't this supposed to be a marketing forum of rational people? I can't believe nobody questioned the original source that Bravo quoted. If you have even basic understanding of physics, you'll figure out it's impossible to have life-threatening radiation in a place where a Hiroshima-sized bomb exploded 8 to 12 thousand years ago.

      My wife is Japanese, we go to Japan every year and we have been in Hiroshima several times. It has been several decades from the bombing and at this point of time there is no radiation in the city.
      What if it was a Urainium 235 weapon? Hmmm? That'd be a little bit different than a neutron bomb or something. You seem to be making an assumption about what the nature of the weapon they were using would have been...........and frankly........we're kinda clueless on that one.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        isn't this supposed to be a marketing forum of rational people
        Yes - but that's upstairs....you're in the basement in the OT. We do things differently - it's sort of happy hour 24/7.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Canadian 51 View Post

      we go to Japan every year and we have been in Hiroshima several times. It has been several decades from the bombing and at this point of time there is no radiation in the city.
      Check the battery on your Geiger counter by touching the battery on your tongue.
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