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10 years ago

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10 years ago

Maybe he gave us wolves. We made dogs all by ourselves.

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HeySal 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Maybe he gave us wolves. We made dogs all by ourselves.

Mix a dog lover with a rockhound - and there's not one tad of difference but the house training.
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  Gods gave us dogs, anagrammatically speaking.
  
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- Floyd Fisher 10 years ago
  
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  Mix a dog lover with a rockhound - and there's not one tad of difference but the house training.
  
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  And which one is house trained?
  
  When you're out in the field, that would be a question that nobody could answer for sure.
  
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Maybe he gave us wolves. We made dogs all by ourselves.

You, sir, are a "nit-picker". :p

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Hmmm, l think that God gave us cats, and dogs later on, since cats were to serious! :rolleyes:

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Hmmm, l think that God gave us cats, and dogs later on, since cats were to serious! :rolleyes:

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Cats aren't too serious.
Cats are psychotic!
They kill for the fun of it and torture their victims
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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Every time I see a picture of a bichon, I want to put on my best Paul Hogan voice, post a pic of an Irish wolfhound or bull mastiff, and say, "That's not a dog. THIS is a dog!"

But then my survival instincts kick in. 'Cause, you know, Dennis would, like, kick my ass.

So I don't.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by lcombs

Works fine on my end.
But, here's the original web page: Bichon Heaven - Home

Bichon, bichon . . . now where have I seen that name before? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Every time I see a picture of a bichon, I want to put on my best Paul Hogan voice, post a pic of an Irish wolfhound or bull mastiff, and say, "That's not a dog. THIS is a dog!"

But then my survival instincts kick in. 'Cause, you know, Dennis would, like, kick my ass.

So I don't.

I'll have you know sir, that our bichon thinks she's a Doberman.

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Dennis,

I'll have you know sir, that our bichon thinks she's a Doberman.

This is way too dangerous turf for me. Besides, if I bite my tongue any harder it will bleed...

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Dennis,This is way too dangerous turf for me. Besides, if I bite my tongue any harder it will bleed...

Paul

That could be dangerous.

If you're biting your tongue when I kick your ass you could chomp that thing clean off.
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HeySal

10 years ago

Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Every time I see a picture of a bichon, I want to put on my best Paul Hogan voice, post a pic of an Irish wolfhound or bull mastiff, and say, "That's not a dog. THIS is a dog!"

But then my survival instincts kick in. 'Cause, you know, Dennis would, like, kick my ass.

So I don't.

LOL - I thought the same thing when I posted about 30 pounds not being a dog, 30 pounds is a rodent.

I'll have you know sir, that our bichon thinks she's a Doberman.

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Dennis,This is way too dangerous turf for me. Besides, if I bite my tongue any harder it will bleed...

Paul

Please.........allow me. Doesn't matter what she thinks - I matters what the Dobbie or Rottie thinks when she runs into them.

This is turning out to be one bitchon thread.

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Please.........allow me. Doesn't matter what she thinks - I matters what the Dobbie or Rottie thinks when she runs into them.

It's kind of funny... if we're out for a walk and come across someone else walking their dog she'll usually be shy. In our yard though, she's chased away much bigger dogs that happened by.
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lcombs

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Every time I see a picture of a bichon, I want to put on my best Paul Hogan voice, post a pic of an Irish wolfhound or bull mastiff, and say, "That's not a dog. THIS is a dog!"

But then my survival instincts kick in. 'Cause, you know, Dennis would, like, kick my ass.

So I don't.

At one time we had 3 Bichons.
Now we only have one. :p

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Maybe he gave us wolves. We made dogs all by ourselves.

Originally Posted by lcombs

You, sir, are a "nit-picker". :p

Not to be a real nitpicker

, but:
God gave us caniformia (walrus, sea lions) which became wolves
that we made into dogs by domesticating the grey wolf...

Caniformia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Dan Riffle

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Maybe he gave us wolves. We made dogs all by ourselves.

Originally Posted by bizgrower

Not to be a real nitpicker

, but:
God gave us caniformia (walrus, sea lions) which became wolves
that we made into dogs by domesticating the grey wolf...

Caniformia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oh, that's gotta hurt. Claude's ego just took a shot straight to the dangly bits.

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Claude Whitacre 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dan Riffle

Oh, that's gotta hurt. Claude's ego just took a shot straight to the dangly bits.

Dan; How do you know my bits dangle? Oh, Never mind, I know how you know.
I found the video cameras.

We have a next door neighbor that has two small dogs. (They look like Dennis's dog)
They run around the neighbor's yard. If the think you are getting too close to the yard, they start barking, and running to the edge of the yard.

I've actually said to the dogs,
"I'm 30 times bigger than you. I have hands. You don't stand a chance."

But really? You have to admire their spunk. And they make me laugh. I love dogs.

I do not believe in the divine. But if I did, dogs would be proof to me. Every dog I ever had was my friend.

I'm still working on making that big black cat behind my store, my friend. It has it's own cat food dish. I feed it every day. I worry, when it's freezing at night.

I'm at about 4 feet now. It walks away if I get within 4 feet. this is the year. That cat will be won over.

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5. You live upside down, what do you know? :p

That made me laugh out loud. No idea why.
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lcombs 10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Yes he did. Um........but your link says "unavailable".

Works fine on my end.
But, here's the original web page: Bichon Heaven - Home
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10 years ago

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10 years ago

When my Husky was young, he backed off from an aggressively barking Chihuahua.
The Chihuahua was on the sidewalk and my dog was in the parking lot.
As my dog got older, he took less crap from other dogs.

One time we backed down two full grown, charging St Bernards.

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Sal,

LOL - I thought the same thing when I posted about 30 pounds not being a dog, 30 pounds is a rodent.

I don't know about that. A full-grown standard dachsund is about that size (the males) and I would not want to tangle with one of those if he were angry. They were bred to go into badger holes and drag out some of the meanest critters around, after all.

That's sort of like people laughing at afghans because of the foofty hair and forgetting they were used (according to some sources) to hunt lions...

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by lcombs

Cats aren't too serious.
Cats are psychotic!
They kill for the fun of it and torture their victims
beforehand.

Well, since this is a dogs thread l can't say to much about dogs endearing traits, apart from saying l would rather have a cat on my lap, than a slobbering, smelly dog!

Especially after having an insane one try and chew my Mothers old fence down, on new years eve! :rolleyes:

Cats rule!!!! :p

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Well, since this is a dogs thread l can't say to much about dogs endearing traits, apart from saying l would rather have a cat on my lap, than a slobbering, smelly dog!

Especially after having an insane one try and chew my Mothers old fence down, on new years eve! :rolleyes:

Cats rule!!!! :p

1. Most dogs do not drool.
2. Cats cover themselves in their own saliva, dogs take a bath without clawing you to pieces.
3. Cats are so filthy they trigger allergies.
4. Dogs are loyal and loving, cats are indifferent and aloof.
5. You live upside down, what do you know? :p

Having said that, we have a cat too.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

1. Most dogs do not drool.
2. Cats cover themselves in their own saliva, dogs take a bath without clawing you to pieces.
3. Cats are so filthy they trigger allergies.
4. Dogs are loyal and loving, cats are indifferent and aloof.
5. You live upside down, what do you know? :p

Having said that, we have a cat too.

1. Most dogs do not drool.

Slobber, perhaps?

2. Cats cover themselves in their own saliva, dogs take a bath without clawing you to pieces.

Gee, you must have clever dogs????

3. Cats are so filthy they trigger allergies.

Well, l have hey fever and rarely sneezed myself silly when one of my cats was near.

4. Dogs are loyal and loving, cats are indifferent and aloof.

Niah!

5. You live upside down, what do you know?

Well, l have lived with both, and will take a cat over a dog anytime! :p

Especially after the dog from hell, new years eve event!

I doubt that a cat will munch its way through an old fence, because it got spooked by fireworks!

Cats still rule!

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

Gee, you must have clever dogs????

She is pretty smart. If we say "It's bath time, go on up" she'll go upstairs and get in the bathtub.

Well, l have hey fever and rarely sneezed myself silly when one of my cats was near.

Hay fever and cat allergies are two different things. I'm allergic to some cats. Ours doesn't bother me, but both my sister's cats do. Most cats do. Sometimes I wonder if ours doesn't bother me because I rescued it from the wild. Poor thing was outside our patio doors looking in and meowing on a cold, rainy October night. She must have known I was a soft touch.

Well, l have lived with both, and will take a cat over a dog anytime! :p

Yeah, to each their own. Cats need love too. It's all good.

...but dogs are better.
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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Sal,I don't know about that. A full-grown standard dachsund is about that size (the males) and I would not want to tangle with one of those if he were angry. They were bred to go into badger holes and drag out some of the meanest critters around, after all.

That's sort of like people laughing at afghans because of the foofty hair and forgetting they were used (according to some sources) to hunt lions...

Paul

Paul - didn't say little dogs aren't kewl. You couldn't find a breed of dog I don't like. I'm just a big dog owner. My dogs usually outweigh me by a pretty bit. Ricky was 70 pounds and he seemed small to me. That's why I say........that under thirty is a rodent and not a dog. I like rodents, too - a lot - it (statement) was a reference to size only it wasn't a slam. Thought the tongue lodged in cheek was obvious.

Dennis - all dogs get real cocky on their own ground.....and it's funny, because other dogs know when they are trespassing and aren't welcome. I rarely see a dog contest another that is just telling it to back off it's territory. It happens but not often. I can just see that little thing going after some giant galloot.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Sal,I don't know about that. A full-grown standard dachsund is about that size (the males) and I would not want to tangle with one of those if he were angry. They were bred to go into badger holes and drag out some of the meanest critters around, after all.

That's sort of like people laughing at afghans because of the foofty hair and forgetting they were used (according to some sources) to hunt lions...

Paul

Our male encountered a rabbit in our back yard one day.
He took about 3 steps toward the rabbit.
The rabbit took about 3 hops and continued munching on the grass.
Our Bichon turned and went back to what he was doing, giving the rabbit no 2nd thought.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by lcombs

Our male encountered a rabbit in our back yard one day.
He took about 3 steps toward the rabbit.
The rabbit took about 3 hops and continued munching on the grass.
Our Bichon turned and went back to what he was doing, giving the rabbit no 2nd thought.

Ours chases the rabbit to the end of her chain. Cool how she knows how to stop just in time before she reaches the end. The rabbit vacates the premises. Helps keep the hostas nice in the summer. The rabbits seem to like some of the varieties.

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10 years ago

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10 years ago

What is up with the way people idolize small, BARKY dogs? I caught the Westminster dog show best of best on TV last night - and they had just the most beautiful dogs of each category - every one was exceptional really - and who wins Best in Show? who always wins? A Pekinese -or Bichon or some glorified rat size dog. A DOGETTE if you will.

The only dog that ever snapped at me is a Pekinese - they have terrible dispositions - All they have going for them is they are all hair - and yeah, they LOOK like a lion.

I really love dogs but the small ones are too BARKY and neurotic - (and the bark is shrill) - There are two toy poodles here that you can't even talk to their owners because their dogs will whine and bark unless THEY are picked up - they are just like babies - Can't be left alone for a minute as they are the center of the universe.

Yes give me a REAL dog like a Shepherd or Hound! Any day!

OK well I guess they do sorta look like a rabbit so that is a plus.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

What is up with the way people idolize small, BARKY dogs? I caught the Westminster dog show best of best on TV last night - and they had just the most beautiful dogs of each category - every one was exceptional really - and who wins Best in Show? who always wins? A Pekinese -or Bichon or some glorified rat size dog. A DOGETTE if you will.

The only dog that ever snapped at me is a Pekinese - they have terrible dispositions - All they have going for them is they are all hair - and yeah, they LOOK like a lion.

I really love dogs but the small ones are too BARKY and neurotic - (and the bark is shrill) - There are two toy poodles here that you can't even talk to their owners because their dogs will whine and bark unless THEY are picked up - they are just like babies - Can't be left alone for a minute as they are the center of the universe.

Yes give me a REAL dog like a Shepherd or Hound! Any day!

OK well I guess they do sorta look like a rabbit so that is a plus.

You sound like my brother.
But, then, he only has a dog for bird hunting.
If it doesn't measure up, he gets rid of it and gets another.

Our Bichons barked very little.
The one we have now almost never barks.
And, I've never met a Bichon that had a bad disposition.
In fact, quite the contrary.
Every Bichon I've had was almost too friendly.
They though everyone they met, as well as other animals,
was their new best friend.

And now, something on the lighter side :p

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10 years ago

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Now, that was cute! Thank you.

See Riffle? That's how people act when they have a Soul.

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She is pretty smart. If we say "It's bath time, go on up" she'll go upstairs and get in the bathtub.

Big deal. Your dog isn't that smart. My wife says "It's bath time, go on up" and I even turn on the water for myself. Sure, she has to bathe me, and tell me a story. But I'm not all that impressed with your dog.

Can your dog dress itself? I can...well mostly. The zippers are confusing.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Big deal. Your dog isn't that smart. My wife says "It's bath time, go on up" and I even turn on the water for myself. Sure, she has to bathe me, and tell me a story. But I'm not all that impressed with your dog.

Can your dog dress itself? I can...well mostly. The zippers are confusing.

Perhaps you're right, but in defense of my dog, it only took her 7 years to learn what you're still working on after 59 years. :p

By the way, I can help you with your zipper problem. Here are the step-by-step instructions:

1. Go find your wife.
2. Ask her to zip your zipper.
3. Thank her.

As easy as 1, 2, 3 old chum!

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

What is up with the way people idolize small, BARKY dogs?

Whether a dog is "barky" or not often depends on how they are trained. Ours will bark when someone is outside. I like that, it alerts us to their presence. If we say "that's enough" she stops barking.

I've had big dogs, medium dogs, and little dogs. The dog size, breed, whatever, is a matter of personal preference. They're all good.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

Whether a dog is "barky" or not often depends on how they are trained. Ours will bark when someone is outside. I like that, it alerts us to their presence. If we say "that's enough" she stops barking.

I've had big dogs, medium dogs, and little dogs. The dog size, breed, whatever, is a matter of personal preference. They're all good.

Dogs are bred to achieve a particular characterisitic.
But, in the end, their behavior is mostly determined by the trainer/owner.

I remember when German Shepherds were deemed as bad dogs because they would turn on their owner.
After that passed, it was Dobermans.
Now it's Pit Bulls.

"They're all good".

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10 years ago

Pound per pound small dogs are more naturally vicious than big ones - that's innate trait, not trained. I've known people who were severely injured when a little one got ahold of them by the achilles tendon. Now think what a wild pack of them could do if they dropped someone/something like that. They aren't to be taken lightly.

Unfortunately - a lot of owners of small dogs don't train them as well as big dog owners because of their small size. They seem to think they can just grab the dog and pick it up if need be. This is wrong. ANY dog should be trained. It's a disservice to a dog not to train it - that's how they learn fast to understand you and the comprehension of what the owner and dog are saying to each other is what makes dogs so special. If all someone wants is fur to cuddle with or pet, a cat will do the trick.

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Pound per pound small dogs are more naturally vicious than big ones - that's innate trait, not trained. I've known people who were severely injured when a little one got ahold of them by the achilles tendon. Now think what a wild pack of them could do if they dropped someone/something like that. They aren't to be taken lightly.

Unfortunately - a lot of owners of small dogs don't train them as well as big dog owners because of their small size. They seem to think they can just grab the dog and pick it up if need be. This is wrong. ANY dog should be trained. It's a disservice to a dog not to train it - that's how they learn fast to understand you and the comprehension of what the owner and dog are saying to each other is what makes dogs so special. If all someone wants is fur to cuddle with or pet, a cat will do the trick.

Yes, smaller breeds tend to be more high strung.
Mostly it's the "toy" breeds.
Toy Poodles, Yorkies, Pekinese, etc.
A lot of it can be blamed on in-breeding.
When I was breeding Bichons I knew, and followed, the
guide lines for proper breeding.
I can't remember the specific generation lines,
but incest is illegal for AKC Certification.

You can't breed siblings, or parent and pup.
I believe there has to be at least 2 generations
between Sire and Dam.

But, generally, a gross lack of training is the main cause of bad behavior.
What most people don't understand is, Not training is training bad behavior.

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10 years ago

The thing is about the little barky dogs is that they bark when the owners are not there. So they have no idea - (in some cases). On the other hand I can't imagine anyone would train their dog to be so needy and neurotic like the two poodles I mentioned. I guess it is more a lack of training - I just really see those two as demanding - but maybe their 'parents' like having this kind of relationship/control.

I guess I am just touchy because I have just finally got rid of somebody that left their two tiny terriers on their balcony/or having access to the balcony - and they barked all day long at every bird that flew by and just feeling miserable type of barking (10 months). Sorry but they made me feel miserable too...

I have never known a Bichon or heard anything bad - they are cute I must admit. They look like little lambs.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Dan; How do you know my bits dangle? Oh, Never mind, I know how you know.
I found the video cameras.

We have a next door neighbor that has two small dogs. (They look like Dennis's dog)
They run around the neighbor's yard. If the think you are getting too close to the yard, they start barking, and running to the edge of the yard.

I've actually said to the dogs,
"I'm 30 times bigger than you. I have hands. You don't stand a chance."

But really? You have to admire their spunk. And they make me laugh. I love dogs.

I do not believe in the divine. But if I did, dogs would be proof to me. Every dog I ever had was my friend.

I'm still working on making that big black cat behind my store, my friend. It has it's own cat food dish. I feed it every day. I worry, when it's freezing at night.

I'm at about 4 feet now. It walks away if I get within 4 feet. this is the year. That cat will be won over.

That made me laugh out loud. No idea why.

No, all Aussies know, that Australia is the right way up, and America is upside down!

We just keep it to ourselves!

Not sure about the Irish, thought? :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by lcombs

Dogs are bred to achieve a particular characterisitic.
But, in the end, their behavior is mostly determined by the trainer/owner.

I remember when German Shepherds were deemed as bad dogs because they would turn on their owner.
After that passed, it was Dobermans.
Now it's Pit Bulls.

"They're all good".

Yes, but Pit Bulls, crosses, do go nutso, around fireworks, and start biting into fences?

Not sure that other breeds, would start destroying fencing, if they got spooked!

I think that only reason small dogs go nuts, is because they know you could just step on one to put it out of its misery.

Blah, blah, blah, cats still rule, blah, blah, blah!

Shane

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Floyd Fisher

10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

No, all Aussies know, that Australia is the right way up, and America is upside down!

We just keep it to ourselves!

Not sure about the Irish, thought? :rolleyes:

Yes, but Pit Bulls, crosses, do go nutso, around fireworks, and start biting into fences?

Not sure that other breeds, would start destroying fencing, if they got spooked!

I think that only reason small dogs go nuts, is because they know you could just step on one to put it out of its misery.

Blah, blah, blah, cats still rule, blah, blah, blah!

Shane

Obviously you have never heard of a Labrador Retriever or a St Bernard, have you?

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HeySal

10 years ago

Originally Posted by tagiscom

No, all Aussies know, that Australia is the right way up, and America is upside down!

We just keep it to ourselves!

Not sure about the Irish, thought? :rolleyes:

Yes, but Pit Bulls, crosses, do go nutso, around fireworks, and start biting into fences?

Not sure that other breeds, would start destroying fencing, if they got spooked!

I think that only reason small dogs go nuts, is because they know you could just step on one to put it out of its misery.

Blah, blah, blah, cats still rule, blah, blah, blah!

Shane

Fireworks can be very painful to a dog's ears. Rotties can go through about anything they damned well want to go through (one reason excellent training is required). I've seen Rotties eat through solid wood doors when they wanted out bad enough. That's why you have to start training them so small - you get a dog with that kind of power, you don't want to let him get too big to exert any force you need to to get them trained. I had to take the feet out from under Munch and sit on him for a month to get him to lay down on command. He finally figured I'd make a big enough deal out of it that he might as well cooperate - and I'm sure that's the way he took it. I could see the "Mom, you're such a pain in the *ss" look on his face when I'd tell him to lay down.

As far as chewing through a metal fence? Most dogs will dig under it. A rottie or mastiff will usually just knock down the poles and walk over it.

I'll never forget one fence I struggled to get under - barbed wire. I kept telling Munch to "go under" and he just sat and looked at me with his head cocked. Finally I got under, was dirty and had got barbs in my coat here and there so had snags. I pulled the wire up for him and he just got up, walked about 100 feet down the fence and there turned out to be an opening I hadn't seen. He just walked around it. Looked at me like I was stupid a few times as we began walking again. It's embarrassing when you do something that your dog knows is idiotic before you do.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Patrician

kind of relationship/control.

I guess I am just touchy because I have just finally got rid of somebody that left their two tiny terriers on their balcony/or having access to the balcony - and they barked all day long at every bird that flew by and just feeling miserable type of barking (10 months). Sorry but they made me feel miserable too...

Yeah, different situation entirely. That would drive me nuts too.

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...I pulled the wire up for him and he just got up, walked about 100 feet down the fence and there turned out to be an opening I hadn't seen. He just walked around it. Looked at me like I was stupid a few times as we began walking again. It's embarrassing when you do something that your dog knows is idiotic before you do.

*snicker snicker*

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by HeySal

Fireworks can be very painful to a dog's ears. Rotties can go through about anything they damned well want to go through (one reason excellent training is required). I've seen Rotties eat through solid wood doors when they wanted out bad enough. That's why you have to start training them so small - you get a dog with that kind of power, you don't want to let him get too big to exert any force you need to to get them trained. I had to take the feet out from under Munch and sit on him for a month to get him to lay down on command. He finally figured I'd make a big enough deal out of it that he might as well cooperate - and I'm sure that's the way he took it. I could see the "Mom, you're such a pain in the *ss" look on his face when I'd tell him to lay down.

As far as chewing through a metal fence? Most dogs will dig under it. A rottie or mastiff will usually just knock down the poles and walk over it.

Yep, that is what l have heard, but the fireworks, (illegal ones) had finished, but the dog was hell bent on getting back into my Mothers yard again.

He wasn't aggressive in a chew my arm off kind of way, but because of the noises and his owners were out, (of course) l suppose he wanted attention?

First time he got in, l thought it might be a oversized possum, (l have occasionally seen these cute, but pesky things here and there) but quickly realized it was a short, pudgy dog, (that was built like a tank) but friendly.

Then l pushed him back into his yard, and repaired the fence.

Then he munched away got back in, l put him back in and barraked the hole while my Mother called the police.

Not a fun way to spend new years eve, mossies and insane muts!

The police showed, up, saw the munching in action, and all they could do was to tie him up in his yard, which they did.

Of course when l went inside and tried to get over this, he chewed through the rope, and got back in.

Then l put him into the garage with trallice wood to block the gate.

He of course destroyed part of that and slid through the gate entrance.

At this point which was about 2am l thought f**** it, and we had to just let him run around in my Mothers yard, which he did, thankfully without destroying any plants, and when his owners showed up, he smashed his way through the fence again!

The neighbors said that they had trained him, but obviously not enough. And said that this was the first time this had happened.

New years in Australia, Victoria was hot, and considering they, (neighbours) cleaned up their back yard, once a year, didn't help to keep him cool.

My Mother is a bit of a garden nut, so her yard is a lot cooler than our neighbors, which until recently had one to two meter tall grass.

As you have said before, they go through everything, but he didn't try to destroy my Mothers back aluminum screen door, so l suppose even these small tanks have limits?

My Mother will get a new fence eventually, but in the meantime her neighbors have set off some more overhead fireworks to sensitive him, not to go for the fence, as well as his friends terror, (that is calmer) stay with him for a while.

I reinforced the fence as much as possible, and no further issues have arisen.

Although l was there today and heard him whimpering on the other side of the fence, when his owners were out, so.... :rolleyes:

hmmm, cool for cats!

Shane

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Floyd Fisher

10 years ago

Ah, Bichon Frise....the k-9 q-tip.

Otherwise knows as K-9 alarm systems. :p

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10 years ago

I hate fireworks for dogs' sake.

I had a "thunder dog" - a dog that would panic if alone during
a thunder storm, or if fireworks went off. She was a white
shepherd(15% or so are prone to be thunder dogs)/husky/possibly
wolf mix. Remarkably beautiful dog.

After I first adopted her, I did not know she was a thunder dog,
but while I was at work we had the usual Colorado summer
afternoon thunderstorm and she went through my second
floor window. (Fortunately her only injury was a surface
scratch on a leg.) After that she was with me everywhere.

Some "thunder dogs" can find safe places. She could not.
The only way she could handle a storm was to be on a
human's lap and shivering. Drugs for thunder
dogs were just coming into use - I did not try them.

Her fear of storms was very much built in. Her fear of
fireworks could have also been built in, and/or from
bad experiences (she was about five when I adopted her).

One time, with clear blue skies, she got nervous like she
would before a storm. The only thing I could tie it into
were tornados that touched down about 80 miles
South of where we were.

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A friend of mine had a pit bull and a Doberman. Her
husband used to take them hunting with him. One
day, some kids threw fireworks at the dogs while
they were in her backyard. After that, both dogs
had a fear of fireworks and guns and could no
longer go hunting.

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It think that with all dogs it is a mix of nature and
nurture and training. And, the smart human companions
need to realize that they are just dogs. And pick according
to their lifestyles and if other pets and kids are around...

I personally will not get a Pit Bull or a Chow. I've seen
too many Pits that are simply dog aggressive by nature
and I don't want to be wary all the time.

One Pit in particular was sweet as could be with humans,
but came to work with the owner because he could not
leave him alone at home with their other dogs
(they tried pro training etc.).

Chows are not ranked high on the doggy list of intelligence
and tend to be biters. Again, something I don't want to
have to be constantly on guard about.

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While cats rule, I'd rather rule my pet. lol
(Actually love cats. Can't stand the litter box though.)

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10 years ago

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For future reference, (since I've seen you post a Facebook link previous to this one that also did not work for the general public), it's possible that your non Facebook friends (us) can not see those links due to your current privacy settings. Facebook will just say that the content is unavailable etc.

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10 years ago

It's all about early training.
Our pups were well on their way to being fully house broken
when they left with their new owners.

Begin training ASAP. Usually around 10 - 12 weeks.
There are 3 "Ps" for dog training; Patience, Persistence, and Praise.

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10 years ago

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Patrician

10 years ago

This is one of the cutest 'smart' dogs i have seen.

... speaking of training! or lack thereof.

I know all U dog lovers have all seen it - but it's good enough for reruns.

It actually makes me LAUGH OUT LOUD.

Denver Official Guilty Dog Video...

Oh Wow - Check this out!

Denver the Guilty Dog - Memed - YouTube

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10 years ago

Ya wanna see some dogs that I would just be thrilled to own? I like big dogs. But Wow - Check these "little" guys out:

These 15 Insanely Enormous Dogs Remind Us That Beauty Can Come With Lots Of Slobber

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

I'd never heard of a leonberger before. Great coloring, but I wouldn't want to deal with all the drool those big guys produce.

Great looking horses though . . . I mean dogs.

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bizgrower

10 years ago

My best high school friend's uncle had an Irish Wolfhound.

Drool towels everywhere in their house.

Poor dog also had a long thin tail that was always taped
to prevent cuts and chapping because he wacked it against
everything - inadvertantly because of his size.

They had to be careful with their home décor.

Dan

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HeySal

10 years ago

I've had 3 dogs that were well over 100 pounds - one almost 200. Loved them to death. As far as drool - Rotties aren't all that bad. A little drool wouldn't stop me from owning a guy like almost any of those, though.

I hadn't heard of a Leonberger before either - really like them though. I wouldn't own a Dane - not because I don't like them, but they die real young and are prone to coronary failure. Their called heartbreak dogs because of it. I love the Bernese, too - but they can be pretty damned aggressive. Very. I'd still love to have one.

Anyway - those dogs are the type that steal my heart. There's not one - not one - that I don't like, though. I'm thinking while I'm living where I can't have the dog I want (too big for the rules), I might just foster a dog or two until they can get good homes. I miss having a furball, but when I move I'll want the one that is right for me, so foster mom might just be my calling for a little while.

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10 years ago

With big dogs, one thing I became aware of is that as when we get old,
it might not be such a good idea to have a big dog. And, because of
how long dogs can live - plan ahead.

I used to walk my dog around a lake and would often see this 75 year old
man who had large boned German Shepherds all his life. He actually had rotator
cuff surgery because of the pulling. Also, when I met him, the dog he had was
dog aggressive and he could barely control him. Fortunately, this dog was older too.

I like the Leonberger and I hope Claude does not think it's a Riffleburger.

The Irish Wolfhounds -and a lot of large dogs - only live about 8 years. (As one of
my vets pointed out to me, that's why the 'dog years' thing is a myth.)

Big dogs also have that stomach twisting potential, which can lead to a very
painful death. My last vet would often do the surgery to prevent the
twisting.

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First time my 75 lbs. Husky saw an English Mastiff, he literally froze
in his tracks as he tried to figure out what it was. This 18 month old puppy
was already at 210 lbs.

Dan

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