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I had a surreal experience in my late teens that occasionally reappears in my dreams. When I was crossing a rural field, I was shot and a bullet was lodged in my neck. Whoever shot me was out of site.

When I got back to the place I was staying, and told the folks that I was shot and a bullet was lodged in my neck, they laughed it off and wouldn't take me seriously. That mark on my neck was just a scratch, they said. I even started to wonder if it really happened. It was a remote location, so it wasn't like I could just drop into a nearby clinic.

I did all of the usual stuff that had to be done. Chopped firewood and whatnot. But that wound in my neck remained. One afternoon, as I was by a river, I looked at my reflection in the water and could make out the mark on my neck. I gave it a good squeeze with two fingers. It kind of hurt but not terribly, so I persisted, and a 22 bullet popped out like a pimple. Feeling almost more relieved that I could be vindicated than for removing a bullet from my neck, I took it back to my temporary abode where I was being put up and showed them the bullet. They still thought I was just making it up and said it was just a bullet used to shoot a wild hare and to please stop telling tall tales.
  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    Great anecdote. Sorry to hear of the cynicism from the folks you were staying with. Who the heck would lie about being shot?

    Reminds me of this story I read awhile back: Man Reports Being Shot Twice In Great Smoky Mountains National Park | National Parks Traveler
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    What's fun and surreal is dreaming, knowing you're dreaming and controlling the dream.

    I've done it at least 5 times and it was a lot of fun.

    I wish I could do it all the time while sleeping and dreaming.
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    • Profile picture of the author peterj
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      What's fun and surreal is dreaming, knowing you're dreaming and controlling the dream.

      I've done it at least 5 times and it was a lot of fun.

      I wish I could do it all the time while sleeping and dreaming.
      I seem to remember in the dim and distant past reading that they had developed or were developing a machine to help facilitate dream awareness.

      From what I recall, you put a band around your head, wrist or maybe both.

      This was attached to the contraption (possible the light socket) which would detect when you started dreaming and would then administer mild electric current through the bands in order to raise your awareness just enough to recognise you were dreaming but not so much to wake you up completely.

      No idea if it came to pass or what it might be called tho'.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I've done dream groups where we have a blind target that we try to hit. We had some incredible hits......and also some incredible dreams that didn't associate to the targets at all. The point was to get us to remember our dreams. Then you can learn to control dreams. I've had some absolutely bizzare dreams. Love to watch them.
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    • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've done dream groups where we have a blind target that we try to hit. We had some incredible hits......and also some incredible dreams that didn't associate to the targets at all. The point was to get us to remember our dreams. Then you can learn to control dreams. I've had some absolutely bizzare dreams. Love to watch them.
      Oh Yeah!

      The dream group was an awesome experience! It was like living another life all night long.

      And the things we accomplished together dream wise as a group...totally incredible! It is amazing how we can direct our dreams and connect through them.

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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator View Post

      What's fun and surreal is dreaming, knowing you're dreaming and controlling the dream.

      I've done it at least 5 times and it was a lot of fun.

      I wish I could do it all the time while sleeping and dreaming.
      Yeah, did it a few times as well, but l have gotten a bit lazy recently with IM work, etc.

      OBE's are pretty cool as well, l was with a group that tried to initiate one, but easier said than done. Although l have experienced it in a limited way a few times.


      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've done dream groups where we have a blind target that we try to hit. We had some incredible hits......and also some incredible dreams that didn't associate to the targets at all. The point was to get us to remember our dreams. Then you can learn to control dreams. I've had some absolutely bizzare dreams. Love to watch them.

      Appreciate your courage, Sal in posting this, l suspect that the hard nose skeptics are itching to post?


      It is easy to say, that you imagined some things, but as always first hand experience, and common sense goes a long way in proving that the universe is a mystery!


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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by tagiscom View Post

        Yeah, did it a few times as well, but l have gotten a bit lazy recently with IM work, etc.

        OBE's are pretty cool as well, l was with a group that tried to initiate one, but easier said than done. Although l have experienced it in a limited way a few times.





        Appreciate your courage, Sal in posting this, l suspect that the hard nose skeptics are itching to post?


        It is easy to say, that you imagined some things, but as always first hand experience, and common sense goes a long way in proving that the universe is a mystery!


        Shane
        Courage? Uh........I don't get it. I don't give a hoot about "skeptics". They are more often in denial than skeptical.

        The group was set up so that there wouldn't be cheating. The dream reports from everyone were posted before the target was posted. We mostly all helped look for similarities.....and many were found that were mentioned but not taken any too seriously. Two people dreaming about being in a city or the country wasn't really felt to qualify as a "hit" because there was nothing unusual about being there. There had to be something more. Like I said, we were mostly trying to get our dream recall built up, and put our dreams in perspective with our lives. If someone wants to get all bent out at us for that, well, that's their problem.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      I've done dream groups where we have a blind target that we try to hit. We had some incredible hits......and also some incredible dreams that didn't associate to the targets at all. The point was to get us to remember our dreams. Then you can learn to control dreams. I've had some absolutely bizzare dreams. Love to watch them.
      I haven't done the group dream thing.
      But, I tried a technique for remembering dreams in order to control them.
      Turned out to be life-changing experience.
      Never got to the point where I could control my dreams.
      I got to the point where I was finding it difficult to distinguish between dream memories from life memories.
      I'm positive it is the cause of my mental problems today.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by lcombs View Post

        I haven't done the group dream thing.
        But, I tried a technique for remembering dreams in order to control them.
        Turned out to be life-changing experience.
        Never got to the point where I could control my dreams.
        I got to the point where I was finding it difficult to distinguish between dream memories from life memories.
        I'm positive it is the cause of my mental problems today.

        Not. Remembering dreams is a normal mental function. If you had problems, the problem existed before. You just noticed it when trying to overtly remember. You might have other memories that are actually "dream" memories and you just never realized it.
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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    Is this a dream or actual retelling? Too many beers!
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

    I had a surreal experience in my late teens that occasionally reappears in my dreams. When I was crossing a rural field, I was shot and a bullet was lodged in my neck. Whoever shot me was out of site.

    When I got back to the place I was staying, and told the folks that I was shot and a bullet was lodged in my neck, they laughed it off and wouldn't take me seriously. That mark on my neck was just a scratch, they said. I even started to wonder if it really happened. It was a remote location, so it wasn't like I could just drop into a nearby clinic.

    I did all of the usual stuff that had to be done. Chopped firewood and whatnot. But that wound in my neck remained. One afternoon, as I was by a river, I looked at my reflection in the water and could make out the mark on my neck. I gave it a good squeeze with two fingers. It kind of hurt but not terribly, so I persisted, and a 22 bullet popped out like a pimple. Feeling almost more relieved that I could be vindicated than for removing a bullet from my neck, I took it back to my temporary abode where I was being put up and showed them the bullet. They still thought I was just making it up and said it was just a bullet used to shoot a wild hare and to please stop telling tall tales.
    Oh jeez - I read that wrong. That REALLY happened, and you just dream about it sometimes? Yeah, that's very strange. I don't even know what to think about the reactions you got. Getting some buckshot doesn't surprise me, though.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Courage? Uh........I don't get it. I don't give a hoot about "skeptics". They are more often in denial than skeptical.

      The group was set up so that there wouldn't be cheating. The dream reports from everyone were posted before the target was posted. We mostly all helped look for similarities.....and many were found that were mentioned but not taken any too seriously. Two people dreaming about being in a city or the country wasn't really felt to qualify as a "hit" because there was nothing unusual about being there. There had to be something more. Like I said, we were mostly trying to get our dream recall built up, and put our dreams in perspective with our lives. If someone wants to get all bent out at us for that, well, that's their problem.
      Ok! :rolleyes:

      I agree that if we see a pink elephant, and a skeptic sees a pink elephant, the skeptic will dismiss is as anything but a pink elephant!

      Because the pink elephant is either too scary or tramples all over their long held beliefs!

      If someone like me that is into this sort of thing, and has experienced things, that would make any skeptic do a runner, or ring Belvua, is a little scared at times, it must be at heart attack levels for someone who pins his self worth on it!


      I have to admit l waited til the dogs were out before l posted the Remote Viewing one, as l didn't want the inevitable Spandanko's turning a fascinating subject into a mud slinging fest!


      Fair enough if you can take it on the chin, but thankfully so far, this has been a positive thread! :rolleyes:


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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan 2.0
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    I'm not sure if it counts as "surreal" however I had a religious/spiritual experience when I was 18.

    Basically, I was having a bad night dealing with my problems (social anxiety, depression, etc.) and after doing some crying I saw a "religious" image above my head when I was laying on my bed.

    It looked like Mary. And it brought me great peace as I slowly drifted off to sleep.

    The next day I was a changed person. When I arrived at work everyone was pleasantly surprised to see me happy and smiling instead of being anxious and miserable all the time.

    Just something I happened to remember.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by Jonathan 2.0 View Post

      I'm not sure if it counts as "surreal" however I had a religious/spiritual experience when I was 18.

      Basically, I was having a bad night dealing with my problems (social anxiety, depression, etc.) and after doing some crying I saw a "religious" image above my head when I was laying on my bed.

      It looked like Mary. And it brought me great peace as I slowly drifted off to sleep.

      The next day I was a changed person. When I arrived at work everyone was pleasantly surprised to see me happy and smiling instead of being anxious and miserable all the time.

      Just something I happened to remember.
      : )
      Yes, l went through a similar experience, but after tearing my hair out for a good hour or two, when l should have gone to sleep, my mind cleared, and a voice said, "don't"!


      Obviously one of my guides, telling me to chill out, or things will get better.

      As for the religious images, l have lost count as to how many times l have seen stuff like that, but 99% or the time it was at a new age group setting!


      Shane



      Note to mods, that is as far as l will dip my tie into Religious stuff, well odd's on! :rolleyes:
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    Learning that open flesh wounds do not necessarily cause pain in the short term.
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    • Profile picture of the author HeySal
      Originally Posted by socialentry View Post

      Learning that open flesh wounds do not necessarily cause pain in the short term.
      Oh wince, lol. Don't even know if I want to ask about that one.

      Originally Posted by peterj View Post

      I seem to remember in the dim and distant past reading that they had developed or were developing a machine to help facilitate dream awareness.

      From what I recall, you put a band around your head, wrist or maybe both.

      This was attached to the contraption (possible the light socket) which would detect when you started dreaming and would then administer mild electric current through the bands in order to raise your awareness just enough to recognise you were dreaming but not so much to wake you up completely.

      No idea if it came to pass or what it might be called tho'.
      They have (had?) those at sleep labs. Not sure if they worked or if they still use them. To me they seem like the same order of thing that as a biofeedback machine - making you aware of your own brain/being.

      Jonathan, Shane - there are so many people who have had such experiences that I would say that skeptics are just closed minded people. What I do not see these experiences as being is "religious", since I know several athiests who have had these experiences, too, but attribute them differently than "religious".
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Wanted to say this in a separate post. The night before last, I was really spooked. I am never spooked just because it's dark. Last night I had a dream that actually was so bad it woke me up. Someone was trying to kill me, and I hacked him to pieces. It really disturbed me for some reason. Dreams don't usually bother me enough to wake me up - even bad ones. I just watch them play out like a movie. This one got me. Whatever the problem was that I felt I was being watched or jeopardized, I seem to have solved the problem, LOL. Holy cow.
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    • Profile picture of the author tagiscom
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Jonathan, Shane - there are so many people who have had such experiences that I would say that skeptics are just closed minded people. What I do not see these experiences as being is "religious", since I know several athiests who have had these experiences, too, but attribute them differently than "religious".
      Skeptics, eh, it might explain why some on the WF are going a but nuts at the moment! :rolleyes:

      This thread is touching a nerve!


      True, new age groups are generally not deeply religious. If they were, l would leave.

      More into the visual or experience side of it, than anything else. I won't go into what l have seen, because the skeptics will have a field day, or the mods, will get trigger happy, but l will just say l am always blown away!


      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Wanted to say this in a separate post. The night before last, I was really spooked. I am never spooked just because it's dark. Last night I had a dream that actually was so bad it woke me up. Someone was trying to kill me, and I hacked him to pieces. It really disturbed me for some reason. Dreams don't usually bother me enough to wake me up - even bad ones. I just watch them play out like a movie. This one got me. Whatever the problem was that I felt I was being watched or jeopardized, I seem to have solved the problem, LOL. Holy cow.
      Yep, get into alien new age stuff, and the imagery tends to get very scary, skulls, etc.

      But it is only the controlling a**** with their fear based BS, that creates those images not the actual event.

      I would take this as a dream more than a premonition!


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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    No - it wasn't a premonition. Premonitions have a very distinct feel and you remember more of them than I remember this one. Dream characters are are parts of the self. I seem to have been having a conflict about something in my mind that manifested first in the feeling of danger while awake, then as danger in my dream. I put a freaking stop to it royally.

    It's not all that "mystical" an experience - just odd that this time it woke me up. I've killed people in my dreams before and never did it shake me up to the point of messing up a good night's sleep.

    The senoi people are an extremely dream conscious people. They recite their dreams to each other at the beginning of each day and talk about them. Children are encouraged to not run from danger but to confront it. That's the way I dream. If I and other dream character do run from danger - it is a temporary stall until we (or I) figure out how to confront it. Only once has it really taken lucid dreaming to get a recurrent problem to stop surfacing in my sleep.
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