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Nephew of a Knights Templar cartel leader arrested on suspicion of kidnapping children and selling their organs.
  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    Truly awful! When I read new pieces like this one I despair for the state of the world. I would thank you for sharing the article Thunderbird but it has made me physically ill.
    A truly evil situation!
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by David Braybrooke View Post

      Truly awful! When I read new pieces like this one I despair for the state of the world. I would thank you for sharing the article Thunderbird but it has made me physically ill.
      A truly evil situation!
      This would have had to involve the participation of advanced medical professionals.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yeah it would. I'm thinking this would be real easy to trace. Seems like the Knights Templar are not what they were originally.

    It just astounds me the things people will do for money.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Yeah it would. I'm thinking this would be real easy to trace. Seems like the Knights Templar are not what they were originally.

      It just astounds me the things people will do for money.
      The knights templar is supposed to be a catholic offshoot of the freemasons. It started in the early 1700s!

      Los Caballeros Templarios

      A more appropriate translation should have been like "templar horse riders". cav or cab basically relates to HORSES! In spanish, caballo means HORSE! Cowboy is vaquero which I guess is more descriptive of the implied job, in either case. But knights don't necessarily ride horses, and most horse riders are NOT knights!

      ANOTHER thing, most freemason knights templars AREN'T mexican, and probably most of the cartel ARE.

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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        The knights templar is supposed to be a catholic offshoot of the freemasons. It started in the early 1700s!

        Los Caballeros Templarios

        A more appropriate translation should have been like "templar horse riders". cav or cab basically relates to HORSES! In spanish, caballo means HORSE! Cowboy is vaquero which I guess is more descriptive of the implied job, in either case. But knights don't necessarily ride horses, and most horse riders are NOT knights!

        ANOTHER thing, most freemason knights templars AREN'T mexican, and probably most of the cartel ARE.

        Steve
        Actually Steve, according to this the Knights Templar were endorsed by the Catholic Church in 1129 - Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        Indeed Covent of Christ Castle was built in 1160 for the Knights Templar.

        I think you'll find the Freemasons came about around 1700 as an off shoot of the Knights Templar.

        Either way though, the original Knights Templar has nothing to with any Mexican drug cartels other than by name, as far as I'm aware.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          Actually Steve, according to this the Knights Templar were endorsed by the Catholic Church in 1129 - Knights Templar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

          Indeed Covent of Christ Castle was built in 1160 for the Knights Templar.

          I think you'll find the Freemasons came about around 1700 as an off shoot of the Knights Templar.

          Either way though, the original Knights Templar has nothing to with any Mexican drug cartels other than by name, as far as I'm aware.
          I was trying to b kind. YEAH, the ORIGINAL one was in the 12th century, and I think disbanded in the 14th. The CURRENT one in the 18th and still around. I don't know if the KT inspired the freemasons, though I doubt it.

          But yeah, we agree.

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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

            I don't know if the KT inspired the freemasons, though I doubt it.
            I don't know about inspired and this is all I've read but if it's true, there certainly seems to have been some influence or at least some historical linkage.

            Your guess is as good as mine Steve, these things are shrouded in mystery.

            Since at least the 18th century Freemasonry has incorporated Templar symbols and rituals in a number of Masonic bodies,most notably, the "Order of the Temple" the final order joined in "The United Religious, Military and Masonic Orders of the Temple and of St John of Jerusalem, Palestine, Rhodes and Malta" commonly known as the Knights Templar. One theory of the origins of Freemasonry claims direct descent from the historical Knights Templar through its final fourteenth-century members who took refuge in Scotland whose King, Robert the Bruce was excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church at the time, or in Portugal where the order changed its name to Knights of Christ, other members having joined Knights of St. John. There have even been claims that some of the Templars who made it to Scotland contributed to the Scots' victory at Bannockburn. This theory is usually deprecated on grounds of lack of evidence, by both Masonic authorities and historians.
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  • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
    I'm not surprised there is/was an organized ring doing this.

    After all, this is planet Earth 2014 AD.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

      This would have had to involve the participation of advanced medical professionals.
      Good point but then again, when those Mexicans threaten to skin your wife and do the same to your kids, I can kind of understand where they get advanced medical professionals from. You either do what this mob say or you all die slowly.

      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Yeah it would. I'm thinking this would be real easy to trace. Seems like the Knights Templar are not what they were originally.
      Hi Sal, this is a Mexican drug cartel, nothing to do with the original Knights Templar of old. I'm hoping you knew that :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Yeah guys - I realize who the real Knights Templar were. I was just making a comment about the name the cartel chose to go by.
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    • Profile picture of the author seasoned
      They did NOT call themselves the knights templar though. They are Los caballeros templarios. It is just that the accepted translation of that, which I think is pretty stupid, is "The knights templar". Oh well, it is like translating Tauben from german.

      This is ESPECIALLY bad because MOST of the spanish speaking public that identifies with a religion is probably Catholic, and either of the knights templar are catholic. What they did is anticatholic in many ways. So it is like spitting in the eyes of their compatriots.

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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by seasoned View Post

        They did NOT call themselves the knights templar though. They are Los caballeros templarios. It is just that the accepted translation of that, which I think is pretty stupid, is "The knights templar". Oh well, it is like translating Tauben from german.

        This is ESPECIALLY bad because MOST of the spanish speaking public that identifies with a religion is probably Catholic, and either of the knights templar are catholic. What they did is anticatholic in many ways. So it is like spitting in the eyes of their compatriots.

        Steve
        Yes, it is. However - why would one expect a group that would kidnap kids and sell their organs to really give a rat who they spit on? I think calling what they are doing anti-catholic is such an understatement of the atrocity that it's almost funny. It's not even what most would consider a HUMAN act.
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        • Profile picture of the author seasoned
          Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

          Yes, it is. However - why would one expect a group that would kidnap kids and sell their organs to really give a rat who they spit on? I think calling what they are doing anti-catholic is such an understatement of the atrocity that it's almost funny. It's not even what most would consider a HUMAN act.
          You're RIGHT, they ARE VERMIN! I said anticatholic because, though true, it ALSO ties them in a close way to neighbors, etc... Humanity these days... Well, obviously a lot of people don't care.

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