Would you want your kid to finish college or start as an entrepreneur?

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With a passel of kids myself, what do you think is the best after-highschool path?

College or School of Hard IM Entrepreneurial Knocks?
  • Profile picture of the author lcombs
    No-brainer.....!
    College.
    And, preferably, pursuing an advanced degree.
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  • Profile picture of the author socialentry
    College by far
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      I recommend the option to choose Entrepreneurship. Being an entrepreneur or taking that path towards it, builds an incredible repertoire of vast skills. With being self-employed there are so many outstanding advantages one experiences that one could not while being employed by someone else. One experiencing true freedom to do what you want when you want without being told what you can do and when... and what you are to be paid for it.

      A person grows in so many ways on the road to being self-employed. There's humility in being broke on that road and appreciativeness when things are going well. It's the character building and person one becomes on that road to success. The success is not so much making it to your destination, but what became of you in your growth on the way there. Education doesn't have to come within 4 walls from a lecture from a professor who never had their own business to begin with. There are many mentors one can have in all areas of expertise.

      The problem with high failure rates in the entrepreneur world is that it costs nothing to join. However, a person who has experienced success and can replicate it, has spent a lot of time, sweat equity and investment in one's self to get to that point. Success has a price to pay... a ticket that has to be paid at the door to get in. That price involves self-improvement within one's self to such a level one may never experience had they chose to be a 9 to Fiver punching someone else's clock ...building someone else's dream.

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  • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
    I'd like them to go to college. But if they are not "college material" (because not everyone is), I would push them to be entrepreneurs.

    I speak from experience. No college, worked FOR companies for 25 years, always in debt - Just Over Broke paychecks.

    Started my own consulting company, debt free in less than 2 years, bought a house, started my own SEP IRA...

    Of course, the years in the job is where I honed my skills to BE a consultant, but frankly, if I had it to do over again, I'd work for myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    People seem to think college is only about money making. It's not. It's an indepth look into subjects that rock your world. It's learning to think critically and to analyse and synthesis information. A side effect is making some life long friends who share your intellectual interests.

    College, by all means - even if it's just taking personal interest classes.
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    • Profile picture of the author kenmichaels
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      People seem to think college is only about money making. It's not. It's an indepth look into subjects that rock your world. It's learning to think critically and to analyse and synthesis information. A side effect is making some life long friends who share your intellectual interests.

      College, by all means - even if it's just taking personal interest classes.
      Isn't that the parents job?

      Maybe i am off but I think that falls into "life preparedness".
      I know parental guidance can only go so far ...

      btw I vote for college ... then entrepreneur.
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    • Profile picture of the author lcombs
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      People seem to think college is only about money making. It's not. It's an indepth look into subjects that rock your world. It's learning to think critically and to analyse and synthesis information. A side effect is making some life long friends who share your intellectual interests.

      College, by all means - even if it's just taking personal interest classes.
      Couldn't agree more.
      No matter what life-path you chose you need to be able think.
      And, you can never have too much knowledge.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      People seem to think college is only about money making. It's not. It's an indepth look into subjects that rock your world. It's learning to think critically and to analyse and synthesis information. A side effect is making some life long friends who share your intellectual interests.

      College, by all means - even if it's just taking personal interest classes.
      I agree. College develops social skills that will be useful later on. And you are around brighter people. A well rounded education makes it easier to form friendships, and you will tend to have smarter friends.

      I never went to college, but I see the benefits in people I know that did get a degree.

      I only have one reservation about college. Some people go to college because they don't want to leave school. It's a way to extend their "school days".

      Some people become teachers for the same reason...they don't want to leave the school environment. As a parent, I don't know what I could do about that...but I've seen it close up.

      But on average? College is a huge plus, I think.
      Some kids have a strong entrepreneurial drive. To them, I would say that college is training. It makes for better leaders. And kids in college also tended to be more involved in activities in high school. All good training.
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      • Profile picture of the author HeySal
        Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

        I agree. College develops social skills that will be useful later on. And you are around brighter people. A well rounded education makes it easier to form friendships, and you will tend to have smarter friends.

        I never went to college, but I see the benefits in people I know that did get a degree.

        I only have one reservation about college. Some people go to college because they don't want to leave school. It's a way to extend their "school days".

        Some people become teachers for the same reason...they don't want to leave the school environment. As a parent, I don't know what I could do about that...but I've seen it close up.

        But on average? College is a huge plus, I think.
        Some kids have a strong entrepreneurial drive. To them, I would say that college is training. It makes for better leaders. And kids in college also tended to be more involved in activities in high school. All good training.
        My first job after College was AT the college. LOL. I love that environment. Some people aren't meant to be corporate tools. There's nothing one bit wrong with liking to work in academia.....someone has to do it. I've thought of going back a few times. Might someday in the end. Maybe just part time something. The atmosphere makes me happy. It's stimulating to me. Some people would be very uncomfortable in that atmosphere. It's just like anything else - meant for some and not others.

        Isn't that the parents job?

        Maybe i am off but I think that falls into "life preparedness".
        I know parental guidance can only go so far ...
        Ken - it is - but there's only so far a parent can take you. My father is an educated man and was a school system administrator. My interests lie in sciences. Outside of a bit of sociology and a little bit of my poli sci, he was damned lost to be able to teach me anything indepth about my favorite fields. He taught me everyday living skills, survival skills, to stand on my principles, etc.........but when it comes to the fields that were my passions, I had to go to school to get the expertise I wanted in those areas. Parents should not rely school for everything.....they HAVE to rely on schools for some things. Nobody is an expert at everything.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    College. All the time in the world to be an entrepreneur.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    I want my son, almost 4, to be happy and live a healthy lifestyle, whatever path he takes. With his inquisitive nature and eye for detail and how he quickly notices inconsistencies in things, I wouldn't be surprised if he became a scientist, a documentary filmmaker, or G#d forbid, a police detective (it is hard to get anything by him).

    It is hard to say what path he'll take. He often says, "I want to make money by making people laugh." If there is one thing I prefer he'd not do, it is enter the acting profession. He asked me if the actor in the Cat in the Cat movie makes money by making people laugh. I reluctantly said yes. He then asked me if he makes a lot of money. I more reluctantly answered in the affirmative. He then victoriously shouted, "See!?" as if he knew I secretly don't want him to become an actor.
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  • Profile picture of the author TopTier Profits
    I'd want them to do whatever makes them happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author LastWarrior
      An entrepreneurship can always be learned side by side if one takes the road through traditional higher education. I for one had way more money and a better lifestyle, so to speak, than my peers in the last few years of high school and the years in college I attended. Why? They only knew one way to make money and that was to go and fill out job applications and give their resume in hopes of getting hired. While I had many options on collecting a check and many of it was reacting on some crazy idea or implementing an old one.

      The commonality I like between the two is the preparedness, commitment, hard work and persistence it takes to succeed. Except I believe if one were to collect all those hard earned hours of education, the Entrepreneur will have learned to fish to feed him/her self for a lifetime.

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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I think the question you have to ask yourself is whether you are prepared to support your child indefinitely if he or she fails. If so, is it really good for them to rely on parents' handouts for life? I just can't see why can't they wait a few more years going to college. I am sure they will be more equipped afterwards. Remember that a lot of the great Internet businesses such as Facebook and Google were started in College.

    There are lots of people in this forum, myself included who are not doing that well after 10 years in IM because of constant changes in IM.
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    • Profile picture of the author AprilCT
      I'd rather see the kids get an education first, then tackle whatever--a job or starting their own biz. If the biz doesn't work out, they are still prepared via graduating from higher learning.

      In any event, it all boils down to just how savvy the child is in the first place. I've seen high school grads go on to be millionaires. The question remains whether or not those people would have achieved their fat wallets much faster and with less stress if they had been prepared for the problems and perils of the business world via higher ed.
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    • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

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      There are lots of people in this forum, myself included who are not doing that well after 10 years in IM because of constant changes in IM.
      You're an enigma, Derek. How do you even find time to do IM, working as a medical doctor in fast-paced Hong Kong and having a family to take care of?
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      • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
        Originally Posted by thunderbird View Post

        You're an enigma, Derek. How do you even find time to do IM, working as a medical doctor in fast-paced Hong Kong and having a family to take care of?
        Adam, I am actually retired from medical virology since 2005 and have been doing full time IM since then. That is when it became apparent that I could no longer manage it.
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      I think the question you have to ask yourself is whether you are prepared to support your child indefinitely if he or she fails. If so, is it really good for them to rely on parents' handouts for life? I just can't see why can't they wait a few more years going to college. I am sure they will be more equipped afterwards. Remember that a lot of the great Internet businesses such as Facebook and Google were started in College.

      There are lots of people in this forum, myself included who are not doing that well after 10 years in IM because of constant changes in IM.
      You have to be prepared - as a parent - to support your child whether they become entrepreneurs or go to college and get a job. And as a parent you have to know the difference between a hand out and a leg up. I'd help any of my kids get on their feet, but not support them indefinitely.

      Also, I assumed that "being an entrepreneur" did not only include I.M. I made good money in I.M. for a couple of years but like you said - things changed. Now I make 90% of my income in my consulting business
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  • Profile picture of the author GforceSage
    It never hurts to have a college education, however, college as we have known it has become a bit outdated and cost prohibitive for many, unless you want to graduate with much debt.

    Now, more than ever, if you do not have contacts, know how to properly network, have a friend or family member able to help open doors, or get a key internship, you may find your job prospects more limited than you realize.

    I would pursue internet marketing and also continue with my education if you can make that work. The world is changing faster than most colleges course offerings...so for that reason, it is wise to be a step ahead of the change if you can. The internet is growing by leaps and bounds. Anyone wanting "To make it" would be wise to find their niche and be a part of this revolution as you also take college courses to be well-rounded.
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  • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
    College first, then give entrepreneurship a try.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ghoster
    College first. But if he or she is displaying unstoppable zeal and passion I would relent after a while.

    More important to me that they have a degree is that they're following their passions.

    That said, I don't have kids yet .
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  • Profile picture of the author David Braybrooke
    I would like my kids to do whatever makes them happiest! By the time they reach college age I'd expect that they would have the ability to make their own life decisions. Independence to be encouraged. Guidance offered if requested.
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    I want them to be comfortable in their own skin.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Riffle
      Originally Posted by bizgrower View Post

      I want them to be comfortable in their own skin.
      Thank God! It'd be weird if you wanted them to be comfortable in somebody else's skin.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeAmbrosio
        Originally Posted by Dan Riffle View Post

        Thank God! It'd be weird if you wanted them to be comfortable in somebody else's skin.
        Especially if it was YOUR skin.
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          Originally Posted by MikeAmbrosio View Post

          Especially if it was YOUR skin.
          Words taken right out of my mouth.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    A lot of kids already are making good money on their own years before they're college-age, enough to live independently and pay for tuition if they lost their parents or whatever.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrumpiaTim
    Tough one, ideally I'd like for them to finish school but if they can pull off a business proposal and were passionate about following their entrepreneur instinct, I would definitely hear them out.
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