Cliven Bundy in the news again: Slavery not so bad after all...

Yes, the difference is huge but of course some will say you are being partisan by pointing out the obvious. Go figure. :/

WOW! THAT is a highly intelligent way to handle things(SARC)!

Steve

No, it wasn't. Both comments were stupid and thoughtless and displayed a bigotry it's likely both men would claim not to have.

You would defend or at least excuse one person's racist remarks...and you would call the other person un-American.

So - is it really about racism? Or about party politics?

You mean other than the fact that he works harder than most people - on or off of welfare - ever will.

It's unfortunate that the guy is a racist douche - but that doesn't get the government off of the hook for their behavior. They are doing land grabs all over the west.

And before you spout that nonsense that it was "never their land" - that's the whole point. In any other state where farmers had worked the land for generations, that would have been their land. You may be happy giving your property over to the government, but there are still some of us that would rather keep it, thank you.

Well isn't it interesting that his land got destroyed, too?

It's still not the whole point in the issue. The issue is the BLM using military force against citizens. They set up free speech zones (America?), they pointed guns at unarmed protesters, they claimed state land as federal land (No state sovereignty?), they slaughtered cattle in some very sickening ways (Severe animal abuse is okay because someone is in despute over finances?) .

This was a military action against a civilian. Again - get your head around that. Right or wrong - since when is it okay to launch a military action against civilians?

Just looks like in a civil war, many of us will be on opposing sides. I'm on the one that understands that GOV land is what used to be called "Public" land because it belonged to the PEOPLE. It's been taken from us. Gov was not supposed to be a separate entity from the people in the US.

So I take it because the Gov wants land down at the TX/OK border it's going to be okay with you when the BLM takes a militia in against people refusing to sell? Is the land they are trying to take in NM okay too? You must also be okay that a whole TOWN of 25,000 people just had their land ripped out from under them in Riverton, WY? Guess the BLM pointing guns and arresting people on their own mining claim in OR last year was okay, too, huh? After all - they just bought their claim which was on gov land.

Bundy is a propaganda job and half our country is falling for it. You can laugh at me now or call me a tinfoil freak - but I've been following the issue real hard because it's very centrally important in my main niche. Right now the mining land grab in Oregon is a very heated issue including possibilities of representative recalls. You're just getting wind of the one case they can use for publicity because of the dispute that's been going on over that land in the first place. But that's okay - people like to scream about issues that the only thing they know about is what MSM tells them. Do you think the citizens would have launched a counter militia to stop BLM if this were an isolated case and the gov was right? They might have because of the military action. Nobody is willing to let another Ruby Ridge happen - that's not AMERICA as a constitutional republic.

Before you all decide that military actions are okay if the guy isn't the guy who would be your best friend - remember there were a lot of local protesters down there for a reason. Citizen militias were ready to move on it for a reason. There have been investigations on several "authorities" for this one for a reason.

If investigations into BLM turn up the fact they are a corporate structure and not a gov agency, you're going to see some heads roll at the top. Maybe you can't get your head around what is wrong with a corp having military authority in this country - and that is not a good thing.