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Okay, I played 3 years of Soccer in grade School. But I went on to concentrate on other Sports as I got older.

It is a great Sport but Iam afraid to say I have not kept up with it.

Today at lunch I was reading my Sports Illustrated. They had a big article on Pele. It talked about some of the controversy he has had with his Country and other things like being a walking billboard ( I sure cant fault the guy for averaging 28 mil a year in endorsements. But some people do)

Anyway, Argentina's Maradona evidently takes mean shots at Pele whenever he can. He as well as all of Argentina think Maradona and two others were better than Pele in Soccer.

What do some of you think ?

To me Pele the name itself is iconic. Maybe Maradona could have been a better player. But to most of the World Pele is synonymous with Soccer. End of story !!

(Maybe Maradona is just jealous of this fact since he is an Aging fat little fart )

Pele is just like Ali was with boxing. Sure, Tyson at 20 could beat Ali in his prime. But Ali to me is and will always be Boxing . Just as Pele is Soccer.
  • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
    I'm old enough to remember watching Pele play. A fabulously gifted footballer - and whenever I see him interviewed, he comes across as a decent chap.

    Maradona, by contrast, acts like a weasel and after the infamous "Hand of God" incident during the 1986 World Cup, he's no favorite with any England football fan.

    But if I'm honest, he was probably the better footballer. Which, I think, just about makes him the greatest ever.

    Ouch. That hurt.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Frank Donovan View Post

      Maradona, by contrast, acts like a weasel and after the infamous "Hand of God" incident during the 1986 World Cup, he's no favorite with any England football fan.
      This^

      Maradona was a great player but as someone who got a bit too keen on football in my youth, I can confirm I think he's a no good cheating coke taking runt that looks like a mushroom. I wouldn't wee on him if I found him on fire.

      Pele on the other hand is a gentleman. Top bloke and a legend.
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      • Profile picture of the author Frank Donovan
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        I can confirm I think he's a no good cheating coke taking runt that looks like a mushroom. I wouldn't wee on him if I found him on fire.
        Splorf!! Richard, get off the fence and tell us what you really think.


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    Discrat i agree with you..
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    I grew up watching Maradona, I mean not a lot just mainly during the 86, 90 and some of 94 world cups. Never saw Pele play though seen some videos, but to me Maradona was better than Pele, even if he did score the hand of God goal. No denying the next goal was one of the best of all time, even though we may still have been a bit vulnerable after such a blow, but my memories hazy.
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    • Profile picture of the author scrapcar
      Pele easily Maradone Cheat.
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  • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
    That Maradona fella is pretty popular in this neck of the woods lol.

    On a serious note I would have to say Maradona, he won the world cup with a distinctly
    average Argentina, where Pele and Brazil were full of stars.

    Plus Pele never played in Europe, his record is awesome but he never tested
    himself regularly against the best.

    I think guys like Messi and Ronaldo are taking the game to a whole new level
    though.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by MIB Mastermind View Post

      That Maradona fella is pretty popular in this neck of the woods lol.
      Oh yes.

      I have a site that flogs Argie football shirts to you lot whenever England are unlucky enough to play them.

      I just wish they played more, you splendid fellas over the wall would have me retired by now!
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      • Profile picture of the author MIB Mastermind
        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

        Oh yes.

        I have a site that flogs Argie football shirts to you lot whenever England are unlucky enough to play them.

        I just wish they played more, you splendid fellas over the wall would have me retired by now!
        You'll be hoping they draw each other in the coming weeks, if you guys can
        navigate a tough group it may just happen!
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by MIB Mastermind View Post

          if you guys can
          navigate a tough group it may just happen!
          Sadly my friend, I doubt England will be able to navigate their way off the team bus.

          Still, I live in eternal, albeit blind, hope.

          I do agree though, I may not like him but as a footballer, Maradona was something else.
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          • Profile picture of the author whateverpedia
            Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

            Sadly my friend, I doubt England will be able to navigate their way off the team bus.


            But, but, but, every year the English press says that this tournament is the one! They've been saying that since 1966.

            To make you feel better though, here's one of the most memorable goals in World Cup history, one which every Englishman will remember forever.


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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by whateverpedia View Post

              But, but, but, every year the English press says that this tournament is the one! They've been saying that since 1966.
              Nooooo. I release bogus reports to the press who say that crap so I can then sell England flags, pens, car flags and other stuff that we'd normally be told we're racist for wearing.

              I also believe we're lucky enough to be the only nation on Earth that can be called racist when we show national pride. Hence it's no doubt planned demise.

              It's ok during the world cup though.

              To make you feel better though, here's one of the most memorable goals in World Cup history, one which every Englishman will remember forever.
              Yes I remember that, one of the worst tournaments I've ever seen. Losing to America 1-1. Tragedy. I remember the best thing I remember about that was the back drop of Table Mountain seen from the commentary box and the entire French squad going into meltdown.

              My money is on Qatar if they're there. If they can swap enough cash around to get the next world cup played in furnace style temperatures, I'm sure they'll have shoved enough brown envelopes around to win the football in this one.

              Just for you fella, here's one of the most memorable goals in Rugby world cup history, one which every Australian will remember forever.


              I'm sorry, I had to.

              (Edit. That smilie is meant to be sticking his tongue out but actually looks dead, like Englands chances at this world cup )
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  • Profile picture of the author roton
    Actually I don't see their live play football. But I see their many videos form internet. Overall I think maradana is the best player in the world.
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  • Profile picture of the author thunderbird
    Pele, of course. He's played in World Cup winning teams and was instrumental in their victory. One of his goals is so iconic that even newer generations of people who never follow soccer are familiar with it. Anyway, I didn't even know that Madonna played soccer. She's not the greatest singer in the world, but she has a wide range of talents.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    I was buying food in a Chinese take away in the UK when I saw this goal on television. I didn't know about the "hand of God" that had happened a few minutes. This goal is quite possibly the greatest goal ever seen on television.

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    • Profile picture of the author alistair
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      I was buying food in a Chinese take away in the UK when I saw this goal on television. I didn't know about the "hand of God" that had happened a few minutes. This goal is quite possibly the greatest goal ever seen on television.

      Soccer-world cup 1986 by Diego Maradona(Argentina vs England - YouTube
      That goal by Maradona was really a great goal even though I hate to say it, and although I was only a kid at the time I remember watching the game and near the end walking round in circles in the kitchen hoping and praying that England would equalise, but no such luck. Personally though, I think this is possible the greatest goal ever seen on television.
      I didn't really expect myself to be very excited about this world cup for some reason, but as it gets closer I can feel the excitement building and really can't wait for our first game.

      Don't know whether we'll win it, it's of course more likely that we won't being in Brazil and stuff but I'll never, ever say we can't win. I'm forever the eternal optimist when it comes to England.

      I'm even really looking forward to the game in an hour or so against Equador being played in Miami. I don't know much about Equador but I hope we play better than we did against Peru. Funny that even though we won, below was the best shot of the game. Shame about the annoying womans irritating bloody voice in the background.
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      • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
        Originally Posted by alistair View Post

        I think this is possible the greatest goal ever seen on television.
        Emile Heskey goal (England 5-1 Germany) Martin Tyler & Andy Gray - YouTube
        One thing Alistair, those were the five goals that made me the happiest I've been during a game of football.

        Don't know whether we'll win it, it's of course more likely that we won't being in Brazil and stuff but I'll never, ever say we can't win. I'm forever the eternal optimist when it comes to England.
        I'm the opposite but it's merely a form of self protection. I want it so much and don't want to end up in tears if the bloody Germans beat us on penalties again, or America beat us 1-1.

        I'm even really looking forward to the game in an hour or so against Equador being played in Miami. I don't know much about Equador but I hope we play better than we did against Peru.
        We lost again, 2-2. Mind you Italy lost to Luxembourg 1-1.

        I am looking forward to it, the beer drenched flag is ready, there's an amount of beer in the garage that frightens me it'll be mere wee in a few weeks and I even got excited on the drive in when "Footballs coming home" came on the radio.

        Enjoy it Alistair, enjoy.
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        • Profile picture of the author alistair
          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          I'm the opposite but it's merely a form of self protection. I want it so much and don't want to end up in tears if the bloody Germans beat us on penalties again, or America beat us 1-1.
          Funny, I was talking to somebody yesterday that was only a baby at the time Italia 90 was on, about how I felt after we lost to West Germany on penalties. I was a teenager at the time and couldn't even watch the penalties, I went and sat on the toilet seat in the bathroom instead, but remember knowing we'd lost cos I could hear the old man saying what a shame it was.

          I think I've built up a bit of a tolerance to us losing on penalties cos I didn't feel so bad in 96 and whatever has come after.

          Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

          We lost again, 2-2. Mind you Italy lost to Luxembourg 1-1.

          I am looking forward to it, the beer drenched flag is ready, there's an amount of beer in the garage that frightens me it'll be mere wee in a few weeks and I even got excited on the drive in when "Footballs coming home" came on the radio.

          Enjoy it Alistair, enjoy.
          Didn't think much of the game last night but these freindlies before the finals are always the same.

          Yeah, I know what you mean about hearing football songs on the radio, personally I prefer

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          Not only the best England song imo but a proper good tune.

          I don't drink anymore, but you enjoy the beer and let's hope it won't be drunk to drown any sorrows.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by alistair View Post

            I was a teenager at the time and couldn't even watch the penalties
            We must be a similar age, I was in my teens too.

            Excellent song too, I forgot about that one
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            • Profile picture of the author alistair
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

              We must be a similar age, I was in my teens too.
              Sounds like it. Let's just say that when we lost to West Germany in Italia 90, it was on my 17th birthday.
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