Obama Commits Murder!

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And on TV too. Shocking stuff!

YouTube - Obama Swats Fly during CNBC Interview
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  • PETA is upset

    London Free Press - Canada & World- Obama PETA's latest target

    "He isn't the Buddha, he's a human being and human beings have a long way to go before they think before they act,"
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    • Any enemy of PETA is a friend of mine.

      The only thing I find news worthy about the fly thing is that he was fast enough to get it. Those little suckers are quick.
  • PETA. huh. They kill 90% of the animals they "save". They are kind of like green peace gone completely whacked. But it's for the animals own good you understand. And nobody else is qualified to kill but them. THey got the word straight from God I guess.
    Scary organization. I love animals but I won't let a PETA nut case near one when I can help it.
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  • Flies don't vote, bubba.
  • This is absurd. All this energy stirred up over a fly! Wow, with everything that's going on...families homeless, hungry, children confused and frighten by their families situation, etc. All this attention for a nasty fly that vomits on your food when you're not looking. Bye fly! I won't miss you.
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    • How do you know that?

      As they are to small to be able to pick up a pen or pencil, they may have been granted a postal vote.

      Heck sorry - then they would have had to have picked up the heavy voting form to post it - I retract everything.

      Anyway, I doubt that that particular fly was even registered to vote. They only live for about 60 hours as I understand. :confused:

      Jeff.
  • Finally! Now you know why some of us voted for the other guy.

    JK :p
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  • And just when you thought PETA couldn't get anymore stupid. They won't have any credibility left with anyone after this. They are that upset over a fly? I'd like to put a bunch of mosquitos carrying malaria, fleas carrying the bubonic plague and flies carrying the tsetse virus in these PETA members homes. They wouldn't dare swat at them.
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    • Valerie,Ummm... I can't stand PETA, but they aren't making an issue out of it. The media contacted them for an "official response" to the incident, and PETA blew it off as no big deal.

      Not them that's being nuts this time.


      Paul
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  • All I can say is that the fly had very poor taste and lousy timing.
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    I think Obama was leading by example.he showed how focus,concentration and determination could make you do the toughest of things and killing a flay at one shot is no joke. its easier to hunt a dreaded tiger or a leapord at one shot but to kill a fly at one shot you need to be exceptional.Americans made a right choice by selecting him and this fly act of this would add in his achievements.In the next presidential debate republican candidate will have a tough act to follow.so start practicing all the republican hopefuls!!!!!!!!
  • does it make anyone else sad that this is actually newsworthy?
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  • He's quick, those reactions are off the chart. El presidente.
  • Just remember, meat is murder...tasty tasty murder...
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    • Well you know Mike, they say cow farts are responsible for our climate problems.
      So to protect our planet I am doing my part and eating every cow and calf I can, especially the calves, hmmmmm veal
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  • other than gut and rework the automotive industry, shore up the banking industry, get us a$$ deep in debt until the planet ends, try to make amends with islamic nations, rework the healthcare industry, take on food label inconsistencies....not much, he's just hangin around taking pictures i guess
  • Thanks warriors for those precious seconds of fun. I needed that.
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  • Maybe he didn't have his humane bug catcher with him.
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    • You mean Joe Biden?

      Oops, sorry, I thought you said 'human' ... didn't see the 'e' on the end.

      :p
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  • B. Hussein killed a fly. Well, he found something that he can finally do other than being a Marxist.
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    • So, now it's only B. Hussein?

    • Why do I get the feeling that you voted for the worst president in American history- twice??

      ( that was Bush in 2000 )

      And if you were too young to do it in 2000, why do it get the feeling that you voted against the country changing away the worst set of attitudes ( that lead to horrible policies )
      in American history?

      TL
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  • News used to be objective. Remember Watergate? That was before news media was owned corporately. When you are owned by a corp - you do as the corp allows you to do.......and when you figure how dependent the Gov has made corps on government and how much money Gov gets from them - you aren't going to hear real news from any of the major media. There were even moves recently by one of Bushes pals that owns many of the news media to make a further grab. Not sure what happened to the bill prohibiting further consolidation or whether it passed or not.

    That's why I read 3rd party news. Some of them go further in the other direction than is honest, too - but there's a lot more going down behind the scenes than the average person is willing to look at yet. And there is so much of it, that its just hard to keep up and research everything.
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    • I hear your 3rd party stuff, but I think the progressive wing of the dem party can take back control of the policies of the party.

      It won't be easy but it can be done.

      TL
  • OK.. I'm a Vegan....

    My first thought when I saw the title of this post was.. OK.. I HAVE to check this out. And when I saw the video I thought... THAT WAS A FREAKING AWESOME TITLE! There's got to be a way to capitalize on this!

    I won't get into the meat/ veggie issue.... But in regards to PETA....

    I absolutely agree that some people in the group, and even the organization as a whole, can take things too far sometimes.

    And I know that PETA does kill animals... But hello people....

    It's called People for the ETHICAL Treatment of Animals...

    ETHICAL....

    They know that they're not going to get everyone to stop eating meat. But what they do want to see happen is if you're going to kill an animal.... JUST freaking kill it. Don't torture them.

    Real quick, let me get MY opinion out of the way so I can get back to the issue at hand...

    I'm not one to push my ways on anyone. I understand ignorance is bliss. My belief is that if you want to eat meat, you should have to kill it yourself. There's plenty of people (men and women) that would be fine with that because that's how they were raised. But I believe that 90% of the people would not kill their own meat.

    People often ask me why I don't eat meat, and it's funny because most meat eaters that encounter vegetarians are annoyed at them trying to push vegetarianism on them (which I don't do... But if you WANT to know the advantages feel free to contact me, or even pick up a book called "Sknny Bitch"), but I have meat eaters trying to push meat on me all the time and make me "understand" why "it's OK to eat meat" or why I should.

    KFC is a perfect example. They're HORRIBLE when it comes to the treatment of animals.

    I just read on the online news (I almost NEVER read the news and here's a perfect example why) There was a story about a 26 year old guy that beat a puppy to death with a shovel and a board with nails...

    Let me ask you... Is that cool, or even OK?

    ... No?

    Is it just because it's a puppy? Would that have been OK if it were a cow?

    It's one thing to have a farm and raise animals for milk and slaughter so that you can eat to live. The reason I don't eat meat is because I love animals, and I don't have to. It's freaking 2009... The days of just tofu and beans is way past. There's just so many choices, I'd rather not have an innocent being have their life taken.

    NOW... With that said... I used to eat meat growing up... and it is delicious! The 2 things I think I miss the most are:

    1 - Corn Beef Hash
    2 - Taylor Ham Egg & Cheeses (If you don't know what I'm talking about, It's a Jersey Thing!)

    It tastes great...It's just disgusting.... But don't get me wrong. If I was stranded on a desert island and there was nothing to eat but animals... Sorry mister floppy... We're having rabbit stew tonight.

    The whole point is that it doesn't matter if your a scumbag to people or animals.... IF you're a scumbag... you're a scumbag...

    OH... And flies bring disease... so down with the flies! ( I only kill things that may bring harm to me and my family... flies, mosquitoes, ticks, fleas etc....)

    And as far as the voting machines...

    "He who votes counts for nothing but he who counts the votes counts for everything"

    - Russian dictator Josef Stalin

    Voting Machines Should Be ILLEGAL.

    (I know I may catch a lot of flack for this post from all the warrior meat eaters, but I think it's important to stand up for what you believe in)

    Oh and one more thing.. I think that was just a way to spin an article (and well done too obviously)... PETA didn't even say anything other than Obama wasn't Buddha...

    ~Russell Prisco =)
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    • So you're saying that if a person in New York City wants a hamburger they should raise a cow in their apartment?
      Or you're saying every person in every city should be a vegan?
      So because they have Ethical in their name, only they are deemed wise enough to determine what animals shall live or die?
      So everyone who isn't a vegan is ignorant?
      Typical, pull an example of cruel treatment on one animal and try to make like that is how all animals are killed for meat.
      It seems you think that farmers who raise livestock don't love animals and aren't smart enough to figure out how to eat if they don't like meat.
      As soon as man encroached any wildlife's environment, man became responsible for the wildlife in that environment. As we take up more space we have to control the populations of the wildlife left in the space we have left them. It may not be right in your mind, but that is the way it is. If we don't control their populations then disease and starvation will. If all mankind stopped eating meat, then you have all the domestic animals that where raised for meat running wild and dieing from starvation and disease also, or you have the extinction of the domestic animals.
  • This turned from Obama to vegatarianism.

    Thom how could all the animals die of starvation and disease is ppl fed em and petted em and cuddled em? They would be like puppies n kitties.
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    • Maybe in Wonderland Val, but reality is a different place
    • I'm saying that people just eat meat because they were conditioned to do so because that's what their parents fed them as young children. If they fed them cow, dog or human, is irrelevant. That's what they've been conditioned to do... whether someone else thinks it's right or wrong. That's why we as Americans (as a whole) think it's disgusting to eat dogs.

      I'm not saying I condone what PETA does anymore than I support what a butcher does, but do are you really against them not wanting animals to be tortured?

      Boy you sure have a way to try and twist things....

      No. that would be ignorant of ME to think so.

      What I am simply saying is that it's EASIER for most people not to question things like this because it doens't "FEEL GOOD" to know the horrible things that go on in slaughter houses like how many cows don't actually die before they get dropped into boiling water. It's easier for someone to go to WalMart and pick up a package of "food" than it is to slaughter an animal themselves.

      Typical? what are you talking about....

      Like I said before... ignorance is bliss...

      I never said that's how all animals are killed for meat. Just an example of how it's not OK to torture animals... sorry if you disagree with that.

      I didn't intend for this to be a back and forth meaty vs veggie conflict, but if it's ok for meat eaters to give their meaty thoughts there's no reason I can't share my veggie thoughts =)


      To say you love animals and eat them is ridiculous. Sure you can be carnivorous and love your dog... but then you don't love animals, you love dogs. And I'm not saying that they're not smart enough, they've just been conditioned to think it's Ok. Just like you apparently have, and just like I was when I was growing up.

      Controlling the population is different from Factory Farms like McDonalds Wiping out huge chunks of the rain forest so they can mass breed animals for slaughter.

      So... the only way we can save animals from dying..... is to eat them.... hmmm.. yeah...

      I'll make sure not to be around your neck of the woods if I'm ever starving....

      Let's just agree to disagree and get back on topic. =)
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    • lol...agreed. I just posted my thoughts after seeing all the meat posts.

      Anyways, let's get things back on topic....

      I still think the title of this post was awesome =)

      OK.. who's next? =)

      ~Russell Prisco =)
  • Has anyone seen the comments on youtube like this "did he died" ... for some reason, I can see that being said here as well....and does anyone else think that is the most stupid thing ever!? especially on videos like failblog or other videos "did he died"... sheesh!
  • actually, people eat meat because of a lot of reasons. mostly because its goooooooood.

    and exactly how does mcdonalds wipe out huge chunks of the rain forest to mass bread?

    cows not dead before they are dropped in boiling water in a slaughter house? I worked in a slaughterhouse as a teen...being the guy in charge of putting out bessies lights..i can tell you without a doubt, they are dead before they hit the floor in most slaughterhouses.

    domesticated animals have one purpose...to feed the population. People dont have pet turkeys, chickens, cows and pigs for a reason...they arent pets.
  • Thom I'm getting you a herd of cute goats and sheep. You can't kill em but you can milk the goats and make goat cheese pizza

    And you can pet em and cuddle with em and baby talk em.
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    • That's ok VAl.
      My friend has goats (and chickens, guinea hens,rabbits, and geese) and just down from him is a small sheep farm. Down the road from me is a small cattle farm where they raise Angus beef. Then there is all the wildlife around me like deer, rabbits (I have a small family living in my yard) Turkey, and my personal favorite a Pileated Woodpecker.
      Growing up on farms and having killed and butchered many animals I can tell you that unless you have lived that life you can't understand how someone can raise and care for an animal and still use it for food. I can tell you that there isn't any hate towards the animals, they have a purpose and play a vary important role in the cycle of life.
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  • All right... well, let's wrap up this post, I've still got to spend some time marketing..lol..

    The majority of people are not going to stop eating meat, and I'm not trying to force anyone to. Once again, just a meat eater and vegetarian sharing their opinions...

    There are people that are so hard core that they will not eat a piece of fruit that did not naturally fall from the tree... way too much for me.

    Yes, it's scientifically proven that plants do feel pain. And no, I would not say that I "love" plants. If you read the previous posts you'd know 2 things...

    1, I don't eat that many vegetables lol.... although I suppose that you can count soybeans etc...

    I do however like them, and have a great appreciation for them, such as the people you speak of that pray before they kill an animal or before they eat it. Again, that is APPRECIATION.. not love.

    For your farmer down the road example, that may be true for him, but he is then BY FAR the exception, not the rule. And again, it's because how he was raised, just like the way you were raised also.

    You right, I don't understand and don't ever think I will. It sounds to me like you were raised on a farm, maybe you appreciated the animals you cared for, maybe you loved them, and then you did what your parents told you to do like any child does, which I do get. Again, your parents (all of our parents) teach you what is "OK", right and wrong.

    2. I said that if I had to, I would eat meat to survive. I eat "plants" because my body needs them to survive. If I didn't have to, I probably wouldn't. But that's the way it is. I'm not saying that we should turn lions into vegans, but we're humans and one would think that after eating meat for "thousands of years of doing so" that we could evolve into something greater. Lots of things have happened for thousands of years..... That doesn't make it right. Wars, rape, murder, holy wars etc...

    My "argument" is simply my opinion, which is fully in tact. There is so many options available for food without having an innocent animal Die.

    As for the farmer down the road, again, it's a matter of conditioning at a young age. That's just the way it is for all of us. I would agree from our conversation that farming is a different way of life, and one that that farmer adapted to. He may make more money at a day job and even work less, but he's most likely accustomed to that way of life. That's his identity. It's who he is.

    So again, we both agree that factory farms suck, I never mentioned anything about puppy mills (which also suck), we both agree that the whole rabbit incident was a sad and needless event, it's more than just Mickey D's destroying the rain forest (never said they were SOLEY responsible), there is a difference between torturing an animal and killing it for food indeed and it's a shame that with the bigger companies things like this do happen, intentionally and unintentionally. I could give you some examples, but I believe you'd try to justify it saying... Typical... take one event....

    My take. I'm not trying to get you to stop eating meat. This is my personal belief, I'm not belittling anyone, and I'm certainly not acting all superior.. I could turn that around with all your, you don't know what it's like because you weren't raised on a farm comments... but i don't believe you meant it like that either.

    So please know, that I do not feel I am superior, but do feel like I have made the superior choice for me, just as you feel you have made the superior choice for you.

    I apologize for this mixed, and somewhat sporadic post. I just didn't feel like putting quotes around everything.


    You like meat.. I like meat... you'd kill it yourself because you were raised on a farm, I wouldn't because I think it's unnecessary but would if I had to.... etc....


    Again, lets just agree to disagree and get back to making money.


    So, is there anything I can do to help you with your business (please don't take this as me thinking I'm superior (If I was just judging from the amounts of posts, I'd say you got me there!) just genuinely offering some assistance if there's anything I can do.)


    It's been fun,


    ~Russell Prisco =)
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    • Gasp! How dare you not eat many vegetables. Tsk tsk. Don't you know how healthy they are and yummy! Shame on you, you're not one of those chocolate and chip vegetarians are you?

      If I lived on a farm I'd be a vegetarian for sure. I wouldn't be able to eat an animal that I once saw alive whether it was a pet or not or whether I cared for it or not.
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