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Don't Waste Your Signature Space - Link Out To A Charity Instead

by nik0 Banned
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I see plenty of people who either don't use their signature or have some quote of the day.

Why not do something useful with that space and link out to a charity?

Click here to change your signature now:

http://www.warriorforum.com/profile....=editsignature

And here a list if you need inspiration to chose your charity organization:

http://www.charitywatch.org/toprated.html
#charity #link #signature #space #waste
  • Profile picture of the author Mark Singletary
    Because there is a rule that says a signature has to point to your own site.

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    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

    I see plenty of people who either don't use their signature or have some quote of the day.

    Why not do something useful with that space and link out to a charity?
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Mark Singletary View Post

      Because there is a rule that says a signature has to point to your own site.

      Mark
      I think the forum owners won't have a problem with this. Let's see if they chime in and rewrite there rule to contain exceptions for good causes.
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  • Profile picture of the author cyberzolo
    Or you could just let people use their sig space whichever way they want too...

    Giving to charity is fine and all but you shouldn't try to force people to do things they might not want to do.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by cyberzolo View Post

      Or you could just let people use their sig space whichever way they want too...

      Giving to charity is fine and all but you shouldn't try to force people to do things they might not want to do.
      Why would people not want to link out to some charity if they don't use their signature, would be quite selfish.
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      • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Why would people not want to link out to some charity if they don't use their signature, would be quite selfish.
        You opened with a great proposal but having followed up with this you've just detracted from it somewhat.

        If you want to promote anything to an audience it's perhaps unwise to state that they posses a negative trait if they don't participate. We don't sell by condemning.

        You should be positive and continue to push the benefits.
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        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
          Originally Posted by Daniel Evans View Post

          If you want to promote anything to an audience it's perhaps unwise to state that they posses a negative trait if they don't participate. We don't sell by condemning.
          I agree Daniel.

          Nik0. There are people here who do not currently do that, probably because the rules say to link to a site you own. You may have done better had you contacted a mod or the help desk to ask and if it was a yes, you could have really convinced people. You can't call people selfish for not linking to a charity when the rules appear to not allow it.

          Having said that when some Warriors have been in difficulty it has been known to link to sites to help them out, which is charity.

          It's also safe to say that because someone leaves their sig blank, doesn't mean they don't already donate or even volunteer time for their favourite charities. In fact, you've no idea what people already are doing to help others so to suggest it's selfish not to link to a charity via your signature, when no powers that be have said it's ok, is a little unfair.

          It's an excellent idea though. Would you remove the make money part of your signature for a week or two to focus on your charity? How about putting the charity above your making money link?
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      • Profile picture of the author MissTerraK
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Why would people not want to link out to some charity if they don't use their signature, would be quite selfish.
        Hardly!

        ˈselfiSH/
        adjective
        adjective: selfish

        (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

        synonyms: egocentric, egotistic, egotistical, egomaniacal, self-centered, self-absorbed, self-obsessed, self-seeking, self-serving, wrapped up in oneself;
        inconsiderate, thoughtless, unthinking, uncaring, uncharitable; mean, miserly, grasping, greedy, mercenary, acquisitive, opportunistic

        informal~looking after number one


        Wow! That's a whole lot of insult you just threw out there.





        Haha!


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        • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
          Originally Posted by MissTerraK View Post

          Hardly!

          ˈselfiSH/
          adjective
          adjective: selfish

          (of a person, action, or motive) lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one's own personal profit or pleasure.

          synonyms: egocentric, egotistic, egotistical, egomaniacal, self-centered, self-absorbed, self-obsessed, self-seeking, self-serving, wrapped up in oneself;
          inconsiderate, thoughtless, unthinking, uncaring, uncharitable; mean, miserly, grasping, greedy, mercenary, acquisitive, opportunistic

          informal~looking after number one
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre View Post

            ...by the way, did you know that many Charity fund raising companies keep 80% of the money they raise as a fee (that's the max), and the other 20% is donated...of which 80% (of the 20%) is used for direct mail to raise more money. That means... - snip -
            I wouldn't have known the numbers, but I knew many charities spend more on expenses and fund-raising than they do on those they're supposed to be helping.

            That's why I choose my charities carefully. They're almost always local, except for things like the Red Cross when there's a natural disaster (e.g., Hurricane Katrina or the Phuket tsunami).
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    • Profile picture of the author Social Media Ava
      Originally Posted by cyberzolo View Post

      Or you could just let people use their sig space whichever way they want too...

      Giving to charity is fine and all but you shouldn't try to force people to do things they might not want to do.
      It didn't really seem like he was trying to force anyone to do it anything. It seemed more like a thoughtful suggestion. I certainly hadn't thought of it. It's not a bad idea. I'm waiting to hear from the higher-ups though to make sure it's okay.
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    He comes Nike again with a concealed motive, grrrrr!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    On the surface it sounds like a good idea. There are potential problems though. One might be members linking to their own personal causes set up at crowdfunding sites.

    Another is one that was present in Nik0's post as it was first written. He drew attention to his signature for an example charity. Trouble is, the first link in his signature was to his own sales thread, so that's where a member's attention is first focused when they see that "see my sig" comment -- on the sales thread link text.

    And then there would be those who set up a phony charity site. There are probably other potential problems I'm not thinking of as well.

    Having said that doesn't mean I'm against the idea. I'm just saying it would need some fleshing out before it could be implemented with the least amount of problems.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I am against the idea. There are tens of thousands of charities - and even more fakes. It's not hard to find places to donate and each person would be wise to choose and vet the charities they donate to.

      We've had people post about a charitable cause by starting a thread in the OT.
      Some of those threads were useful to spread the word about veterans causes, humane society events, and interesting "causes". As they are in threads/posts they can be quickly reported/deleted if they are "personal" charities or scams.

      I can only imagine how many "innocent" posts we would have about "my favorite charity - listed in my sig"....(right below my money making opportunities).
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Allen used to have a link to kiva.org in his sig file.

        Anyway, fine idea in theory, but Kay is right. I'll keep supporting the charities I currently donate to and leave my sig file as is.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lance K
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        I can only imagine how many "innocent" posts we would have about "my favorite charity - listed in my sig"....(right below my money making opportunities).
        Or sig files like...

        Make $XX,XXX in the next 30 days
        Then donate X% to this charity to show your appreciation for me teaching you this awesome system.

        Or this...

        Discover the embarrassingly easy top secret money making system that allows me to donate $X/month to this charity.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claude Whitacre
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      And then there would be those who set up a phony charity site.
      Ok, I hadn't thought of that. But I kind of like the idea. Most of the good names are taken. But I've thought of a few on my own;

      Guns For Tots.
      Movies For The Blind
      Salads For The Obese
      Home Renovations For Pets
      Psychiatric Outreach For Fish

      by the way, did you know that many Charity fund raising companies keep 80% of the money they raise as a fee (that's the max), and the other 20% is donated...of which 80% (of the 20%) is used for direct mail to raise more money. That means that maybe 4% is actually given to the people on the receiving end?

      Soooo....if you get a telemarketer asking for money for a charity, odds are very good that 80% of what you give, is to them. Donate direct. Or better yet, just hand the money to whoever you wanted to get it.

      I only donate to the local animal shelter. When people start getting rounded up, for no reason, and locked up...and sentenced to lethal injection....I'll donate to them too.

      And animals always laugh at my jokes.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    Hey NikO. How many people did you just call "selfish" that donated products, time, or money to help Warriors in dire straits? How many of those have donated money or supplies to people in one of our many recent disasters? How about people here have rescue dogs or cats?

    You don't seem to know us at all. Either that or you are just spending too much time on facebook: 99% won't share this post but if you're really my friend you will.

    Giving via intimidation is kinda like...........taxes.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

      Hey NikO. How many people did you just call "selfish" that donated products, time, or money to help Warriors in dire straits? How many of those have donated money or supplies to people in one of our many recent disasters? How about people here have rescue dogs or cats? .
      It doesn't matter, you can always do more and a sig link is a very easy way of doing it.
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    If you don't use your signature to advance humanity, science, the arts, hoola hoops, and apple pie, you are a horrible person.

    (I said you, not me.)
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I only donate to local shelters, too. I don't donate money - but pet food instead. That way every cent I spend goes to an animal in need.

    Do feel free to set up a charity for me, though. 'Cause I needs some stuff!
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Same here with local animal shelter. If you give money it goes into the county general fund...no thanks.

      So food, treats, litter, bedding and also donations to help injured or special needs pets that fosters are trying to place and pay vet bills for.

      Now I feel guilty for "wasting" my sig space - off to add a signature.
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      • Profile picture of the author ForumGuru
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        Originally Posted by HeySal View Post

        I only donate to local shelters, too. I don't donate money - but pet food instead. That way every cent I spend goes to an animal in need.
        Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

        Same here with local animal shelter. If you give money it goes into the county general fund...no thanks.

        So food, treats, litter, bedding and also donations to help injured or special needs pets that fosters are trying to place and pay vet bills for.
        Thanks to the both of you and the others that give to the shelters (especially the no-kills). Below is my $85 shelter kitty... This great cat provided my family and I with a priceless amount of fun, friendship, companionship and love over the past 15 years.



        RIP Leo Izbister

        Cheers

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          What a beautiful cat.
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          • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
            Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

            Another is one that was present in Nik0's post as it was first written. He drew attention to his signature for an example charity. Trouble is, the first link in his signature was to his own sales thread, so that's where a member's attention is first focused when they see that "see my sig" comment -- on the sales thread link text.
            Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

            I can only imagine how many "innocent" posts we would have about "my favorite charity - listed in my sig"....(right below my money making opportunities).
            This is where I think it'll be abused.

            It was why I asked Nik0 at the end of my post if he'd consider removing his make me money link for a week or even put it below the link to the charity he loves and considers others selfish for not following in his example.

            Sadly Nik0 hasn't been back yet or changed the signature.
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            • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
              Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post


              Sadly Nik0 hasn't been back yet or changed the signature.
              To be fair, he may not know the thread was moved to the OT from the main forum.
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

                To be fair, he may not know the thread was moved to the OT from the main forum.
                I see. Sorry Dennis I didn't realise.

                Sadly that makes me more suspicious of the motives though.

                Oh well, I'm sure it was all perfectly innocent. I'm just naturally suspicious of anyone who can put a link to something to get rich while linking to a charity for slum children in Thailand in the same sig, just doesn't sit right with me. Bit like having a link to a save bull fighting article and having an animal cruelty charity link underneath.

                Call me what you please but I've seen enough elaborate schemes in life to always have my guard up, albeit wrongly at times and so I'll give Nik0 the benefit of the doubt, only he knows if the thread increased traffic to his sales thread and only the charity knows if it's donations went up as a result of this thread.
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Call me what you please but I've seen enough elaborate schemes in life to always have my guard up, albeit wrongly at times and so I'll give Nik0 the benefit of the doubt, only he knows if the thread increased traffic to his sales thread and only the charity knows if it's donations went up as a result of this thread.
                  It doesn't matter what I post, each post leads to more traffic to the sales thread, it's just the nature of a signature link, I'm pretty sure the street kids site also received more traffic as that's just another signature link.

                  No idea if it resulted in more donations, it didn't lead to more sales as it's just business as usual (98% repeat/referal business).

                  You know when my signature link leads to more sales? When I write posts that are truly helpful and 100% related to my service. Then I see an instant increase in pm's / emails, which I can convert. SEO is not an easy thing to sell as it has a bad name on the forums so to get clients you need to proof you know your stuff.

                  A thread about charity doesn't accomplish that in anyway. Now there are probably people who don't agree with me but I know how many emails / pm's I receive and I know what and when I post things.
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Oh well, I'm sure it was all perfectly innocent. I'm just naturally suspicious of anyone who can put a link to something to get rich while linking to a charity for slum children in Thailand in the same sig, just doesn't sit right with me. Bit like having a link to a save bull fighting article and having an animal cruelty charity link underneath.
                  This makes no sense at all.

                  What is wrong with trying to be rich?

                  Just look at Bill Gates and what he did and is doing for the world.

                  Your comparison makes no sense either, maybe you should read what you wrote again.
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          Originally Posted by ForumGuru View Post

          Thanks to the both of you and the others that give to the shelters (especially the no-kills). Below is my $85 shelter kitty... This great cat provided my family and I with a priceless amount of fun, friendship, companionship and love over the past 15 years.



          RIP Leo Izbister

          Cheers

          -don
          Don - I'm sorry you lost your friend. I know how that feels. I had a rescue that I lost last November - he was a very special boy, and I'm having trouble getting over him. I moved a month after he died and now I can't have one where I live, so was going to donate walk time to some of the shelter dogs. Can't do it. It hurts too much to give them back. So..........I'll be moving somewhere around the end of the summer that doesn't object to people loving animals.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            I'm on holiday in Cambodia right now so I don't spend much time online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
    Richard, just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on his motives. Just offering that he might not be commenting in his thread because he didn't know it was moved.

    A healthy measure of skepticism is a virtue in my world.
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    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Richard, just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on his motives. Just offering that he might not be commenting in his thread because he didn't know it was moved.

      A healthy measure of skepticism is a virtue in my world.
      Yup and especially in the main discussion forum .
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      Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

      Richard, just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on his motives. Just offering that he might not be commenting in his thread because he didn't know it was moved.

      A healthy measure of skepticism is a virtue in my world.
      It doesn't matter if a post is moved or not, I click on my name and then on "Find all threads started by Nik0"

      The first responses I read in this thread made me "sigh" right away and thus the thread didn't get much of my attention. I wasn't even looking for a discussion. It was just a suggestion, nothing more. Up to people what to do with it.

      I was also a bit absent the last 72 hours, had a great party that lasted 24 hours, insane drunk, got into a semi-coma for another 20 hours, woke up broke, (got robbed in the room of my resort by the tuk tuk driver) so spend half a day moving from police station to police station and finding a translator to report it as we're talking about a Cambodian year salary here, yaiks, once I was done with the police and all was reported I went out again to have something else on my mind, watched the England - Uruguay match and went back to my hotel and just woke up.

      Lessons learned:

      - Don't walk around with local year salary
      - Don't drink 24 hour non stop that makes me forget most of what happened

      Good part of it, as most people are poor here, tuk tuk drivers included he'll probably have a blast with his new gained fortune. That's one hell of a unvoluntarily donation isn't it

      So today is working day to get everything scheduled and send out to clients and tomorrow it's time to party again. I just can't leave the $0,50 draft beers here. Best thing about Cambodia lol.

      Anyway, if you don't see a response for another 48-72 hours then use your imagination!
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      • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
        Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

        Richard, just to be clear, I wasn't commenting on his motives. Just offering that he might not be commenting in his thread because he didn't know it was moved.

        A healthy measure of skepticism is a virtue in my world.
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        It doesn't matter if a post is moved or not, I click on my name and then on "Find all threads started by Nik0"
        Given that the search has only been working sporadically since the site was moved to new servers, it's not a given you even could search for your posts. But, since you say you did, I'll retract the benefit of the doubt I had given you.

        The first responses I read in this thread made me "sigh" right away and thus the thread didn't get much of my attention. I wasn't even looking for a discussion. It was just a suggestion, nothing more. Up to people what to do with it.
        That's the odd thing about a discussion forum, people tend to discuss things. I know, I know . . . hard to believe, isn't it?

        I was also a bit absent the last 72 hours, had a great party that lasted 24 hours, insane drunk, got into a semi-coma for another 20 hours, woke up broke,
        I hope you learn to like yourself before you kill yourself.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          Given that the search has only been working sporadically since the site was moved to new servers, it's not a given you even could search for your posts. But, since you say you did, I'll retract the benefit of the doubt I had given you.
          In my experience it was only worse before the site got moved. Wait let's retreat that comment.

          Somehow certain threads always show up on top, while others never appear so I'm not exactly sure what's going on.


          Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

          That's the odd thing about a discussion forum, people tend to discuss things. I know, I know . . . hard to believe, isn't it?

          I hope you learn to like yourself before you kill yourself.
          Yeah yeah,

          Don't worry about me liking myself, I like my life and I have a good guardian angel that I thank everyday lol. If this was a story telling board, oh boy...
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          • Profile picture of the author Dennis Gaskill
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post


            Don't worry about me liking myself, I like my life and I have a good guardian angel that I thank everyday lol. If this was a story telling board, oh boy...
            I'll take your word for it, but it seems odd to me that you'd poison yourself to the point you did in that case. I like a good beer as well as the next guy, but I wouldn't drink to the point that I was "insane drunk" and "semi-comatose" and couldn't take care of myself.

            To each their own though. You're probably very young. I over-imbibed a few times when I was young, too. So did many of my friends. Some of them didn't live through it, that's the only reason I commented about it.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill View Post

              I'll take your word for it, but it seems odd to me that you'd poison yourself to the point you did in that case. I like a good beer as well as the next guy, but I wouldn't drink to the point that I was "insane drunk" and "semi-comatose" and couldn't take care of myself.

              To each their own though. You're probably very young. I over-imbibed a few times when I was young, too. So did many of my friends. Some of them didn't live through it, that's the only reason I commented about it.
              I sure was drunk but I think someone dropped something in my drink, strong sleeping pills perhaps as sleeping 20 hours in a row is not normal for me. I know myself and been in similar situations too often and I never sleep long, 4-8 hours depending whether I drink or not.

              I'm kind of an all or nothing guy, if I go out I do it good, and often I don't go out for weeks and sometimes even months and consequently I hardly drink (if at all) when I don't go out so my body has plenty of time to recover so I don't really see the dangour of it.

              I did have one friend who didn't live it through but that had to do with drugs that caused his liver to fail, he never drunk at all
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              • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                I'm kind of an all or nothing guy, if I go out I do it good, and often I don't go out for weeks and sometimes even months and consequently I hardly drink (if at all) when I don't go out so my body has plenty of time to recover so I don't really see the dangour of it.
                Are you quite young? I ask as my friend used to do just that, serious heavy sessions then time off to recover when he barely drank.

                After I think it was a month off one time he went on a session and the next day he was dead. He was in his thirties by that point, that's why I asked if you were young.

                Imagine if heroin addicts binged on it, had a month off and binged again. It often kills them too.

                It's your life though, don't let me lecture you. So long as you're happy, I'm happy.
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                  Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                  Are you quite young? I ask as my friend used to do just that, serious heavy sessions then time off to recover when he barely drank.

                  After I think it was a month off one time he went on a session and the next day he was dead. He was in his thirties by that point, that's why I asked if you were young.

                  Imagine if heroin addicts binged on it, had a month off and binged again. It often kills them too.

                  It's your life though, don't let me lecture you. So long as you're happy, I'm happy.
                  Fair is fair, that sounds quite disturbing, I'm 37.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Btw that signature link directs from the URL to this one: http://www.slum-kids.org/

            Which is a legit organization, people who pay for their own plane tickets and such when they go on holiday to help out. In addition they also have some Thai volunteers walking around who take the kids on a shopping tour to mostly buy basic need stuff like rice, cooking oil, clothes and now and then they organize a party for the kids like on their birthday.

            I personally know one of the main sponsors who runs a show in Pattaya and he's a good guy and somewhat famous in the UK and wouldn't connect his name to it if it was anything sketchy.

            I just shoot them a mail asking if they have a way of tracking donations down to the source so probably will hear from them soon and update it here, perhaps that might motivate people more.
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            • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              This makes no sense at all.

              What is wrong with trying to be rich?

              Just look at Bill Gates and what he did and is doing for the world.

              Your comparison makes no sense either, maybe you should read what you wrote again.
              No need to read it again nik0, I wrote it and it makes perfect sense.

              Nothing wrong with wanting to be rich either, I think that's where you got all confused, I didn't even say that did I? That's why it doesn't make sense to you, you read what you wanted to read rather than what it said. I'm sorry the comparison I made was hard for you.

              Don't worry though, you've only a link to the charity now, so me giving you the benefit of the doubt was granted, well done.

              Enjoy your binge drinking, it's always fun while it lasts.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                No need to read it again nik0, I wrote it and it makes perfect sense.

                Nothing wrong with wanting to be rich either, I think that's where you got all confused, I didn't even say that did I? That's why it doesn't make sense to you, you read what you wanted to read rather than what it said. I'm sorry the comparison I made was hard for you.

                Don't worry though, you've only a link to the charity now, so me giving you the benefit of the doubt was granted, well done.

                Enjoy your binge drinking, it's always fun while it lasts.
                There's nothing wrong with having a charity link next to selling a service.

                There are plenty of companies who use charities to drive sales.

                And is that really so bad? I don't think so.

                The charity benefits from it, so does the company, I see that as a win-win situation while others treat it as abusing a charity for your own sake. It's just how people like to interpretate it.

                Take a look at one of the posters above, who seems highly respected. what she's doing? Selling PLR articles about disaster and that kind of things to raise awareness. If she really wanted to raise awareness why not give it away for free. No one seems to argue about that, but when I come up with something then the whole forum is over me.

                You people really know how to measure with two sizes.

                Anyway I'm out here as a normal discussion isn't even possible with people like you. I'll update the thread when I receive a response from the charity foundation that I talked earlier about.
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                • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post


                  You people really know how to measure with two sizes.

                  Anyway I'm out here as a normal discussion isn't even possible with people like you. I'll update the thread when I receive a response from the charity foundation that I talked earlier about.
                  Sorry you're struggling with the conversation.

                  I'm finding it pretty straight forward.

                  In my last post I said this...

                  Don't worry though, you've only a link to the charity now, so me giving you the benefit of the doubt was granted, well done.
                  I'm saying fair play to you. Well done, good for you. What's so hard for you about that?

                  Anyway, enjoy your holiday.
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                    Sorry you're struggling with the conversation.

                    I'm finding it pretty straight forward.

                    In my last post I said this...



                    I'm saying fair play to you. Well done, good for you. What's so hard for you about that?

                    Anyway, enjoy your holiday.
                    Seems you're the one struggling here but whatever....
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                    • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      Seems you're the one struggling here but whatever....
                      Hahaaa! No. It's you.

                      I said earlier while you were busy being robbed blind, that you should move the charity above your money site or just display the charity link on it's own.

                      You've done that.

                      I said well done.

                      You can't see that because you are the one struggling.

                      You have done what I challenged you to do when I said this in post #8...

                      It's an excellent idea though. Would you remove the make money part of your signature for a week or two to focus on your charity? How about putting the charity above your making money link?
                      You did that and proved me wrong. I said well done, fair play.

                      Jeez, I can't make that any clearer.

                      Your brain must still be frazzled from the booze and date rape drug you got given. That's why you're struggling.
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                      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                        Originally Posted by Richard Van View Post

                        Hahaaa! Noooo. It's you.

                        I said earlier while you were busy being robbed blind, that you should move the charity above your money site or just display the charity link on it's own.

                        You've done that.

                        I said well done.

                        You can't see that because you are the one struggling.

                        You have done what I challenged you to do when I said this in post #8...



                        Jeez, I can't make that any clearer.

                        Your brain must still be frazzled from the booze and date rape drug you got given.
                        I wasn't talking about that at all, that's why I say you're struggling and not me.

                        Let me fresh up your mind:

                        Take a look at one of the posters above, who seems highly respected. what she's doing? Selling PLR articles about disaster and that kind of things to raise awareness. If she really wanted to raise awareness why not give it away for free. No one seems to argue about that, but when I come up with something then the whole forum is over me.

                        You people really know how to measure with two sizes.

                        Anyway I'm out here as a normal discussion isn't even possible with people like you. I'll update the thread when I receive a response from the charity foundation that I talked earlier about.

                        That's what you get when you only quote half of what I said.

                        And that post wasn't specifically tailored towards you, instead against the majority of the people posting here. That's why I started with "You people...."

                        Anyway, I really have work to do now. Will check back tomorrow probably
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                        • Profile picture of the author Richard Van
                          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                          I wasn't talking about that at all, that's why I say you're struggling and not me.

                          Let me fresh up your mind:

                          Take a look at one of the posters above, who seems highly respected. what she's doing? Selling PLR articles about disaster and that kind of things to raise awareness. If she really wanted to raise awareness why not give it away for free. No one seems to argue about that, but when I come up with something then the whole forum is over me.

                          You people really know how to measure with two sizes.

                          Anyway I'm out here as a normal discussion isn't even possible with people like you. I'll update the thread when I receive a response from the charity foundation that I talked earlier about.

                          That's what you get when you only quote half of what I said.
                          Ok, I'll take the well done and fair play back. I'm trying to say well done and you want to have an argument even though I'm congratulating you for proving me wrong with your motives. That means you're struggling, not me.

                          I read all of it but the bit I didn't quote was about the PLR. Perhaps she should give it out to.

                          My whole point in this thread was calling you out to see if you would do as I suggested, you did. I said well done.

                          Now however, as this boring piece of s*** of a conversation continues despite you saying you're out of here as normal discussion isn't possible with people like me or us, it's really getting boring so lets just stop it and do something useful.

                          By the way, this is why I thought it was tailored at me. You quoted me and said this. Note the bolded bit.

                          Anyway I'm out here as a normal discussion isn't even possible with people like you
                          Now, can we be friends?
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