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No drones for you

by joe golfer
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Regulators say package delivery drones are too dangerous. No kidding.

Amazon's drone dreams come crashing down as US regulators ban package delivery services | Mail Online
  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    Rather silly if true. Bezos said this drone delivery was years away if it could EVER be used so would be regulation for the sake of regulation...oh wait, we do that, don't we?

    Never mind.
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    One day, there will be an AI intelligent enough to make a military coup.
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  • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
    There is no need for new regulation. Present regulations make drone deliveries illegal. For a start, no commercial activity is approved at present. Also, all rc drones must be flown within the line of sight which would almost be impossible for drone deliveries.
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    • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
      Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

      Also, all rc drones must be flown within the line of sight which would almost be impossible for drone deliveries.
      I just want to give an update on this. Apparently, the FAA's statement released on 24th June was much more serious than just quashing Amazon's dreams. Effectively it could put an end to FPV (first personal view) activity in the US. That would effectively put an end to a big chunk of drone flying. So in effect, the OP's title "no drones for you" applies to everybody else as well.

      The issue was a re-interpretation of "flying within the line of sight". Previously, the FAA said it was OK to use FPV provided that there is a "spotter" nearby who could see the drone at all times. However, the most recent interpretation means the operator himself must be able to see the drone at all times. This means that FPV goggles cannot be used.

      Needless to say, the RC modelling community is in a big uproar about this. Although there are serious safety issues involved. This could put a big damper on drone photography.
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      • Profile picture of the author GforceSage
        Originally Posted by derekwong28 View Post

        I just want to give an update on this. Apparently, the FAA's statement released on 24th June was much more serious than just quashing Amazon's dreams. Effectively it could put an end to FPV (first personal view) activity in the US. That would effectively put an end to a big chunk of drone flying. So in effect, the OP's title "no drones for you" applies to everybody else as well.

        The issue was a re-interpretation of "flying within the line of sight". Previously, the FAA said it was OK to use FPV provided that there is a "spotter" nearby who could see the drone at all times. However, the most recent interpretation means the operator himself must be able to see the drone at all times. This means that FPV goggles cannot be used.

        Needless to say, the RC modelling community is in a big uproar about this. Although there are serious safety issues involved. This could put a big damper on drone photography.



        Your spotter now will be looking out for the cops.

        Legal or not, rogue photo companies have been using drones for real estate photography in recent times.

        Aside from collision issues or the future possibility of people throwing themselves in front of a delivery drone to get paid off for injury, there have already been amateur drone type flyers getting into trouble for being accused of peeping. A woman who was sunbathing in her backyard accused the operator of invading her privacy. These situations are somewhat new for law enforcement, so the operator was under investigation for peeping even though he claimed his craft was just cruising.
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        • Profile picture of the author derekwong28
          Originally Posted by GforceSage View Post

          Your spotter now will be looking out for the cops.

          Legal or not, rogue photo companies have been using drones for real estate photography in recent times.
          The FAA guideline against commercial users is very difficult to enforce. There is a case of a congressman using a drone for his wedding recently.

          FAA investigating use of drone to shoot New York congressman's wedding video - NY Daily News

          I think professional users are much more likely to fly safely than amateurs. It is possible to tweak the equipment to make it more safe. Some drones have automatic height restriction when it comes within a certain distance of an airport. This they know by GPS data.

          If the restriction of FPV holds, I think the only way it could be controlled is to stop the selling of FPV equipment.
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  • Profile picture of the author blindapeseo
    Regulations will change.
    Having autonomous drones and cars is too much of an aconomic boon to hinder it.
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  • Profile picture of the author HeySal
    I would think that unleashing drones into airspace would be dangerous anyhow, and expect a lot of accidents to result if the regulations do change to allow it. Amazon might just become a Guiness entry for injury liability lawsuits.
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