Psychedelics: Let's Hear Your Views & Experiences!

Ah yes. LSD. Used to be my drug of choice during the hippie "revolution". About that time Timothy Leary was making some shocking discoveries about the drug - the info was confiscated and he was put in jail. LSD was illegalized. Sound familiar? Anyway - some of that info got out before the feds started trying to clean it out of public channels.

The drug makes a link between the conscious and subconscious mind. While you are "tripping" your mind takes information and associates in in new ways - and files it with the new coding. While your "high" is advancing toward the "peak" your mind clears out massive amounts of information. At this point, subconscious material will surface and be experienced as if it were all really happening at the time - visual and aural hallucinations predominate, as well as unusual thoughts. Once the "peak" has been reached, super-learning is possible for a few hours, during which time the memory is enhanced. Later the person will find new applications for re-associated data.

In college I led two study groups and we used it as a study tool. My groups were well known, and everyone in them raised their GPA by a substantial amount. We produced honor grads.

Metaphysically, the drug was supposed to clean out and open the chakra's and the pineal gland. At one point it was said that the drug would cause birth defects, but I've never seen evidence for it. Everyone I know who took the drug but one person had healthy children.

People taking the drug were advised to have people there that were used to it so they didn't start responding to ideas such as "I can fly" - which claimed a few lives, but the drug itself never has as far as I've ever heard.

This is a drug I would not touch today - not because I am afraid of the effects. I've always found those to be positive other than eating a lot of vitamins etc out of your system that you need to replace. It's because I'm older and can't imagine being "high" for 8 to 12 hours anymore. Just too long for me to want to try to handle at my age.

Wasn't LSD "invented" by the CIA as part of the MKUltra program?

I think you are on to something. The government knows (but keeps it from us) that if we take psychedelic drugs, it will release our minds, unlock our Chakras, and release the power of our pineal glands.

We would become a nation of superhumans that would threaten our government control.

It's what sank Atlantis.

LSD is good for you. It's like a vitamin. Nothing bad can come from seeing something that isn't there. There is no downside. Even when driving.

And the people who post that they took it in their youth, show no signs of later effects.
I heartily recommend it.

Go team.

Ah yes, that sounds much more inviting than drug-induced psychosis, doesn't it?

LSD long term use and effects include:

• Tolerance, which causes a person to take more of the drug, which can lead to life-threatening overdoses
• Acid flashbacks, or hallucinogen persisting perception disorder, an uncontrolled event where the person experiences the effects of LSD use again without taking the drug
• Damage to vision
• Lack of motivation
• Mood swings
• Loss of ability to communicate
• Reduced ability to reason and think rationally
• Delusions
• Difficulty recognizing reality
• Psychosis
• Schizophrenia
• Depression
• Anxiety
• Panic attacks
• Suicidal thoughts and feelings

Source:LSD Long Term Use and Effects - LSD Addiction

In the very early 1960s I worked for Dr Humphrey Osmond, the man who invented the word "psychedelic." He gave LSD to Aldous Huxley (which Huxley acknowledged in The Doors of Perception). I was supposed to meet Huxley and be given LSD with him, but Huxley died on Nov 22, 1963. Osmond gave LSD to many alcoholics and hospitalized schizophrenics (they were hospitalized then). Those experiments were failures. They led neither to cure nor improvements. Osmond was a pleasant fellow, in my experience.

The DEA is a viable source? LMAO. Okay. Sure. Aren't they the ones that called pot deadly - even though not one person has ever died from it in the history of its use - I've not even seen an indirect death due to something like allergic reaction. But the DEA wanted YOU to think it's deadly. It's much more profitable for them if you are scared shytless of it.

I have never seen one study ever that shows any of the symptoms you have listed, Aaron. Many of the "trippers" I knew well were GMI students (bizarre high IQs), U of M students, etc. All very high IQs and very motivated people.

In my own experience - my IQ went up 20 points during my own LSD use. Coincidence? Everyone in my study groups raised their GPA by quite some margin. Another "coincidence". Every one of them graduated with high honors. Note - not everyone was allowed into the groups because some just didn't seem to be stable enough for us to trust being able to handle it. Had Leary's final works been available, we might have been able to figure out how to fix that. It was not. We had to run with what we knew.

The issue of tolerance? That's because it burns vitamins and minerals out of your system (that's what it runs on). If you keep replenishing the elements that it burns, you don't get the "tolerance" effect. Also true of seeming "tolerance" is that once you get used to the effects, you are able to control them and function more normally during the high. You're still high - you just are more able to think around the chemical effects.

Also true - people that seem to be addicted do a lot of other drugs as well. It's not the LSD that's addictive or causes a lot of the reactions you have listed. It's the other pure crap they take along with it. This is the same hype that is spewed about pot causing a bad memory. The only time that pot effects the memory is during the high, and, again, people that get used to the high aren't as effected as people that only get high once in awhile. Also - if they are smoking a strain known to be a relaxant, well, yeah, that's gonna slow em down a little - that's what that particular strain is supposed to freaking do. :rolleyes:

Also true - some people can't tolerate the chemical and shouldn't play with it. Period. If someone has mental problems from the get, it's not going to do them any good -- that I know of anyhow. Someone more experienced in authoritative research on the chemical may be able to cite me wrong on that one.

For those who have never taken the chemical, there's really not much anyone can do to relate what goes on when you do it. It's a whole different perception and brain function going on from usual. Parts of your subconscious are actually brought into conscious and play at the same time the conscious reality is. I've only met a few people that ever had the problem of not knowing what was hallucination and what was real while stoned. Those are people that shouldn't have been taking chemicals of any kind in the first place, let alone hallucinogenics. Then again, sometimes those kind of experiences were caused by unethical dealers who would lace the chemical with poisons (such as strychnine) to mask dilution of the actual chemical - to make more money.

What's with the "thanks" buttons? Thom - I thanked you twice and it's not showing. Not sure what's up with that - but anyhow, you made some really good points.

"You can't alter what you don't have."

LMAO! Ho, that's one for the quote thread.

My mom wanted to try pot before she died. I didn't think it was a good idea because the laughing gas at the dentists made her feel anguished and violent. Now I wish she had. Might have kept her heart from exploding. What the doctors were doing to her sure didn't.

I had one bad experience "tripping". I was kinda sick and shouldn't have been messing with it. Like you said, though - it didn't make me think that reality was altered in any way. Just really didn't feel good and was having a hard time going to sleep to wear it off.

I took an IQ test while in the prime hour just before the peak and only tested at 115. LOL. The next day I took another and was back to normal. So yeah, it affects you while you are high - but then you've seen me before and after a few hits on a doob, too. Thank god it's not permanent, huh? I'm sure there are people here that think I spend my life tokin'. They'd be surprised how infrequently I do, and how strongly it effects me, I think. Being one of the healthier people I know in my age bracket, though, I absolutely can't take any seriousness in some of the ideas people have been indoctrinated to believe about the stuff.

Having experience in experimenting, though, I can say with certainty that there are substances out there that people shouldn't be putting in their bodies whether they are legally prescribed to them or not. The medical industrial complex really did a lot of damage to me. There are extremely few drugs out - legal or not - that I will have anything to do with, and a few so dangerous and destructive, I won't have anything to do with people who are taking them.

I have never touched the stuff, so cannot share any personal experience.

However... I remember reading years ago what Carl Sagan thought about them. I believe it was in his book Broca's Brain, but I could be wrong about that.

He recounted the common experience that users report extraordinary sensory expansion.

His hypothesis (and that is all it was), was that hallucinogenics actually cause a mental contraction, and that the experiences reported are a result of senses reinterpreting your surroundings with their new, lower capacity.

I prefer to keep both feet grounded in reality.

My roomie's daugher is in rehab for it right now. She got popped driving high and her license got revoked - then she got pregnant, and they found meth in her blood while pregnant so child services were called in. She didn't stop doing it, so CS took her baby when it was born. It's in a foster home and she was allowed visits. Then she got popped for driving without a license and wound up in court. The court put her in rehab for, I think 30 days. While she was in rehab she had a court date to make so was supposed to come over here, a friend would pick her up, take her to court, then she'd spend the night and get a ride back to rehab.

Her car had been brought over here and parked for the time she's in rehab. So I wake up and the car I parked behind is not there. She and "friend" had gotten in my vehicle, pushed it out of the way - drove hers out, then pushed mine back in the drive. She proceeded, after all these issues she's having, to drive her car in a small town where the cops now know her. She came back at about 1:30 AM and was high as a kite.

Mommy tried to convince me that the story they moved a lot of huge rocks out of the way to back out of the drive - and I had 2 words for her "tire tracks".

I railed the girl and told her if I saw her in my car without my permission - for ANY reason, she was toast, I'd have her drug tested right then and there. She tried to lie out of it, then finally called me a bitch. I just told her that she better start realizing exactly how much of a bitch I can be - and please give the lighter and mascara that she took with her back to me.

Anyhow - mommy thinks rehab is doing wonders for her. As far as I can tell (and I did do crisis counseling at one time although I'm not a shrink, so could be wrong), that little chick is history. If she's risking what she is now, after 3 weeks of rehab, I don't think she's rehabable at all.

They're illegal for a reason....... side affects can cause an actual awakening, and you'll realize who and what is really in control

My above-mentioned brother managed to kick a decade+ long heroin addiction (through rehab) in the 1990's. He transitioned to methadone, then kicked that after a couple of decades. He began to take care of himself, eat healthy, and repair all of the relationships left in his wake over the decades of drug abuse. He was in the best place of his life right before the cancer struck.

I never cease to be amazed at his accomplishment, and devastated by the ironies of his life.

I haven't really got any real views on psychedelics. My experiences tripping though have been what I would describe as weird, funny, amazing, but most of all vivid.

I have never tried psychedelics and until this thread, I had no idea that they were actually beneficial to some.

Thank you all for sharing your experiences! <-- in case you can't see it, there is actually a smiley there!

~ Theresa