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lanfear63

10 years ago

Jim Henson would tun in his grave if he knew how his puppets were being treated!

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positivenegative 10 years ago

Originally Posted by lanfear63

Jim Henson would tun in his grave if he knew how his puppets were being treated!

That's not nice, referring to Mr Spielberg as a puppet.
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10 years ago

Most people didn't recognize that it's Steven Spielberg; the director of Jurassic Park. The picture was actually taken on the set of Jurassic Park. Also, how can someone kill a Triceratops in this era? They extinct 60+ million years ago, it's just a mechanical prop.

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taskemann 10 years ago

Originally Posted by creiben31

They extinct 60+ million years ago

66 million years ago to be exact.
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Floyd Fisher

10 years ago

Originally Posted by creiben31

Most people didn't recognize that it's Steven Spielberg; the director of Jurassic Park. The picture was actually taken on the set of Jurassic Park. Also, how can someone kill a Triceratops in this era? They extinct 60+ million years ago, it's just a mechanical prop.

Some people will believe anything.

Here's someone getting signatures for a petition to ban dihydrogen monoxide (water):

Penn And Teller Get Hippies To Sign Water Banning...

I can't believe after all these years, people still fall for that one....must be the fancy name.

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tagiscom

10 years ago

Originally Posted by whateverpedia

No-one cares how many triceratops' or sharks Speilberg wipes out. We're better off without them.

Next he can turn his attention to fluffy bunnies who are reaching plague proportions in some areas.

Damn things coming to our planet and taking our jobs.

Bustards!

PLAGUE PROPORTIONS, (while frantically patting my white fluffy bunny)!!!

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sbucciarel

Banned 10 years ago

The bastid! And here he is when he was younger. Ruthless, I tell you. Ruthless

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10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The bastid! And here he is when he was younger. Ruthless, I tell you. Ruthless

Well, that one's from the set of the movie "Jaws".

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positivenegative

10 years ago

Originally Posted by creiben31

Well, that one's from the set of the movie "Jaws".

No shit. And here's me thinking he's squashing E.T. on the head.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by positivenegative

No shit. And here's me thinking he's squashing E.T. on the head.

I probably wouldn't mock any of the new mods, but that's just me.

By the way, one of the reasons the spam has been cut down is because creiben31 has been doing a nice job of getting rid of it.

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Nice Sabino

10 years ago

Originally Posted by sbucciarel

The bastid! And here he is when he was younger. Ruthless, I tell you. Ruthless

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I probably wouldn't mock any of the new mods, but that's just me.

By the way, one of the reasons the spam has been cut down is because creiben31 has been doing a nice job of getting rid of it.

It's ok with me. No harm. Thanks, Dennis.

Anyway, obviously it's not ET. Maybe he thought I'm literally describing the picture. Just want to shed light to "some" internet users who actually believes that he killed that shark.

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tagiscom 10 years ago

Yep, these are the sorts of people that think, sitcoms are real!

But at least they spared the fluffy bunnies!
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positivenegative

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

I probably wouldn't mock any of the new mods, but that's just me.

Mock?? It was a touch of mild satire. SATIRE, Dennis, in case you didn't hear.

BTW, I never noticed it was a Mod that I responded to. It makes no difference though. It was only a tongue-in-cheek comment said in the OTF, not a slating of the President in public.

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It's ok with me. No harm.

Cheers.

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Dennis Gaskill

10 years ago

Originally Posted by positivenegative

Mock?? It was a touch of mild satire. SATIRE, Dennis, in case you didn't hear.

If you say so. But since you shouted "satire" at me to make sure I heard you...

Satire:
The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.
Synonyms: mockery, ridicule, derision, scorn, caricature;

Mock:
Tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner.
Synonyms: ridicule, jeer at, sneer at, deride, scorn, make fun of, laugh at, scoff at, tease, taunt

...I must confess, I'm not real clear on the difference.

Anyway, the person you were satirizing didn't seem to take offense, so it's all good. Like I said though, I wouldn't do it, but that's just me.

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Dennis,

...I must confess, I'm not real clear on the difference.

Mockery is usually personal, and the intended recipient of the message is normally the subject of the ridicule. It's purely insulting, and rarely serves a constructive purpose. It can occasionally be clever, but is always intended to be hurtful.

Satire is normally more intelligent, and the intended recipient is the group affected by the object of the communication, rather than the object itself. Satire is often used to raise awareness of or action on an issue. It's essentially a social and/or entertainment tool. (Usually both.)

Or, put in a different way, one is abuse and the other an art form.

Swift's "A Modest Proposal" is an excellent early example of the latter.

Paul

PS: I'd classify the comment that sparked this bit of discussion as sarcasm. A cousin to both.

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Dennis,Mockery is usually personal, and the intended recipient of the message is normally the subject of the ridicule. It's purely insulting, and rarely serves a constructive purpose. It can occasionally be clever, but is always intended to be hurtful.

Satire is normally more intelligent, and the intended recipient is the group affected by the object of the communication, rather than the object itself. Satire is often used to raise awareness of or action on an issue. It's essentially a social and/or entertainment tool. (Usually both.)

Or, put in a different way, one is abuse and the other an art form.

Swift's "A Modest Proposal" is an excellent early example of the latter.

Paul

PS: I'd classify the comment that sparked this bit of discussion as sarcasm. A cousin to both.

Paul; You just beat me to it. I was going to just say exactly the same thing. Exactly.

Honest....ish.

And who hasn't read Swift's A Modest Proposal? Pfft! Everyone, that's all!

It's my favorite Juvenalian satirical essay. And that's saying a lot!

I am now going back to playing my Grand Piano...that I keep in my living room...I mean Foyer. Ahhhh, there's my martini.......

(I just want people to think I'm smart. )

Oh, Paul..Sarcasm is the Wet Nurse of Satire, not the cousin. That's why they don't share the same last name.

I am Doctor Mid-Nite. (Paul, you should know who that is without looking it up)

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MikeAmbrosio 10 years ago

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The bastid! And here he is when he was younger. Ruthless, I tell you. Ruthless

Lots and lots of stupid people running around the internet...
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seasoned

10 years ago

It IS interesting! I have all this knowledge that is basically flagged as common, obscure, EVERYONE knows that, etc.... It has served me well for DECADES! I saw this, and it was like my brain said TRICERATOPS, DINOSAUR, LONG EXTINCT, *******EVERYONE KNOWS IT*****! And then I pipe in and say "YEAH, you said that about adult 'AMERICANS' knowing there are 50 states, etc...., so DON'T BE TOO SURE!"!

I've been toying with some satire, but thought I should tone it down, lest people think I actually believe it. It is ABSURD, but I feel some MIGHT actually believe it. HEY, enjoy a survey about a recent holiday:

Americans Don't Know WHY We Celebrate the 4th of...

I would hope they are fooling with him, but I doubt it. HEY, ONE person claims to be from TWO places that should know the answers.
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joseph7384

10 years ago

Originally Posted by seasoned

It IS interesting! I have all this knowledge that is basically flagged as common, obscure, EVERYONE knows that, etc.... It has served me well for DECADES! I saw this, and it was like my brain said TRICERATOPS, DINOSAUR, LONG EXTINCT, *******EVERYONE KNOWS IT*****! And then I pipe in and say "YEAH, you said that about adult 'AMERICANS' knowing there are 50 states, etc...., so DON'T BE TOO SURE!"!

I've been toying with some satire, but thought I should tone it down, lest people think I actually believe it. It is ABSURD, but I feel some MIGHT actually believe it. HEY, enjoy a survey about a recent holiday:

I would hope they are fooling with him, but I doubt it. HEY, ONE person claims to be from TWO places that should know the answers.
'
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It is really amazing how many uneducated Americans there are, they most have been day dreaming through out their schooling.

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10 years ago

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bizgrower

10 years ago

I think this makes Spielberg the world's most dangerous man.

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Dennis Gaskill 10 years ago

Originally Posted by bizgrower

I think this makes Spielberg the world's most dangerous man.

You could be right. At the very least it makes him the world's best hunter.
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Kurt

10 years ago

As long as he eats it, I don't have a problem with it. However, if he's just going to stuff it and hang its head on his wall, then I have a BIG problem.

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bizgrower 10 years ago

Originally Posted by Kurt

As long as he eats it, I don't have a problem with it. However, if he's just going to stuff it and hang its head on his wall, then I have a BIG problem.

If that were the case, PETPA would get involved.
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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Claude,

I am Doctor Mid-Nite. (Paul, you should know who that is without looking it up)

Nope. Had to look it up, and then it's only a vague "Oh yeah. I think I saw that character once" sort of thing. The JSA was never one of my favorites, outside of the Watchmen and some later appearances of Alan Scott.

Had to look up Juvenalian, too. Given that I'd never even heard of Juvenal, much less read any of his work, that's probably not a word I'll find a lot of use for.

Still, learned something new, which is always good.

Paul

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Claude,Nope. Had to look it up, and then it's only a vague "Oh yeah. I think I saw that character once" sort of thing. The JSA was never one of my favorites, outside of the Watchmen and some later appearances of Alan Scott.

Had to look up Juvenalian, too. Given that I'd never even heard of Juvenal, much less read any of his work, that's probably not a word I'll find a lot of use for.

Still, learned something new, which is always good.

Paul

Paul; Alan Scott (The original Green Lantern) and Doctor Mid-Nite were part of the Justice Society, in the late 1930's and 1940's. The Watchmen is a completely different series from the 1980's. I have a soft spot for early "Mystery Men" and Proto-Superheroes. Many of the first Superheroes simply wore trench coats, a hat, and a mask.

When I said "And who hasn't read Swift's A Modest Proposal? Pfft! Everyone, that's all!

It's my favorite Juvenalian satirical essay. And that's saying a lot!"....

I had no idea who Swift was, or A Modest Proposal. I looked it up, and saw the word Juvenalian. No idea what it means. I just thought the whole idea of pretending like I was trying to look sophisticated, was funny.

By the way, do you know why Superheroes have capes? When drawing comic books scenes, a cape can tell the reader what direction the hero is going, and how fast. It also makes the character much easier to draw. The artwork back then was mostly terrible. Capes also let the reader know who the hero was. Masks are easier to draw than faces. And they also let the reader know who the hero was.

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bizgrower

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Claude Whitacre

Paul; Alan Scott (The original Green Lantern) and Doctor Mid-Nite were part of the Justice Society, in the late 1930's and 1940's. The Watchmen is a completely different series from the 1980's. I have a soft spot for early "Mystery Men" and Proto-Superheroes. Many of the first Superheroes simply wore trench coats, a hat, and a mask.

When I said "And who hasn't read Swift's A Modest Proposal? Pfft! Everyone, that's all!

It's my favorite Juvenalian satirical essay. And that's saying a lot!"....

I had no idea who Swift was, or A Modest Proposal. I looked it up, and saw the word Juvenalian. No idea what it means. I just thought the whole idea of pretending like I was trying to look sophisticated, was funny.

By the way, do you know why Superheroes have capes? When drawing comic books scenes, a cape can tell the reader what direction the hero is going, and how fast. It also makes the character much easier to draw. The artwork back then was mostly terrible. Capes also let the reader know who the hero was. Masks are easier to draw than faces. And they also let the reader know who the hero was.

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After I looked up everything you guys were talking about, I realized that you were not talking
about my proposal to Taylor Swift.:<)

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whateverpedia

10 years ago

No-one cares how many triceratops' or sharks Speilberg wipes out. We're better off without them.

Next he can turn his attention to fluffy bunnies who are reaching plague proportions in some areas.

Damn things coming to our planet and taking our jobs.

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Bustards!

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Paul Myers

10 years ago

Claude,

Yep. Knew who Alan Scott was. I thought some of the Watchmen were part of the JSA, but I wouldn't swear to it. (Just looked it up. Nope. They weren't.) Golden Age isn't my forte, obviously.

I thought "A Modest Proposal" was as universally required reading for people our age as "Lord of the Flies" or "1984."

I knew about the art. Some of it stayed that style even after comics started to attract good draftsmen. Will Eisner's "The Spirit" kept the hat and overcoat, even while adding quality to the artwork. Jack Kirby shook things up in a big way. Then you got guys like Adams and Giordano, and things started getting fun These days, it's just crazy.

As dark as some of it is, it's hard to call them "comics" any more. I'm not sure which I liked better.

Paul

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Claude Whitacre

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Claude,

Yep. Knew who Alan Scott was. I thought some of the Watchmen were part of the JSA, but I wouldn't swear to it. (Just looked it up. Nope. They weren't.) Golden Age isn't my forte, obviously.

I thought "A Modest Proposal" was as universally required reading for people our age as "Lord of the Flies" or "1984."

I knew about the art. Some of it stayed that style even after comics started to attract good draftsmen. Will Eisner's "The Spirit" kept the hat and overcoat, even while adding quality to the artwork. Jack Kirby shook things up in a big way. Then you got guys like Adams and Giordano, and things started getting fun These days, it's just crazy.

As dark as some of it is, it's hard to call them "comics" any more. I'm not sure which I liked better.

Paul

Paul; I know what you mean. The very early comics were written for 7-10 year olds. I bought a DVD of the first 100 Legion Of Superheros comics, and they were done in the 60's mostly. Many of the adventures are unreadable to me, because they are so simplistic.

But some of the new stuff is borderline soft porn. The art is usually super impressive though. They seem to be written for 20 year old's now.

I remember the quality improvement of "The Spirit". And Neal Adams was something of a god to me.
To be honest, I haven't read many comics in the last 15 years or so. A friend might mention a series, and I'll buy the graphic novel of it.

My favorite heroes were the ones with no powers. It was easier to imagine being the hero. And their adventures were more interesting to me.

The exception was Superman. The stories in the 1960's and early 70's with Kurt Swan as the artist...were a major part of my childhood.

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Paul Myers 10 years ago

Claude,

Jim Aparo was another one who changed the way superhero comics were handled. He was one of my favorite Batman artists. The Adams/Giordano team was every bit as good. Adams' pencils had an effect similar to Jim Lee's work. They changed everything.

The current stuff has to be written for an older crowd. Simple math.

In 1976, a Detective Comics regular weekly issue was 25 cents. The minimum wage was $2.30. 9 comics for an hour's work. The current cost of a regular weekly issue of Detective Comics is $2.99. Your average 14-year old doesn't make $27 an hour.

Or, on a fair comparison, the cost of a single issue is roughly 3 times as much in terms of hourly wage as it was back then. Not to mention the way they cross storylines over multiple titles, making it harder to keep up if you're not willing to track additional subscriptions.

The lack of powers was one of the reasons I always preferred the Batman. But then, I grew up during an era when the detective part was more critical than the "Dark Knight" aspect.

As for the rest... Superman was an undocumented alien!

Paul
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10 years ago

I wish George Lucas killed Jar Jar Binks... That would do us a lotta favor.

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